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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #200 on: 08/03/2008 12:51 am »
"Hold is due to extended time needed to cryochill the helium."

http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/


(Posted by collectSPACE earlier, just giving updates as needed)

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #201 on: 08/03/2008 12:51 am »
Remember, last launch they offloaded, reloaded, and launched in a hour or so... for the same problem, temp. problem caused pressure deficiency
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #202 on: 08/03/2008 12:51 am »
They are recycling or scrubbing ?

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #203 on: 08/03/2008 12:51 am »
Quite a nice collection of Haas machines...

Can the moderators ask people to post images, rather than just writing text, as it's no help to those of us who are unable to get the webcast. Thanks.

Due to the difficulty of image capture when dealing with a flash movie.. This is a bit much to ask..

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #204 on: 08/03/2008 12:51 am »
Sudden cut back to HQ.  I'm not sure Max Knows when he's on... He's still talking away...

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #205 on: 08/03/2008 12:52 am »
Remember, last launch they offloaded, reloaded, and launched in a hour or so...

That was historic but something tells me they will not try that again.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #206 on: 08/03/2008 12:52 am »
Last time they offloaded, reloaded, and launched...after an engine firing!  Hopefully this isn't a scrub.  The clocks are still running.  Count down at -16:00 and hold at +12:42.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #207 on: 08/03/2008 12:53 am »
Quite a nice collection of Haas machines...

Can the moderators ask people to post images, rather than just writing text, as it's no help to those of us who are unable to get the webcast. Thanks.

Sorry, my snap missed what I saw, got about 5 seconds later image.  It's really tough to capture the stream that we're getting...

I'll keep trying. :-)

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #208 on: 08/03/2008 12:53 am »
Falcon 1 is at 98% helium mass load, but as we all know, that last 2% is a bitch. (Asymptotically approaching the limit of the heat exchanger)

http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #209 on: 08/03/2008 12:54 am »
Quite a nice collection of Haas machines...

Can the moderators ask people to post images, rather than just writing text, as it's no help to those of us who are unable to get the webcast. Thanks.

Sorry, my snap missed what I saw, got about 5 seconds later image.  It's really tough to capture the stream that we're getting...

I'll keep trying. :-)

This is the reason they need to either not use flash or use a Hybrid. There is no way the media is showing this live when the quality is so low.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #210 on: 08/03/2008 12:54 am »
From the blog:
http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

Quote

Hold is due to extended time needed to cryochill the helium.

Falcon 1 is at 98% helium mass load, but as we all know, that last 2% is a bitch. (Asymptotically approaching the limit of the heat exchanger).

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #211 on: 08/03/2008 12:54 am »
I think Elon decided to just blow-us-away with his company's efforts!

As you watch the video, we are looking at hundreds of millions-of-dollars of infrastructure. Elon funded some of this.

I can't record the streaming video. It's not based on standard/normal methods. It's going through Flash or something.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #212 on: 08/03/2008 12:54 am »
Falcon 1 is at 98% helium mass load, but as we all know, that last 2% is a bitch. (Asymptotically approaching the limit of the heat exchanger)

http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

Ah, so they may be temporarily offloading some of the fuel to make sure that it doesn't get too cold while they finish topping off the helium?

~Jon

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #214 on: 08/03/2008 12:55 am »
15 minutes into the hold.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #215 on: 08/03/2008 12:56 am »
Falcon 1 is at 98% helium mass load, but as we all know, that last 2% is a bitch. (Asymptotically approaching the limit of the heat exchanger)

http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

Ah, so they may be temporarily offloading some of the fuel to make sure that it doesn't get too cold while they finish topping off the helium?

~Jon

Very possibly, it's a trick of the trade.  The more energy you get in the propellant before you burn it, the more chamber pressure you get when you fly...  Within limits, of course.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #216 on: 08/03/2008 12:57 am »
Quite a nice collection of Haas machines...

Can the moderators ask people to post images, rather than just writing text, as it's no help to those of us who are unable to get the webcast. Thanks.

Sorry, my snap missed what I saw, got about 5 seconds later image.  It's really tough to capture the stream that we're getting...

I'll keep trying. :-)

This is the reason they need to either not use flash or use a Hybrid. There is no way the media is showing this live when the quality is so low.

Can capture easily with HyperSnap.

Let's keep this thread on task of updates with the launch, not how to capture flash video screenshots.  ;)

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #217 on: 08/03/2008 12:57 am »
It's fascinating that the guys in charge of the comment hadn't a word about the hold under way.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #218 on: 08/03/2008 12:57 am »
They are going to refuel!!

Edit: They do not know yet when they will do so.
« Last Edit: 08/03/2008 12:58 am by Zachstar »

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #219 on: 08/03/2008 12:57 am »
"Still detanking, no estimated time on refueling."

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