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Designs for India's First Manned Spaceship Revealed
by
AnimatorRob
on 11 Feb, 2009 15:59
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#1
by
kevin-rf
on 11 Feb, 2009 17:14
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The Soyuz reentry shape wins again, looks quite roomy if the cutaway is properly scaled. What is the GSLV payload diameter?
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#2
by
Patchouli
on 11 Feb, 2009 17:43
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Looks more like a scaled down Dragon reentry shape vs a Soyuz.
GSLV MK-II is less then half as powerful as F9 so it's pretty remarkable they figured out how to launch a 3 place vehicle on it.
But then moving a lot off stuff Dragon has in the reentry vehicle to a service module would save a lot of mass since you don't need thermo protection,parachutes, and a LAS to lift it.
Plus this vehicle likely lacks a lot of features commonly found on later western vehicles and many Russian vehicles as well.
It might be very spartan like Gemini was.
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#3
by
johnxx9
on 12 Feb, 2009 16:16
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#4
by
johnxx9
on 12 Feb, 2009 16:24
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Actually, we can see the adaptor on top. This is add the orbital module to it. The orbital module will be quite larger (larger than Soyuz and comparable to Shenzhou)
Service module + Re-entry module ------> GSLV Mk-2 (5 ton LEO capability)
Service module + Orbital module + Re-entry module ------> GSLV Mk-3 (13 tons to in basic version)
The 1st design will be launched by 2015 because it is simpler and doesn't require a new launch vehicle.
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#5
by
Slava33
on 12 Feb, 2009 17:34
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Are those fins

on the bottom of the service module and the SRBs?
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#6
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 13 Feb, 2009 00:13
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So what is the power source, odiously it is not solar panels. Would It have Fuel cells or batteries. I suspect the latter, which would make it primitive compared to other spacecraft....
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#7
by
Patchouli
on 13 Feb, 2009 00:44
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So what is the power source, odiously it is not solar panels. Would It have Fuel cells or batteries. I suspect the latter, which would make it primitive compared to other spacecraft....
I suspect fuel cells as batteries would not have much endurance plus the fuel cells also produce water for drinking and cooling.
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#8
by
hesidu
on 13 Feb, 2009 02:14
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Don't you think it's a bit risky to use soild rocket boosters to launch manned space vehicle ? And also GSLV-MKII don't have a good successful rate.
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#9
by
Marsman
on 13 Feb, 2009 02:25
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Solids on a manned vehicle-Space Shuttle? Ares 1?
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#10
by
Bubbinski
on 13 Feb, 2009 04:11
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Is the orbital module adapter also going to be a docking port? Are the Indians planning a space station or man-tended lab of their own, or would they be more interested in joining the ISS program (and docking their craft there)?
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#11
by
kch
on 13 Feb, 2009 04:47
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Are those fins
on the bottom of the service module and the SRBs?
Not sure about the service module, but they very well could be on the boosters -- have you forgotten that both the Saturn IB and Saturn V had fins?
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#12
by
kch
on 13 Feb, 2009 04:51
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Solids on a manned vehicle-Space Shuttle? Ares 1?
Not exactly unknown, is it? Also, in this case, it's the first-stage *core* that uses solid propellant (as with Ares I) -- the strap-ons use liquid propellant ("LRBs").
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#13
by
johnxx9
on 14 Feb, 2009 09:46
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So what is the power source, odiously it is not solar panels. Would It have Fuel cells or batteries. I suspect the latter, which would make it primitive compared to other spacecraft....
No. There are solar panels. See this. It's the mission procedure as given by ISRO..........
It clearly shows solar panels
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#14
by
William Graham
on 14 Feb, 2009 10:30
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And also GSLV-MKII don't have a good successful rate.
It hasn't been launched yet.
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#15
by
Danderman
on 17 Feb, 2009 15:17
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#16
by
johnxx9
on 17 Feb, 2009 15:28
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Designs for India's First Manned Spaceship Revealed:
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/090211-india-manned-spaceship.html
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200902161951.htm
Here is the result of all the "India to launch crew into space in 2013" and "India to land man on Moon by 2020" hype. I will extract the key information from the article:
"The space agency has received Rs 50 crore for its programme to send a human in space. "
I believe that this is $10 million US, for their entire human spaceflight program.
That is the allocation for the program from the main budget of ISRO. That 10 million will go for the SRE-2 and other technology demonstrators.
The manned mission budget ie 2.5 million USD has to be passed as a seperate bill by the Parliament. The Department of Space which is is incharge on the space program has already accepted the bill. The last stage is passing the bill by the Parliament. That will only take place once the new government comes to power in May this year.
The amount is so large, therefore it can't be passed as a part of ISRO's yearly budget. It has be passed as a seperate bill.
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#17
by
Swatch
on 17 Feb, 2009 15:42
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Are those fins
on the bottom of the service module and the SRBs?
Not sure about the service module, but they very well could be on the boosters -- have you forgotten that both the Saturn IB and Saturn V had fins? 
Had them, but did not need them...
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#18
by
hesidu
on 18 Feb, 2009 03:04
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And also GSLV-MKII don't have a good successful rate.
It hasn't been launched yet.
Sorry, I mean GSLV-MK1.
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#19
by
johnxx9
on 18 Feb, 2009 08:32
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And also GSLV-MKII don't have a good successful rate.
It hasn't been launched yet.
Sorry, I mean GSLV-MK1.
There has only been 5 fights of GSLV Mk-1 and 1 was unsuccessful. During that flight, the vehicle veered away from the trajectory due to a faulty thrust vectoring nozzle in a LSB. Therefore, the mission computer commanded the whole vehicle to self-destruct.
If anything of that sort happened during a manned flight, the mission computer would command mission abort and emergency escape. That's as simple as that. There was no complete failure of the GSLV Mk-1.