LIVE: STS-124 Flight Day 7 - JLM relocation / Flight Day 8 JEM RMS deployment

[Fuji]

Kibo isn't so big now that they the racks inside it:

I think same.
By the way, these are not racks, soft covers.

[Ronsmytheiii]

Kibo isn't so big now that they the racks inside it:

I think same.
By the way, these are not racks, soft covers.

Well most, there are 12 racks inside

[leetdan]

It is unfortunate that the PAO keeps using the term “permanent home” of the JLM, rather like rubbing salt in an open wound for JAXA.

I'm not aware, how could this wording be considered insensitive?

JLP was originally supposed to transfer racks and equipment from the ground to Kibo ala the MPLM's, but now that the shuttle is ending it will stay as a kind of closet.

I see.  On that same topic (and the topic of the N2 Zenith CBM), was there ever any progress on the talks of leaving an MPLM permanently attached in the same fashion?

[Jorge]

If they end up having a problem in the future with astronauts getting "stuck" in roomy spaces I would imagine they could use a pocket can of compressed air or something like that to propel themselves. 

Has there been planning done by the program for this?

Yes, but the solution is to prevent it by simply not designing spacecraft with roomy spaces in the first place. You can't get stuck if you're never more than a few feet from structure.

[Ronsmytheiii]

I see.  On that same topic (and the topic of the N2 Zenith CBM), was there ever any progress on the talks of leaving an MPLM permanently attached in the same fashion?

hektor - 30/9/2006  1:08 PM

At some point there were plans to leave the last MPLM before retirement at the ISS... what happened to these studies ?

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This topic is on the ISS assembly or Q&A Thread

[Ford Mustang]

Shuttle/Station complex has now passed into an orbital sunset/night:

[C5C6]

If they end up having a problem in the future with astronauts getting "stuck" in roomy spaces I would imagine they could use a pocket can of compressed air or something like that to propel themselves. 

Has there been planning done by the program for this?

Yes, but the solution is to prevent it by simply not designing spacecraft with roomy spaces in the first place. You can't get stuck if you're never more than a few feet from structure.

Actually I think it's kind of impossible that they get stuck by mistake due to conservation of motion. The only way to stop in the middle of a module is with another person. Consider the FD6 games they played in the empty Kibo, they needed another person to locate them in a challenging position.....

[ckiki lwai]

Latest headline from Reuters: "Stranded in space? Japan's space lab too roomy"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080606/sc_nm/space_station_lab_dc_1

Too roomy? Are you kidding me? For Pete's sake, must they turn everything about the space program into a negative?

(Rhetorical question -- I know the answer)

they probably have never seen Skylab 
But don't be too hard on those headlines, if they wanted to be negative they would have written "x billion dollar module added to space station after delay of more than y years".
They just wanted to make it more interesting/funny.

[jmjawors]

Talk now over the loops about getting a sample of the "grease" on the port SARJ during the next EVA.

[Life_Support_32]

well personally I don't know why they even bothered to move the JLP, the zenith CBM on harmony wont be used again, and the racks inside were taken out.  The only reason I can think of is that they wanted all the Kibo components together.

There are other systems on the JLM like GPS antennas

Also, with JLP docked on Node 2, it is only receiving power.  There is no command or telemetry control of JLP.  There is no smoke detection or emergency response with it there. 

[Norm Hartnett]

I see.  On that same topic (and the topic of the N2 Zenith CBM), was there ever any progress on the talks of leaving an MPLM permanently attached in the same fashion?

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=7557.75

[Ford Mustang]

S/G 2 is private for Greg Chamitoff's Family Conference.

[Ronsmytheiii]

Just out of curiosity, where is this camera?  It looks fantastic!

[jmjawors]

Must be on P3.

[Chris Bergin]

Latest Article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5442

This is again several elements based on L2 info, rather than publishing separate short stories through the day.

However, I am created a very long article on the TPS evalautions (via four documents on L2) and the resulting LON standdown (what LON would have involved, such as emergancy shipping of ET-127).

[wjbarnett]

Latest Article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5442
... article on the TPS evalautions (via four documents on L2) and the resulting LON standdown (what LON would have involved, such as emergancy shipping of ET-127).

I came on-line late in the CDR tagup with Shuttle-MCC and thought I heard a request for additional pictures tonight of the RCC panels with the 1.4G event, rather than waiting for late inspections with OBSS. Did anyone else catch that?

[Fuji]

Latest Article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5442
... article on the TPS evalautions (via four documents on L2) and the resulting LON standdown (what LON would have involved, such as emergancy shipping of ET-127).

I came on-line late in the CDR tagup with Shuttle-MCC and thought I heard a request for additional pictures tonight of the RCC panels with the 1.4G event, rather than waiting for late inspections with OBSS. Did anyone else catch that?

Yes. RCC 15, 16 starboard by using 800mm rens.
It's detected Flight Day 3.

[Chris Bergin]

Wouldn't be worried. 1-3G might not even be an impact in the first place. I think the record is 2.7G and there wasn't any sign of it in the late inspection imagery. Put it down to due diligence on the request.

[Chris Bergin]

STS-124 crew are about an hour away from their sleep period.

[robertross]

Talk now over the loops about getting a sample of the "grease" on the port SARJ during the next EVA.

I wonder if they're just confirming it is only grease, and not combined with metal particles from the race ring, indicating premature TBA failure? Sorry if I sound like a broken record, still theorizing the SARJ 'smoking gun'.