Author Topic: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon 1 Launch 5 (RazakSat) - July 13/14 (Read 361285 times)

osiossim · « **Reply #60 on:** 03/12/2009 06:17 am »

Quote from: ugordan on 03/11/2009 11:36 am

Quote from: osiossim on 03/11/2009 11:20 am
But, the first and the second stages of the launch vehicle will leave the factory soon.

Where did you read this? HMXHMX said a couple of posts back that F1 was already shipped to Kwaj.

I did not read it!

ugordan · « **Reply #61 on:** 03/12/2009 10:00 am »

Quote from: osiossim on 03/12/2009 06:17 am

Quote from: ugordan on 03/11/2009 11:36 am
Where did you read this? HMXHMX said a couple of posts back that F1 was already shipped to Kwaj.

I did not read it!

Do I need to reformulate my question then or does that imply you only assumed that bit?

RazakSAT launch on April 21:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/3/12/nation/20090312151304&sec=nation

subzero788 · « **Reply #62 on:** 03/12/2009 10:59 am »

It's strange that on the updated manifest the Falcon 9 debut is ahead of the Falcon 1 launch

http://www.spacex.com/launch_manifest.php

Ben the Space Brit · « **Reply #63 on:** 03/12/2009 01:16 pm »

@ Subzero 788

This has been addressed before. Basically, that list shows the date of arrival at the launch site. The F9 demonstrator was delivered to the Cape, even though there isn't currently anything to launch it from, before the F1 for RazakSat even left the factory.

FWIW, I don't think that the F9 prototype at the Cape is even flight-worthy at the moment.

NUAETIUS · « **Reply #64 on:** 03/12/2009 01:45 pm »

"Science, Technology and Innovation Deputy Minister Fadilah Yusof said the satellite was scheduled to be flown via a Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) C130 aircraft from Subang to the Bucholz Army Airfield, Kwajalein on March 21"

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/3/12/nation/20090312151304&sec=nation

They are flying a satellite that ways less than a 1/2 ton half way around the world in a C130? That's certainly not overkill.

William Barton · « **Reply #65 on:** 03/12/2009 01:55 pm »

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/12/2009 01:45 pm

"Science, Technology and Innovation Deputy Minister Fadilah Yusof said the satellite was scheduled to be flown via a Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) C130 aircraft from Subang to the Bucholz Army Airfield, Kwajalein on March 21"

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/3/12/nation/20090312151304&sec=nation

They are flying a satellite that ways less than a 1/2 ton half way around the world in a C130? That's certainly not overkill.

Maybe it's the only plane they have that can get there? I drive my Ranger to the store just to get a 6-pack....

MKremer · « **Reply #66 on:** 03/12/2009 03:18 pm »

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/12/2009 01:45 pm

They are flying a satellite that ways less than a 1/2 ton half way around the world in a C130? That's certainly not overkill.

The sat may only weigh 1/2 ton, but it's in its environmental transport container. There's also the ground support and test equipment for final launch prep's and checkouts, lifting supports, stands, carts, etc., plus any support techs needed for the launch processing and tests.

ugordan · « **Reply #67 on:** 03/14/2009 12:44 pm »

Quote from: subzero788 on 03/12/2009 10:59 am

It's strange that on the updated manifest the Falcon 9 debut is ahead of the Falcon 1 launch

http://www.spacex.com/launch_manifest.php

Someone over there might be reading this since it's now fixed.

NUAETIUS · « **Reply #68 on:** 03/14/2009 02:28 pm »

Quote from: ugordan on 03/14/2009 12:44 pm

Someone over there might be reading this since it's now fixed.

Considering the culture of the company, I have very little doubt that at least 50 of the 500+ people at that company lurk on these and other forums.

I can only imagine what it is like to read a forum that has hundreds of speculative posts over the properties of the SpaceX products, while working on said products during my day job.

Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

Antares · « **Reply #69 on:** 03/14/2009 05:48 pm »

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/14/2009 02:28 pm

Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

Sorry, what objective evidence do you have for that statement?

NUAETIUS · « **Reply #70 on:** 03/14/2009 07:06 pm »

Quote from: Antares on 03/14/2009 05:48 pm

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/14/2009 02:28 pm
Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.
Sorry, what objective evidence do you have for that statement?

Objective evidence? None unfortunately. Implied? Custom memos distributed at Tesla to root out source of leaks.

If the full schematics for every component on the Model S made its way onto bittorent tomorrow there would be no legal issues for Tesla. On the other hand if the same happended with the the Merlin, or Falcon or Kestral I assume that ITAR would come down on SpaceX with both feet.

If not having your thunder stolen by a leaked photo of a car is worth writing many different versions of the same memo, I assume that saying out of court is worth a little bit more.

kevin-rf · « **Reply #71 on:** 03/15/2009 01:18 pm »

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/14/2009 07:06 pm

Implied? Custom memos distributed at Tesla to root out source of leaks.

Meaning every memo is slightly different, be it as small as an extra space or puntuation mark I assume

Smart process, I wonder if anyone makes a memo water mark generator for that ...

NUAETIUS · « **Reply #72 on:** 03/15/2009 02:49 pm »

Quote from: kevin-rf on 03/15/2009 01:18 pm

Smart process, I wonder if anyone makes a memo water mark generator for that ...

If your memos at your work are distributed in .pdf form, look at the punctuation. Most common trick is to see several different font commas in the same document. If it is leaked HR can sit down and look at the the copy forwarded out and compare the punctuation fonts with their database. VERY few people can tell the difference between an Ariel and New roman comma or question mark, but if you are looking for it you can tell the they don't match.

Companies do this all the time, I can't believe Elon Musk was involved in such a ham handed attempt to do something so common. Maybe he should have hired a consultant.

dragon44 · « **Reply #73 on:** 03/17/2009 12:48 am »

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Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

I'm reading this on a SpaceX computer.
Lurker

rsnellenberger · « **Reply #74 on:** 03/17/2009 01:48 am »

Quote from: dragon44 on 03/17/2009 12:48 am

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Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

I'm reading this on a SpaceX computer.
Lurker

Maybe so, dragon, but you're just a capsule prototype so you don't count as much

MKremer · « **Reply #75 on:** 03/17/2009 01:53 am »

Quote from: NUAETIUS on 03/14/2009 02:28 pm

Quote from: ugordan on 03/14/2009 12:44 pm
Someone over there might be reading this since it's now fixed.

Considering the culture of the company, I have very little doubt that at least 50 of the 500+ people at that company lurk on these and other forums.

I can only imagine what it is like to read a forum that has hundreds of speculative posts over the properties of the SpaceX products, while working on said products during my day job.

Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

That's rather silly if you think about it. Why would they only read those sites at work? Elon has the ability to block his employees' home internet access to certain sites as well?

ChefPat · « **Reply #76 on:** 03/17/2009 01:57 am »

Quote from: dragon44 on 03/17/2009 12:48 am

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Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

I'm reading this on a SpaceX computer.
Lurker

Welcome. I hope you stick around.

mlorrey · « **Reply #77 on:** 03/17/2009 02:56 pm »

Quote from: dragon44 on 03/17/2009 12:48 am

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Question is, are this and other websites like it blocked on the SpaceX computers? Considering Elon Musk's desire to reduce leaks it would make a lot of since.

I'm reading this on a SpaceX computer.
Lurker

YAY.

R.Simko · « **Reply #78 on:** 03/17/2009 02:57 pm »

I would think that SpaceX (Elon) actually encourages their employees to follow websites like this. There is a lot of important info., that can be garnered from sites like this. From ideas they may have not thought of, to forseeing problems they may run into and how they might correct or avert them.

ugordan · « **Reply #79 on:** 03/17/2009 09:49 pm »

A short update on Falcon 1 flight 5 first stage shipment on the update page:

http://spacex.com/updates.php