Author Topic: THEOS launch - October 1 (Read 39037 times)

William Graham · « **Reply #40 on:** 08/07/2008 10:32 am »

Quote from: input~2 on 08/07/2008 10:15 am

"Kazakhstan suddenly withdrew permission for the first-stage booster to fall within its borders."

from Bangkok Post dated to-day

Strange, they've never had problems with it in the past. Is this just for this launch, or for all launches - if it affects all launches, there could be serious issues with anything launching from Baikonur.

DmitryP · « **Reply #41 on:** 08/07/2008 10:58 am »

Quote from: GW_Simulations on 08/07/2008 10:32 am

Strange, they've never had problems with it in the past. Is this just for this launch, or for all launches - if it affects all launches, there could be serious issues with anything launching from Baikonur.

You have to remember that this launch is managed by private company (Kosmotras). Even for the Russian Government negotiations on drop zones were very difficult and here there is a smell of private money all around negotiation table...

William Graham · « **Reply #42 on:** 08/07/2008 11:03 am »

Quote from: DmitryP on 08/07/2008 10:58 am

Quote from: GW_Simulations on 08/07/2008 10:32 am
Strange, they've never had problems with it in the past. Is this just for this launch, or for all launches - if it affects all launches, there could be serious issues with anything launching from Baikonur.

You have to remember that this launch is managed by private company (Kosmotras). Even for the Russian Government negotiations on drop zones were very difficult and here there is a smell of private money all around negotiation table...

Kosmotras have launched from Baikonur. So have Starsem, ILS and Land Launch. I'm sure some of them have dropped stages in Kazakhstan.

Danderman · « **Reply #43 on:** 08/07/2008 01:59 pm »

Quote from: GW_Simulations on 08/07/2008 10:32 am

Strange, they've never had problems with it in the past. Is this just for this launch, or for all launches - if it affects all launches, there could be serious issues with anything launching from Baikonur.

This is the first launch from Dombarisky that will drop the first stage in Kazakhstan, and the part of the Kazakhstan where the stage will drop has never previously been used as a drop zone. Typically, SSO Dnepr launches from Baikonur drop the first stage in Turkmenistan.

MiHC · « **Reply #44 on:** 08/08/2008 02:13 am »

Understood that Genesis I and Genesis II had been launched from Dombarovskiy since two and one year ago respectively. As the specific inclination of 65 degree, what should be the first stage drop zone area for Genesis cases? Seem like still in Kazas but different zone? If true, why not applicable for THEOS .. Just my wondering

Danderman · « **Reply #45 on:** 08/08/2008 02:34 pm »

Quote from: MiHC on 08/08/2008 02:13 am

Understood that Genesis I and Genesis II had been launched from Dombarovskiy since two and one year ago respectively. As the specific inclination of 65 degree, what should be the first stage drop zone area for Genesis cases? Seem like still in Kazas but different zone? If true, why not applicable for THEOS .. Just my wondering

You literally have it backwards. 65 degrees is a posigrade orbit, meaning that the spacecraft is traveling eastwards. Therefore, the lower stages would drop eastwards from the launch site. Since mission planners don't want to drop stages in China, one has to assume that the launch was to a northeasterly azimuth, and therefore the lower stages would drop over Siberia.

On the other hand, THEOS is to be launched to a 98, retrograde orbit.

anik · « **Reply #46 on:** 08/12/2008 05:23 am »

According to http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=200154 the launch likely will be in the end of August if there will be agreement between Kosmotras and Kazkosmos about the using of Kazakhstan territory as the impact zone for the first stage of Dnepr rocket.

Olaf · « **Reply #47 on:** 08/23/2008 08:32 pm »

Here is a summary of the problems with THEOS by Jim Oberg.

http://www.space.com/news/080822-dnepr-thailand-woes.html

anik · « **Reply #48 on:** 08/29/2008 03:32 pm »

According to http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=59287&cid=125 the head of Roskosmos Anatoliy Perminov said that THEOS satellite will be launched till the end of 2008.

osiossim · « **Reply #49 on:** 09/10/2008 09:31 am »

According to verbal the sources, after the successfull launch of Rapideye from Baikonur, EADS Astrium, ISC Kosmotras and Thailand MICT aggreed to move the satellite from Yasny to Baikonur to launch at the end of 2008. Moving operation expected to take some 3 months.

But this time the question is; if Theos moved to Baikonur, what will happen to Dubaisat and UK-DMC2 and others?

pm1823 · « **Reply #50 on:** 09/10/2008 10:26 am »

I think, that all this commercial launching from Yasniy(Dombrovskiy) in south direction was some kind of dark business from Kosmotras and RVSN side. Why they thought, that someone gift them new "fall areas" in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, if old "fall areas" (for Proton) in Kazakhstan having troubles and shrinking every year?! What they could offer for Kazakhs?

anik · « **Reply #51 on:** 09/10/2008 06:21 pm »

As per Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the next attempt of THEOS launch is planned in the end of September. Still from Dombarovskiy cosmodrome.

osiossim · « **Reply #52 on:** 09/12/2008 01:02 pm »

Quote from: anik on 09/10/2008 06:21 pm

As per Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the next attempt of THEOS launch is planned in the end of September. Still from Dombarovskiy cosmodrome.

The problem is not a launch window but the drop zone. If Kazak, Turkmen and Uzbek Governements provide necessary permissions, ISCK may try launch attempt any time. They do not have to wait until the end of September. Rocket and satellite are fuelled, battary of THEOS is charged.

So, I assume we should expect a transfer operation from Yasny to Baikonur.

anik · « **Reply #53 on:** 09/19/2008 08:30 pm »

According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is currently scheduled for September 30th (the backup date is October 1).

anik · « **Reply #54 on:** 09/24/2008 04:28 pm »

According to my source, the final launch date is October 1.

anik · « **Reply #55 on:** 09/26/2008 06:49 pm »

Quote from: anik on 09/24/2008 04:28 pm

According to my source, the final launch date is October 1

But according to http://www.rbc.ua/rus/newsline/2008/09/24/436576.shtml the launch date is October 4/5.

anik · « **Reply #56 on:** 09/30/2008 04:44 pm »

According to http://www.regnum.ru/news/1062030.html the launch will be tomorrow.

I was told that the launch time is 06:37[:16] UTC (I am not sure about seconds).

Se Elmeri · « **Reply #57 on:** 10/01/2008 06:50 am »

Did it go?

William Graham · « **Reply #58 on:** 10/01/2008 06:54 am »

Quote from: Se Elmeri on 10/01/2008 06:50 am

Did it go?

No news yet, either way. This is not unusual for Russian launches, though.

William Graham · « **Reply #59 on:** 10/01/2008 06:59 am »

Launch confirmed (I think - can't read Russian - had to translate with Google)

http://gazeta.ru/news/lenta/2008/10/01/n_1277165.shtml