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#60 by Nicolas PILLET on 11 Feb, 2008 19:03
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jancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html -
#61 by Stan Black on 11 Feb, 2008 19:35
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Nicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
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#62 by William Graham on 11 Feb, 2008 20:15
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Success confirmed:
http://www.ilslaunch.com/ils/mission-accomplished/
http://www.ilslaunch.com/ils/news-021108/QuoteDarthVader - 11/2/2008 6:34 PM
ILS have posted a video: http://www.ilslaunch.com/ils/we-have-liftoff/
As anyone recorded the webcast by any chance? I'd love to watch it
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#63 by edkyle99 on 11 Feb, 2008 20:35
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Stan Black - 11/2/2008 2:35 PM
QuoteNicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
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#64 by Stan Black on 11 Feb, 2008 20:36
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edkyle99 - 11/2/2008 3:35 PM
QuoteStan Black - 11/2/2008 2:35 PM
QuoteNicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
- Ed Kyle
Still it did launch
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#65 by edkyle99 on 11 Feb, 2008 20:40
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Gotta love those rare Proton (or Ariane, or Atlas, etc.) daylight launches. Proton looks good in those black stripes when the sun shines.
Congrats to Krunichev, ILS, Orbital Sciences, and Telenor Satellite Broadcasting!
- Ed Kyle
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#66 by edkyle99 on 11 Feb, 2008 20:43
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Stan Black - 11/2/2008 3:36 PM
Quoteedkyle99 - 11/2/2008 3:35 PM
QuoteStan Black - 11/2/2008 2:35 PM
QuoteNicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
- Ed Kyle
Still it did launch
Right. All that Nicolas is saying is that it was the 332nd orbital Proton attempt. It was also the 333rd Proton launch.
- Ed Kyle -
#67 by Satori on 11 Feb, 2008 20:51
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edkyle99 - 11/2/2008 3:43 PM
QuoteStan Black - 11/2/2008 3:36 PM
Quoteedkyle99 - 11/2/2008 3:35 PM
QuoteStan Black - 11/2/2008 2:35 PM
QuoteNicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
- Ed Kyle
Still it did launch
Right. All that Nicolas is saying is that it was the 332nd orbital Proton attempt. It was also the 333rd Proton launch.
- Ed Kyle
...well, it was also the 4549th orbital launch, the 2799th orbital russian launch and the 1203rd orbital launch from Baykonur... if my charts are wrong!!! -
#68 by Skyrocket on 11 Feb, 2008 21:28
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edkyle99 - 11/2/2008 10:35 PM
QuoteStan Black - 11/2/2008 2:35 PM
QuoteNicolas PILLET - 11/2/2008 2:03 PM
Quotejancarlobascu - 11/2/2008 4:49 AM
This launch is the 333rd for Proton rocket History
The 332nd if you don't take in account the suborbital launch of august 1970, what I do in my website :
http://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/proton/protonliste.html
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
- Ed Kyle
Just to do a little Nitpicking: all the Proton flights with Breeze upperstage are in fact suborbital (for the three Proton stages) - only Breeze and the payload reach orbit. -
#69 by DarthVader on 11 Feb, 2008 22:18
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There's a video of the launch on Khrunichev web site (up to after the 1st stage separation I think):
http://coopi.khrunichev.ru/2008/thor/thor_v.htm
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#70 by antonioe on 11 Feb, 2008 22:55
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(from various posters)
Why exclude that one? It wasn't the only sub-orbital Proton!
It was the only planned suborbital Proton flight.
Still it did launch
...well, it was also the 4549th orbital launch, the 2799th orbital russian launch and the 1203rd orbital launch from Baykonur... if my charts are wrong!!!
Just to do a little Nitpicking: all the Proton flights with Breeze upperstage are in fact suborbital (for the three Proton stages) - only Breeze and the payload reach orbit."See the little phrases go.
Watch their funny antics.
The men that make them wiggle so
are teachers of Semantics"Frederick Winsor, "The Space Child Mother Goose"
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#71 by Nicolas PILLET on 12 Feb, 2008 10:39
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edkyle99 - 11/2/2008 10:43 PM
Right. All that Nicolas is saying is that it was the 332nd orbital Proton attempt. It was also the 333rd Proton launch.
- Ed Kyle
Exactly !
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#72 by Stan Black on 12 Feb, 2008 18:13
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Nicolas PILLET - 12/2/2008 5:39 AM
Quoteedkyle99 - 11/2/2008 10:43 PM
Right. All that Nicolas is saying is that it was the 332nd orbital Proton attempt. It was also the 333rd Proton launch.
- Ed Kyle
Exactly !
I'm sure there is more to this argument but I do not wish to make enemies!
Stan
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#73 by Nicolas PILLET on 13 Feb, 2008 12:36
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The only reason for which I do not take in account the 1970 suborbital launch is that it would lead me to take in account all suborbital launches of space vehicles...
It is sure this is not a very good reason , but if I did count suborbital launches, it would mean that Spoutnik was NOT the first space launch, since there were ballistic launches of R-7 before october 1957...
But you're right : there are many arguments against me !
Nicolas
PS : Thank you !
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#74 by Gorizont on 13 Feb, 2008 19:02
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Hello, I think that was the 335th launch.
I used the list on "www.tbs-satellite.com" and I think it should be the most complete one.
Also I saved the list/webpage and filled some more information in it, for example launch-times and real names fore some of the "cosmos"-types.
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#75 by Skyrocket on 13 Feb, 2008 19:55
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Gorizont - 13/2/2008 9:02 PM
Hello, I think that was the 335th launch.
I used the list on "www.tbs-satellite.com" and I think it should be the most complete one.
Also I saved the list/webpage and filled some more information in it, for example launch-times and real names fore some of the "cosmos"-types.
greetings... Soeren
No, forget the TBS list (http://www.tbs-satellite.com/tse/online/lanc_proton.html). It is outdated and contains two Proton launces, which did not take place. I once started this list for TBS, but since then i have reworked my list and the recent one you can find under http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_fam/proton.htm
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#76 by Gorizont on 13 Feb, 2008 21:02
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No, forget the TBS list (http://www.tbs-satellite.com/tse/online/lanc_proton.html). It is outdated and contains two Proton launces, which did not take place. I once started this list for TBS, but since then i have reworked my list and the recent one you can find under http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_fam/proton.htm
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Gunter
http://space.skyrocket.de
Hi Gunter, I know your page and visit it often. ;-)
I will rework "my" TBS-list and delete the 2 launches. Thank you for the hint.
But: By the way, there is another problem.
The Proton with Express-AM1-launch had a "300 PUSK" writing at on of the strap-on-tanks. Have you any idea, why? At all lists, I found, this was not the 300. launch.
(I mean this picture, which you marked with "Proton-K Blok-DM-2M (Ekspress-A 1R)" on your page.)
Perhaps is it the 300. launch of the Block-D-type upper-stage.
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#77 by Skyrocket on 13 Feb, 2008 21:16
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Gorizont - 13/2/2008 11:02 PM
But: By the way, there is another problem.
The Proton with Express-AM1-launch had a "300 PUSK" writing at on of the strap-on-tanks. Have you any idea, why? At all lists, I found, this was not the 300. launch.
(I mean this picture, which you marked with "Proton-K Blok-DM-2M (Ekspress-A 1R)" on your page.)
Perhaps is it the 300. launch of the Block-D-type upper-stage.
No, it does not work for the Blok-D numbering: http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_stage/blok-d.htm
The "300 Pusk" inscription is also a riddle to me.
Thanks.