Author Topic: The NASA model building thread (Read 1083626 times)

publiusr · « **Reply #220 on:** 08/13/2006 09:33 pm »

Squadron.com has the Bison based VM-T Atlant for order--complete with 'cargo pod' which looks suspiciously like the Energiya core block (minus engines) looking very much like a white ET (External Tank) which is what it is most likely. The reason AN-225 was so large was to carry both Buran and a full engine-equipped Energiya core block IIRC.

So the model makers have made something as a 'cargo pod' that they probably wouldn't have offered as a 'space' kit.

So you have an Energiya Core block actually offered that wouldn't be available otherwise...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=IBAX72015

Or maybe the Energiya Tooling was used to make a cargo-pod--though that is unlikely since any object to be moved would have to be dense and compact--with only a small shell. The only thing to be moved this way would therefore have to be the Energiya ET totally stripped. That's my guess anyway.

zerm · « **Reply #221 on:** 08/14/2006 12:39 am »

Just to interject and toot my own horn... Heeeeer's Stumpy!

The question is- will this be the first Stumpy to fly, or will it be the only Stumpy to fly?

kraisee · « **Reply #222 on:** 08/14/2006 04:32 am »

That looks suspiciously like a rocket motor tube at the bottom of the core there... What size motor?

I honestly hope we don't go with Stumpy. I sincerely hope we don't spend lots of money designing and building something which drags down from STS's curernt capabilities today, instead of using the same monies to increase it's capabilities instead.

But I'd still like to see your model actually fly!

Ross.

kraisee · « **Reply #223 on:** 08/14/2006 04:35 am »

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erauskydiver - 13/8/2006 4:06 PM

LaunchComplex models or RealSpace models should consider producing a 1:72 scale external tank and booster kit. There are plenty of orbiters of that scale on the market already. I'd bet that just selling the tank and boosters would be profitable. Also, has anybody tried to build them from scratch?

Well I can't speak for Glenn Johnson at RealSpace, but I'm unlikely to.

I will build whatever new launchers NASA finally settles on though. Whenever they finally do settle... [mumble, grumble...]

Ross.

Gene DiGennaro · « **Reply #224 on:** 08/14/2006 01:21 pm »

Ross said

"For my models which aren't designed to separate, I've simply drilled holes which align, and use a piece of Brass Rod to put them together - works like a charm, and is very cheap and simple.

Dunno if anyone here recalls a company called Rho-Models, run by a very nice guy named Julius de Roo, well he did a 1:144 scale Energiya/Buran model in resin. It was designed to be glued entirely together, but using this technique, mine comes apart and goes neatly back together again any time I like

Ross."

I like the brass rod idea and considered it myself, but I like the positive "click" that the headphone jacks have. I also like the magnet idea too.

Gene

Mark Dave · « **Reply #225 on:** 08/14/2006 04:01 pm »

An ET/SRB set for the 1/72 scale orbiters? That would be nice. The problem is only if there is enough demand for such a kit will it be made. That's probably also why Monogram didn't keep their's on sale for that long, not too many were asked for.

Paul Adams · « **Reply #226 on:** 08/14/2006 04:26 pm »

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MarkD - 14/8/2006 10:48 AM

An ET/SRB set for the 1/72 scale orbiters? That would be nice. The problem is only if there is enough demand for such a kit will it be made. That's probably also why Monogram didn't keep their's on sale for that long, not too many were asked for.

Perhaps it would be possible to get enough pre-orders to entice Glen to produce this kit?

Paul

Rocket Guy · « **Reply #227 on:** 08/14/2006 04:29 pm »

I assume you mean a better 1/72 ET/SRB kit? They made a 1/72 stack for many years and it can still be found on ebay almost every week.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #228 on:** 08/14/2006 05:27 pm »

That's also why I said it'd be a good idea. They are so rare now no stores carry them anymore. And Ebay pricing is waay too much sometimes, depending on the bids the price can jump to even more than it was last time.

Pre order? It's not even on the list for future projects for RSM. Why not ask him? I did once when the kit was still out if he could make an intertank resin pice to replace the way the kit has it on the ET. Nope, as the kit was out and scratchbuilding it would do just as well. I did ask Glenn if he'd make the OBSS for his 1/72 Payload bay kit, and I'm still awaiting an answer. I asked as I scratchbuilt one, but it looks like crap.

Ben will your site have the rollout photos of STS-115? Close up images from rollover you got look awesome.

zerm · « **Reply #229 on:** 08/14/2006 08:58 pm »

Stumpy flies at the Maryland Delaware Rocketry Assn. launch August 26/27. See www.mdrocketry.org for time and location. Photos will be posted here.

kraisee · « **Reply #230 on:** 08/15/2006 01:13 am »

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zerm - 14/8/2006 4:45 PM

Stumpy flies at the Maryland Delaware Rocketry Assn. launch August 26/27. See www.mdrocketry.org for time and location. Photos will be posted here.

Sweet!

Looking forward to seeing them zerm.

BTW: Paul - I'm fairly sure if you can bring a bunch of orders to Glenn for a 1:72 tank and SRB's, he'd make them for you. Might take him some time, I'm sure he'll look at building just about anything which will sell reasonably well.

Ross.

J Britt RSA · « **Reply #231 on:** 08/15/2006 01:20 am »

Zerm,

Two questions - will Dr. Zooch be making rocket kits for Stumpy and the CaLV? If so, could you go into some specifications?

Mark Dave · « **Reply #232 on:** 08/15/2006 02:40 pm »

Yep, hopefully Glenn might consider that. The alternative is Ebay or scratchbuilding them. The alternatives are up to the builder if they wish to spend the money and or time on that, especially when it's scratchbuilt- which would cost alot more than buying the kit off Ebay.

Paul Adams · « **Reply #233 on:** 08/15/2006 04:41 pm »

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J Britt RSA - 14/8/2006 8:07 PM

Zerm,

Two questions - will Dr. Zooch be making rocket kits for Stumpy and the CaLV? If so, could you go into some specifications?

Where to drum up orders? Here and on the space modelers Yahoo group?

Paul

Rocket Guy · « **Reply #234 on:** 08/15/2006 05:21 pm »

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That's also why I said it'd be a good idea. They are so rare now no stores carry them anymore. And Ebay pricing is waay too much sometimes, depending on the bids the price can jump to even more than it was last time.

They can be had for about $50-75 from what I've seen, so it's not that bad for a nice kit that is no longer produced.

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Ben will your site have the rollout photos of STS-115? Close up images from rollover you got look awesome.

I was not at rollout this time, unfortunately. If you're going to take a vacation in that business you have to be preparred to miss some things :-)

Mark Dave · « **Reply #235 on:** 08/15/2006 07:53 pm »

Oh.

Yeah, I only have one photo of a shuttle stack, and it's Columbia on 39A. Wait! The two photos of Columbia on 39A and Discovery launching. I was there about that time. Discovery was due to land the week I was there and Columbia was still on the pad.

J Britt RSA · « **Reply #236 on:** 08/15/2006 08:04 pm »

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Paul Adams - 15/8/2006 11:28 AM

Where to drum up orders? Here and on the space modelers Yahoo group?

Paul

I've got Dr. Zootch's rocket website bookmarked allready - he's got a model rocket version of the Ares I and he's supposed to be releasing a Ares V kit as well. Hopefully, he'll put out a kit based on Stumpy, because Estes or Quest never will.

As aside, how many model builders here also fly model rockets?

Paul Adams · « **Reply #237 on:** 08/15/2006 09:30 pm »

I have done, but my interests were leading to me the big expensive stuff and my checkbook could not follow!

We are fortunate to have some very suitable dry lake beds here in Southern Nevada, but along with the cash issue, I do not have enough time available right now.

Very enjoyable hobby I have to say!

Paul

Mark Dave · « **Reply #238 on:** 08/17/2006 10:55 pm »

Agreed. Some spend alot of money on hobbies like this.

zerm · « **Reply #239 on:** 08/20/2006 06:57 pm »

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J Britt RSA - 15/8/2006 2:51 PM

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Paul Adams - 15/8/2006 11:28 AM

Where to drum up orders? Here and on the space modelers Yahoo group?

Paul

I've got Dr. Zootch's rocket website bookmarked allready - he's got a model rocket version of the Ares I and he's supposed to be releasing a Ares V kit as well. Hopefully, he'll put out a kit based on Stumpy, because Estes or Quest never will.

As aside, how many model builders here also fly model rockets?

Making the kits that no one else will make is how I make my money! Of course you actually have to "build" my kits.

I'm a member of the space modler's forum- but they are not very flying rocket friendly- if you are not there to to talk plastic, or gripe about IPMS or chat about Terry Garr they they are hair triggered to call you as being Off-topic and bam- yer' gone. A few months ago some of us had a good discussion about fins going and Mr. S. called it off topic and shut it off. I figured that was about enough for me. The better place to post is rocketryforum.com. But then again... why leave Nasaspaceflight for even a minute? ... you can miss so much.