Author Topic: LIVE: STS-124 Flight Day 12 - Undocking, Flyaround and Late Inspections  (Read 52651 times)

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Flight Day 12 coverage of STS-124:

Planned Flight Day 12 activities:

FD-12: Undocking, Flyaround and Late Inspections (All times EDT)
– Crew wakeup will be at 4:02 AM
– Undocking to occur at 7:42 AM
– Flyaround to start at 8:11 AM
– Final Separation Burn to occur at 9:25 AM
– Late Inspections start at 11:12 AM

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As it's still very quiet ahead of all the excitement later today I'm going to sneakily make a slightly OT post here. ;)

I noticed this mission that the interaction of Volkov and Kononenko with the American (and Japanese) crewmembers was very relaxed and easy going. Lots of smiling going on. Very good obviously. I didn't notice this at all during expedition 16 where Malenchenko always seemed to try to hide from the camera's and seemed to be busy with his own program. During expedition 15 I noticed that mainly Kotov was more like Volkov and Kononenko.

Don't get me wrong; I have a lot of respect for Malenchenko and he is one of the most professional cosmonauts around, but I have the feeling (maybe it's just a feeling) that the 'younger generation' of cosmonauts are a little bit more easy going and don't mind to have a bit of fun up there.

There's always a lot of talk about 'inspiration' on these forums where astronauts like Reisman and Anderson and all the others are mentioned as good examples for young people. I would say that the same holds for Volkov and Kononenko as opposed to Malenchenko. It's much easier to identify with Volkov and Kononenko than with Malenchenko.

Anybody else that has any thoughts on this?

Chris: If this is too OT for a flight day thread, feel free to remove.

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 a nice pic I believe taken from the Soyuz looking towards Discovery.
I'll post a hi-rez over in L2 later on.

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A couple of views before Discovery departs:

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My thoughts exactly, I noticed that yesterday during the farewell ceremony too, and was visible before. Not only were they more easy-going, but they also seemed more integrated with the American crew, participating like any other in the events.Of course, in the PAO events there are usually more questions for the Americans, but that's just natural as the media almost always calls from the US.

What I liked the most was the cross-culturality shown yesterday: Garret talking to them in Russian, and them replying in English, which I think is not special of this mission and is usually done when talking to a crewmember with another mother tongue, but was more visible during this expedition. Things like this, given enough exposure, can be very inspirating and even soften differences between cultures... imagine a Chinese joining them in this fashion :)

Professionalism like Yuri's is important, and one has to take into account different personalities, but astronauts are also public figures and should have, or try to have, people's skills and not look like they're about to run to the closest crew compartment and close the window, in my opinion.
« Last Edit: 06/11/2008 09:36 am by eeergo »
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a nice pic I believe taken from the Soyuz looking towards Discovery.
I'll post a hi-rez over in L2 later on.

Nice pic - is that Progress or Jules Verne in the foreground?

Thanks

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some interesting call signs for the crew members again in that execute package.... 

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Nice pic - is that Progress or Jules Verne in the foreground?
that would be Progress, with the Jules Verne "behind" the photographer

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Anybody else that has any thoughts on this?

Good point, but it's not an age issue, rather different psychological types. 
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The codenames for the crew in today's Execute Package Flight plan are amazing.

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Anybody else that has any thoughts on this?

Good point, but it's not an age issue, rather different psychological types. 

Agreed, but the psychological type is (at least partly) created by Malenchenko being a product of the Soviet Union and Volkov/Kononenko being a product of modern Russia.
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Undocking now less than an hour away.

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Correct orientation for undocking:

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Ken Ham's DAP has been configured for the flyaround.
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A very nice shot of Mark Kelly's hat:

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GO for Undocking!

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The Shuttle/Station complex is now heading into orbital night, just 20 minutes from undocking.

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Sergey: Station-Discovery.  I am ready for undocking!

Mark Kelly: We've got about 17 minutes, thanks for the go!  We'll see you back on Earth!

Sergey:  See you!

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S-Band Stills from Discovery's communication band, 16 minutes from undocking.
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Agreed, but the psychological type is (at least partly) created by Malenchenko being a product of the Soviet Union and Volkov/Kononenko being a product of modern Russia.

PLEAASEEE, do not attribute all characteristic of Russian people to the socio-economic systems we were brought up. Actually this was the main idea of historical materialism, one of the key philoshophical ideas during comunist time. So Spiff is a real good student of this system! ;)

There were many Soviet cosmonauts who are great fun. And there are many introverts. Nothing to do with the system.

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Agreed, but the psychological type is (at least partly) created by Malenchenko being a product of the Soviet Union and Volkov/Kononenko being a product of modern Russia.

PLEAASEEE, do not attribute all characteristic of Russian people to the socio-economic systems we were brought up. Actually this was the main idea of historical materialism, one of the key philoshophical ideas during comunist time. So Spiff is a real good student of this system! ;)

There were many Soviet cosmonauts who are great fun. And there are many introverts. Nothing to do with the system.

I apologize, I should not have drawn any comparisons between Soviet/Russian political systems and people's characters.

And now I'll shut up for undocking. ;)
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6 minutes from undocking.

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Commands being sent to initiate the opening of hooks and latches.  Good config for undocking.

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Rates look great go for Free Drift on time

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All of Discovery's thrusters are now disabled (temporarily), now in free drift.  Two minutes to go.

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Hooks and latches driving open.

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Physical separation!  Discovery is no longer docked to the ISS.
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RNDVZ and NAV aids are now enabled.

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station in attitude control

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Station is in attitude control!

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Discovery and the ISS are now passing over New Zealand:

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Goodbye, ISS (until at least November)!

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Shot of the RPOP:

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Discovery now 200 feet ahead of the ISS, moving to 400 feet ahead and then will initiate the flyaround:
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The Russian SAW's have resumed their tracking of the sun.

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Discovery was docked to PMA-2 for: 8 days, 17 hours, and 39 minutes.

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The two vehicles are 350 feet apart:

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How long till sunlight?
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How long till sunlight?

As you spoke.

Sunrise!

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The ODS's Docking Mechanism has been powered down.
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Stunning!!!

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A 1 lap, 360 degree flyaround has started!

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KU anytime now....
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This is better.  :)

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KU back!  Nice shot of ATV Jules Verne:

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What a view!
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Crossing the Argentina/Uruguay border:
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Finally got NASA TV back. Have a feeling we have audio too....but the silence seems apt given you don't need words for that view!
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You can see the ISS KU Antenna, the white dish besides the Port Radiators:
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man' its been a while after I posted something here...

glad to see the main portion of the JEM up in orbit!

oh well, time to update my model here!!!
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An empty Discovery after coming up with the bus-sized Kibo module:
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Still waiting for Discovery to emerge from behind the ISS:

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Another good'ne.

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You can also see the arrays rotating in that shot. Amazing.
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Discovery directly behind the ISS:

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Pilot Ken Ham taking Discovery and her crew to the Positive R-BAR, directly below the ISS:
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I think some new wallpapers are on the way  :)

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The Shuttle and Station are now flying 214 miles over Casablanca:
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That's a classic one - where the shuttle appears to cross the horizon

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'Ken Ham is using a steady hand at the stick, using less propellant than planned for the flyaround.'

Amazing news!
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Great view when passing over Gibraltar and over Spain.
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Dear God this is like out of a Sci Fi movie. Amazing.

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Sounds like COMM issues on someone's end...
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'Ken Ham is using a steady hand at the stick, using less propellant than planned for the flyaround.'

Amazing news!

Hehe maybe they forgot to take something with them (checks for OBSS)

haha

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Flying over northern Italy, directly below the ISS:
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Thanks for doing this, it just had to be this one time when my stream won't work :|

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We will be seeing a lot of great pictures from that camera on the ISS in the future. 
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Going off the RPOP, Ken Ham has done a great job in this flyaround!

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Starting to pass just north of the Black Sea and the Ukraine.
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One hour since the undocking of Discovery from the ISS, about 3/4ths done with this flyaround.
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SSV through Discovery's S-Band Communication line:
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Work underway to unlock the BGA (Beta Gimbal Assembly) and the Alpha Rotary Joints to allow the SAW's to track the sun.

Speaking of sun...
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Thanks for doing this, it just had to be this one time when my stream won't work :|

A lot of us lost NASA TV. That's why Steven's been a star yet again on the live coverage.
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Thanks for doing this, it just had to be this one time when my stream won't work :|

A lot of us lost NASA TV. That's why Steven's been a star yet again on the live coverage.

Thanks.  :)

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WOW WOW
The picture STS124-00893.jpg  with Discovery + Soyuz + My country will be a great wallpaper
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Getting better shots, but over-exposed..  Can't see the ISS if they shut the iris on the camera any more than what it is!

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Flyaround about 15/16ths complete.
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Flyaround complete!

Separation burns starting:

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It always annoys me that they do not show live video of the sep. burns - they are cool to watch

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Discovery will hold at the 40 NM position if she needs to make an emergency trip back to the ISS (normal on every mission).

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Passing over China and into darkness.
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20 minutes away from the Final Separation burn of Discovery, 1 hour and 18 minutes since Discovery has undocked from the ISS.

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Still amazing to think that when Space Station Freedom was originally planned, Kibo was the SHORTEST module.  Now it's the largest.
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Greg Chamitoff ringing the bells.

"Discovery departing after a successful mission, leaving behind great hope, Kibo.  The whole mission was very successful, we're sad to see you go, but we've got great pictures, and we'll see you on the ground!"


Garrett: "Taz, you can have all my un-eaten Snickers bars!"

Greg: "We found them last night and broke into them!  Thanks!"
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Approaching Queensland, Australia and the South Pacific
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Discovery and the ISS are now separated by about a mile.

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The final separation burn is now underway.

EDIT:  Good burn.
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Replays of undocking are now being shown:
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Discovery and the ISS are now 5 miles apart.

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Sunrise!
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A picture of Discovery from the ISS:

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Radiators moving and a better shot of Discovery:

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Discovery now 7 miles infront of the ISS
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I thought the solar panels were going to be feathered edge-on for undock to avoid shuttle burn contamination.  That's not the way they look in the attached pictures, why is that?

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Cameras aboard Discovery have a great view of the ISS... and Discovery needs a washing.  ;)

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A shot from the ISS looking at the Earth while Ken Ham and Karen Nyberg start working on getting the OBSS Sensor package calibrated.
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I thought the solar panels were going to be feathered edge-on for undock to avoid shuttle burn contamination.  That's not the way they look in the attached pictures, why is that?

Take a look at this section of the ISS Q&A, where Jorge gives a very good explanation to this question. There are related posts around that also help give some context:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=3207.msg202797#msg202797
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Thanks for the info, eeergo.

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Great coverage as always, gentlemen!!!!  Nice to hear the bells, as always, and I love CDR Kelly's DISCOVERY ship's ball cap (I want one!!!!).  Question, was the ISS crew in a position to take hi rez shots of DISCOVERY like the ones we saw on TV (with the earth in the background)?

ETA: Also loved the PAO's call of "weighing anchor from her port of call." Warmed my old Navy heart :)
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<----First launch of DISCOVERY, STS-41D!!!!

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We're just going to cover the Delta II launch, then I'll update the undocking article with some Late Inspection content.]

Busy day, as it should be!! :)
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Looking like they are scanning the nosecap, inspections started early?

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Looking like they are scanning the nosecap, inspections started early?
it's the starboard inspections, and looking at the timeline it's pretty much on time

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Trying to simul both GLAST and 124 Late Inspection coverage.  Nothing of issue to my eye, so far, on the L.I.'s.

Looking like they are scanning the nosecap, inspections started early?
it's the starboard inspections, and looking at the timeline it's pretty much on time

Thanks.  Thought it was early because of the smooth RCC, looked like the nose.  :)
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They're continuing the scan:
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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Here are a couple more images before I go to work:

I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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A shot from the console of what the ground is receiving during the scans:

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Now heading towards the nosecap.

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Switching between GLAST and 124 is hard work, missed all the thrusters!
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Starboard wing survey.
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1 hour and 30 minutes until the MSB.  Crew running 15 to 20 minutes ahead of their OBSS Scanning timeline.

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All looking good by my eye, but as we all know, NASA TV generally doesn't show any minor damage on screen.

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Starboard wing survey complete.
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Crew taking a short break to recalibrate sensors on the OBSS before the next scan.  Ken Ham will go get lunch while being replaced by Mike Fossum, as Karen Nyberg will do the first and second scans.

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OBSS now maneuvering to the nosecap, a nice shot of the ODS:
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My coverage will resume when the Delta II launch of GLAST Replays are uploaded:
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Over the nose and FRCS:
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They aren't hanging about with the scans...
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Good scan of the nose cap. Go to proceed.
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OBSS in view as a shadow.
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Looks like the center of the nosecap:
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Continuing the nosecap scan:
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Nosecap survey concluded!

Pilot Ken Ham is coming back to work with Ron Garan and Mike Fossum on the port side survey.  The port survey should take around 90 minutes.
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UPCOMING: Mission Status Briefung
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Great mission.... but not over yet. Undocking was flawless... really nice flyaround shots. Flyaround was absolutly perfect.
Starboard wing survey complete. Nose cap survey started 15min (?) early. Looking at the data overnight.
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"Feel very very good about the configuration of the ISS."
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Very nice comments from Abbot, about how he is so proud of the entire team, from the OPF engineers to the Flight Control teams. Flawless performance.
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More scans, this time over the post body and hatch.
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More video from the ISS of the flyaround.
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NASA TV are going to break off for GLAST replays and a Video File.


Booooooo! We demand more TPS images!! :D
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They have a lot of cameras at the Delta pad to say the least! :)
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Video from the crew, playing with the OBSS!!

"How ya doing". Playing peek a boo with the OBSS camera! ;D
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PAO didn't know what to say to that. No idea who the crewmember was, but that was hilarious. "I can seeeee youuuuu" to the OBSS :D

Just short clips, must still be downloading.
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LOL :D
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Anyone recorded it?

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ISS crew undocking video.
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Really pretty video of sunrise on the station from the orbiter just now...

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Wonderful views from Discovery of the flyaround playback.  The sunrise over the mountain range below was breathtaking.  The shadow of the shuttle wing on the solar panel (at the beginning) was very cool, also.
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I thought the solar panels were going to be feathered edge-on for undock to avoid shuttle burn contamination.  That's not the way they look in the attached pictures, why is that?

It is a balance between plume impingement, power load balance and shadowing of the array longerons (to prevent thermal buckling).  It is a VERY complicated compromise.

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As it's still very quiet ahead of all the excitement later today I'm going to sneakily make a slightly OT post here. ;)

I noticed this mission that the interaction of Volkov and Kononenko with the American (and Japanese) crewmembers was very relaxed and easy going. Lots of smiling going on. Very good obviously. I didn't notice this at all during expedition 16 where Malenchenko always seemed to try to hide from the camera's and seemed to be busy with his own program. During expedition 15 I noticed that mainly Kotov was more like Volkov and Kononenko.


It has a LOT to do with fluency.  The younger folks are much better at English.  Fyodor was very relaxed and involved in US PAO events, but Oleg was just more at ease with better English. 

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LOL :D
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Now I really hope that someone got a recording of this.  None of that footage made it into the flight day highlights package.
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"The purpose of any mission is to get a cool crew video and I think you've done very well on that"

-CAPCOM Drew

Now I really hope that someone got a recording of this.  None of that footage made it into the flight day highlights package.

Me too. It looked like it was more a personal video that was being downlinked, as PAO weren't talking over it and it was literally 10 second clips, then bluescreen, then another 10 second clip.

Hope John 44 caught it as it was hilarious.
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Updated the latest article, as the latest results on L2 show the OBSS scans on Late Inspection to be positive so far.

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No FD13 thread yet?

Also, has anyone notice that the execute package that NASA.gov have uploaded for today is from STS-122?

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As it's still very quiet ahead of all the excitement later today I'm going to sneakily make a slightly OT post here. ;)

I noticed this mission that the interaction of Volkov and Kononenko with the American (and Japanese) crewmembers was very relaxed and easy going. Lots of smiling going on. Very good obviously. I didn't notice this at all during expedition 16 where Malenchenko always seemed to try to hide from the camera's and seemed to be busy with his own program. During expedition 15 I noticed that mainly Kotov was more like Volkov and Kononenko.


It has a LOT to do with fluency.  The younger folks are much better at English.  Fyodor was very relaxed and involved in US PAO events, but Oleg was just more at ease with better English. 

Understand. Which begs the question: How fluent are the American ISS astronauts in the Russian language?
Example: I remember a PAO event during Exp 16/17 change where a Russian Journalist asked Peggy Whitson a question, and she had to look at Volkov first for some translations. Of course this could have been just to check, or, it was harder to understand over the radio, or it was an accent that she wasn't familiar with, or whatever. But I'm just wondering.
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As it's still very quiet ahead of all the excitement later today I'm going to sneakily make a slightly OT post here. ;)

I noticed this mission that the interaction of Volkov and Kononenko with the American (and Japanese) crewmembers was very relaxed and easy going. Lots of smiling going on. Very good obviously. I didn't notice this at all during expedition 16 where Malenchenko always seemed to try to hide from the camera's and seemed to be busy with his own program. During expedition 15 I noticed that mainly Kotov was more like Volkov and Kononenko.


It has a LOT to do with fluency.  The younger folks are much better at English.  Fyodor was very relaxed and involved in US PAO events, but Oleg was just more at ease with better English. 

Understand. Which begs the question: How fluent are the American ISS astronauts in the Russian language?
Example: I remember a PAO event during Exp 16/17 change where a Russian Journalist asked Peggy Whitson a question, and she had to look at Volkov first for some translations. Of course this could have been just to check, or, it was harder to understand over the radio, or it was an accent that she wasn't familiar with, or whatever. But I'm just wondering.

Peggy's Russian was very good.  I think if you look at her interviews you will see that she usually does that whether in Russian or English to sync up on an answer. Usually the language skills are passable though in an emergency or rapid speak it can be tough to follow (though there you then know key words).  Applies to both sides.

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Id like to chime in and say a few words about this forum.  I currently am an electrical tech that is assigned to the mid body of OPF Bay 3 (Discovery currently parks there).  Anyway, I have followed everyones comments for a while and actually enjoy most of it.  The negative stuff can be a bit harsh from time to time but overall all of you forum subscribers do an incredible job at keeping everyone up to speed.  So in short thanks for everyones efforts and i looked foreward to my next "chime" in session.

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@ erioladastra:
Understand. Thank you for your answers. :)
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undock and flyaround pics started getting posted this morning at the imagery site. I'll put a few here and some hi-rez over in L2.


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and from the other direction

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