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#1420
by
bobthemonkey
on 15 Nov, 2008 00:30
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Just repeating a question somene asked me, and I had no idea as to the answer.
Who provides the range safety officer for shuttle launches, and where are they stationed?
Is it a civilian position (unionised?) or do they come from the military? Do they operate out of KSC or CCAFS?
Sorry for the slightly grim qustion.
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#1421
by
DaveS
on 15 Nov, 2008 01:21
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Who provides the range safety officer for shuttle launches, and where are they stationed?
The Air Force.
Is it a civilian position (unionised?) or do they come from the military? Do they operate out of KSC or CCAFS?
It's military and operate from Range Operations Control Center(ROCC), located at CCAFS.
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#1422
by
Jim
on 15 Nov, 2008 02:13
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They can be civilian. Unions have nothing to do with them
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#1423
by
Zoe
on 15 Nov, 2008 23:46
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Did anyone notice with STS-126 that the CGLS picked up the count at T-20 minutes before the NTD had finished her briefing? So can the CGLS resume the countdown without authority from the NTD?
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#1424
by
mkirk
on 16 Nov, 2008 00:36
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Did anyone notice with STS-126 that the CGLS picked up the count at T-20 minutes before the NTD had finished her briefing? So can the CGLS resume the countdown without authority from the NTD?
NTD and CGLS coordinated to set the CDC (countdown clock) resume time shortly after the hold began - which is standard. The clock will automatically pick up at that specific GMT (entered by CGLS) unless the NTD later requests that it be cancelled.
Mark Kirkman
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#1425
by
Hoonte
on 16 Nov, 2008 17:37
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If at start only 1 booster fires (dont know if this is possible) can the crew still escape?
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#1426
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 16 Nov, 2008 17:43
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If at start only 1 booster fires (dont know if this is possible) can the crew still escape?
No
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#1427
by
Aobrien
on 16 Nov, 2008 19:45
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How long after launch do they roll the MLP in?
I think it is when they need it again but aren't sure.
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#1428
by
cd-slam
on 17 Nov, 2008 03:59
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Can anyone explain this priceless image which is on KSC Multimedia gallery? It seems a rather strange way to "reward" a launch director after a successful launch.
Cheers.
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#1429
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 17 Nov, 2008 04:19
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Can anyone explain this priceless image which is on KSC Multimedia gallery? It seems a rather strange way to "reward" a launch director after a successful launch.
Cheers.
It is the traditional tie cutting ceremony performed after the person in question's first successful launch in their new position. If you check the media gallary, you'll see that Mike also cut Charlie Blackwell-Thompson's tie since this was her first flight as NTD.
And just FYI, the person whose tie is being cut is Bob Cabana, the new Center Director. Mike (the person cutting the tie) was Endeavour's Launch Director.
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#1430
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 17 Nov, 2008 04:23
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How long after launch do they roll the MLP in?
I think it is when they need it again but aren't sure.
It's dependent on several factors: when they need the MLP for stacking ops; when they need the pad vacated for the next stack; ect...
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#1431
by
shuttlefan
on 17 Nov, 2008 12:42
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Just repeating a question somene asked me, and I had no idea as to the answer.
Who provides the range safety officer for shuttle launches, and where are they stationed?
Is it a civilian position (unionised?) or do they come from the military? Do they operate out of KSC or CCAFS?
Sorry for the slightly grim qustion.
It's a military position and they operate out of CCAFS. Not a grim question, just all the facts
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#1432
by
cd-slam
on 17 Nov, 2008 22:41
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How long after launch do they roll the MLP in?
I think it is when they need it again but aren't sure.
It's dependent on several factors: when they need the MLP for stacking ops; when they need the pad vacated for the next stack; ect...
In this case, I believe it will be constrained by the lack of an available VAB high bay. Right now MLP1 & MLP2 are located in the high bays being used for stacking for STS 119 and STS 125 missions. So there is no available place for MLP3. If you remember, following launch of STS 124 the MLP2 had been left there for some months while the STS 125 and STS 126 stacks were in the VAB.
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#1433
by
cd-slam
on 17 Nov, 2008 22:44
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It is the traditional tie cutting ceremony performed after the person in question's first successful launch in their new position. If you check the media gallary, you'll see that Mike also cut Charlie Blackwell-Thompson's tie since this was her first flight as NTD.
And just FYI, the person whose tie is being cut is Bob Cabana, the new Center Director. Mike (the person cutting the tie) was Endeavour's Launch Director.
Thanks for the answer, I saw several such photos on the KSC gallery. I thought it a bit strange to do this to someone on their first launch, more usual to do this to someone who is retiring (ie who will not need the tie again). After all will they not need a tie for their second launch? {:o)
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#1434
by
jeff2space
on 19 Nov, 2008 03:49
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How long after launch do they roll the MLP in?
I think it is when they need it again but aren't sure.
It's dependent on several factors: when they need the MLP for stacking ops; when they need the pad vacated for the next stack; ect...
In this case, I believe it will be constrained by the lack of an available VAB high bay. Right now MLP1 & MLP2 are located in the high bays being used for stacking for STS 119 and STS 125 missions. So there is no available place for MLP3. If you remember, following launch of STS 124 the MLP2 had been left there for some months while the STS 125 and STS 126 stacks were in the VAB.
Actually, there is a parking space outside the VAB where the MLP is brought and refurbished before its next stacking.
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#1435
by
psloss
on 19 Nov, 2008 11:19
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Actually, there is a parking space outside the VAB where the MLP is brought and refurbished before its next stacking.
I believe HB-2 in the VAB is also available.
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#1436
by
ddunham
on 19 Nov, 2008 17:43
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Thanks for the answer, I saw several such photos on the KSC gallery. I thought it a bit strange to do this to someone on their first launch, more usual to do this to someone who is retiring (ie who will not need the tie again). After all will they not need a tie for their second launch? {:o)
I think it's more a celebration of the accomplishment, not a way to suggest that they don't need the tie in the furutre.
It's common for naval pilots to do a similar ceremony after they fly solo for the first time. I would guess the NASA tradition comes from there, but I haven't found anything in particular that mentions it.
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Darren
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#1437
by
usn_skwerl
on 20 Nov, 2008 03:58
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Ok, a new take on an old flier. in a lazy roundabout way of looking at it, a friend of mine came to the conclusion that "basically, the shuttle is the world's biggest steam engine?" i nodded in agreement, but I'm looking for a second opinion....Could one sort of use that as a very brief explanation for the result of mixing LH2 and LOX to get airborne in the brick?
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#1438
by
Jim
on 20 Nov, 2008 08:43
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Ok, a new take on an old flier. in a lazy roundabout way of looking at it, a friend of mine came to the conclusion that "basically, the shuttle is the world's biggest steam engine?" i nodded in agreement, but I'm looking for a second opinion....Could one sort of use that as a very brief explanation for the result of mixing LH2 and LOX to get airborne in the brick?
It is no more a steam engine than a jet engine is. In a steam engine, that uses turbines, a boiler is used to put the energy into the water.
What the boiler uses for heat can be combustion of a hydrocarbon, nuclear reactor, solar or geothermal. The energy of a steam engine is transformed into rotational mechanical energy.
The exhaust of an SSME is steam and free H2. But there is steam the exhaust of an RP-1 engine
The exhaust products
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#1439
by
brodo
on 20 Nov, 2008 10:41
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During the end of built-in holds, one can hear one official at the LCC state that the countdown should resume on his mark. Is it really his mark which is decisive, or is actually a more accurate clock used?
