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#320
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 May, 2009 17:59
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Talk about a sideways EVA...this is starting to look a lot like Apollo 16 when John Young and Charkie Duke broke just about everything they touched...Mass is starting to sound a bit pissy...I don't know if he was going back in the rotation or not, but I can't see him flying again...
Do you work for the AP?
The bolt head was likely ground out from its installation and comparing it to an EVA where everything they touched, they broke - is polar opposite to this mission's EVAs.
It's hardly the easiest of tasks ever conducted on an EVA and any sense of frustration is because he'll have his own very high standards for getting the job done....and he's not being helped by some of the hardware.
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#321
by
Kel
on 17 May, 2009 18:00
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Mass O2 recharged - heading back out to work.
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#322
by
MikeMi.
on 17 May, 2009 18:00
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Does Bueno need to go to airlock for recharging?
edit - nevermind..
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#323
by
Bubbinski
on 17 May, 2009 18:04
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Couple of nice shots, including one of HST:
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#324
by
dmelroy
on 17 May, 2009 18:04
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This whole mission is a poster child for the argument for 'man in space'. Can you image any robotic mission accomplishing what these spacewalks have ? These guys are doing a phenomenal job!
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#325
by
Kel
on 17 May, 2009 18:05
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Today's challenges make the case for the importance of manned space flight IMHO.
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#326
by
Bubbinski
on 17 May, 2009 18:05
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Yeah, I can't imagine that robotic mission they were trying to put together succeeding with all those stuck bolts and other issues.
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#327
by
AndrewSTS
on 17 May, 2009 18:07
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This whole mission is a poster child for the argument for 'man in space'. Can you image any robotic mission accomplishing what these spacewalks have ? These guys are doing a phenomenal job!
Absolutely correct. I know there's a few geeks who get overexcited about a Rover moving 10 feet between rocks of different sizes, but this is real space flight and this is what NASA is all about!!
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#328
by
Kel
on 17 May, 2009 18:08
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Still at the airlock getting tools and tethers organized.
Bueno visible in the foot restraints, Mass inside the airlock.
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#329
by
braddock
on 17 May, 2009 18:08
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Today's challenges make the case for the importance of manned space flight IMHO.
I'm not so sure. The NRO has flown half a dozen birds in Hubble's class, and has never needed a servicing mission (AFAIK).
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#330
by
Analyst
on 17 May, 2009 18:08
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This whole mission is a poster child for the argument for 'man in space'. Can you image any robotic mission accomplishing what these spacewalks have ? These guys are doing a phenomenal job!
Today's challenges make the case for the importance of manned space flight IMHO.
Not true, sadly. When you consider all, launching a replacement HST every 5 years would be way more effective. Not to spoil the moment, but this is no justification for HSF. Sadly, again.
Analyst
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#331
by
Nomadd
on 17 May, 2009 18:09
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I can just imagine the guy who put that bolt in 20 odd years ago shrinking down in his chair and waiting for the phone to ring.
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#332
by
Bubbinski
on 17 May, 2009 18:11
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Looks like Mass is now out the airlock. They're doing a glove check now.
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#333
by
robertross
on 17 May, 2009 18:12
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Not true, sadly. When you consider all, launching a replacement HST every 5 years would be way more effective. Not to spoil the moment, but this is no justification for HSF. Sadly, again.
Analyst
Just a quick add: But we are LEARNING what works and what doesn't...for EVA's, maybe even for future robotic repair missions. NO 100 SCREWS! 4 screws & latches only...or something along those lines.
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#334
by
Kel
on 17 May, 2009 18:13
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Today's challenges make the case for the importance of manned space flight IMHO.
I'm not so sure. The NRO has flown half a dozen birds in Hubble's class, and has never needed a servicing mission (AFAIK).
This whole mission is a poster child for the argument for 'man in space'. Can you image any robotic mission accomplishing what these spacewalks have ? These guys are doing a phenomenal job!
Not true, sadly. When you consider all, launching a replacement HST every 5 years would be way more effective. Not to spoil the moment, but this is no justification for HSF. Sadly, again.
Analyst
Perhaps, but not every repair mission in space will involve a telescope in LEO
<wishful thinking>
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#335
by
andymw
on 17 May, 2009 18:13
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These guys are doing a phenominal job! I know mass is getting stressy, but he did just put himself at quite a lot of risk when pulling off that handle. Do any of you know when in the timeline we will have to give up on this job? i.e. When do we have to have this plate off to give us a chance of completing the task?
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#336
by
Analyst
on 17 May, 2009 18:14
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Yeah, I can't imagine that robotic mission they were trying to put together succeeding with all those stuck bolts and other issues.
No need. They launch two, are still at least one magnitude more cost effective, have one failing (or not) and get the same or twice the output.
Absolutely correct. I know there's a few geeks who get overexcited about a Rover moving 10 feet between rocks of different sizes, but this is real space flight and this is what NASA is all about!!
I know a few geeks who get overexited about HSF. Right now.
They forget its very bad cost vs. benefit ratio.
Analyst
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#337
by
dmelroy
on 17 May, 2009 18:14
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Excellent points made on durability being built into devices such as HST. I know its wandering off topic a bit, but as we wait for things to get started again, I would say that flexibility is the key here. HST was certainly not designed for the duration its been up, but maximizing the investment is worth the effort. This is far better than letting this thing splash into the pacific ocean now that getting another 5 years out of it.
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#338
by
Bubbinski
on 17 May, 2009 18:14
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Glove inspection OK. 4:29 into EVA, approaching orbital sunset over southern Africa.
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#339
by
ugordan
on 17 May, 2009 18:14
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Absolutely correct. I know there's a few geeks who get overexcited about a Rover moving 10 feet between rocks of different sizes, but this is real space flight and this is what NASA is all about!!
Oh please. This is unwarranted attacking of "geeks" who follow robotic missions. You may be a fan of the manned space flight, but those puny rovers you mock do science at a place a human will never see with his own eyes for the next 20 years. Think about that the next time you complain about the glacial progress they're making in the context of science/dollar produced.
There's a place for human spaceflight and there's a place for robotic missions. This rivalry and taking potshots at the other camp is just childish and sickens me.
They forget its very bad cost vs. benefit ratio.