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New NASA website
« on: 11/08/2007 01:50 PM »
From the email:


"More than a graphic facelift, nasa.gov 5.0 will offer users a new level of interactivity: the opportunity to comment on selected agency stories, for example, or to create a personal playlist of favorite NASA videos, or to share NASA content with others via social bookmarking sites such as Digg and del.icio.us. New topic-based navigation will offer users easier access to the depth and breadth of NASA Web content. On the back end, nasa.gov 5.0 will integrate new software to improve search results and help users find our most popular content."


(Internal link - a big no no! - Chris).






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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #1 on: 11/08/2007 02:43 PM »
Can't wait to see it.  I hope it's updated more than the NASA site is now!

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #2 on: 11/08/2007 03:35 PM »
Why does even NASA feel the need to jump on the social networking bandwagon? Can't some sites exist solely as sources of officially generated content? Personally, I have no idea what value the opinions of NASA fans will add to the official NASA website (he says while stating an opinion on a NASA fan website.)

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« Reply #3 on: 11/08/2007 03:53 PM »
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Why does even NASA feel the need to jump on the social networking bandwagon? Can't some sites exist solely as sources of officially generated content? Personally, I have no idea what value the opinions of NASA fans will add to the official NASA website (he says while stating an opinion on a NASA fan website.)

I don't think it's about adding value - it's about adding interest.

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #4 on: 11/08/2007 04:25 PM »
NASA's website has continously gone downhill ever since they outsourced it. I doubt that this is anything more than eye candy with, in all likelyhood, even more loss of links to hard data.

PAO at work.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #5 on: 11/08/2007 07:24 PM »
I have always loved hot http://www.nasa.gov/ resolves and http://nasa.gov/ does not. Give it a try with your favorite web site, most will resolve without the www. Who wants to type "www" everytime they hand enter a website?

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #6 on: 11/08/2007 07:47 PM »
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I have always loved hot http://www.nasa.gov/ resolves and http://nasa.gov/ does not. Give it a try with your favorite web site, most will resolve without the www. Who wants to type "www" everytime they hand enter a website?

That's NASA's (or their contractor's) fault for not registering the plain 'nasa.gov' address as well as the www address.
(and if they were smart, and permitted, they would have registered both 'www.nasa.com' and 'nasa.com' as well)

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #7 on: 11/08/2007 08:07 PM »
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That's NASA's (or their contractor's) fault for not registering the plain 'nasa.gov' address as well as the www address.
(and if they were smart, and permitted, they would have registered both 'www.nasa.com' and 'nasa.com' as well)

It's not really a matter of registering another address; unless there's some unknown reason they don't want it to work that way, it's a fairly simple (one-line!) configuration change on their DNS server. I've made that mistake a few times myself.  Shame they haven't fixed it in all the years I've been typing in the wrong one, cursing, and having to type it in again...

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #8 on: 11/08/2007 08:14 PM »
It would if NASA owned the DNS server(s) for their URL addresses. They don't.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #9 on: 11/08/2007 10:14 PM »
Well, either way, it's annoying.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #10 on: 11/09/2007 08:48 AM »
I've always found the main NASA website to be lacking detail and hard to navigate. They really need to link to all the stuff with detailed information (on the NTRS website etc.) from the main mission pages, not just lots of pretty pictures.

Hopefully they've done more than just Web 2.0ified the site and broken tons of links.
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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #11 on: 11/09/2007 08:43 PM »
The new website will be up November 30th at www.nasa.gov.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #12 on: 11/11/2007 09:39 PM »

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Actually they do!  ;) . NASA owns/operates one the the 13 mirrored top level Root Domain Name Servers which form the backbone of the internet. Its at Ames somewhere, although they wouldn't be able to just edit it as and when they want.


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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #13 on: 11/11/2007 10:12 PM »
Does anyone know how much they've spent on the redesign?

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #14 on: 11/11/2007 10:39 PM »
For those who have a negative impression about NASA.gov ...

The NASA web presence is huge, and if you spend time (you'll need a lot) perusing it you may find yourself agreeing with a description that a friend of mine once gave: "It's perhaps the single largest repository of knowledge in existence". The more of the NASA web presence I have seen, the more impressed I am. It's not always easy to navigate, but considering the sheer mass of material that is hosted, it's not surprising.

As far as I'm concerned, if you look around the NASA web site, you might learn something (sorry Keith ;-)

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #15 on: 11/13/2007 09:45 AM »
I just hope that they will come up with a nice gallery feature. Shuttle images from one source and from early missions. That would be sensational -- but we all know what's it gonna be like in the end, right?

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #16 on: 11/13/2007 11:31 AM »
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I just hope that they will come up with a nice gallery feature. Shuttle images from one source and from early missions. That would be sensational -- but we all know what's it gonna be like in the end, right?

Probably do the same thing that they did to NIX- make it "better." Used to be that NIX was the most handy and easy to use site to quickly search all of NASA for photo images in one shot- and you could search as many as 400 at a time- then just scroll down the thumbnails and pick what you wanted. You could search the phrase "Saturn V" for example and boom! 400 thumbs! Then... they made it better... Now, go to NIX and enter "Saturn V" as a phrase and it will tell you, "no content found." You have to type it in as 2 words, and then you get all of the planet Saturn images too- because, unlike the former system, you cannot eliminate any of the centers from the search. And so on... So, what they did was take a very handy tool and make it a pain to use. I used to search with NIX all the time- now I don't even bother.

There's something about web folks that they always want to take a simple easy to use tool and just when everyone gets used to using it- make it "better." which, by the way- it rarely is.


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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #17 on: 11/21/2007 04:33 PM »
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/NASA50/1.html

They have a preview up on the NASA site

Looks okay,  but I hope they have people on the payroll to moderate the comments or that will just get out of hand.

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #18 on: 11/21/2007 04:43 PM »
Fair play to Brian Dunbar (good guy who did ask some of us writers on ideas) - as some certainly made it into this new version!

The comments will likely be approval based, so spam and rubbish will simply never be published.

The cloud is a very good idea, it's worked very well for us on L2:

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #19 on: 11/21/2007 04:49 PM »
I do love the cloud idea it is awesome on L2.  I wonder if there are any other government websites that are that interactive.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #20 on: 11/21/2007 04:52 PM »
Looks good. I hope they are careful with the comments section as they might get moon conspiracy idiots!

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #21 on: 11/21/2007 05:29 PM »
I'm curious how they will handle the constellation criticism.
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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #22 on: 11/21/2007 07:09 PM »
Interesting. I wonder if the photos seen on the NTV clip of the photosynth will be shown?  Well I ask as I've never seen them shown on the NASA photo gallery before.

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #23 on: 11/22/2007 05:25 PM »
Looked at the preview on the NASA website and it does look good. Look forward to it going live.

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #24 on: 11/22/2007 08:07 PM »
I think it looks good but does anyone think it looks a bit too simple and easy-to-use?

I mean, I hope I can still find everything. I suppose you just have to get used to it though, I'm still looking forward to explore it when it comnes out!



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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #25 on: 11/23/2007 05:09 PM »
Any idea when the new site will be online?

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #26 on: 11/23/2007 05:13 PM »
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Any idea when the new site will be online?
Nov. 30 as stated earlier in this thread.
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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #27 on: 11/25/2007 09:36 AM »
Looks like it'll be easier to navigate.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #28 on: 11/25/2007 10:17 AM »
I think nasa.gov 5.0 web-site is good making and it will be interesting for the unprofessional users.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #29 on: 11/30/2007 04:03 PM »
Isn't the new website suppose to be out today?  It is still the same thing.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #30 on: 11/30/2007 06:37 PM »

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Nov. 30 as stated earlier in this thread.

 It's 1 December here! (Australia) When is the site being put up? *Impatient*


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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #31 on: 11/30/2007 07:34 PM »
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Nov. 30 as stated earlier in this thread.

It's 1 December here! (Australia) When is the site being put up? *Impatient*


Yeah I went straight onto NASA.gov after school today and was disappointed... :(

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #32 on: 11/30/2007 08:49 PM »
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Nov. 30 as stated earlier in this thread.

It's 1 December here! (Australia) When is the site being put up? *Impatient*


Yeah I went straight onto NASA.gov after school today and was disappointed... :(

same here

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #33 on: 11/30/2007 09:06 PM »
Rest assured we don't need everyone to post that they aren't getting the new site. When someone does, it'll be made clear. I see nothing on the preview that says it is starting today.

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« Reply #34 on: 12/01/2007 05:32 AM »
I just went to nasa.gov and the new website is UP!  :)
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #35 on: 12/01/2007 06:03 AM »
Same. Just now, everything is up and running.

Enjoy the new site folks!

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« Reply #36 on: 12/01/2007 06:12 AM »
Finally a NASA site that doesn't look like it was designed 10 years ago. Kudos to whoever designed it!
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« Reply #37 on: 12/01/2007 08:05 AM »
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Finally a NASA site that doesn't look like it was designed 10 years ago. Kudos to whoever designed it!

Some pages like the Expedition mission pages are still old!

But overall a great new look!

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #38 on: 12/01/2007 08:29 AM »
Ayone else having trouble when viewed with Firefox 1.5.0.12? I get a black screen with two links. Neither of which work...

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« Reply #39 on: 12/01/2007 09:19 AM »
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Ayone else having trouble when viewed with Firefox 1.5.0.12? I get a black screen with two links. Neither of which work...

I'd say update to the latest version, I have 2.0.0.10...   :)

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #40 on: 12/01/2007 09:37 AM »
The new website seems to look quite good. My only criticisms are that it takes about twice as long to load as the old one, and they seem to have accidentally reverted to an out-of-date version of their launch schedule (now renamed "mission schedule").

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« Reply #41 on: 12/01/2007 11:26 AM »
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I'd say update to the latest version, I have 2.0.0.10...   :)
Already out of date:
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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #42 on: 12/01/2007 11:45 AM »
Netscape too!

"There's a problem with your browser.

This site offers visitors an exciting, engaging interactive experience that takes advantage of the capabilities available through the most commonly used Web browsers. If you're seeing this message, you may be using a web browser that has since been updated and may want to consider obtaining the latest version.

› Find out how to obtain updated Web browsers "

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #43 on: 12/01/2007 11:56 AM »
Quizes have a bug.

If you answer the question incorrectly, any attempt to then go back or refresh to try again, with the correct answer gets,

Test Your Knowledge.
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« Reply #44 on: 12/01/2007 12:02 PM »
i like it .... pleasant surprise

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #45 on: 12/01/2007 12:04 PM »
The L2 style cloud is a good idea, but the problem with that is it takes you to the terrible search page that was there before, which is really not helpful.

Looks nice, takes forever to load, but the prize will go to if they improve the content from the dross they've been pushing on there for years.

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RE: New NASA website
« Reply #46 on: 12/01/2007 12:30 PM »
My number one complaint is that they've gone to more Javascript links.  I always found it annoying that the image links in the multimedia gallery were javascript window pops - prevented me from opening the image in a new tab.


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« Reply #47 on: 12/01/2007 10:09 PM »
The only complaint I have is that the website takes about a little bit longer to load up than the old one.  Overall looks great, and is better than the old site. It seems that things are a lot quicker to find than the old site.  I hope that the site will stay updated better than the old site was.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #48 on: 12/02/2007 12:39 AM »

Ooh, snazzy! :)

Good points:

  • Design-wise, it looks very nice and contemporary; dark and moody with fashionable gradients.
  • The clunky old-fashioned table layouts have been dumped at long last!

Not-so-good points:

  • Javascript is required to be able to view the site properly! Not good for accessibility – Javascript and Flash should be accessories to a site, not depended upon for a site to function.
  • Takes some time to load; using “View Page Source” there is a lot of wierd “stuff” in the code, perhaps generated by whatever site template is used?
  • It fails validation.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #49 on: 12/02/2007 10:13 AM »
Looks better than the old one. But it's a tad overdone and not as professional. I'd prefer it with slightly less images and animation (155 images on the missions page alone)

Runs miserably on my laptop too which is only 3 years old. I'm not fond of the dependence on rollovers when for most people, habit is to click.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #50 on: 12/02/2007 11:43 AM »
I like the new site. Much easier to find the things I'm looking for. The layout is also very nice, but it takes a tad longer to load. Not a problem of course and I look forward to see the new capabilities of the new site.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #51 on: 12/02/2007 05:23 PM »
The NASA TV plug-in produces a black screen on my laptop...audio but no video.  I have Firefox 2.0.0.11 and ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 with 1920x1200 screen.  Not a good start.

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #52 on: 12/02/2007 06:46 PM »
Takes about 40 seconds (on broadband) before the site displays!  :o (NASA TV displaying OK for me - Firefox 2.0.0.11)

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Re: New NASA website
« Reply #53 on: 12/04/2007 03:05 PM »
Found the solution to blank video.   Clear the "Use video mixing renderer" checkbox on the Windows Media Player advanced options.  Apparently this is a problem with recent versions of WMP displaying MPEG 1 video streams.

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