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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #660 on: 06/13/2011 02:10 pm »
Here's the presentation that went with that slideshow.

Robert Bigelow’s Keynote Address at the 2011 ISDC Governors’ Gala
http://moonandback.com/2011/06/02/robert-bigelows-keynote-address-at-the-2011-isdc-governors-gala/

Anyone know if it is on youtube? Thank.

When I click it I get this message: 

"The dreaded 404 error page!
I am sorry, but somehow, inspite of our best efforts, you managed to find a dead link.

Or perhaps you typed in a URL incorrectly.

Try searching for something, or going to the front page of the site"

Try this link:
http://moonandback.com/2011/06/03/robert-bigelows-keynote-address-at-the-2011-isdc-governors-gala/

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #662 on: 06/21/2011 01:50 am »
Las Vegas Inventor's Ideas Take Shape

"Bigelow Aerospace expects to add more than 1,000 jobs over the next three years once it finishes construction on a massive annex. And there may be spots open for recruits from local set designers and artists."

Really?


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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #663 on: 06/21/2011 02:07 am »
Las Vegas Inventor's Ideas Take Shape

"Bigelow Aerospace expects to add more than 1,000 jobs over the next three years once it finishes construction on a massive annex. And there may be spots open for recruits from local set designers and artists."

Really?

I guess so. Interestng marketing strategy.

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #664 on: 06/21/2011 02:41 am »
Las Vegas Inventor's Ideas Take Shape

"Bigelow Aerospace expects to add more than 1,000 jobs over the next three years once it finishes construction on a massive annex. And there may be spots open for recruits from local set designers and artists."

Really?
Bigelow will have to get his electricians, plumbers and carpenters from somewhere.

This reminds me of the way British ship yards sold warships by sending models to the Admiralty.

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #665 on: 06/21/2011 02:16 pm »
In the ISDC presentation Bigelow said they were condidering building the BA-2100 in Huntsville & transporting them to Florida by water.
How would the water transport be done?
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #666 on: 06/21/2011 02:23 pm »
How would the water transport be done?

On a boat. 
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #667 on: 06/21/2011 02:38 pm »
How would the water transport be done?

On a boat. 
LOL :)
I've looked at the map around Huntsville & can't find a river route either to the coast or directly to Florida.
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #668 on: 06/21/2011 03:20 pm »
I would assume the same route that the Shuttle ET's
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #669 on: 06/21/2011 03:23 pm »
I've looked at the map around Huntsville & can't find a river route either to the coast or directly to Florida.

The Tennessee River is linked to the Gulf via the Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee-Tombigbee_Waterway
« Last Edit: 06/21/2011 03:26 pm by Space Junkie »

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #670 on: 06/21/2011 03:25 pm »
ET's are made in Lousiana.

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #671 on: 06/21/2011 06:49 pm »
In the ISDC presentation Bigelow said they were condidering building the BA-2100 in Huntsville & transporting them to Florida by water.
How would the water transport be done?

Hmmm... I'm wondering if the Marines have any surplus LCACs.
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #672 on: 06/21/2011 07:08 pm »
"Really" was sarcasm.

As in, who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

Bigelow won't spend the big bucks on construction without a customer, and without transport to his station, there is no customer.

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #673 on: 06/21/2011 07:40 pm »
... who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

1. Robert Bigelow will pay for them
2. He has customers who have signed MOU's pending development.
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #674 on: 06/21/2011 09:48 pm »
... who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

1. Robert Bigelow will pay for them
2. He has customers who have signed MOU's pending development.

Think the issue is the launcher(s) not the customer.
 
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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #675 on: 06/21/2011 09:57 pm »
... who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

1. Robert Bigelow will pay for them
2. He has customers who have signed MOU's pending development.

Getting back to reality, Bigelow will not borrow the money to pay for construction of space platforms on the basis of MOUs. In the real world, such activity would be conducted on the basis of contracts, with payment tranches. Until such contracts are completed, nothing will happen with Bigelow, except for models, mockups and construction of buildings that may be sold later.

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #676 on: 06/22/2011 03:25 am »
... who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

1. Robert Bigelow will pay for them
2. He has customers who have signed MOU's pending development.

Getting back to reality, Bigelow will not borrow the money to pay for construction of space platforms on the basis of MOUs. In the real world, such activity would be conducted on the basis of contracts, with payment tranches. Until such contracts are completed, nothing will happen with Bigelow, except for models, mockups and construction of buildings that may be sold later.


I believe Bigelow's current publicly stated plans involve launching Space Station Alpha and leasing the property on a dedicated timescale, rather than as soon as a lease is confirmed. Have you heard something else from somwhere?
"It’s the typical binary world of 'NASA is great' or 'cancel the space program,' with no nuance or understanding of the underlying issues and pathologies of the space industrial complex."

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #677 on: 06/22/2011 03:49 am »
... who is going to pay for all those new workers that Bigelow is saying might be hired? As long as there is no customer for large pressurized volumes in space, its all just hope.

1. Robert Bigelow will pay for them
2. He has customers who have signed MOU's pending development.

Getting back to reality, Bigelow will not borrow the money to pay for construction of space platforms on the basis of MOUs. In the real world, such activity would be conducted on the basis of contracts, with payment tranches. Until such contracts are completed, nothing will happen with Bigelow, except for models, mockups and construction of buildings that may be sold later.


I believe Bigelow's current publicly stated plans involve launching Space Station Alpha and leasing the property on a dedicated timescale, rather than as soon as a lease is confirmed. Have you heard something else from somwhere?

I believe that Bigelow has said repeatedly that his requirements for launching a platform are:

a) having affordable and reliable space transportation, and

b) a customer

Does anyone believe that Bigelow Aerospace is going to launch some space station without either of these in place?
« Last Edit: 06/22/2011 03:50 am by Danderman »

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #678 on: 06/22/2011 03:51 am »
Ah, thank you. When I have more time, I'll look for that statement and throw it up on this thread. It'll be useful to keep in mind when evaluating his approach.
"It’s the typical binary world of 'NASA is great' or 'cancel the space program,' with no nuance or understanding of the underlying issues and pathologies of the space industrial complex."

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Re: What's Happening at Bigelow?
« Reply #679 on: 06/22/2011 04:16 am »
Ah, thank you. When I have more time, I'll look for that statement and throw it up on this thread. It'll be useful to keep in mind when evaluating his approach.

Let's assume you never find that statement. Would you believe that Bigelow Aerospace would launch a space station in the absence of a customer?

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