Long pole seems to be transport to orbit.
Quote from: Norm Hartnett on 08/25/2008 03:16 pmLong pole seems to be transport to orbit. If you build it they will come. The first habitable module up will only accommodate 3 people, but by his current plan he could accommodate up to 13 people within a couple of years, if he can get it to orbit. It's been two years since Bigelow & Lockheed inked their deal. A company with their track record & abilities could do quite a bit of work in that time frame, & I think they may have something up their sleeves that we, the ignorant public, know nothing about.I don't for a second believe that the new Soviet Union are going to be the only ride in town. There are enough companies that can reliably launch good rockets besides Soyuz, they just need the market to make it profitable, & Bigelow is very close to providing that.
I have no doubt there are many potential LAUNCH options now and on the horizen - The one missing piece that I just can't seem to grasp is - What do they expect to delivery these people to orbit in??? Besides government, the only in work manned spacecraft that has potential is Dragon but that is years away. Does anyone have anything close that can provide human life support and allow for safe re-entry and landing?
Quote from: Norm Hartnett on 08/25/2008 03:16 pmI have no doubt there are many potential LAUNCH options now and on the horizen - The one missing piece that I just can't seem to grasp is - What do they expect to delivery these people to orbit in??? Besides government, the only in work manned spacecraft that has potential is Dragon but that is years away. Does anyone have anything close that can provide human life support and allow for safe re-entry and landing? I don't have time to look for it right now, but Lockheed has a PDF File out on the "interwebz" somewhere that has their plan for a manned capsule that could carry 8 passengers & crew. SpaceDev/Dreamchaser also has some kind of agreement with ULA to look at the possibility of launching with an Atlas.There are very talented companies & people working on this beside SpaceX. If Bigelow is successful in getting a working module up, somebody will be capable of getting to & from it, if not immediately, in the very near term.
SpaceX built the Dragon in secret & rolled it out after they had the first one completed.
Quote from: ChefPat on 08/30/2008 03:25 pmSpaceX built the Dragon in secret & rolled it out after they had the first one completed.SpaceX has a COMPLETE Dragon spacecraft??? That is big news! How come the NASA C3PO (COTS Program Office) has not made a big announcement? Are they waiting for the San Diego conference to announce it? Do you have any additional details?
The prototype lacks a reaction control system for maneuvering in space and a heat shield that would prevent it from burning up upon re-entry, Musk said, but could otherwise be launched into space.
This seems tailor-made for a commericialized Atlas V using imported RD-180s. Of course, someone is still going to have to come up with a recoverable live-cargo payload element...
Quote from: William Barton on 08/27/2008 01:38 pmThis seems tailor-made for a commericialized Atlas V using imported RD-180s. Of course, someone is still going to have to come up with a recoverable live-cargo payload element...RD-180s are already imported, and Atlas V started out as a commercial rocket. The first launches were run by ILS for commercial payloads.
Ah!.. thanks... if that's the unit ChefPat was referring to, it is described as a "full-scale testbed (somewhere between a mockup and an engineering test model)". That's quite different from a spacecraft that "could [...] be launched into space", though.
Hm.. Isn't "Could be launched into space" just a function of the launch vehicle?I mean... theoretically... you could launch my armchair into space if you've got a LV with enough capability, wouldn't you?