LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 8 - Columbus outfitting, EVA-3 prep

• LIVE: STS-122 Flight Day 8 - Columbus outfitting, EVA-3 prep by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 08:41
• Flight Day 8 coverage of STS-122.
  
  First post to be updated as and when needed.
  
  Timing of different events today can be found in the first image added below
  
  Rules:
  Only relevant updates should go in here.
  Only 2 snapshots per post.
  
  Executive package: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/211961main_fd08_exec_pkg.pdf

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• #1 by marshallsplace on 14 Feb, 2008 08:56
• Peggy is going to make an inspection tool for the handrail that could be contributing to the damaged EVA gloves (PAO).
• #2 by Wisi on 14 Feb, 2008 09:18
• ISS Flight Director Update is in progress.
  
  Says Columbus is up and running, no mention of computer problems
• #3 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 09:20
• He showed the inspection tool for the handrail, but I was to late to take a snapshot (I was playing NTV in windows media player)
  It looked like a stick with a sock around it, they probably going to look what damage the handrail will do to the sock.
  
  EDIT: found an image of it in the executive package

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• #4 by uko on 14 Feb, 2008 09:25
• "It looked like a stick with a sock around it".. what is this.. space age or stone age?
  
• #5 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 09:36
• Oberpfaffenhofen is proud to say they solved the problems overnight.
  In a couple of minutes they are going to activate the cameras in Columbus!
  
  Executive package has much more info about the Swatch.
  It's a stick with an overglove around it and sock in it.
• #6 by Wisi on 14 Feb, 2008 10:15
• Is that Columbus or Node 2?

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• #7 by Chandonn on 14 Feb, 2008 10:16
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  Wisi - 14/2/2008  6:15 AM
  
  Is that Columbus or Node 2?

  
  Node 2.  You can see PMA-2 in the background.
• #8 by marshallsplace on 14 Feb, 2008 10:17
• Node 2 - you can see PMA to the shuttle at the end. Columbus is on the starboard (right) at the end.
• #9 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 11:04
• Always a beautiful sight when they pass over Northern Africa

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• #10 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 11:33
• Hans and Leo outfitting the Columbus module

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• #11 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 11:47
• Peggy is going to install a camera in Harmony pointing to Columbus for the PAO event of today.
  She is also going to remove the tape that is dimming the camera in Columbus (see snapshot above)
• #12 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 11:52
• A better view inside Columbus, Leo working on the laptops.

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• #13 by marshallsplace on 14 Feb, 2008 11:53
• Columbus  

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• #14 by PaulyFirmbiz on 14 Feb, 2008 11:58
• so great to finally see columbus's juices flowin and everything starting to take shape.  is that the biolab rack to the rite of leo? it really looks quite spacy inside the module. just think what the Kibo PM is going to look like once its on orbit.. they could probably play orbital football in that module lol..
• #15 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:06
• Hans Schlegel in Columbus

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• #16 by eeergo on 14 Feb, 2008 12:07
• Just FYI, today's execute package is here: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/211961main_fd08_exec_pkg.pdf
  Interesting notes:
  
  -Today is Dump Day. There are several waste dumps scheduled.
  -After doing the assigned tasks of tomorrow's EVA, they're going to perform a detailed inspection of the impact in Quest's handrail, as chiki_lwai has reported a few posts above. The thing wrapped around the stick is not a sock , it's a glove, to see how the different materials on it behave when touching the impact.
  -Also a SARJ inspection, basically to look under the remaining covers yet to be removed, and inspect a divot/debris buildup (they still don't know which one)
  
  I attach the detailed timelines and some images of the SARJ inspection procedures.

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• #17 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:09
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  eeergo - 14/2/2008  2:07 PM
  -After doing the assigned tasks of tomorrow's EVA, they're going to perform a detailed inspection of the impact in Quest's handrail, as chiki_lwai has reported a few posts above. The thing wrapped around the stick is not a sock , it's a glove, to see how the different materials on it behave when touching the impact.
  

  
  The sock is inside the glove to give it more volume
• #18 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:32
• Hans working on the biolab?
  Looks like he is going to prepare diner  :bleh:

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• #19 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:37
• Peggy installing a hand rail and Melvin with an ESA flag in his hands

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• #20 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:38
• Melvin brought the French and German flag in too.

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• #21 by marshallsplace on 14 Feb, 2008 12:45
• Found this pdf on esa's web site - page 8 shows a picture of Columbus'  Biolab and the Fluid Science Laboratory (FSL) next to the biolab.
  
  http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/columbus/brochure/ESA_Brochure_Exploring_with_Columbus.pdf
• #22 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:52
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  marshallsplace - 14/2/2008  2:45 PM
  
  Found this pdf on esa's web site - page 8 shows a picture of Columbus'  Biolab and the Fluid Science Laboratory (FSL) next to the biolab.
  
  http://esamultimedia.esa.int/docs/columbus/brochure/ESA_Brochure_Exploring_with_Columbus.pdf

  
  Thanks, so I was right in one of my earlier posts that Hans was working on the biolab
  
  In the picture below A is the biolab, B is the fluid science lab

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• #23 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 12:56

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• #24 by PaulyFirmbiz on 14 Feb, 2008 13:04
• Biolab is the rack that has the mini glove box on it.. I hear its one of the most advanced science racks on station. looking forward to seeing what kind of science comes down from that rack
• #25 by Jim on 14 Feb, 2008 13:26
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  PaulyFirmbiz - 14/2/2008  9:04 AM
  
  Biolab is the rack that has the mini glove box on it.. I hear its one of the most advanced science racks on station. looking forward to seeing what kind of science comes down from that rack

  
  Just curious, how is "most advanced" measured against.   The precursor to Biolab was Biorack.
  
  Both are somewhat similar:   glove boxes with environmentally controlled incubators, coolers and freezers capable of holding small centrifuges.
• #26 by PaulyFirmbiz on 14 Feb, 2008 13:32
• i forgot what artical i read it in but i breifly remember the ESA scientist that did the interview stating that biolab was one of the most advanced racks on station.. im lookin for the link now i belive it was a BBC interview
• #27 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:38
• Here is the link to a webcast with a conference that introduces the talk with Merkel http://www.dlr.de/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-968/1355_read-11013/
  The conference is in German but is dubbed in English
• #28 by 8900 on 14 Feb, 2008 13:39
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  Jim - 14/2/2008  9:26 PM
  
  

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  PaulyFirmbiz - 14/2/2008  9:04 AM
  
  Biolab is the rack that has the mini glove box on it.. I hear its one of the most advanced science racks on station. looking forward to seeing what kind of science comes down from that rack

  
  Just curious, how is "most advanced" measured against.   The precursor to Biolab was Biorack.
  
  Both are somewhat similar:   glove boxes with environmentally controlled incubators, coolers and freezers capable of holding small centrifuges.

  
  Can the small centrifuges replace the function of the canceled big centrifuge in CAM?
• #29 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:43
• Walheim showing the swatch

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• #30 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:46
• Thomas Reither, former ESA astronaut who is going to participate in the talk between Hans and the German chancellor Merkel.
  
  Merkel has now also arrived at the conference

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• #31 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:53
• Angela Merkel

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• #32 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:57

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• #33 by Jim on 14 Feb, 2008 13:57
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  8900 - 14/2/2008  9:39 AM
  
  

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  Jim - 14/2/2008  9:26 PM
  
  

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  PaulyFirmbiz - 14/2/2008  9:04 AM
  
  Biolab is the rack that has the mini glove box on it.. I hear its one of the most advanced science racks on station. looking forward to seeing what kind of science comes down from that rack

  
  Just curious, how is "most advanced" measured against.   The precursor to Biolab was Biorack.
  
  Both are somewhat similar:   glove boxes with environmentally controlled incubators, coolers and freezers capable of holding small centrifuges.

  
  Can the small centrifuges replace the function of the canceled big centrifuge in CAM?

  
  no, because they can't hold larger organisms
• #34 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 13:59
• Even Merkel asks how Hans feels!!
  
  Both stress how important Columbus is, and how proud they are about it.
• #35 by jacqmans on 14 Feb, 2008 14:01
• Reiter did not introduce Tani.... his reaction was fun...
  
• #36 by jacqmans on 14 Feb, 2008 14:03
• Nice for world viewers that this is in German...LOL   But Hans likes it up there, and calls Earth the mother space ship...
• #37 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 14:03
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  jacqmans - 14/2/2008  4:01 PM
  
  Reiter did not introduce Tani.... his reaction was fun...
  

  
  I missed that, what did he say?
• #38 by ShuttleDiscovery on 14 Feb, 2008 14:04
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  ckiki lwai - 14/2/2008  3:03 PM
  
  

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  jacqmans - 14/2/2008  4:01 PM
  
  Reiter did not introduce Tani.... his reaction was fun...
  

  
  I missed that, what did he say?

  
  Nothing, just looked amused and waved at the camera hoping they'd realise...
• #39 by ShuttleDiscovery on 14 Feb, 2008 14:05
• Reiter introduced him now (apologising!)
• #40 by hopper on 14 Feb, 2008 14:06
• Thomas forgot him but corrected his mistake.
• #41 by jacqmans on 14 Feb, 2008 14:16
• Yuri has to take good care of ATV when it arrives :-)
  
• #42 by pippin on 14 Feb, 2008 14:41
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  jacqmans - 14/2/2008  4:03 PM
  
  Nice for world viewers that this is in German...LOL  

  Last time Merkel talked to ISS (when Reiter was up ther, I believe), she teased Bush (who was with her at the event) by talking to all astros in their mother tongue - English, Russian and German ;-)
• #43 by tdrb6115 on 14 Feb, 2008 14:56
• She also started the PAO with "dobry den" among other greetings, that's in Czech, quite surprising for me ...
• #44 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 15:16
• Another PAO event, now talking with NBC news

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• #45 by pippin on 14 Feb, 2008 15:22
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  tdrb6115 - 14/2/2008  4:56 PM
  
  She also started the PAO with "dobry den" among other greetings, that's in Czech, quite surprising for me ...

  Wouldn't that be the same in Russian?
  
  Welcome to the site :-)
• #46 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 15:31
• PAO event over, now back to outfitting Columbus

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• #47 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 15:34
• Flying over Cuba now

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• #48 by tdrb6115 on 14 Feb, 2008 15:38
• Sorry for offtopic, but when you ask: In Russion it is something like "Zdrastvui te" so completely different. I thing she missed the greeting in Russian anyway.
• #49 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 15:50
• Pointdexter enjoying his off duty time?

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• #50 by Adama on 14 Feb, 2008 15:50
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  tdrb6115 - 14/2/2008  6:38 PM
  
  Sorry for offtopic, but when you ask: In Russion it is something like "Zdrastvui te" so completely different. I thing she missed the greeting in Russian anyway.

  
  I'm not an expert in Russian, but this caught my eye, so...
  
  Dobryi den is what you say during the day.
  Dobroe utro in the morning.
  Dobryi vetcher in the evening.
  
  Zdrastvuite is a general polite greeting that can be used at all times.
  Zdrastvui is used when talking to a friend whom with you don't need to use to polite (plural) form.
  When talking to a group of people one should say zdrastvuite, as saying zdrastvui then would be impolite (like picking a single person from a group to greet, ignoring the others). Other option is to say zdrastvui to each person, with a name, like "Zdrastvui, Yuri".
  
  
  Bozhe moi... I hope I got those right...  :bleh:
• #51 by mwfair on 14 Feb, 2008 16:06
• 'Privyet' is more commonly used for 'hi', or the friend form of hello. 'Zdrastvuite' is used quite often, especially when talking to an individual, a store clerk would be a good example, or a colleague.   'Zdrastvui' is rare in my experience, though I'm not Russian so am without hope of ever mastering the language.  'Kak dela' is 'what's up', although I doubt the ground controller are that informal with ISS.
  
• #52 by tdrb6115 on 14 Feb, 2008 16:08
• You must be an expert ;-) I think you've got it right, but it jsut sounded quite like when German tries to speek Czech. Finished with this offtop.
• #53 by catfry on 14 Feb, 2008 16:58
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  ckiki lwai - 13/2/2008  5:50 PM
  
  Pointdexter enjoying his off duty time?

  
  I guess I could come up with a few silly captions to those two screen caps
• #54 by Riley1066 on 14 Feb, 2008 17:40
• MCC Munich's "Capcoms" are Norbert and Peter ... are there any others that we just haven't heard from yet? maybe the "Orbit Three Capcom"?
• #55 by James Lowe1 on 14 Feb, 2008 18:01
• Remember this is a live event thread. Let's keep an eye on events on orbit right now and nothing else.
• #56 by jmjawors on 14 Feb, 2008 18:02
• Flight Director's briefing starting now.
• #57 by stockman on 14 Feb, 2008 18:24
• Finally.. Marcia Dunn is over her "sick astronaut" fetish... no questions on any health issues from her.
• #58 by uko on 14 Feb, 2008 18:49
• Pentagon briefing about shooting down sattellites on NASA TV.. thats a first for me
  
• #59 by Chris Bergin on 14 Feb, 2008 19:08
• http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5357 - First half relates to the latest MMT content (via L2) on FD08.
• #60 by ApolloLee on 14 Feb, 2008 19:13
• "Atlantis' mission is proceeding without issue, with the only problem being worked by the Mission Evaluation Room (MER) in Houston relating to an overexposed video that was downloaded from the middeck - an issue that would normally go without a mention, had it not been for the lack of any other problems."
  
  Video is doomed.
• #61 by Riley1066 on 14 Feb, 2008 19:36
• Looks like that rack is stubborn!
• #62 by Lawntonlookirs on 14 Feb, 2008 19:39
• Did you see the camera shake when the were trying to get it loose.
• #63 by Lawntonlookirs on 14 Feb, 2008 19:40
• Finaly got the floor panel loose.  They need a days rest after that.
• #64 by rdale on 14 Feb, 2008 19:40
• This is a replay from yesterday...
• #65 by Riley1066 on 14 Feb, 2008 19:42
• Doesn't mean the rack was any less stubborn ... hehehe
• #66 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:03
• "MCC Munich's "Capcoms" are Norbert and Peter ... are there any others that we just haven't heard from yet? maybe the "Orbit Three Capcom"?"
  
  yes there are a number more - you will hear them in the stage.
• #67 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:05
• "-Also a SARJ inspection, basically to look under the remaining covers yet to be removed, and inspect a divot/debris buildup (they still don't know which one) "
  
  Odds are we won't get this item.
• #68 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:07
• "Peggy is going to make an inspection tool for the handrail that could be contributing to the damaged EVA gloves (PAO)."
  
  No, Stan or Rex will.
• #69 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:08
• "Says Columbus is up and running, no mention of computer problems"
  
  Yes, the C&C swap I mentioned yesterday fixed the problem.
• #70 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:09
• "Oberpfaffenhofen is proud to say they solved the problems overnight. "
  
  Someone is confused - Col-CC did not fix it as it was not theirs.  It was NASA's C&C.  Swapped.  Fixed.
• #71 by erioladastra on 14 Feb, 2008 20:09
• "She is also going to remove the tape that is dimming the camera in Columbus "
  
  No tape - just the settings on the camera.
• #72 by catfry on 14 Feb, 2008 20:10
• Ha! What happened at the end of the dpc? Did Leeland and Peggy start a wrestling match?
• #73 by marshallsplace on 14 Feb, 2008 20:33
• erioladastra - 14/2/2008
  
  
  Thank you for correcting this thead with the right info.  
• #74 by ckiki lwai on 14 Feb, 2008 20:48
• yep thanks erioladastra
• #75 by azreddog on 14 Feb, 2008 20:52
• Guess these guys never heard of BACK FOCUS
• #76 by eeergo on 14 Feb, 2008 20:56

• Columbus' cameras seem to be behaving now after the troubleshooting Another new view inside the station for us to enjoy!

  They have a pinkish tone, however... bad color calibration.

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• #77 by JohnV on 14 Feb, 2008 21:04
• Maybe they are different types of lights than in the US/Russian sections?  Some types of 'full spectrum' lights seem to have a pink-ish tone to their light.
• #78 by eeergo on 14 Feb, 2008 21:08

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  JohnV - 14/2/2008 11:04 PM Maybe they are different types of lights than in the US/Russian sections? Some types of 'full spectrum' lights seem to have a pink-ish tone to their light.

  No, I think it's a camera issue. The cameras in Harmony looking into Columbus show the same clear white tone that is present in Destiny and Harmony itself.

• #79 by azreddog on 14 Feb, 2008 21:11
• The cameras need to be WHITE BALANCED. Which blends the three primary colors (chips)to correctly represent white. In different lighting situations.
• #80 by eeergo on 14 Feb, 2008 21:44

• Dan looming in the corner :laugh:

  (the commentator said he was making an IP call, he isn't just bored )

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• #81 by nsf-rt on 14 Feb, 2008 23:16
• I just saw a bright object near to the station getting brighter (closer?), before they switched cameras.
  A reflection off a cable?

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• #82 by spacebudget on 14 Feb, 2008 23:29
• This morning, right after the ESA PAO event, between about 10:25 and 10:30 am EST, and just after sunset, NASA TV had an outside view of the station, same view as on page 4 of this thread, but just after dark.  I saw something that looked like a fabric cover of some sort float between the station toward the shuttle.  It starts near center low, and floats up and left.  It goes out of sight just as the CAPCOM jokes to Peggy about getting the flags out again.  I managed to get the last few second on my DVD recorder, but have no way of sharing it.  Does anyone else see that, or have the video archived?
  
  Oops! Said page 3 of thread, meant page 4.
• #83 by TrueBlueWitt on 14 Feb, 2008 23:50
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  nsf-rt - 14/2/2008  7:16 PM
  
  I just saw a bright object near to the station getting brighter (closer?), before they switched cameras.
  A reflection off a cable?

  
  Looks like probably seeing the tip of one of the Solar arrays against the black of space.. sun reflection can change due to orbit or array rotation.  but that's just my speculation
• #84 by nsf-rt on 15 Feb, 2008 00:39
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  TrueBlueWitt - 14/2/2008  6:50 PM
  
  

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  nsf-rt - 14/2/2008  7:16 PM
  
  I just saw a bright object near to the station getting brighter (closer?), before they switched cameras.
  A reflection off a cable?

  
  Looks like probably seeing the tip of one of the Solar arrays against the black of space.. sun reflection can change due to orbit or array rotation.  but that's just my speculation

  
  It is still there now, it must be part of the station.
• #85 by Jason Davies on 15 Feb, 2008 03:22
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  nsf-rt - 14/2/2008  7:39 PM
  
  

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  TrueBlueWitt - 14/2/2008  6:50 PM
  
  

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  nsf-rt - 14/2/2008  7:16 PM
  
  I just saw a bright object near to the station getting brighter (closer?), before they switched cameras.
  A reflection off a cable?

  
  Looks like probably seeing the tip of one of the Solar arrays against the black of space.. sun reflection can change due to orbit or array rotation.  but that's just my speculation

  
  It is still there now, it must be part of the station.

  
  Yeah, it can be very deceptive. The last 'floating stuff' seen was during the flyaround after STS-117 or STS-118, but that ended up being small particles catching the lens, I believe.
• #86 by shaula1247 on 15 Feb, 2008 07:40
• Just been watching the highlights replay and a cuple of pieces of trivia occurred to me.
  
  First up, Columbus is first ¨dead end"attached to the station, it is the only space with only a single access point, seems significant somehow as an indication of progress towards completion.
  
  Second is the evidence of adaption to microgravity over time.  During the PAO event the long term residents were quite still where the blow-ins bobbing around probably in time with with respiration.   Thats an interesting adaption, to achieve automatic compensation to keep the head still in the absence of the normal cues.
  
  Well, I liked it anyway.  
• #87 by Hans_ACS on 15 Feb, 2008 08:04
• Maybe this is asked already, but when they remove panels covering the instruments on Columbus, what do they do with them ? I guess you can't throw these out of the window