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#100
by
Ray Todd
on 25 Jun, 2008 22:47
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Chris, they would not move the launch of 125 to the left with this news, correct?
Correct sir.
They've just got out of having to delay. Every day they save with the shipping date moving left is used to aid some contingency days in the flow. It's still tight.
Eats his own words. Looks like the launch date is going to change.
It is a suprise and under evaluation ahead of a decision in July. Going to write up the L2 info and make it into an article.
All depends on how much more the MAF guys can lose out of the flows in New Orleans at get the tanks to KSC.
Do we know what the new date is?
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#101
by
Chris Bergin
on 26 Jun, 2008 02:08
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Chris, they would not move the launch of 125 to the left with this news, correct?
Correct sir.
They've just got out of having to delay. Every day they save with the shipping date moving left is used to aid some contingency days in the flow. It's still tight.
Eats his own words. Looks like the launch date is going to change.
It is a suprise and under evaluation ahead of a decision in July. Going to write up the L2 info and make it into an article.
All depends on how much more the MAF guys can lose out of the flows in New Orleans at get the tanks to KSC.
Do we know what the new date is?
(I'll answer this seen as it was addressed to me
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They are aiming for the start of the month at best. Decision in July. Writing up the article now.
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#102
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Chris Bergin
on 26 Jun, 2008 04:24
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#103
by
Orbiter
on 26 Jun, 2008 09:46
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October 2nd for a New Launch Date?
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#104
by
Chris Bergin
on 26 Jun, 2008 13:15
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October 2nd for a New Launch Date?
No, that is the absolute earilest they could aim for. A realistic target is two to three days earlier, with the two tanks to decide - as all stated in the article.
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#105
by
ShuttleDiscovery
on 26 Jun, 2008 18:22
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As part of NASAs 50th celebrations this year, wouldn't it be nice for Atlantis to sport the 50th logo (or a simplified version like the one below) on her port wing?
Would be nice, but they appear to have done all they intend to with the "re-painting" of her flags.
Yes. The only reason why the orbiters got a repaint in the first place was because Dan Goldin didn't like the NASA worm logo.
I think means that they've already re-painted the flags and logos ready STS-125..
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#106
by
psloss
on 26 Jun, 2008 21:14
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#107
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Jun, 2008 12:49
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STS-125: Planning continues with scheduled EVA-6 option - By Chris Gebhardt.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5460Will likely have a dedicated thread for the articles, as we're projecting we'll have 50 written pre-launch. (I've got another one coming at the weekend).
For now, this rediculously long URL will take you to 125 articles:
LINK
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#108
by
Analyst
on 27 Jun, 2008 13:08
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Good article, although the documentation is quite old.
I still fear "nice to have" but not critical TPS inspections, "just to be sure" will interfare with and limit the actual mission, which is HST.
One question: Could an on time launch improve cryo margins to 12+2 and take some pressure from the EVA timeline?
Analyst
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#109
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cb6785
on 27 Jun, 2008 15:00
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I guess option one isn't possible because of the time needed for LON...?
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#110
by
Analyst
on 27 Jun, 2008 15:09
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I don't see the connection.
Analyst
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#111
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cb6785
on 27 Jun, 2008 15:16
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If they don't get the TPS inspection data on FD2 but on FD9 or 10....how much time would they have to get Endeavour up if serious damage would be detected? Would there be enough time remaining until Atlantis runs out of cryo and stuff?
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#112
by
Flightstar
on 27 Jun, 2008 15:38
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If they don't get the TPS inspection data on FD2 but on FD9 or 10....how much time would they have to get Endeavour up if serious damage would be detected? Would there be enough time remaining until Atlantis runs out of cryo and stuff?
Lots of ifs, so I'm not sure how it's a question, but there's Endeavour on the pad for LON so it's not an issue. An orbiter could "lifeboat" for a month at a very big stretch. Irrelevant in this scenario.
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#113
by
cb6785
on 27 Jun, 2008 15:40
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Thanks! Couldn't find the max time as a "lifeboat".
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#114
by
AndrewSTS
on 27 Jun, 2008 21:42
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STS-125: Planning continues with scheduled EVA-6 option - By Chris Gebhardt.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5460
Will likely have a dedicated thread for the articles, as we're projecting we'll have 50 written pre-launch. (I've got another one coming at the weekend).
For now, this rediculously long URL will take you to 125 articles:
LINK
Another good article and not from the normal Chris. Chris MkII is a good writer too, is he a member of the forum?
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#115
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 27 Jun, 2008 21:53
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If they don't get the TPS inspection data on FD2 but on FD9 or 10....how much time would they have to get Endeavour up if serious damage would be detected? Would there be enough time remaining until Atlantis runs out of cryo and stuff?
Well, as stated in the artcle, it's unlikely that TPS inspections will be traded for HST mission objectives. Afterall, crew safety is paramount as is TPS health determination. This artcile is largely based off information from last year and I haven't seen anything since then on L2 that the consideration of altering the TPS inspection plan went any further than the "Well-we-could-do-this" phase of early, early mission planning.
Furthermore, keep in mind that all the FWAG and mission planning documents we've seen for STS-400 have it launching just a few days after STS-125 in the event of a TPS emergency. That would lend evidence that the initial TPS inspections on FD-2 (and finishing up on FD-3 if necessary) will NOT be altered in anyway to make room for an early rendezvous with HST.
Of course, just because we haven't seen anything on L2 doesn't necessarily mean that conversations within the MOD and senior NASA management aren't ongoing on this subject.
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#116
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 27 Jun, 2008 21:55
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STS-125: Planning continues with scheduled EVA-6 option - By Chris Gebhardt.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5460
Will likely have a dedicated thread for the articles, as we're projecting we'll have 50 written pre-launch. (I've got another one coming at the weekend).
For now, this rediculously long URL will take you to 125 articles:
LINK
Another good article and not from the normal Chris. Chris MkII is a good writer too, is he a member of the forum?
Yes, he is.
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#117
by
Chris Bergin
on 29 Jun, 2008 05:24
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We've got about 10 article's worth of content into L2 over the last 24 hours or so, but rather than spreading them out one per day, I'm aiming to create big round ups, such as this one that's just gone on:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5461 (brings you up to date on processing etc.)
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#118
by
faustod
on 29 Jun, 2008 16:41
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I don't understand why the MPL-1 boosters stack will be switched from VAB HB1 to HB3.
I think that the stacking for STS-400 (126) could be performed in HB3.
Am I wrong?
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#119
by
DeanHFox
on 30 Jun, 2008 00:43
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In the event that a major hurricane were to threaten KSC while both pads are occupied with their various shuttles...what is the minimum time required for NASA to evacuate the shuttles back to the VAB to ride out the storm?
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