Author Topic: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14  (Read 361267 times)

Offline R.Simko

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #800 on: 07/14/2009 05:04 pm »
I hope SpaceX posts engine restart and deployment of the sat., if it's possible on their website.   

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I hope SpaceX posts engine restart and deployment of the sat., if it's possible on their website.   

Posted July 13, 2009 - 22:20 PDT

Second burn and satellite separation nominal. Falcon 1 has successfully deployed RazakSAT into the correct orbit. 

from here: http://www.spacex.com/webcast.php

- Al Murray

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #802 on: 07/14/2009 05:12 pm »
Slightly related to that - inaugural Atlas V launch, video after 6:00 shows noticeable RL-10 gimballing. Hard to judge from two different cameras and FOVs, but I'd say more gimballing than Kestrel for most of the flight. By the same token that affects performance, does it not?


The vehicle isn't moving

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #803 on: 07/14/2009 05:21 pm »
Given that this is the fifth launch of a new launch system built by a new constructor with no background in the field, SpaceX must be very proud that the only thing that the quibblers here can find wrong is a minor, off nominal, "wiggling". ;D

I just hope that this success brings SpaceX a lot of new Falcon 1 contracts.

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« Last Edit: 07/14/2009 05:24 pm by Norm Hartnett »
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #804 on: 07/14/2009 05:35 pm »
The vehicle isn't moving

Which means slight cosine losses anyway each time the engine gimbals to maintain vehicle control. No doubt something already accounted for in the vehicle performance margin. I don't see why that couldn't be the case with F1 as well, the wobble seems confined enough.

It might not be implausible to suggest the reduction in performance is less this way than what would be brought about by adding more mass to baffles. But then again, I'm just an enthusiast. The real question is whether the slosh motion still has a chance to get into a positive feedback loop with the guidance and spiral out of control. These last two flights kept it at bay, definitely different than Demo 2 but you never know. I'd also rather have a steady vehicle. Maybe on F1e with more capability...

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #805 on: 07/14/2009 05:52 pm »
SpaceX now has a "highlights" video of flight5 on their video page:

http://www.spacex.com/multimedia/videos.php?id=40&cat=recent

Includes second burn, but no footage of spacecraft sep.
« Last Edit: 07/14/2009 05:57 pm by corrodedNut »

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #806 on: 07/14/2009 05:58 pm »
SpaceX now has a "highlights" video of flight5 on their video page:

http://www.spacex.com/multimedia/videos.php?id=40&cat=recent

Includes second burn, but no footage of spacecraft sep.

Nice.. even showed the restart of kestral for circularizing the orbit (certainly is a short burn). The only thing missing is the satellite deploy
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #807 on: 07/14/2009 06:00 pm »

Here are a few pictures of the sequence in question... Hope it is not too many - I just wanted to show the sequence...

Thanks stockman for posting that sequence, as I can't watch YouTube yet (maybe this fall).

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #808 on: 07/14/2009 06:05 pm »
The only thing missing is the satellite deploy

In pitch darkness, I'd venture a guess you wouldn't see much. ;D

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #809 on: 07/14/2009 06:06 pm »
The only thing missing is the satellite deploy

In pitch darkness, I'd venture a guess you wouldn't see much. ;D

Good point.. :)
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #810 on: 07/14/2009 06:10 pm »
Wouldn't have been too hard to have a few "white light" LED's on the camera to see payload  sep with. Bigger issue probably was supporting the video downlink with the telemetry.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #811 on: 07/14/2009 06:18 pm »
Where would you put the LEDs? Between 2nd stage and the payload was the SoftRide vibration dampener.

As they say, better is the enemy of good enough. Keeping it simple and light. We should be grateful they make it standard practice to put onboard cameras on such a small vehicle at all.
« Last Edit: 07/14/2009 06:53 pm by ugordan »

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #812 on: 07/14/2009 06:39 pm »
Ascension reacquires signal from the SpaceX highlights video:

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #813 on: 07/14/2009 06:44 pm »
Congratulations to all with the first successful commercial flight of SpaceX!!!


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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #814 on: 07/14/2009 07:07 pm »
Very nice , congrats, wonder if the 1st stage was tracked back to earth... I guess all the recovery stuff was taken off to reduce load for this launch

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #815 on: 07/14/2009 07:07 pm »
Contact has been made with the satellite:
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/news_lite.php?id=425261

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #816 on: 07/14/2009 07:10 pm »
Congratulations Elon!

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #817 on: 07/14/2009 07:12 pm »
Here's an on-board video of an Ariane 5 launch.  Notice the horizon "wiggling" as the ascent proceeds, about 3:30-4:00 and later into the video.   


I'm going to look for some comparable on-board Centaur and Delta upper stage video.

 - Ed Kyle

Good find Ed... Next to that the Falcon looks rock steady.... I think even the shuttle stack has some wiggle to it (I seem to recall people mentioning it in the STS125 launch from the Tank perspective). Not as much but definitely it occurs..
No wonder.
This isn't realtime but double speed.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #818 on: 07/14/2009 07:15 pm »
Contact has been made with the satellite:
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/news_lite.php?id=425261


He also announced that SpaceX has agreed to launch the two micro-satellites CubeSAT and InnoSAT, meant for educational purposes, next year on Falcon 9.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14
« Reply #819 on: 07/14/2009 07:24 pm »
Contact has been made with the satellite:
http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/news_lite.php?id=425261



NOW can we call this a successful flight!!  :)
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