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CZ-3B Chinasat-9 - June 9, 2008 by input~2 on 08 May, 2008 15:33
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An Antonov-124 has delivered Chinasat-9 in Xichang on May 5.
On May 7, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center has informed journalists that the first window for the launch with LM-3B was June 22. "It's first task will be to transmit the Olympic Games"... -
#1 by Satori on 08 May, 2008 15:51
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input~2 - 8/5/2008 10:33 AM
An Antonov-124 has delivered Chinasat-9 in Xichang on May 5.
On May 7, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center has informed journalists that the first window for the launch with LM-3B was June 22.
"It's first task will be to transmit the Olympic Games"...
Great news!!! Thank you very much!!!!
Can you tell if there are any news about this information? -
#2 by Satori on 08 May, 2008 16:31
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Satori - 8/5/2008 10:51 AM
Quoteinput~2 - 8/5/2008 10:33 AM
An Antonov-124 has delivered Chinasat-9 in Xichang on May 5.
On May 7, the Xichang Satellite Launch Center has informed journalists that the first window for the launch with LM-3B was June 22.
"It's first task will be to transmit the Olympic Games"...
Great news!!! Thank you very much!!!!
Can you tell if there are any news about this information?
Well, answering to my own question... http://www.csat.info/
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#3 by input~2 on 20 May, 2008 11:06
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The launch is confirmed for June in today's article from China Daily (in English)
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#4 by hesidu on 21 May, 2008 23:01
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http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2008-05-22/01322209420.shtml
Report says Chinasat-9 will be launched in June 6th. -
#5 by Satori on 21 May, 2008 23:57
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hesidu - 21/5/2008 6:01 PM
http://tech.sina.com.cn/i/2008-05-22/01322209420.shtml
Report says Chinasat-9 will be launched in June 6th.
Is it possible for you to translate this article for us? We can use an automatic translator, but some times this things give sentences that doesn't make much sense. Thanks! -
#6 by input~2 on 23 May, 2008 07:15
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#7 by input~2 on 04 Jun, 2008 15:47
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Here (article in Chinese dated June 4), they say the launch is set for June 6
EDIT dated June 6, 14:11 GMT: It has to be on the 9th!! -
#8 by William Graham on 07 Jun, 2008 00:23
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Any news?
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#9 by Satori on 07 Jun, 2008 00:49
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Any news?
Well, June 6 has gone and no launch or news about it. I think we should expect any previous announcement of the launch by one of the major Chineses news source. We should pay attention to the next announced launch day, June 9. If the launch is going to take place in this day it's possible to have any news about it on June 8th.
Stay tuned
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#10 by ximig on 07 Jun, 2008 06:23
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Launch Time Confirmed!
That's June 9,12:15 GMT! -
#11 by Satori on 07 Jun, 2008 06:42
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Launch Time Confirmed!
That's June 9,12:15 GMT!
Thank you very much for that!!!
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#12 by input~2 on 07 Jun, 2008 17:25
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#13 by Satori on 07 Jun, 2008 19:09
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According to this (in Chinese), the preparations for the launch are progressing smoothly.
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#14 by Satori on 08 Jun, 2008 12:52
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From Xinhua, China to launch French built communications satellite.
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#15 by input~2 on 08 Jun, 2008 14:16
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from http://www.asiatvro.com/html/200806/Msg15967.htmQuote
“中星9号”卫星明天20:15发射升空
日期：2008-6-8 20:51:41
西昌卫星发射中心有关负责人表示，按照原定计划，如果天气等条件允许的话“中星9号”直播卫星将于6月9日20:15发射升空，目前星箭状态良好，各项准备工作进展顺利。
If weather permits, launch will be at 20:15 local time tomorrow Monday
This is Monday 12:15 GMT. So it reconfirms what was mentionned by ximig in his post above
Weather forecast for to-morrow in XiChang: chance of rain: 50% -
#16 by Chris Bergin on 09 Jun, 2008 02:14
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Keep an eye on this one guys, as Rui has an article ready to go after launch.
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#17 by William Graham on 09 Jun, 2008 06:55
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Any chance of coverage on CCTV?
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#18 by Chris Bergin on 09 Jun, 2008 10:38
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Any chance of coverage on CCTV?
Had a scout through their numberous stations, but didn't see anything off hand. If someone does link it up! -
#19 by Chris Bergin on 09 Jun, 2008 11:11
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Well their science channel is CCTV10, http://tv.cctv.com/cctv10/index.shtml but that site wants to install something into the browser's media player.
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#20 by Satori on 09 Jun, 2008 11:22
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Less than 1 hour now for launch.
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#21 by Satori on 09 Jun, 2008 11:38
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While waiting for the launch, here is the CZ-3B Chang Zheng-3B typical flight sequence (time in seconds)
Liftoff 0.000
Pitch Over 10.000
Boosters Shutdown 127.211
Boosters Separation 128.711
First Stage Shutdown 144.680
First Stage Separation 146.180
Fairing Jettisoning 215.180
Second Stage Shutdown 325.450
Second Stage Vernier Shutdown 330.450
Second Stage Separation / Third Stage First Ignition 331.450
Third Stage First Shutdown 615.677
Coast Phase Beginning 619.177
Coast Phase End / Third Stage Second Start 1258.424
Third Stage Second Shutdown / Beginning of Velocity Adjustment 1437.673
End of Velocity Adjustment 1457.673
Satellite Separation 1537.676 -
#22 by Satori on 09 Jun, 2008 11:43
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Current weather at XiChang (1140UTC) - (from http://www.accuweather.com)
Humidity 38 % Cloud Cover 53 %
Visibility 25 km Max Temp. 31 °C
Dewpoint 14 °C Min Temp. 18 °C
Ceiling 1,585.0 m Departure 11 °C
Apparent Temp. 30 °C High Past 6 Hrs. 31 °C
Wind Chill 30 °C Low Past 6 Hrs. 28 °C
Wind Speed 4 km/h Precip Past 3 Hrs. 0.0 mm
Wind Direction S Precip Past 6 Hrs. 0.0 mm
Wind Gusts 8 km/h Precip Past 24 Hrs. 2.0 mm
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#23 by Satori on 09 Jun, 2008 11:46
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30 minutes for launch (assuming weather permitting)...
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#24 by input~2 on 09 Jun, 2008 11:49
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Well their science channel is CCTV10, http://tv.cctv.com/cctv10/index.shtml but that site wants to install something into the browser's media player.
At 20:00 local time, a science documentary is planned on CCTV10, not the launch
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#25 by William Graham on 09 Jun, 2008 12:14
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Launch should have occurred.
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#26 by input~2 on 09 Jun, 2008 12:19
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At 19:46:12 local, xinhua news agency said that "China was ready to launch..Both the satellite and carrier were in good conditions, and the weather was suitable for satellite launching,"
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#27 by William Graham on 09 Jun, 2008 12:28
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Assuming launch was on time, we should be in the coast phase now. We probably won't hear anything until after S/C sep.
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#28 by Liss on 09 Jun, 2008 12:40
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Seems to be launched: http://news.xinhuanet.com/newscenter/2008-06/09/content_8334469.htm
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#29 by William Graham on 09 Jun, 2008 12:40
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Separation should have occurred, assuming an on time and successful launch took place. We should know soon.
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#30 by hesidu on 09 Jun, 2008 12:41
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According to www.Chinanews.com, Chinasat-9 was launched around 20:00 local time.
http://estate.chinanews.com.cn/gn/news/2008/06-09/1276296.shtml -
#31 by William Graham on 09 Jun, 2008 12:45
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#32 by Chris Bergin on 09 Jun, 2008 12:52
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And in that case, Rui's article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5444 -
#33 by input~2 on 09 Jun, 2008 13:03
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And in that case, Rui's article:
Ref the article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5444QuoteZhongXing-9 was built by Alcatel Alenia (formerly Alcatel Space)
Alcatel Alenia Space has been Thales Alenia Space for a year now.QuoteThose in the area of coverage will receive up to 200 standard-definition and high-definition channels using small antennas 0.45 to 0.60 meters long.
It would be interesting to mention that prior to the launch it has been recalled by Chinese authority that "individuals are not allowed to install and use satellite ground receiving facility". Community TVRO setups must be approved by the relevant administrative department of the State Council. -
#34 by input~2 on 09 Jun, 2008 13:50
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#35 by Chris Bergin on 09 Jun, 2008 15:20
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Thank you input, I made the change to the article.
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#36 by Satori on 10 Jun, 2008 01:50
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Images of the ZhongXing-9 launch from Xinhua news agency...
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#37 by Satori on 10 Jun, 2008 11:27
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#38 by input~2 on 10 Jun, 2008 16:33
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the video of the launch is available here.
FYI the first link shows the video OK with Internet Explorer, but no video appears using Firefox (at least on my setup..)
The same video with english commentaries in here.
Concerning the second link I think it should rather be:
mms://winmedia.cctv.com/NewsHour/2008/06/NewsHour_300_20080610_2.wmv
(without http://, but the [url] tag seems to impose http://)
however it seems broken at this time. -
#39 by Satori on 10 Jun, 2008 19:39
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the video of the launch is available here.
FYI the first link shows the video OK with Internet Explorer, but no video appears using Firefox (at least on my setup..)
The same video with english commentaries in here.
Concerning the second link I think it should rather be:
mms://winmedia.cctv.com/NewsHour/2008/06/NewsHour_300_20080610_2.wmv
(without http://, but the [url] tag seems to impose http://)
however it seems broken at this time
CCTV changed the link and now its corrected... at least until they change ir again... -
#40 by input~2 on 10 Jun, 2008 20:12
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Obrigado Rui!
This link for the English version you have mentionned, seems to be OK:
http://vsearch.cctv.com/english/play_cctv.jsp?ref=CCTVCOM_20080610_3091047
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#41 by input~2 on 11 Jun, 2008 14:47
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The Xi'An satellite monitoring center reported that the satellite was separated in the following orbit:
214km x 49887km x 24.2°
The general manager of China Satcom, Mr. Rui XiaoWu, said that the expected lifetime of the satellite could be up to 17 years.
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#42 by input~2 on 11 Jun, 2008 22:18
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#43 by Satori on 11 Jun, 2008 22:23
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That's what I call... a close call!!!
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#44 by input~2 on 11 Jun, 2008 22:55
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A 200kg piece of wreckage (one of the 4 main engines) caused this 2m-deep hole in a ricefield!
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#45 by eeergo on 11 Jun, 2008 23:14
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Wow! This was from this thread's launch, right? How was it different to previous launches from XiChang? Or does this happen every launch and we just don't get to hear it?
Not the way to handle a launch...
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#46 by input~2 on 12 Jun, 2008 05:53
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Yes this came from Chinasat-9 launch.
Here are some views from the recovery of this engine:
source
It is the same scenario for every launch from XiChang. A procedure has been put in place since a few years now:
Prior to the launch, 160 000 people living in the first stage drop zone (over 700 km²) are evacuated. More than 60 "observation stations" are set up to ensure rapid recovery of the spent stage.
Since this procedure has been put in place there has been "15 successful recovery operations" and there has been "no casualty and property loss has been reduced to a minimum".
We have to realize that each satellite rocket launch, everywhere in the world, means an analog drop of garbage on the ground or on the oceanfloor, plus in some cases a final stage left in orbit. At least in China they collect the garbage on the ground! -
#47 by Mighty-T on 12 Jun, 2008 07:43
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This is particularly threatening since the lower stages and boosters of the Long March use UDMH/NTO as propellants. There might be highly toxic remnants still in the tanks. You don't want to find this in your front yard...
Also, does anyone have a clue why this booster stage in the first pic is so deteriorated and burned? I remember the Ariane 4 stages remained pretty intact once they hit the ground. -
#48 by eeergo on 12 Jun, 2008 09:50
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16 million people evacuated, every time there is a launch from XiChang? That seems like an awful lot of resources needed to support every launch, it's almost half the population of my country!
I'm no environmental expert, but I think it may be preferable for the stages to drop in the ocean, given the toxic propellants that may remain in the stage will disperse more rapidly and in sparsely populated areas. The metallic components are largely inert (except maybe for the electronics) and don't pose much of a garbage problem once they sink. Of course, launching from the middle of China doesn't offer you this chance, so other creative alternatives have to be found. -
#49 by input~2 on 12 Jun, 2008 10:22
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16 million people evacuated, every time there is a launch from XiChang? That seems like an awful lot of resources needed to support every launch, it's almost half the population of my country!
Sorry for a third party incorrect translation, the right translation for 16万余人 is 16x104 which is 160 000 people, not 16 millions. It actually corresponds to 11 towns and townships. I have corrected my original post. -
#50 by input~2 on 14 Jun, 2008 11:27
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The engine pictures and emergency evacuation scenario described above refer to one of the LM-3B first stage/main engines drop ranges located some 820 km ESE from Xichang, near Suining in Hunan province.
The 4 boosters are dropped earlier in a zone located in Eastern Guizhou, some 650 km ESE from Xichang. There, over 100 000 people are evacuated prior to launch, just in one of several potential booster drop ranges. -
#51 by input~2 on 14 Jun, 2008 13:46
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The fairing falls in a third zone, some 1310 km ESE from Xichang.
See the Chang'e thread for more on this.
Finally the second stage falls in the Pacific, some 600 km SE from Taiwan. -
#52 by Liss on 26 Jun, 2008 07:52
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Chinasat 9 has arrived to her spot at 92.2E.
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#53 by input~2 on 21 Jan, 2014 20:04
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The 3rd stage (2008-082B/33052) re-entered January 16 at 2007UTC over 24E 36W (Red Sea), descending, inclined 23.8 degrees (source: USSTRATCOM)
Re-entry was spotted from Saudi Arabia
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/ufo-over-arabia-its-just-flash-chinese-space-junk-2D11950307
Not the way to handle a launch...