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Offline Dante80

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1400 on: 12/27/2015 07:12 am »
W00t!, its happening..C:

Here is a google maps view I quickly made for the location.


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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1401 on: 12/27/2015 08:47 pm »
Unfortunately the environment study takes 6mo to a year to be completed. So construction would not start until approval and there may be limitations and facility design considerations added that will delay construction start until an approved design for the facility is obtained. Expect construction start NET Jan 2017. But that also means that LV and engine production could start as early as a year latter Jan 2018.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1402 on: 12/28/2015 01:10 pm »
Unfortunately the environment study takes 6mo to a year to be completed. So construction would not start until approval and there may be limitations and facility design considerations added that will delay construction start until an approved design for the facility is obtained. Expect construction start NET Jan 2017. But that also means that LV and engine production could start as early as a year latter Jan 2018.

From what I read that area is phase 2 so a 6mo to a year delay shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1403 on: 01/13/2016 05:01 am »
The New Shepard Booster has been knocked in the media for being lilliputian compared to the towering landed Falcon 9. But surely if these Hydrolox rockets can be flown repeatedly without too much maintenance it has some bearing on future lunar landers using in situ propellants?

Not that you would put the New Shepard itself on the Moon but some of the technologies on it could be integrated into a future lunar shuttle.  Any concepts for one I have read use hydrogen as their fuel and are generally smaller than NS.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1404 on: 01/18/2016 08:59 am »
Jeff and Blues engineers will be very happy with the successful SOFT touch down of F9 booster on barge. (RUD is separate issue). Blue Origin now know a barge landing in heavy seas is an achievable goal.

Now where is that flight of New Shepard booster, it is long overdue.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1405 on: 01/18/2016 02:24 pm »
But surely if these Hydrolox rockets can be flown repeatedly without too much maintenance it has some bearing on future lunar landers using in situ propellants?

The "Hydrolox rockets can be flown repeatedly without too much maintenance" part has been performed by DC-X.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1406 on: 01/19/2016 03:24 pm »
Third flight coming soon? Tomorrow through Friday, it looks like.
 
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FDC 6/4629 ZAB NM..AIRSPACE VAN HORN, TX..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS DUE TO SPACE FLIGHT OPERATIONS WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 17NM RADIUS OF 3127N10446W OR THE SALT FLAT /SFL/ VORTAC 125 DEGREE RADIAL AT 24NM, SFC TO UNL. PURSUANT TO 14CFR SECTION 91.143 TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. AUDREY POWERS, TELEPHONE 432-207-2132, IS IN CHARGE OF OPERATION. ALBUQUERQUE ARTCC /ZAB/, TELEPHONE 505-856-4500, IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. DLY 1300-2100 1601201300-1601222100

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1407 on: 01/22/2016 02:08 pm »
Third flight coming soon? Tomorrow through Friday, it looks like.
 
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FDC 6/4629 ZAB NM..AIRSPACE VAN HORN, TX..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS DUE TO SPACE FLIGHT OPERATIONS WITHIN AN AREA DEFINED AS 17NM RADIUS OF 3127N10446W OR THE SALT FLAT /SFL/ VORTAC 125 DEGREE RADIAL AT 24NM, SFC TO UNL. PURSUANT TO 14CFR SECTION 91.143 TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT. AUDREY POWERS, TELEPHONE 432-207-2132, IS IN CHARGE OF OPERATION. ALBUQUERQUE ARTCC /ZAB/, TELEPHONE 505-856-4500, IS THE FAA COORDINATION FACILITY. DLY 1300-2100 1601201300-1601222100

I've been told the next test flight is scheduled in February.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1408 on: 01/22/2016 06:51 pm »
Some chatter on Twitter that BO flew today!?  Any updates whether this was a reuse of New Shephard?  Oh brother!
Here's the picture that's been floating around and the original source;
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Second ever tweet from that account, but google reverse image search doesn't pick up use of that image anywhere else. The tweet's also been liked by none other than Tory Bruno, read into that what you will.
EDIT: Alan Boyle at Geekwire got a statement out of Blue, and it's not a denial;
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Alan Boyle ‏@b0yle  5m5 minutes ago
Not much info from @blueorigin so far on flight test buzz: "Unfortunately, Blue Origin doesn't have anything to contribute at this time."
« Last Edit: 01/22/2016 08:04 pm by Kryten »

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1409 on: 01/22/2016 08:12 pm »
Lots of axial rotation on that ascent, or is that just wind shear?

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1410 on: 01/22/2016 08:45 pm »
Lots of axial rotation on that ascent, or is that just wind shear?
Strangest wind shear I've ever seen.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1411 on: 01/22/2016 08:50 pm »
Huh, weird-looking contrail + no confirmation OR denial from Blue.  Hope nothing went wrong, assuming this was indeed a reflight test by Blue.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1412 on: 01/22/2016 08:53 pm »
Typical out here on the plains. Wind direction and speed can be very different at different altitudes. Seen similar at high power rocketry events. Nothing appears out of the ordinary. Hopefully we will have confirmation that everything is fine.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1413 on: 01/22/2016 08:55 pm »
Seems like a staging event at the top, too.  Which would be odd for New Shepard.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1414 on: 01/22/2016 09:04 pm »
If a vehicle would have flown such a trajectory it would have disintegrated pretty fast. ;) Looks like a good ascend to me.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1415 on: 01/22/2016 09:52 pm »
In their previous November landing video, the trail behind the booster has that helical pattern, albeit viewed from a different angle.

at the 1:07 mark.
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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1416 on: 01/22/2016 10:01 pm »
Lots of axial rotation on that ascent, or is that just wind shear?
Strangest wind shear I've ever seen.

They also have that funky aero ring at the top, which may be causing some vorticity that does strange things to the contrail.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1417 on: 01/22/2016 10:21 pm »
In their previous November landing video, the trail behind the booster has that helical pattern, albeit viewed from a different angle.

at the 1:07 mark.
Could that trail patten be from the engine gimbaling? Seems to be from the video.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1418 on: 01/22/2016 10:44 pm »
Last time we had to wait until a day after the test, so that they could announce the results by way of a huge youtube brofist. If it's all gone successfully that's probably what their graphic designers are doing right now.

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Re: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread
« Reply #1419 on: 01/23/2016 02:09 am »

Last time we had to wait until a day after the test, so that they could announce the results by way of a huge youtube brofist. If it's all gone successfully that's probably what their graphic designers are doing right now.

What's a brofist, sounds Roman?

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