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2063 A.D.
« on: 04/30/2008 03:56 PM »
A visit to the past for a look into the future.
http://www.lulu.com/content/2277078
(Original link: http://www.paleofuture.com/2008/04/2063-ad-book-1963.html)

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Re: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #1 on: 04/30/2008 08:11 PM »
To expand:

The booklet 2063 A.D. was published by General Dynamics Astronautics, and placed into a time capsule in July of 1963. It is believed that only 200 copies were ever printed. The 50 page book contains predictions by scientists, politicians, astronauts and military commanders about the state of space exploration in the year 2063. This edition is a reprint made from scans of the original 1963 book.

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Re: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #2 on: 04/30/2008 08:44 PM »
What a hoot!  Fusion by 1977!  Nuclear rockets!  100,000 people living on the Moon!

Oddly enough, Lyndon Johnson appears to have written the most accurate (so far) prediction.

I noticed that no one predicted that General Dynamics Kearny Mesa would be long-gone, leaving the time capsule buried in a shopping mall parking lot, or something like it, by 2060!

 - Ed Kyle

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #3 on: 04/30/2008 08:50 PM »
More apt for Historical.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #4 on: 04/30/2008 08:56 PM »
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James Lowe1 - 30/4/2008  1:50 PM
More apt for Historical.

My thought immediately after posting it.

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I noticed that no one predicted that General Dynamics Kearny Mesa would be long-gone, leaving the time capsule buried in a shopping mall parking lot, or something like it, by 2060!

To be dug up by foraging Morlocks centuries later.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #5 on: 04/30/2008 09:15 PM »
Great find!

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Re: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #6 on: 04/30/2008 09:37 PM »
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What a hoot!  Fusion by 1977!  Nuclear rockets!  100,000 people living on the Moon!

 - Ed Kyle

But inventing the Whipple shield makes me want to cut him a lot of slack.

I have a copy of NASA SP-413, a space settlements book published out of Ames in 1977.  It is one of the unintentionally funniest documents I've ever read.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #7 on: 04/30/2008 09:39 PM »
Edward Teller has a nuclear hammer and everything looks like a nail.  :laugh:

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Re: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #8 on: 04/30/2008 09:42 PM »
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What a hoot!  Fusion by 1977!  Nuclear rockets!  100,000 people living on the Moon!

Oddly enough, Lyndon Johnson appears to have written the most accurate (so far) prediction.

I noticed that no one predicted that General Dynamics Kearny Mesa would be long-gone, leaving the time capsule buried in a shopping mall parking lot, or something like it, by 2060!

 - Ed Kyle

The way things are going in California, many old shopping malls are now being bulldozed and replaced with condos/apartment complexes.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #9 on: 04/30/2008 09:59 PM »
For what it's worth, A.D. stands for "anno Domini" which means "the year of our Lord".

It should be written A.D. 2063 not 2063 A.D.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #10 on: 05/01/2008 03:21 PM »
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For what it's worth, A.D. stands for "anno Domini" which means "the year of our Lord".

It should be written A.D. 2063 not 2063 A.D.

Anno Domini is sooo 16th century.  Proper usage these days is C.E. (common era), so 2063 C.E.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #11 on: 05/01/2008 04:48 PM »
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For what it's worth, A.D. stands for "anno Domini" which means "the year of our Lord".

It should be written A.D. 2063 not 2063 A.D.

Anno Domini is sooo 16th century.  Proper usage these days is C.E. (common era), so 2063 C.E.

I can't stand the B.C.E/C.E. designations, which still refer to the Anno Domini calender system in common use since the 8th Century.  The C.E. calender is clearly still a "Christian" calender clumsily trying to hide its "Christianity".  

A.D. for me, and not for religious reasons.  A.D. means C.E., but A.D. is easier to remember!

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Re: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #12 on: 05/01/2008 05:49 PM »
Same to me edkyle99. Common era is such a bad name anyway.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #13 on: 05/01/2008 06:10 PM »
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For what it's worth, A.D. stands for "anno Domini" which means "the year of our Lord".

It should be written A.D. 2063 not 2063 A.D.

Anno Domini is sooo 16th century.  Proper usage these days is C.E. (common era), so 2063 C.E.

Mark me down for the 16th century then.  I like AD and 99% of people use it.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #14 on: 05/01/2008 06:29 PM »
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For what it's worth, A.D. stands for "anno Domini" which means "the year of our Lord".

It should be written A.D. 2063 not 2063 A.D.

Anno Domini is sooo 16th century.  Proper usage these days is C.E. (common era), so 2063 C.E.

A.D. is still proper usage even these days and A.D. 2063 proper form. It is still used by most people and there has been no offical change of any kind. C.E. is used in some circles by those who do not want to be reminded of the fact that the year is based on the aproximate time of the Birth of Jesus Christ.

It is not just 16th century but 20th and 21st as well. In fact I had never encountered the term C.E. or common era untill the 1990's and it's only been last few years that I have seen a signifcant usege of it.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #15 on: 05/01/2008 06:35 PM »
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I can't stand the B.C.E/C.E. designations, which still refer to the Anno Domini calender system in common use since the 8th Century.  The C.E. calender is clearly still a "Christian" calender clumsily trying to hide its "Christianity".  

Actualy it's some non-christians trying to hide Christianity of the calender. Most Christians use and prefer A.D. because it comemorates the birth of Jesus Christ, even if it is off by a few years.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #16 on: 05/01/2008 06:49 PM »
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Actualy it's some non-christians trying to hide Christianity of the calender. Most Christians use and prefer A.D. because it comemorates the birth of Jesus Christ, even if it is off by a few years.

You're correct that most Christians prefer AD/BC.  CE/BCE has come into common use due to the fact that most of the world has adopted the Gregorian calendar for secondary use, if not their primary calendar.   Obviously, Anno domini - "the year of our lord", doesn't easily roll off the tongue of a Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or agnostic person.  This is why it's used so much in the scientific and scholarly worlds - it's universal.  

This being an international site makes it appropriate here.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #17 on: 05/01/2008 07:15 PM »
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Actualy it's some non-christians trying to hide Christianity of the calender. Most Christians use and prefer A.D. because it comemorates the birth of Jesus Christ, even if it is off by a few years.

You're correct that most Christians prefer AD/BC.  CE/BCE has come into common use due to the fact that most of the world has adopted the Gregorian calendar for secondary use, if not their primary calendar.   Obviously, Anno domini - "the year of our lord", doesn't easily roll off the tongue of a Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or agnostic person.  This is why it's used so much in the scientific and scholarly worlds - it's universal.  

This being an international site makes it appropriate here.

If you want to use C.E. and B.C.E. fine. I know you really mean A.D. and B.C.  :)

What is most inportant is that we each know what the other means. In each case we are refering to the same date so when comes right down to it, they are both acceptable.

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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #18 on: 05/01/2008 07:33 PM »
CE was originally created to provide an easy way to make time-calculations across the BC/AD line. BCE is a more recent invention.

1+ CE and 1+ AD are equal.

But 1 BC equals 0 CE, 2 BC equals -1 CE, etc.


It was only when non-scientists got a hold of CE did BCE get invented.
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RE: 2063 A.D.
« Reply #19 on: 05/01/2008 07:38 PM »
But back to the original post.....
It's sure worth a snoop around the Paleofuture site- real nostalgic.
Just makes me want to kick back, put on some Donald Fagan music (IGY, etc.), sip some "Champale" and practice Esperanto...... :)

This was the future I expected- and sadly, the future I trained for.

How many remember those "Closer Than We Think" strips in the Sunday comics?  I used to clip and save those- probably still have a stack crumbling in the attic.

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