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#40 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:15
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#41 by psloss on 08 Feb, 2008 13:20
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Is that stage left and stage right?QuoteFord Mustang - 8/2/2008 2:01 PM
[small]Not too good with all that port and starboard speak. Someone can fill me in later.
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Port is left and starboard is right.
That's what always screws me up...
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#42 by jbirdav8r on 08 Feb, 2008 13:24
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QuoteChris Bergin - 8/2/2008 9:04 AM
Is that stage left and stage right?QuoteFord Mustang - 8/2/2008 2:01 PM
[small]Not too good with all that port and starboard speak. Someone can fill me in later.[/small]
Port is left and starboard is right. That's what always screws me up...
Say you're looking at the Orbiter on the pad from the front--starboard is the right side of the vehicle and port is the left. -
#43 by Celebrimbor on 08 Feb, 2008 13:30
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Surely, its with reference to direction of travel in combination with the clear definition of nadir and zenith. So with head pointing zenith and going forwards, port is left.
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#44 by haywoodfloyd on 08 Feb, 2008 13:30
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Port and Left have the same number of letters.
You can also use that for the green and red lights on vehicles...remember Red Port Wine.
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#45 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:39
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#46 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:44
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#47 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:44
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#48 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:48
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#49 by ntschke on 08 Feb, 2008 13:52
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Quotemarktowler - 8/2/2008 2:10 PM This method should help to memory which side is port or starboard. "Port" and "left" are 4 letters words. Otherwise it is starboard. Hope this will help to remind
For a bit of history - Port is left because the port drink is PASSED to the left at dinner. The port light is red because port is red. Port replaced larboard on sailing ships because larboard and starboard where too easy to confuse. OK, but the crew can't drink booze...so they'll have NO clue where they're going. Call the BBC Chris, tell them THIS is the story they've been waiting for..."Without alcohol, shuttle/ISS crews doomed"
BTW, I believe I found the RMS-related checklist (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/flightdatafiles/index.html) under STS-122 mission specific files. I did fine a generic one on here as well but not sure what the difference is.
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#50 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:57
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#51 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 13:59
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#52 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 14:02
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#53 by Felix on 08 Feb, 2008 14:05
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#54 by Chris Bergin on 08 Feb, 2008 14:08
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About 40 minutes left on the Starboard Wing Survey. Looks very clean, but as we say on each mission - what we see on the screen is not exactly what they get on the ground, but you'd likely see something obvious.
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#55 by pippin on 08 Feb, 2008 14:08
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Didn't we have this cultural thingy half a year ago ;-) ?OK, but the crew can't drink booze...so they'll have NO clue where they're going. Call the BBC Chris, tell them THIS is the story they've been waiting for..."Without alcohol, shuttle/ISS crews doomed"
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#56 by Jim on 08 Feb, 2008 14:10
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For a bit of history - Port is left because the port drink is PASSED to the left at dinner. The port light is red because port is red.
Port replaced larboard on sailing ships because larboard and starboard where too easy to confuse.
You are mixing definitions. Port is on the left because that is where the ship moored, opposite of the "steerboard" -
#57 by pippin on 08 Feb, 2008 14:15
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Can't be. The other explanation sounded way more realistic ;-)QuoteGary - 8/2/2008 9:32 AM
For a bit of history - Port is left because the port drink is PASSED to the left at dinner. The port light is red because port is red.
Port replaced larboard on sailing ships because larboard and starboard where too easy to confuse.
You are mixing definitions. Port is on the left because that is where the ship moored, opposite of the "steerboard" -
#58 by stan on 08 Feb, 2008 14:21
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At the risk of thread drift..
Starboard derives from the days of double-ended ships before rudders were hung on the centerline. I believe it came into the Engish language through the danish and norsk invaders. The steering oar used to be hung from the aft, "steerboard" side. The other side, the larboard side, was usually the side of the ship that was placed against the wharf. If I remember correctly from my merchant shipping days, the Norwegians still use the term "larboard".
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#59 by ntschke on 08 Feb, 2008 14:28
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Actually this is all very interesting...and is a good way to pass the time during one of the less-exciting portions of most shuttle missions-TPS inspections.
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