I must say I am somewhat disappointed that ISRO has chosen to partner with Roskosmos rather than NASA on this project ... I really think the US and India should become MUCH closer space partners.
Its a natural alliance I think ... the most powerful democracy and the largest working together to push the boundaries of space exploration just makes more sense than India-Russia.
The next NASA Administrator should be given the authority to broaden and deepen our relationship with ISRO.
US is most unlikely country to transfer hi-technology to other country.
Otherwise US would allow India to the ISS.
So we had an Asian space race now. I'm wondering if India will end up putting men into space. Are they going to do EVA, docking and build spacelab? If so, it would reflect on the infrastructures built in the here future. Like China, instand of building one launch pad, they build two manned space launch pad, so two spaceships can be launched within a month. Then those two spaceships can dock in the space. Other things like, they build a 10m diameters vacuum chamber, which could be used for the future spacelab test, instand of build a 3-5m diameters vacuum chamber, just for the shenzhou spaceship.
Another thing, it possible for India to put a man into space before 2015. Is it possible for India to put a man on the moon in 2020 ?
How many unmanned tests will be performed before manned spaceship ? 2013-2014 for the first unmanned launch, 2014-2015 for the first manned launch. So how many launches can be ramped up in two year ? And also, two man and 7 days flight for the first time ? Isn't it a bit risky ?
There will be about 3-4 unmanned launches in the 2 years pror to the actual launch. Launch abort tests and even a flight with some mice etc like the Chinese is on the board,
In India, 3 successful fights are the minimum requirement for commissioning a launch vehicle, there fore we could expect 3-4 unmanned launches
I must say I am somewhat disappointed that ISRO has chosen to partner with Roskosmos rather than NASA on this project ... I really think the US and India should become MUCH closer space partners.
Its a natural alliance I think ... the most powerful democracy and the largest working together to push the boundaries of space exploration just makes more sense than India-Russia.
The next NASA Administrator should be given the authority to broaden and deepen our relationship with ISRO.
Roskosmos is just providing India with required consultancy, it's not that are completely copying Soyuz. It's like what China did, but that was more secretive.
NASA refused ESA a part in the 'Constellation Program', even though it being NASA's closest partner. Indo-Russian relations have always been very strong and they have helped India and China my times, some where secretive and some are well-known.
I think NASA must now somehow help ESA and JAXA in their manned ambitions.
Roskosmos is just providing India with required consultancy, it's not that are completely copying Soyuz. It's like what China did, but that was more secretive.
NASA refused ESA a part in the 'Constellation Program', even though it being NASA's closest partner. Indo-Russian relations have always been very strong and they have helped India and China my times, some where secretive and some are well-known.
I think NASA must now somehow help ESA and JAXA in their manned ambitions.
I don't know how Russia participated in the Chinese manned space program. One thing is clear, Russia did helped trianing Chinese astronauts. But according to one chief enginner, China asked Russia to consult for their emergency abort system. But Russia charged 10 million USD. So China refused.
According to information I collected, Russia didn't helped China's manned space project, except trianing astronauts. But why Shenzhou looks so fermiliar to Soyuz ? As long as I know, the shape and three modules structure of Soyuz holds many scientific and engineering expertise, which can be get from a fine toy. And Chinese has tradition to follow the masters rather than innovation. So the resemblance of Shenzhou and Soyuz doesn't nessery means China copied Soyuz, or Russia helped China building Shenzhou. And also when China started to build SSBN, when Russia and China was in confrontation. China did smuggled SSBN toy from USA, to study to the shape of SSBN.
Roskosmos is just providing India with required consultancy, it's not that are completely copying Soyuz. It's like what China did, but that was more secretive.
NASA refused ESA a part in the 'Constellation Program', even though it being NASA's closest partner. Indo-Russian relations have always been very strong and they have helped India and China my times, some where secretive and some are well-known.
I think NASA must now somehow help ESA and JAXA in their manned ambitions.
I don't know how Russia participated in the Chinese manned space program. One thing is clear, Russia did helped trianing Chinese astronauts. But according to one chief enginner, China asked Russia to consult for their emergency abort system. But Russia charged 10 million USD. So China refused.
According to information I collected, Russia didn't helped China's manned space project, except trianing astronauts. But why Shenzhou looks so fermiliar to Soyuz ? As long as I know, the shape and three modules structure of Soyuz holds many scientific and engineering expertise, which can be get from a fine toy. And Chinese has tradition to follow the masters rather than innovation. So the resemblance of Shenzhou and Soyuz doesn't nessery means China copied Soyuz, or Russia helped China building Shenzhou. And also when China started to build SSBN, when Russia and China was in confrontation. China did smuggled SSBN toy from USA, to study to the shape of SSBN.
I am not saying that Shenzhou is a copy of Soyuz. But the Russians have helped them with consultation in some fields. Similarly, the Indian orbital vehicle has also borrowed some of the ideas from Soyuz, but frankly speaking there is a lot of difference between Soyuz, Shenzhou and the Indian OV.
For example, the OV will have the largest re-entry among the three. The Shenzhou has an independent orbital module etc etc etc.
My view is that both the Indians and Chinese received some help help in the past to pursue their space-ambitions. Let's be clear. No country can develop everything indigenously!
Lets not forget that practically all current rocket engines are directly or indirectly based on German WWII work on the V2 and further development by German engineers imported to the US and Russia. Today copying is always frowned upon but in reallity that's why innovation works, you don't have to reinvent the wheel. Ideally you would pay for using developments from others but that hasn't been the case for a lot of things.
I'm bit confused. Talking about making toy or car, if one is very fermiliar to another, we can say there is IP violation. But talking about making spaceship, fighters, plane or sophisticated weapon system, the resemblance also means IP violation ?