India building a RLV!

#20 by 02hurnella on 04 Apr, 2007 15:16
I thought the Usa wanted to go it alone on the vision? Europe offered to collaborate didn't they and Nasa said no, but if you get to the moon seperatly we can collaborate? Besides Russia doesn't want to collaborate with china... isn't that not the point of CSTS
#21 by josh_simonson on 06 Apr, 2007 18:25
NASA wants to have the full logistical capability in-house, other than that collaboration where Russia, ESA, ISRO, ect build AND pay for their contribution will be welcome.
#22 by 02hurnella on 14 Apr, 2007 18:11
Is that implying that Russia+ESA didnt pay for thier contributions to the ISS? Russia quite clearly did, they kept it running, built the core launched half of it etc. The ESA less so but they did build node 2, node 3, colombus etc.

The only way people will walk on mars before 2040 is if there is a race! I say 2/3 faviroutes Nasa-1/9 euro-russian-1/9 china-1/9-India 1/9
#23 by Danderman on 14 Apr, 2007 18:22
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Bruce H - 26/2/2006 8:29 AM http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=278065&ssid=27&sid=ENV
This project is so early in its development that I suspect that 20 years from now, whatever emerges may be very different from this description. In other words, don't hold your breath.
#24 by Bob_The_Builder on 26 Apr, 2007 04:36
As per this,

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Vital gear for rocket launches handed over to ISRO http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/holnus/002200704201860.htm

The RH-560M Motorcase, a vital piece of equipment that can help cut the amount of fuel needed to launch rockets, was handed over to the Indian space agency here today.

The Motorcase was handed over to B N Suresh, Director of the Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC) of the Indian Space Research Organisation, by city-based Ramakrishna Engineering Company.

Suresh later told a press conference that VSSC is trying to configure low-cost effective technology for air breathing propulsion.

"The RH-560M enhances the capability of the launch. It can save almost the whole amount of fuel...as of now only the US has it. We will be the second country to go in for it," he said.

ISRO plans to test the air breathing propulsion technology by January or February next year, he said.

The April 23 commercial launch of the Italian satellite Agile from Sriharikota by ISRO, the first such launch from India, would be a "significant" event, Suresh said.

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Indigenous avionics to be installed soon in PSLV/GSLV
Venkatachari Jagannathan

Chennai: The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) designed new rocket navigation systems have performed flawlessly. Installed on board of the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle C8 (PSLV-C8) to test its functionality and efficiency on an actual flight, the performance of avionics was excellent say ISRO scientists.

Says director P S Veeraraghavan, ISRO Inertial Systems Unit, "The test results are identical to our expectations and that of the existing flight navigation systems."

"ISRO's two launch vehicles PSLV and Geosynchronous Launch Vehicle (GSLV) will soon be fitted with indigenously designed navigation systems", adds director, Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre, ISRO, Dr.B N Suresh.

Named as Vikram the microprocessor that powered the navigation computers was designed by ISRO. Presently ISRO uses Motorola's 68,000 processor.

With the perpetual threat of technological transfer ban by the western countries hanging over ISRO, Veeraraghavan says designing our own microprocessor is of strategic interest. "The Vikram processor is ten times powerful than the existing one."

ISRO started the work on developing the processor couple of years ago. The systems were tested on the ground using flight simulation.

Meanwhile ISRO is planning to test its air-breathing engine first on its sounding rockets. According to Dr. Suresh, the space organisation has plans to do that in September this year.

Air breathing rocket systems are the ones which use the atmospheric oxygen from their surroundings and burn it with the stored on- board fuel for producing the forward thrust in contrast to the conventional chemical rocket systems, which carry both the oxygen and fuel on-board.

As a result, the air breathing systems become much lighter and more efficient, leading to reduced overall costs. As the air breathing systems have the capability to operate only during the atmospheric phase of flight, they always have to be adopted along with the conventional chemical rockets, for meeting the final orbital velocity requirements

http://www.domain-b.com/aero/20070425_indigenous.htm

What are the chances of this getting in RLV?
#25 by whitewatcher on 26 Apr, 2007 06:57
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02hurnella - 14/4/2007 8:11 PM
The only way people will walk on mars before 2040 is if there is a race! I say 2/3 faviroutes Nasa-1/9 euro-russian-1/9 china-1/9-India 1/9

My guess is 1/3 nasa, 1/3 euro-russian cooperation, 1/3 russia.
If you want to go to mars alone, you either need a very sophisticated concept or you can't afford it.
#26 by Startrex88 on 22 Jul, 2009 17:08
I read all the views about how great NASA is . No dispute NASA does work which is far superior to many of its rivals but please stop thinking that all others are no good .

First up : Indian space agency is not an outsourcing firm ,the amount of respect you get in the Indian society for being a part of Indian space programme is far more than what a pope can expect from an average catholic and it is due to some reasons let me list a few .

We have a country quite unlike the US .Here half our children still dont have any money to go to school . ISRO is the ONLY organisation in the world that has dedicated a satellite completely for primary school education . It is called EDUSAT which connects rural schools to top end research institutes of this country so that a lecture by an expert can be enjoyed by a student thousands of miles away .

Our health system is exemplary in many cities but lacks specialized care in villages and that is where ISRO tele medicine system comes in . We have dedicated solutions which are solely meant to make for example a Valve Replacement Heart surgery for a villager who does not have access to high quality city hospitals possible through tele medicine and information sharing networks.

We have a water mapping system and the data is provided free to farmers who depend a lot on where the water flows

These are just a few of the objectives that ISRO has for so long been after. We may have a 1/100 chance of making it to Mars by 2040 we may have to stand and applaud when NASA claims that it sent a probe to Titan but we still get the smiles and blessings of the ever neglected not so educated common man of India . And that is a force more powerful than any motivation that you can ever imagine .

So next time someone uses taxpayers money to send a probe to Andromeda to find if there is life there please remember that with a fraction of that taxpayers money in another part of this world someone is using all his skills from conventional flight theory to
nanotechnology not for the same purpose but to get nobler motives achieved . And believe me the satisfaction you get when you see an uneducated kid who would have remained uneducated if it wasnt for you flawlessly reciting "Mary Had A Little Lamb" is far more than what you get crashing a probe in a satellite filled with methane .