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#560
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DaveS
on 18 Sep, 2008 03:12
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I'm positive there will be a dual RSS retraction, whether it's needed or not. This is the last time two shuttles will be on the pad at the same time, so NASA will treat us. Somehow.
I'm sorry but there won't be any more opportunities. In order to make the current launch dates, the RSS is needed for servicing and vehicle access. For example, they can't start STS-400 hyper loading preps unless the RSS is in the MATE position. And that is a critical activity.
Atlantis on the other hand needs the 39A RSS to support payload ops which currently run until just days before the launch!
So no more RSS retracts, even for the sake of PR. The only times we're going to see RSS retracts, is when the procedures require it(launch, rollbacks etc).
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#561
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2008 08:19
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#562
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 18 Sep, 2008 16:12
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#563
by
grafgulch
on 18 Sep, 2008 17:07
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I was hoping the launch doesn't get postponed. If it gets push to the 11th I will miss it. I been reading different stories about this, Some say the Launch stay at Oct 10th.. some say the 11th. Only time will tell, but its not looking good.
Paul
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#564
by
psloss
on 18 Sep, 2008 17:39
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I'm positive there will be a dual RSS retraction, whether it's needed or not. This is the last time two shuttles will be on the pad at the same time, so NASA will treat us. Somehow.
What DaveS said, but just to amplify, NASA has never done this for a photo op. The only time it happened that I'm aware of was when one shuttle (STS-41) was rolled out after an RSS retract for a launch attempt for the other shuttle (STS-35) -- that's mostly why all the footage and pictures of it were from a helicopter, as the pad area was either cleared or being cleared for tanking. It was sort of serendipitous in that case and would be in this case, too. (Although in this case, I'm hoping folks like Ben will get to go out and take a lot of pictures.)
Edit -- heh, I'm being told/shown that it happened at least one other time. Determined that the other occasion was STS-68 and STS-64 on 19 August 1994 with 64 rolling out the night of the 68 RSLS abort.
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#565
by
glanmor05
on 18 Sep, 2008 17:42
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Processing latest (White Room issue and Payload) with another update to come via L2 processing for Thursday due in later this morning.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5517
Anybody know yet if:
1. Payload moves today?
2. Endeavour rolls today?
3. Might see some pictures (daylight would be good) with both RSSs (is that the correct plural?) back?
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#566
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2008 18:03
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Just catching up for the "night shift" of Endeavour rollout. The launch date is tight to say the least, as they won't be getting the payload to the pad today, and it looks like late tomorrow/Saturday right now.
They'll likely evaluate the flow when the payload actually gets to the pad.
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#567
by
cb6785
on 18 Sep, 2008 18:37
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What exactly is this pad-cam showing? Temperatures....but of what?
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#568
by
Chris Bergin
on 18 Sep, 2008 18:40
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Ok, at the moment, it looks like payload to Pad early Saturday. No official change to the launch date yet.
Both RSS' (39A and 39B) classed as open at the same time between 7am and 9am Saturday morning - that may also update.
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#569
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 18 Sep, 2008 18:49
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What exactly is this pad-cam showing? Temperatures....but of what?
Maybe it is the new thermal camera installed to monitor debris on launch?
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#570
by
cb6785
on 18 Sep, 2008 19:00
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What exactly is this pad-cam showing? Temperatures....but of what?
Maybe it is the new thermal camera installed to monitor debris on launch?
Yeah I thought of the debris monitoring presentation with the new cameras too.... Just hard to tell what it's aiming at...
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#571
by
DaveS
on 18 Sep, 2008 19:12
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Seems to be a thermal view from camera OTV-072 on the MLP. The top most object is the bracket for the -Y OWP extending from the FSS. Center-most object is one of the rainbirds on the MLP. Left most object is the left-hand TSM. If you look closely you can make out the sound suppression water system pipes for the left-hand SRB.
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#572
by
psloss
on 18 Sep, 2008 19:50
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Seems to be a thermal view from camera OTV-072 on the MLP. The top most object is the bracket for the -Y OWP extending from the FSS. Center-most object is one of the rainbirds on the MLP. Left most object is the left-hand TSM. If you look closely you can make out the sound suppression water system pipes for the left-hand SRB.
FWIW, attached a time-lapse of different camera feeds on that "channel" from this morning/afternoon local time...couple of screengrabs from Pad B, including OTV 101...
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#573
by
cb6785
on 18 Sep, 2008 20:17
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Seems to be a thermal view from camera OTV-072 on the MLP. The top most object is the bracket for the -Y OWP extending from the FSS. Center-most object is one of the rainbirds on the MLP. Left most object is the left-hand TSM. If you look closely you can make out the sound suppression water system pipes for the left-hand SRB.
FWIW, attached a time-lapse of different camera feeds on that "channel" from this morning/afternoon local time...couple of screengrabs from Pad B, including OTV 101...
Thanks you guys
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#574
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 18 Sep, 2008 21:02
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Canister entering the PHSF:
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#575
by
Sith
on 18 Sep, 2008 21:44
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The future place of Hubble is in a museum. But that's never going to happen, bacause of budget
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#576
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 18 Sep, 2008 22:24
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The future place of Hubble is in a museum. But that's never going to happen, bacause of budget 
More due to the schedule, safety, and the fact that any mission to simply return it would be a major waste. Keep Hubble going for as long as we can.
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#577
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 19 Sep, 2008 00:47
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View inside the White room:
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#578
by
dsmillman
on 19 Sep, 2008 01:23
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#579
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 19 Sep, 2008 02:24
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The shuttle status at:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html
mentions a Flight Readiness Review on Oct. 2 and 3. Is this the program FRR or is the agency FRR? If this is not the program FRR when is the program FRR?
First note I've seen about this. Given that it's scheduled for two days, it would seem to indicate the SSP FRR. However, they could op to combine the SSP and SOMD (angency) FRRs. They've done this in the past.