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India building a RLV! by Bruce H on 26 Feb, 2006 15:29
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#1 by Hotol on 26 Feb, 2006 16:30
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Anyone got images of what this looks like?
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#2 by FransonUK on 26 Feb, 2006 17:01
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Pass on the image, but more Indian stuff.
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=261561&n_date=20060226&cat=India -
#3 by Jamie Young on 26 Feb, 2006 17:02
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Hotol - 26/2/2006 11:30 AM
Anyone got images of what this looks like?
Found this!
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#4 by Sergi Manstov on 26 Feb, 2006 17:04
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This aswell. Small though.
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#5 by hornet on 26 Feb, 2006 17:33
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good news but sounds like a long way off due to development of technology. but if India were to partner with nasa on the vision...
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#6 by Martin FL on 26 Feb, 2006 18:35
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hornet - 26/2/2006 12:33 PM
good news but sounds like a long way off due to development of technology. but if India were to partner with nasa on the vision...
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=4301
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#7 by lmike on 26 Feb, 2006 22:35
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Sergi Manstov - 26/2/2006 10:04 AM
This aswell. Small though.
pic: rlv-isas-test-2001-sm.jpg
Judging by the caption it's the Japanese technology demonstrator from ISAS (JAXA center for aronautical and spacecraft research). RLV-RVT. http://www.isas.ac.jp/e/enterp/tech/vehicle/06.shtml They've done a few 'hopping' ( a few dozen meters up) tests. They *are* tiny demonstrators of primarily control systems.
links:
http://www.hobbyspace.com/Links/RLV/RLVCountdown2.html#RVT
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#8 by nacnud on 26 Feb, 2006 22:44
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Yeah I'd go with that, it's exactly what I thought when I saw that image. Simialar to the DC-X but smaller if I remember correctly.
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#9 by Mark Max Q on 27 Feb, 2006 03:57
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India is not lacking in scientists and engineers, but the know-how. An alliance with them would be pretty useful if the Chinese get too friendly with the Russians.
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#10 by lmike on 27 Feb, 2006 04:08
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Well, India is pretty much friendly with Russia as well. http://www.isro.org/gslv.htm The LH2 upper stage for their GSLV was designed and built by Khrunichev, (as well as a series of cruise missiles, naval ships, combat aircraft, etc...)
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#11 by Mark Max Q on 27 Feb, 2006 04:15
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For sure. I just hope we can get the Russians on side with us for the Moon and Mars, but I get the feeling they want to do that on their own or with the Chinese.
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#12 by lmike on 27 Feb, 2006 04:15
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Martin FL - 26/2/2006 11:35 AM
Quotehornet - 26/2/2006 12:33 PM
good news but sounds like a long way off due to development of technology. but if India were to partner with nasa on the vision...
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?id=4301
This just talks about how India would like to lobby the US to outsource a few of its remaining launches to the GSLV (been there, done that with the IT industry) -
#13 by Rocket Ronnie on 27 Feb, 2006 10:12
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#14 by Avron on 28 Feb, 2006 04:14
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Rocket Ronnie - 27/2/2006 6:12 AM
It gets more interesting!
http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=82065
Yes, very nice... I like the underlying concept.. just wonder about all the export controls etc.. -
#15 by MartianBase on 18 Mar, 2006 10:40
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Mark Max Q - 26/2/2006 10:57 PM
An alliance with them would be pretty useful if the Chinese get too friendly with the Russians.
India is just as selfish, insular and greedy as many other nations, probably 100 times worse than the self important and Franco-centrics, Francophiles or French-Fry politicans. India has been against many of the United States ally's, they only care about their own skin and India was something of a foe during the Cold-War.
Remember that NASA is the greatest space agency that ever existed so NASA will always have more to offer other Space Agency's in joint missions. NASA has more to give them when compared to the amount that they ( other space groups ) offer the USA/NASA !
Sadly NASA isn't a divine body nor can it do magic, it can't go everywhere and do everything because NASA is governed by the laws of rocketry physics as well as hampered by politics and economics. People would like NASA to go everywhere - build a new Shuttle, do an asteroid mission, fix Hubble, go to Saturn, send robots to Mars, fix the ISS, go to Europa, make a new base on Mars....
So in order to real its goals NASA must sometimes do joint co-operative missions.
Even though NASA is the greatest agency to ever exist, its does have limitations and we also have budget trouble - there are however a number of Space agency's that do have something great to offer NASA.
Russia is good because the Soviets were NASAs greatest rival. Russia have a huge experience with Venus, Salyut space station, rovers on the Moon, have done biospheres, long duration studies lived in space for double the time that NASA have, built Energia.
Europe even without space has a strong tradition of industry with great products like eurofighter, sports-cars and airbus. Today Europeans are studying exo-planets, testing ion-drives to the Moon, sending off spacecraft like Rosetta and ESA are launching many space telescopes. Japan and Canada also have something to offer, a large knowledge of robotics and Earth-satellite observation, the Japanese did have some of the greatest wonders of technology but today the Japanese industry is in decline and the economy has become stagnant since their economic bubble burst. China will soon surpass Japan in industry, economics and technology, they are building multiple launch pads, are buying companies like Rover and IBM, have a manned spacecraft it is only a matter of time before the Chinese have totally over-taken the Japanese in every area. China might soon have some skill, experience and technology to offer NASA , however political relations with China are mixed and I suspect they will be a rival in Space.
To ally with India could be totally worthless, I know Bush has some great visionary plans about outsourcing NASA to India but I think it is dumb to give them our technology because there is little to be gained in return. India is full of self importance and they only care about their own, they were on the wrong side during the cold war buying up Soviet missiles and MIGs so they could destroy the American made planes. I know people like the late JFK, Webb and Griffin would be very unhappy about outsouring space exploration to another country. Bush however has great plans for outsourcing and giving away technology went over to India and said there would be no curbs on outsourcing tech or aerospace designs from the U.S The only thing India has to offer is a cheap rocket launch so if we start outscouring to these guys we may aswell start outsourcing exploration to everyone else with a launch-pad, sounding-rocket or ballistic missile such as Iran, South Africa, Pakistan, Malaysia, Brazil, and North-Korea. -
#16 by Jackson on 22 Mar, 2006 11:30
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I like your references to France
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#17 by publiusr on 23 Mar, 2006 19:04
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I wish they would build Sea Dragon.
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#18 by nasafreak72 on 23 Jan, 2007 19:31
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"India is just as selfish, insular and greedy as many other nations"
You mean like us (the US)?
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#19 by publiusr on 02 Feb, 2007 18:55
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I like the Indians myself. Their 200 metric ton solids will give them Saturn IB/Titan IV capability--something Atlas V doesn't even have.
