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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #100 on: 11/01/2007 05:23 pm »
Seems like my drawing earlier this day was correct  :)
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #101 on: 11/01/2007 05:29 pm »
So the length of the wires will have to be very precise:
- to long and they don't take the loads
- to short and it will increase overall loads on the solar array
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Very interesting repair principle.  Essentially, they are not fixing the tear itself, they are using the 'cuff link' wire to connect good panels on either side of the bad hinge.  So will the array then be extended to complete length and then tensioned?  How much tension is nominally on the arrays?
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Media going after the shock hazards (rightly so too as it's a risky deal).

"We don't expect a current to jump in open space."
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #104 on: 11/01/2007 05:32 pm »

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mwfair - 1/11/2007 11:30 AM How much tension is nominally on the arrays?

I read earlier that around 75 pounds of force is exerted on the arrays to make them rigid


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"As of this afternoon, we have completed all the outfitting required prior to relocation of Node 2".
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #106 on: 11/01/2007 05:36 pm »
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"As of this afternoon, we have completed all the outfitting required prior to relocation of Node 2".

That's something..

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ISS has all the power they need right now. Long term they need one or other other (repair and fixed arrays).
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #108 on: 11/01/2007 05:36 pm »
David Wolf is a great spokesmen for the Astronaut Corps!

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Chris Bergin - 1/11/2007  7:33 PM

"As of this afternoon, we have completed all the outfitting required prior to relocation of Node 2".

That's something..

Bought them back a day or two from the timeline also.
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"There comes times where higher risks need to be taken (for this repair)"
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #111 on: 11/01/2007 05:40 pm »

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ckiki lwai - 1/11/2007 1:29 PM So the length of the wires will have to be very precise: - to long and they don't take the loads - to short and it will increase overall loads on the solar array

Wonder if Scott was a Boy Scout? (his NASA bio didn't say, or  I missed it)  If he had his Pioneering merit badge, he could adjust the lenghts ;)  They could attach two "shorties" to make a longer wire if necessary,  perhaps tie a knot to shorten one??

David

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Right now, no EVA-5, undock FD14. If the repair is not successful, look at consumables, maybe do a short EVA-5.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #113 on: 11/01/2007 05:43 pm »
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Right now, no EVA-5, undock FD14. If the repair is not successful, look at consumables, maybe do a short EVA-5.

I guess there can be less time between EVA-4 and 5 as it's by Peggy and Yuri, correct?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #114 on: 11/01/2007 05:44 pm »
risks involved: normally an astronaut has to be able to return to the airlock in 30 min, this will not be possible during this EVA
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As stated in the MSB, the array can't be safed, the cells produce voltage when light shines!  However, they have 45minutes of no light, so can Scott touch the array during orbital night?
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #116 on: 11/01/2007 05:46 pm »
difficulty rated a 7,5 to 10 because it is very mentally demanding
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #117 on: 11/01/2007 05:53 pm »
Robotic ops: SSRMS to move from work station 8 to work station 3. Will pick up OBSS. Will hand off to SRMS so it has power. Will translate back to work station 8. Will pick up OBSS from SRMS.

My question: Since the SRMS can normally take out the OBSS, and since according to this plan it can hand off to the SSRMS at work station 8, why does the SSRMS mobile transport have to move back and forth in the first place. What constraint prevents the SRMS from taking the OBSS out on its own?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #118 on: 11/01/2007 05:54 pm »
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As stated in the MSB, the array can't be safed, the cells produce voltage when light shines!  However, they have 45minutes of no light, so can Scott touch the array during orbital night?

Your question got answered ;)
He says the protection is adequate so he sees no reason not to continue the activities in daylight

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 10 - MT/OBSS Ops - EVA-4 Preps
« Reply #119 on: 11/01/2007 05:59 pm »
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Right now, no EVA-5, undock FD14.

Does that mean, landing day is FD16?

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