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#60
by
zappafrank
on 08 Feb, 2008 14:33
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Easiest way to remember, port has 4 letters, so does left.
You will never forget it.
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#61
by
Felix
on 08 Feb, 2008 14:39
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#62
by
Felix
on 08 Feb, 2008 14:41
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#63
by
Felix
on 08 Feb, 2008 14:44
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#64
by
Felix
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:18
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Btw ISS coming over Europe momentarily
Shtuttle Airlock
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#65
by
Felix
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:19
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#66
by
kimmern123
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:22
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stan - 8/2/2008 4:21 PM
At the risk of thread drift..
Starboard derives from the days of double-ended ships before rudders were hung on the centerline. I believe it came into the Engish language through the danish and norsk invaders. The steering oar used to be hung from the aft, "steerboard" side. The other side, the larboard side, was usually the side of the ship that was placed against the wharf. If I remember correctly from my merchant shipping days, the Norwegians still use the term "larboard".
This is a bit off topic but anyway

. We don't say "larboard" in Norway, but it's not that far from the actual word. Port is called "babord" and starboard is "styrbord" (directly translated, steerboard)
Okay, now back to the TPS-inspections
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#67
by
stan
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:44
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Thanks for the correction. It has been 37 years since I spent a summer working on a Norwegian freighter, and I have forgotten almost all the Norwegian I learned back then.
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#68
by
ApolloLee
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:46
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OK.... I'm issuing a challenge... How can they make TPS-Inspections more exciting?
I vote for painting random bingo numbers throughout the spacecraft so we can all play TPS inspection bingo at home...
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#69
by
pippin
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:53
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ApolloLee - 8/2/2008 5:46 PM
OK.... I'm issuing a challenge... How can they make TPS-Inspections more exciting?
I vote for painting random bingo numbers throughout the spacecraft so we can all play TPS inspection bingo at home...
They DO. Haven't you found them?
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#70
by
psloss
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:54
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ApolloLee - 8/2/2008 11:46 AM
OK.... I'm issuing a challenge... How can they make TPS-Inspections more exciting?
I vote for painting random bingo numbers throughout the spacecraft so we can all play TPS inspection bingo at home...
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
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#71
by
nathan.moeller
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:56
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psloss - 8/2/2008 10:54 AM
ApolloLee - 8/2/2008 11:46 AM
OK.... I'm issuing a challenge... How can they make TPS-Inspections more exciting?
I vote for painting random bingo numbers throughout the spacecraft so we can all play TPS inspection bingo at home...
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
I could be way off base but I can't help but think he was kidding
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#72
by
ApolloLee
on 08 Feb, 2008 15:59
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psloss - 8/2/2008 8:54 AM
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
Understood..... just trying to break the monotony.... I'm certainly not really suggesting they turn a vital part of the mission into an excuse for bingo....
Though if they want to use the tiles to have people answer trivia questions that start with certain letters like "Blockbusters," that's fine with me.....
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#73
by
elmarko
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:13
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Some people need to lighten up
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#74
by
psloss
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:15
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ApolloLee - 8/2/2008 11:59 AM
psloss - 8/2/2008 8:54 AM
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
Understood..... just trying to break the monotony....
Understood as well...but also understand that several parts of the shuttle missions are very monotonous. Monotonous doesn't have to mean boring -- though I'm sure it is boring to many people (I doubt they'd spend a lot of time on this site). The inspections may not be continuously engaging, either, but that doesn't mean I'm disinterested.
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#75
by
Mark Nguyen
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:20
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Funny, I was told that when a ship was at port, you'd better see the stars from the other side of the boat than the side where you had to deal with all the lights of the city. Hence, starboard...
Mark
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#76
by
Oli4
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:27
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Lets end this discussion

Port and starboard
Port and starboard are shipboard terms for left and right, respectively. Confusing those two could cause a ship wreck. In Old England, the starboard was the steering paddle or rudder, and ships were always steered from the right side on the back of the vessel. Larboard referred to the left side, the side on which the ship was loaded. So how did larboard become port? Shouted over the noise of the wind and the waves, larboard and starboard sounded too much alike. The word port means the opening in the "left" side of the ship from which cargo was unloaded. Sailors eventually started using the term to refer to that side of the ship. Use of the term "port" was officially adopted by the U.S. Navy by General Order, 18 February 1846.
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#77
by
Analyst
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:29
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psloss - 8/2/2008 5:54 PM
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
Isn't the whole return to the moon thing mostly because "going around in circles" is so boring?

The public needs something exiting: be it a gapfiller, some foam falling, a solar array blanket repair or the first lunar landing after Apollo. They will turn away the second time. You eigher accept space missions - manned or unmanned - can be boring, or you jump from one target to another just to keep the public exited (and the big tax payer money coming). I vote for the first option. Going around in LEO is not boring at all, at least not more boring than the 20th lunar surface EVA or the fifth lunar landing. But this is just me.
Analyst
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#78
by
Chris Bergin
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:39
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There's always a number of ROIs (Regions Of Interest) from an OBSS Survey, but so far we're hearing they've really not seen anything of real interest so far...so that's good.
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#79
by
William Barton
on 08 Feb, 2008 16:40
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Analyst - 8/2/2008 12:29 PM
psloss - 8/2/2008 5:54 PM
It's a necessary part of the mission. Why does it have to be exciting?
Isn't the whole return to the moon thing mostly because "going around in circles" is so boring? 
The public needs something exiting: be it a gapfiller, some foam falling, a solar array blanket repair or the first lunar landing after Apollo. They will turn away the second time. You eigher accept space missions - manned or unmanned - can be boring, or you jump from one target to another just to keep the public exited (and the big tax payer money coming). I vote for the first option. Going around in LEO is not boring at all, at least not more boring than the 20th lunar surface EVA or the fifth lunar landing. But this is just me.
Analyst
That's sounds rational, but unless your secret identity is Bill Gates, that big taxpayer money has to be justified to the big taxpayer, whose got a lot of hands in his pocket.