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Offline Chris Bergin

Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #100 on: 08/02/2008 11:37 pm »
Picking up the count in 5 mins.

00:40 ZULU new launch time.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #101 on: 08/02/2008 11:41 pm »
They seem to be having some problems with the videos.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #102 on: 08/02/2008 11:42 pm »
Trying to go back,minor audio glitches, bouncing back and forth between canned video and live video...

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #103 on: 08/02/2008 11:42 pm »
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #104 on: 08/02/2008 11:43 pm »
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #105 on: 08/02/2008 11:45 pm »
Still in the hold...
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #106 on: 08/02/2008 11:48 pm »
more from press Pack:

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Here's a diddy on the rockin' Merlin 1C, the main engine of Falcon 1 Vehicle 3.



The pintle style injector at the heart of Merlin was first used in the Apollo Moon program for the Lunar Excursion Module (LEM) landing engine, one of the most critical phases of the mission.

Specs:

Sea Level Thrust: 78,000 lb - those three F-16s I mentioned earlier
Vacuum Thrust: 138,400 lb - everything is just better in space.
Sea Level Isp: 255 s - Isp is Specific Impulse
Vacuum Isp: 304 s

Now I know you're asking: What exactly is Isp, Kimbal? Well, funny you ask. I just happen to have an explanation...

For the Rocket Scientists out there...

The specific impulse Isp is given by:

Isp = Veq / g0

where g0 is the gravitational acceleration constant (32.2 ft/sec^2 in English units, 9.8 m/sec^2 in metric units). Now, if we substitute for the equivalent velocity in terms of the thrust:

Isp = F / (mdot * g0)

Mathematically, the Isp is a ratio of the thrust produced to the weight flow of the propellants. A quick check of the units for Isp shows that:

Isp = m/sec / m/sec^2 = sec

Now I know that a lot of folks aren't into physics, or if they are, and you still can't figure it out, our friends at NASA have a nice and easy explanation of Isp:

"Why are we interested in specific impulse? First, it gives us a quick way to determine the thrust of a rocket, if we know the weight flow rate through the nozzle. Second, it is an indication of engine efficiency. Two different rocket engines have different values of specific impulse. The engine with the higher value of specific impulse is more efficient because it produces more thrust for the same amount of propellant. Third, it simplifies our mathematical analysis of rocket thermodynamics. The units of specific impulse are the same whether we use English units or metric units. Fourth, it gives us an easy way to "size" an engine during preliminary analysis. The result of our thermodynamic analysis is a certain value of specific impulse. The rocket weight will define the required value of thrust. Dividing the thrust required by the specific impulse will tell us how much weight flow of propellants our engine must produce. This information determines the physical size of the engine. "

And from SpaceX:
"With a vacuum specific impulse of 304s, Merlin is the highest performance gas generator cycle kerosene engine ever built, exceeding the Boeing Delta II main engine, the Lockheed Atlas II main engine and on par with the Saturn V F-1.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXCD9UETbao&eurl=http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #107 on: 08/02/2008 11:51 pm »
Holding to determine Collision Avoidance with ISS and avoid radiating UFKAS during powered flight. New projected T zero is 12:55pm local.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #108 on: 08/02/2008 11:51 pm »
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #109 on: 08/02/2008 11:54 pm »
Currently 525 employees at SpaceX.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #110 on: 08/02/2008 11:54 pm »
According to the webcast, there are two more F1s to fly this year. I was only aware of one (Razaksat).

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #111 on: 08/02/2008 11:55 pm »
Liftoff is now expected at 5:55 PDT / 8:55 EDT / 00:55 UTC.

That was posted on the Space X page, under the live webcast (reiterating what collectSPACE said).
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #112 on: 08/02/2008 11:56 pm »
Still getting both audio sets merged.  Sounds like Kwaj is adjusting countdown clock.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #113 on: 08/02/2008 11:56 pm »
Holding to determine Collision Avoidance with ISS and avoid radiating UFKAS during powered flight. New projected T zero is 12:55pm local.

http://kwajrockets.blogspot.com/

SpaceX aren't saying anything, but fits with them picking up the count in four minutes.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #114 on: 08/02/2008 11:57 pm »
4 minutes to count pickup.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #115 on: 08/02/2008 11:57 pm »
93% LOX load on the first and second stage.  LOX topping shortly.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #116 on: 08/02/2008 11:58 pm »
Max Vozoff (blue shirt) is actually Senior Mission Manager/Dragon Product Manager at SpaceX - not just a talking head.  I think they are doing a great job.  Although it is a shame there isn't a press call so that there is some Q&A, not just a force feeding of information.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #117 on: 08/02/2008 11:59 pm »
Yeah, impressed by Max. Clock about to pick up the count.
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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #118 on: 08/02/2008 11:59 pm »
2 mins left in the hold.

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Re: LIVE: SpaceX Falcon I Launch III - August 2
« Reply #119 on: 08/02/2008 11:59 pm »
For raw fear, hope and adrenalien you cannot beat a SpaceX coutdown. This is my third and they all beat the rather mundane ULA/Ariane/Nasa efforts.

I'm not sure if that is a good thing, but boy it's exciting

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