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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #40 on: 07/31/2008 02:51 PM »
Is there any about Persona?

No... :'(
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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #41 on: 07/31/2008 05:34 PM »
Satcomuk, don't worry so much, this AW article is LOL! :)

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The 15-ton Cosmos 2441 spacecraft was launched from Pad 4 of Plesetsk Launch Complex 34 on board a Soyuz 2B booster at 2:31 p.m. EDT July 26.

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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #42 on: 07/31/2008 05:52 PM »
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The 15-ton Cosmos 2441 spacecraft was launched from Pad 4 of Plesetsk Launch Complex 34 on board a Soyuz 2B booster at 2:31 p.m. EDT July 26.

Launch Complex 34 does not exist, it is complex 43. It was a type error in Novosti Kosmonavtiki, and AW just repeated it ! Not very serious...
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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #43 on: 07/31/2008 06:00 PM »
Resurs-DK1 have several documents on the net, by Federal Space Agency. Is there any about Persona?

So we can clarify...

You can find many work-done-reports in runet using "14Ф137" instead "Персона". :)
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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #44 on: 07/31/2008 08:02 PM »
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Launch Complex 34 does not exist, it is complex 43. It was a type error in Novosti Kosmonavtiki, and AW just repeated it ! Not very serious...

Anyone can find 5-6 errors in this AW article. :)
Cosmos 2411 - it's Glonass, Akron  - it's Arkon, etc.
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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #45 on: 08/01/2008 10:04 AM »
The satellite shown in this illustration might be more fitting than the Resurs-P shown on servaral sites:

http://www.kbarsenal.ru/im/foto/f/Nuk1.jpg

(from http://www.kbarsenal.ru/nuklon.php )

Unfortunately, the spacecraft is not named on this site.



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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #46 on: 08/01/2008 11:12 AM »
Ted Molczan has now confirmed that the orbit has been circularised , putting it out at over 700km and well out of range of casual
observers :(

So it looks like we are not going to get a second chance .

Having played around with colour values etc , here's my final take on the object , with the artists impression reflecting the attitude as seen on orbit.

John

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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #47 on: 08/01/2008 01:33 PM »
The satellite shown in this illustration might be more fitting than the Resurs-P shown on servaral sites:

http://www.kbarsenal.ru/im/foto/f/Nuk1.jpg

(from http://www.kbarsenal.ru/nuklon.php )

Unfortunately, the spacecraft is not named on this site.
This is not Persona
Perhaps this is Liana ELINT satellite (KB Arsenal)
for comparison Tselina-2


TsSKB Progress is known to be makes the service module


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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #48 on: 08/01/2008 02:11 PM »
Yes, you are right - this is likely the Liana spacecraft.


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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #49 on: 08/02/2008 12:34 PM »
As Persona has generated so much interest I have created a new page
at    http://satcom.website.orange.co.uk/  ( Persona tag )
Which  hopefully I can add to as more details become available.

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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #50 on: 08/02/2008 04:59 PM »
The satellite shown in this illustration might be more fitting than the Resurs-P shown on servaral sites:

http://www.kbarsenal.ru/im/foto/f/Nuk1.jpg

(from http://www.kbarsenal.ru/nuklon.php )

Unfortunately, the spacecraft is not named on this site.
This is not Persona
Perhaps this is Liana ELINT satellite (KB Arsenal)
for comparison Tselina-2


TsSKB Progress is known to be makes the service module


I don't think that is Liana ELINT satellite. A sat created for sea electronic reconnaissance, as Liana is, should have large antennas to get information from different frequency ranges. The sat, shown in the picture, has slight ones. ::)   

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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #53 on: 08/07/2008 03:57 PM »
Having played around with colour values etc , here's my final take on the object , with the artists impression reflecting the attitude as seen on orbit.
I think he was somewhat larger. A bit of indirect information

Publication in the journal «Vestnik of Samara State University»
A.L. Luks, A.G. Matveev
HIGH-EFFICIENT AMMONIAC HEAT-PIPES WITHIN ENERGY-EFFICIENT SYSTEMS FOR TEMPERATURE CONTROL OF LARGE DIMENSION CONSTRUCTIONS OF SPACECRAFT
In the paper an experimental study that is carried out according to agreement with FGUP GNP RKTs ”TsSKB-PROGRESS” is presented. This test program includes operational-development and resource tests and is carried out for high-efficient heat-pipes, which utilize light type AS-KPA 7,5-R1-120/0, TU 550.1-02070921.007-03 of aluminum alloy AD31 of Russian standard GOST 4784-74 and GOST-22233-93 of alloys 6060, 6061, 6063 of US standard AMS 4116. Thermal and physical characteristics of heat-pipes (temperature field, temperature difference, heat conduction and temperature lag) for different types, sizes and configurations (rectilinear and curvilinear) as base element of systems for temperature control of large dimension constructions of spacecraft (radiators and refrigerants, telescope module) are discussed.
http://vestnik.ssu.samara.ru/est/2007web6/vsys/2007560601.pdf

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...The result was the creation of the heat-pipes  various sizes and configurations with optimum thermal, mass and dimensions characteristics, methods of their design, their manufacturing technology, technique and testing programme, operating on pilot products "Persona."

...Based on the results of research and development, provides practical advice production and the creation of new improved characteristics of designs heat-pipes as the basic structures of large constructions telescope (up to 6 meters  tall  and 2 meters or more in diameter), radiators-coolers (up to 3 meters)
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Kosmos-2441 fails
« Reply #54 on: 02/11/2009 01:24 PM »
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Re: Kosmos-2441 fails
« Reply #55 on: 02/12/2009 12:30 PM »
Spacecraft has failed:
http://www.rg.ru/2009/02/11/sputnik.html
Failure in electronic components. Russia will not have a high definition spy satellite for a few more years.

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Re: First Soyuz-2.1b launch from Plesetsk
« Reply #57 on: 09/23/2014 03:42 PM »
I now have many high resolution pictures for this launch.

http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lancements/2008/26072008/26072008photos.html
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