Author Topic: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 9 - Transfers, EVA-4 Prep, Continuing Array/SARJ Evaluations (Read 61606 times)

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #160 on:** 10/31/2007 05:41 pm »

The partially ripped hinge is a big driver with load bearing for the array via vehicles docking.

Andy_Small · « **Reply #161 on:** 10/31/2007 05:47 pm »

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hutchel - 31/10/2007 2:18 PM

OK so use the ISS crew from QUEST and use the Discovery crew on Discovery - EVA 5 will be just the ISS crew anyway.... This is about thinking what can work and finding a way to make it work - not about why it won't work and then dismissing an idea.

Lee

Mike S: "This is our priority as a program. We need this array. It could gain further damage if we leave it in this configuration."

The other option is to put 2 into the Orlon suits - I know they are more cumbersome to work in - just depends on what you need to do..... - So there really are 3 airlocks available on orbit - heck you could put 6 outside if you wanted to - I can't imagine they would do that -but it's possible. Leave one person inside to manage each of the airlocks. That would be something to see!

Lee

The Orlans would be a good option if needed but I dont' know if they have them in a good config for an EVA this qucikly

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #162 on:** 10/31/2007 05:53 pm »

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hutchel - 31/10/2007 2:18 PM

OK so use the ISS crew from QUEST and use the Discovery crew on Discovery - EVA 5 will be just the ISS crew anyway.... This is about thinking what can work and finding a way to make it work - not about why it won't work and then dismissing an idea.

Lee

Mike S: "This is our priority as a program. We need this array. It could gain further damage if we leave it in this configuration."

The other option is to put 2 into the Orlon suits - I know they are more cumbersome to work in - just depends on what you need to do..... - So there really are 3 airlocks available on orbit - heck you could put 6 outside if you wanted to - I can't imagine they would do that -but it's possible. Leave one person inside to manage each of the airlocks. That would be something to see!

Lee

The Orlans would be a good option if needed but I dont' know if they have them in a good config for an EVA this qucikly

To all in this quote. The plan is the SSRMS+OBSS+EVA. Maybe you missed the above posts, but this continued talk about more than two EVAers is defunct. I don't mean to come across like a kill joy, but remember, many people read through the threads as a catch up and it can get convoluted.

dotdk · « **Reply #163 on:** 10/31/2007 05:53 pm »

I can't stop thinking of what they would have done had the OBSS never been build...

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #164 on:** 10/31/2007 06:00 pm »

Finally someone asked about the MMOD. Didn't think it would be Marcia Dunn.

Not really an informative answer.

ckiki lwai · « **Reply #165 on:** 10/31/2007 06:01 pm »

Oh oh, a journalist has discovered what OBSS is actually for, and asks what would happen if it gets damaged.
Lets hope the doom journalists were sleeping

generic_handle_42 · « **Reply #166 on:** 10/31/2007 06:03 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 3:00 PM

Finally someone asked about the MMOD. Didn't think it would be Marcia Dunn.

Not really an informative answer.

Sounds to me like they don't want to get into explaining alternate inspection procedures until they know for sure the OBSS sensor status post-EVA.

psloss · « **Reply #167 on:** 10/31/2007 06:05 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 2:26 PM

They can't retract the Array.

Did they say why they can't retract? Can't watch or listen right now, but I was afraid this was the case...

jimmiemac · « **Reply #168 on:** 10/31/2007 06:06 pm »

Chris B.,

Have you thought about obtaining press credentials so that you could attend and participate in these briefings. I think I can safely speak for other members that we would VERY MUCH like to have you there asking the CORRECT and relevant questions.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #169 on:** 10/31/2007 06:07 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 2:26 PM

They can't retract the Array.
Did they say why they can't retract? Can't watch or listen right now, but I was afraid this was the case...

Only that it could/would damage the array further.

tmckinley · « **Reply #170 on:** 10/31/2007 06:09 pm »

Yeah, can't you just hop across the Atlantic for each of these briefings?

Jorge · « **Reply #171 on:** 10/31/2007 06:11 pm »

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Oberon_Command - 31/10/2007 7:37 PM

I take it that undocking Discovery temporarily and maneuvering to an attitude where the SRMS can service the solar panel is not feasible?
No. Too unstable.

RCS plume impingement would be a big problem as well, even with the array in its nominal config. I'd hate to even think about what plume could do to a damaged array that is not fully extended and tensioned.

So, not just "No" but "Hell, No!"

psloss · « **Reply #172 on:** 10/31/2007 06:12 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 3:07 PM

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psloss - 31/10/2007 8:05 PM

Did they say why they can't retract? Can't watch or listen right now, but I was afraid this was the case...

Only that it could/would damage the array further.

OK, thanks...(hoping I get to see a recording of this briefing later tonight)...

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #173 on:** 10/31/2007 06:12 pm »

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jimmiemac - 31/10/2007 8:06 PM

Chris B.,

Have you thought about obtaining press credentials so that you could attend and participate in these briefings. I think I can safely speak for other members that we would VERY MUCH like to have you there asking the CORRECT and relevant questions.

I have that available, but paying to keep this site up and running means I've sacrificed flying over to sit in on these things. However, the up side is we get most of the presentations and materials used to answer the questions asked at the briefings well ahead of needing to ask the question via L2.

However, if there's any rich people on here, I'm willing to listen to them

psloss · « **Reply #174 on:** 10/31/2007 06:18 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 3:12 PM

I have that available, but paying to keep this site up and running means I've sacrificed flying over to sit in on these things. However, the up side is we get most of the presentations and materials used to answer the questions asked at the briefings well ahead of needing to ask the question via L2.

I could parrot the questions for you.

But actually, I hope you get out here for some of these missions. At least a launch.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #175 on:** 10/31/2007 06:21 pm »

So Friday's going to be one heck of a day. Good KU ability for helmetcam I assume?

hutchel · « **Reply #176 on:** 10/31/2007 06:24 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 31/10/2007 3:12 PM

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jimmiemac - 31/10/2007 8:06 PM

Chris B.,

Have you thought about obtaining press credentials so that you could attend and participate in these briefings. I think I can safely speak for other members that we would VERY MUCH like to have you there asking the CORRECT and relevant questions.

I have that available, but paying to keep this site up and running means I've sacrificed flying over to sit in on these things. However, the up side is we get most of the presentations and materials used to answer the questions asked at the briefings well ahead of needing to ask the question via L2.

However, if there's any rich people on here, I'm willing to listen to them

Why not just telecon in - they do that from the other centers anyway - I'm not a Journalist - but where there's a will, there's a way - I would think having intelligent questions asked would have the NASA PAO guys figure a way to make it happen...

triddirt · « **Reply #177 on:** 10/31/2007 06:25 pm »

Clay's antics already covered earlier...

ratman · « **Reply #178 on:** 10/31/2007 06:25 pm »

I wonder if it possible to do a "telecommute" - that is to participate in the briefing via the wire ?
Chris may be able to do that...

P.S. ...hutchel was faster

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #179 on:** 10/31/2007 06:29 pm »

I believe the ones over the line (like Marcia etc.) are still at a center, like KSC, so it's not like I could just phone in

Anyhoo, Flight Day 9!