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#540
by
psloss
on 15 Sep, 2008 13:00
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Is this the "what could be delayed crew training" you're referring to Chris?
Likely more than just TCDT and maybe not including it. The impact on "pad ops" is much less than areas of work based out of JSC.
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#541
by
iamlucky13
on 15 Sep, 2008 21:29
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FYI, the Boston Globe put together an excellent series of 23 pictures from the STS-125 processing and related preparations. I thoroughly enjoyed these..
Aren't those NASA.gov images? Nice images, but we've seen them before I'm sure. The good factor is a potentially new audience.
Sorry, forgot about this thread for a bit...yes they're all NASA images to the best of my knowledge. I figure it's a well-condensed selection of the hundreds of STS-125 images so far to share with family and friends who have a lighter interest in space.
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#542
by
glanmor05
on 16 Sep, 2008 16:48
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Any payload update?
Last projection was, in canister 16th, out to the pad 19th.
Also (I asked this before but it got lost), is the payload not "normally" out at the pad before the vehicle? If so, why is this time different?
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#543
by
DaveS
on 16 Sep, 2008 17:14
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The canister is in the PHSF airlock right now. Guess the payloads are going into the canister later today. Then it will be sent to the CRF for rotation to vertical before it is sent to Pad A.
Keep an eye on the Pad A RSS as it will be rotated to the PARK position before the canister heads to the pad.
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#544
by
psloss
on 16 Sep, 2008 18:38
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(In the PR trivia dept., I guess this might make for a hypothetical photo op with both shuttles on the pad with the RSS retracted on the 18th, depending on the timing of the 400 rollout to Pad B and the canister arrival at the pad...and the weather...)
FWIW, Orlando Sentinel reporting there's a chance for this photo op:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/09/space-shuttle-h.htmlGiven that this is the final service mission to Hubble, it is the last time that there will be two shuttles on the launch pads at the same time. In fact, according to NASA's prime shuttle contractor, United Space Alliance, the only and the last time there will be an unobstructed view of two space shuttles on two launch pads will be between 4 PM Thursday and 8 AM on FRIDAY. (We will try to get a picture!)
(Continuing with the trivia, this wouldn't be the only time; the STS-35 and STS-41 vehicles "appeared" this way in early September, 1990...pictures of that are posted here in old threads.)
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#545
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 16 Sep, 2008 20:19
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(In the PR trivia dept., I guess this might make for a hypothetical photo op with both shuttles on the pad with the RSS retracted on the 18th, depending on the timing of the 400 rollout to Pad B and the canister arrival at the pad...and the weather...)
FWIW, Orlando Sentinel reporting there's a chance for this photo op:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2008/09/space-shuttle-h.html
Given that this is the final service mission to Hubble, it is the last time that there will be two shuttles on the launch pads at the same time. In fact, according to NASA's prime shuttle contractor, United Space Alliance, the only and the last time there will be an unobstructed view of two space shuttles on two launch pads will be between 4 PM Thursday and 8 AM on FRIDAY. (We will try to get a picture!)
(Continuing with the trivia, this wouldn't be the only time; the STS-35 and STS-41 vehicles "appeared" this way in early September, 1990...pictures of that are posted here in old threads.)
Ok... I'm kind of getting lost with this. STS-400/126 rollout to Pad-B is scheduled to begin September 18 at 12:01am. Assuming an ontime start (which we've seen with recent rollouts when they actually do roll) that would put Endeavour at the pad around 7:00am with the RSS moved to the "MATE" position in the early afternoon.
Now, STS-125 payload to pad is scheduled for the early morning hours of September 19 with the RSS moved to the "park" position just before the payload canister starts rolling. So, wouldn't they wait to roll Atlantis' RSS to the "park" position until just before the payload canister leaves the rotation facility rather than moving the RSS to "park" hours before the payload canister is even scheduled to leave for the pad?
The timing here to give us a photo op is off to me by several hours and I don't think NASA is in the business of tweaking processing schedules just to get a photo op of the Orbiters.
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#546
by
psloss
on 16 Sep, 2008 20:35
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Ok... I'm kind of getting lost with this. STS-400/126 rollout to Pad-B is scheduled to begin September 18 at 12:01am. Assuming an ontime start (which we've seen with recent rollouts when they actually do roll) that would put Endeavour at the pad around 7:00am with the RSS moved to the "MATE" position in the early afternoon.
Double posting from L2; they changed out an APU on Endeavour during the OPF flow, so a pad hot fire is likely necessary. That might explain the timing.
(Still depends on weather and remaining work cooperating...)
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#547
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 17 Sep, 2008 12:37
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#548
by
psloss
on 17 Sep, 2008 17:24
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Nice shot on the MLP deck; unusual to see at this stage of a pad flow.
Edit: adding a few other screengrabs from earlier in the day during a swing through some OTV cameras...
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#549
by
DaveS
on 17 Sep, 2008 19:07
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Canister now leaving the PHSF bound for the CRF where it will be rotated to vertical.
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#550
by
DaveS
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:03
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WTH?! They forgot the SLIC! Or was it just the FSS that they loaded into that cansiter?
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#551
by
collectSPACE
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:07
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Payload rollout is delayed by at least 24 hours.
Florida Today:
Loose Insulation May Slip Atlantis LaunchPlans to transport the payload to the pad late Thursday are being held up because engineers and technicians discovered that insulation around new telescope batteries came loose and got caught up in a protective bagging inside a cargo bay carrier.
The carrier was removed from the canister that will transport it to the pad so the loose insulation can be cleaned up.
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#552
by
glanmor05
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:18
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WTH?! They forgot the SLIC! Or was it just the FSS that they loaded into that cansiter??
What's happening here? "Forgot" something or cleaning up insulation...
Is this (as reported) likely to have a direct (hour for hour) impact on launch date?
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#553
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:22
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Payload is the critical item for the pad flow, but wait for us to get engineering notes on status. All I have so far is a short note from USA saying "not expected to hit schedule" - but that's not much use either. Let me get hold of the lowdown.
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#554
by
collectSPACE
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:25
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Earlier this afternoon, 'shuttle_guy' on Space.com's
forums cited "hallway talk" as suggesting:
A contamination incident occurred this morning on the SLIC payload - Super Lightweight Interchangeable Carrier. The carrier holds Hubble’s newest camera, the 980 lb Wide Field Camera 3 and two new batteries. A GSE line came loose from the a non flight enclosure that provided high pressure purge air to the Hubble batteries - the pressure in the line then impinged on TCS blankets and foam that secures the batteries causing particles to be introduced into the SLIC containment bag. This will delay the delivery of the payload to the pad at least 48 hours – and likely longer once they determine the extent of the contamination.
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#555
by
DavisSTS
on 17 Sep, 2008 21:55
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A contamination incident occurred this morning on the SLIC payload - Super Lightweight Interchangeable Carrier. The carrier holds Hubble’s newest camera, the 980 lb Wide Field Camera 3 and two new batteries. A GSE line came loose from the a non flight enclosure that provided high pressure purge air to the Hubble batteries - the pressure in the line then impinged on TCS blankets and foam that secures the batteries causing particles to be introduced into the SLIC containment bag. This will delay the delivery of the payload to the pad at least 48 hours – and likely longer once they determine the extent of the contamination.
48 hours? That'd be really stressing the launch date?
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#556
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 Sep, 2008 22:05
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Officially, can stlll make the 10/10 launch on current assessment. There was concern of a slip, but that is now retracted from officials.
And we don't know it'll be "48 hours" until the morning report - which is always best for knowing where things officially stand.
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#557
by
psloss
on 17 Sep, 2008 22:17
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#558
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 18 Sep, 2008 02:29
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Officially, can stlll make the 10/10 launch on current assessment. There was concern of a slip, but that is now retracted from officials.
And we don't know it'll be "48 hours" until the morning report - which is always best for knowing where things officially stand.
Well, it also means we wont get the dual RSS retraction I was so hoping for....
My sentiments here:
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#559
by
Ford Mustang
on 18 Sep, 2008 02:51
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Officially, can stlll make the 10/10 launch on current assessment. There was concern of a slip, but that is now retracted from officials.
And we don't know it'll be "48 hours" until the morning report - which is always best for knowing where things officially stand.
Well, it also means we wont get the dual RSS retraction I was so hoping for....
My sentiments here:
I'm positive there will be a dual RSS retraction, whether it's needed or not. This is the last time two shuttles will be on the pad at the same time, so NASA will treat us. Somehow.
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