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Flight Day 7

Latest article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5268


L2 Members, use the CLOUD, Hit STS-120, select required presentations - such as keyword Robotics

From the Flight Plan and Flight Plan Walkthrough (and just a snippet, which gives you an idea of complexity):

FD7 – P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
• P6 Handoff:
o At the end of FD6, SSRMS is based on MBS PDGF3 at WS4 grappled to P6 in the
handoff position. SRMS grapples P6 in the handoff position, and SSRMS releases P6
and maneuvers to a position to view MT translation. Then the MT and SSRMS are
translated to WS8 which is required for P6 installation on P5.
o After the Meal, SSRMS re-grapples P6 in the handoff position and SRMS releases P6
and maneuvers to precradle. P6 remains on the SSRMS in the handoff position
overnight.
o According to the flight rules, P6 should be on the SRMS for as short amount of time as
possible in case of an emergency undock.
? The robotics ops are choreographed such that only one arm changes position at a time.
? Two SSRMS and two SRMS operators are required.
? No water dumps or star of opportunity aligns are possible all day since P6 blocks the
dump nozzle and -Y star tracker in the handoff position.

• S1 Radiator Deploy: MCC-H commands deploy of S1 radiator 1 & 3 outer panels. PVR
deploy requires daylight.

? During all ROBO procedures, the shuttle crew is required to configure shuttle cameras to
support SSRMS video. Therefore, CDR, PLT, and/or MS2 should be timelined for
continuous SSRMS P/TV during robotics. The detailed pages reference the applicable
ROBO procedure in the P/TV activity.
? Illuminators are powered on overnight so MCC can control cameras to perform an ISS
survey.

• EVA Preps:
o The ISS crew resizes FE-2’s suit which is still in the airlock from EVA2 for ISS CDR. The
resize is scheduled before EMU Swap since it’s easier to resize a suit while it’s attached
to the airlock wall. This is in preparation for EVA5.
o BSA EVA tool battery charging is terminated and BSA EMU battery charging is initiated.
This is required prior to EMU Swap.
o EMUs are swapped so that FE-2’s (ISS CDR’s new) EMU is removed from the A/L and
MS3’s EMU is placed in the airlock.
o METOX regen is terminated.
o LiOH canisters and EMU batteries are installed in the EMUs, the E/L is prepared, and
EVA tools are configured.
o The ISS crew prepares DCS cameras (2) for the EVA.
o All crewmembers are timelined for an hour procedure review.
o MS1(EV1) and MS3(EV2) perform EVA campout procedures in presleep with MS4(IV)
assisting until hatch closure. They initiate a mask prebreathe, finish tool config, and
depress the A/L to 10.2 psi. The EV crewmembers sleep in the A/L overnight.
• PRLAs from Node 2 retention hardware are closed. This is scheduled during Ku LOS since
it requires two logic power switches be turned off which takes the Ku to standby.
• Exercise Inhibits:
o During S1 radiator 1 & 3 deploys
o While both arms are grappled to P6

• Maneuvers: The shuttle maneuvers the stack to ISS +XVV TEA for MLG thermal
conditioning. This attitude is held for ~12 hours.

• Node 2 Internal Outfitting:
o Node 2 Avionics Rack Outfitting includes releasing Node 2 Av rack launch restraints
and knee braces, installing KBARs and pivot fittings, and installing 4 DDCU connectors.

• Off-Duty is scheduled for 3.5 hours for shuttle crew and 2.5 hours for ISS crew. The crew
can not hear SRMS inadvertent release tones through the BPSMU, so someone may need
to remain in shuttle while P6 is on SRMS.

• PAO: This event is performed in the Lab via ISS comm. Real-time deletion of the +XVV TEA
attitude for MLG thermal will affect comm for this event.
? HAM Radio event is scheduled.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #1 on: 10/29/2007 04:30 am »
Good morning everyone! Welcome to FD 07.  I just got in from a night out, and missed crew wakeup, so I hope they were treated to some good music.

To business for today.

The FD 07 Execute Package is up: http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/194942main_fd07exec.pdf

And here is the NASA TV schedule for today.
-Nick-

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #2 on: 10/29/2007 04:33 am »
S1 radiator 1 seems to be successfully deployed.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #3 on: 10/29/2007 04:40 am »
Didn't look like it was quite as smooth a deployment as some of the previous radiators. On the other hand, those *have* been sitting folded and exposed for a number of years.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #4 on: 10/29/2007 04:48 am »
Radiator 3 deployment has begun, per PAO.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #5 on: 10/29/2007 04:50 am »
There she goes!
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #6 on: 10/29/2007 04:50 am »
more progress...

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #7 on: 10/29/2007 04:54 am »
Almost there...


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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #8 on: 10/29/2007 04:56 am »
Final bits...

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #9 on: 10/29/2007 04:58 am »
3 for 3 on the S1 radiators!

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #10 on: 10/29/2007 04:58 am »
Congrats on a good looking deploy!
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #11 on: 10/29/2007 05:06 am »
Yeah, the S1 radiator #1 deploy seemed a bit slow and jerky.  I was on my PDA at the time and wasn't sure if it was buffering probs with the stream, or sequential stills of the deploy or what.  The #3 deploy I watched on my office PC and seemed a lot smoother.

PAO reports the deploys were nominal.  Now, there is some reconfig work left on EVA 3 reagarding the ETCS (undoing the configs done on EVA 2 to allow ground to deploy the radiators, I believe).

.. and I'm gonna get some sleep.  Gotta be up for work in 4 hours, just woke up in time for the deployment :)

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #12 on: 10/29/2007 05:12 am »
Yes, they need to disconnect the squib cables for S1, then connect the P1 squib cables for the subsequent deployment after undocking.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #13 on: 10/29/2007 05:25 am »
Clay's morning DPC song is Green Day's "Time of Your Life".
Dedicated to folks at Huntsville and Marshall.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #14 on: 10/29/2007 05:25 am »
Was that Clay with that great comment on a bye being a win for the Army football team?

By the way... Wouldn't sports priority go to the Red Sox winning the World Series? (Sure would if Suri was still up there)

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #15 on: 10/29/2007 05:28 am »
And hey... Why is Clay up? Isn't he part of the shuttle crew now?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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Was that Clay with that great comment on a bye being a win for the Army football team?

By the way... Wouldn't sports priority go to the Red Sox winning the World Series? (Sure would if Suri was still up there)

That was someone on Discovery.

They already relayed the World Series final earlier to Discovery and Stephanie (to cheers on audio in reply).

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #17 on: 10/29/2007 05:32 am »
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They already relayed the World Series final earlier to Discovery and Stephanie (to cheers on audio in reply).

Missed it... thanks... Forgot Stephanie was also a Sox fan...

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #18 on: 10/29/2007 05:33 am »
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And hey... Why is Clay up? Isn't he part of the shuttle crew now?

He officially is, but I suspect he won't become a practical part of the crew until undocking, because everyone's timeline is so slammed on this mission ISS still needs him more than Discovery does until Dan gets acclimated.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #19 on: 10/29/2007 05:41 am »
Seems the samples collected by Tani are ferrous - they are responding to the magnet.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #20 on: 10/29/2007 05:43 am »
SARJ particles are definitely ferrous (iron) - they had Peggy take a small sample off the tape from yesterday and used a magnet to test them - all of them moved around on a white sheet of paper following a magnet on the other side.

That's not good. Means something metallic is wearing or being ground down.


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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #21 on: 10/29/2007 05:43 am »
MC - "...Like an episode of 'MythBusters.'" LOL   :cool:

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #22 on: 10/29/2007 05:50 am »
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MC - "...Like an episode of 'MythBusters.'" LOL   :cool:

Except the MythBusters have never been into space.  Now that would be an episode!  :laugh:
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #23 on: 10/29/2007 05:59 am »
Robotics ops coming up next - transfer of P6 to SRMS.
Ground will translate the MT during crew off time this morning.
After lunch the handoff back to SSRMS.

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #24 on: 10/29/2007 06:08 am »
Chris, you might like to correct your article.  First paragraph of the SARJ section reads "...shuttle is ready to haul up the JAXA modules in the first half of 2007, via STS-123 and STS-124", surely you mean first half of '08  ;)

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #25 on: 10/29/2007 06:14 am »
Bad PAO... Why cut from cool movement of arm to uncool movement of bag in Quest?

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« Reply #26 on: 10/29/2007 06:15 am »
Now that's cool... Anyone else have Blue Danue Waltz in their head right now?

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #27 on: 10/29/2007 06:20 am »
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--snip--
• P6 Handoff:
o At the end of FD6, SSRMS is based on MBS PDGF3 at WS4 grappled to P6 in the
handoff position. SRMS grapples P6 in the handoff position, and SSRMS releases P6
and maneuvers to a position to view MT translation. Then the MT and SSRMS are
translated to WS8 which is required for P6 installation on P5.
o After the Meal, SSRMS re-grapples P6 in the handoff position and SRMS releases P6
and maneuvers to precradle. P6 remains on the SSRMS in the handoff position
overnight.
o According to the flight rules, P6 should be on the SRMS for as short amount of time as
possible in case of an emergency undock.
--snip--


Does anyone know why the SSRMS doesn't just hold on to the truss during the MT translate (i.e. why handoff to the SRMS at all)?  Is it a clearance issue or is there a prohibition against this?  Seems like a pretty serious limitation for operations when the shuttle is not docked.  Also seems like it would be better based on the flight rule desire to have P6 on the SRMS for as short a time as possible.

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #28 on: 10/29/2007 06:28 am »
Too much mass for the MT to safely move.
Unsafe stress on the SSRMS structures and joints.
That's at least 2 reasons that have been given (probably more I haven't read about yet).

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« Reply #29 on: 10/29/2007 06:33 am »
SSRMS now ready to ungrapple P6 now that SRMS is latched to the truss.

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« Reply #30 on: 10/29/2007 06:34 am »
SRMS now grappled. Waiting for SSRMS to ungrapple. (Clay's having a bit of trouble with one of the Coupola robotic laptops and needs to troubleshoot before continuing).


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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #31 on: 10/29/2007 07:02 am »
SSRMS now ungrappled and backing away from the truss.

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #32 on: 10/29/2007 07:02 am »
I notice in the contents page of the execute package that they appear to have added an inspection of the Port SARJ (unfortunately the details aren't in the published PDF) to tomorrow's EVA.
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MSG 068 --- 10A EVA3 Port SARJ Inspect (pdf – Not Distributed)

Not surprising, really, but I guess that this extra task, and the fact that there were deferred tasks from EVA2, makes the T-RAD test on EVA4 even less likely to actually happen... (not that the crew were very keen to do it in the first place, by all accounts).

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« Reply #33 on: 10/29/2007 07:32 am »
SSRMS being placed in stow position in preparation for Mobile Base Transporter being moved to worksite 8

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #34 on: 10/29/2007 10:10 am »
Any word on the MT translation?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #35 on: 10/29/2007 10:16 am »
I understand it is complete and everything is looking good.
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« Reply #40 on: 10/29/2007 11:34 am »
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Felix, I missed it.  What was snap 01204 a picture of?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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Felix, I missed it.  What was snap 01204 a picture of?

Rack Connecters in Harmony (Power I believe)... ISS crew had some tasks to add some additional cabling and the procedure was unclear..

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dawei - 29/10/2007  8:34 AM

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Felix - 29/10/2007  8:41 PM


Felix, I missed it.  What was snap 01204 a picture of?

Rack Connecters in Harmony (Power I believe)... ISS crew had some tasks to add some additional cabling and the procedure was unclear..


Many thanks.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #43 on: 10/29/2007 12:02 pm »
SSRMS on the move again.. going to take P6 from SRMS :)
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SSRMS on the move again.. going to take P6 from SRMS :)
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #49 on: 10/29/2007 12:24 pm »
So will the segment be bolted on today, or will they hold it out near the end over night like on sts-117?

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« Reply #50 on: 10/29/2007 12:26 pm »
SRMS ungrapple complete.  Go for exercise.

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So will the segment be bolted on today, or will they hold it out near the end over night like on sts-117?

it will be held and then bolted on during tomorrows EVA.. They need visual aids by the spacewalkers to ensure proper alignment for this one.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #53 on: 10/29/2007 12:42 pm »
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MSB up next. Except it to be a SARJ-a-thon.


Can some nice person please post a synopsis of this meeting after it is done so us poor slobs who have to work for a living and can't watch it live can be in the loop??  pretty please?? and thankyou   :)
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #55 on: 10/29/2007 12:43 pm »
Looking forward to hearing what the SARJ-plan will be
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MSB up next. Except it to be a SARJ-a-thon.


Can some nice person please post a synopsis of this meeting after it is done so us poor slobs who have to work for a living and can't watch it live can be in the loop??  pretty please?? and thankyou   :)

I'll do it, although this is work too ;)
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #58 on: 10/29/2007 01:02 pm »
According to Space.com they've added removing a cover from the port SARJ to take a look at it during tomorrow's EVA.

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According the Space.com they've added removing a cover from the port SARJ to take a look at it during tomorrow's EVA.

According to the Execute Plan this morning, which they've cited from, even.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #60 on: 10/29/2007 01:06 pm »

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  Can some nice person please post a synopsis of this meeting after it is done so us poor slobs who have to work for a living and can't watch it live can be in the loop??  pretty please?? and thankyou   :)
 I'll do it, although this is work too ;)

John44 also posted the recording of the meeting:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9130&mid=203867#M203867  


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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #62 on: 10/29/2007 01:11 pm »
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  Can some nice person please post a synopsis of this meeting after it is done so us poor slobs who have to work for a living and can't watch it live can be in the loop??  pretty please?? and thankyou   :)
 I'll do it, although this is work too ;)

John44 also posted the recording of the meeting:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9130&mid=203867#M203867  


I don't see anything there - and I thought the meeting didn't start til 1030am EDT? Doh - I hate it when they change the times on these things :> Since it's not at John's page yet - can you recap?

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MSB isn't for another 20 minutes...so unless John 44 has a time machine....
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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  Can some nice person please post a synopsis of this meeting after it is done so us poor slobs who have to work for a living and can't watch it live can be in the loop??  pretty please?? and thankyou   :)
 I'll do it, although this is work too ;)

John44 also posted the recording of the meeting:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9130&mid=203867#M203867  


I don't see anything there - and I thought the meeting didn't start til 1030am EDT? Doh - I hate it when they change the times on these things :> Since it's not at John's page yet - can you recap?

You are correct, the MSB is @ 10:30am EDT.

The recording on John44's page is from the daily flight director early morning PAO interview.


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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #66 on: 10/29/2007 01:19 pm »
Sorry i thought we talk about yesterdays meeting...too many meetings ;-)

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #69 on: 10/29/2007 01:35 pm »

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LaBrode: We're not tracking any issues on the Shuttle side.
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Confirms the inspection of the other SARJ into EVA-3's timeline. Already had 30 minutes of get ahead tasks (and a config move) to give 40 minutes to allow for this inspection.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #72 on: 10/29/2007 01:38 pm »

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Mike S: All going well.

On SARJ: We discussed at IMMT and MMT later today.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #74 on: 10/29/2007 01:40 pm »

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Mike S describing the elements of the SARJ (as seen in image) in the style of the Retromacabulator video! ;)
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #78 on: 10/29/2007 01:45 pm »
Debris probably not from the covers

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Mike S: "What is out plan?: Have a quick look under one of the covers (on other SARJ). Over several years you would expect that. But life testing didn't expect this much...

"So we'll look on the P1 side to see what is nominal and gleen a lot of information from that. It'll tell you more about the design, more than anomoly. We'll take a sample from P1 even if we don't see anything."
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Mike S: "We'll go after clues to see what's happening."

"Team looking at a number of possibilities. Speculation on my part is to inspect under every panel during EVA-4. Full length. Don't be surprised if we will formally extend the mission by one day."
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"We're discussing another couple of options. If we can replace a trundle bearing to see if we can bring it home. If we can bring home a DLA (either or).

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #85 on: 10/29/2007 01:52 pm »
well, goodbye to the TRAD then.

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Mike S status update is live up to around 30 minutes ago.

Bill Harwood: Asking about TRAD.

Shuttle management to decide the priority, SARJ likely to come above TRAD. Looks like TRAD will go (Good call BSegal yesterday).
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Problem with TRAD is set up time.

Bill H asks more on the contamination. Mike S notes it could be anything as most of the parts are steel.

"This is more than we'd expect at this stage of its life."

Still seem very uncertain as to what it is and where it's from.
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Todd H on P6 relocation, and clearances.

No issues - Mike S.

Todd follows up with "what do you mean by threading the neddle".

"It's just about reaching around and pulling it in. But was much more challenging on P5."
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Frank W (Aviation Week) on determining process of knowing what the contamination is.

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"The parts that ware, are the parts that we can replace."
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"We don't know if it's a misalignment. My personal opinion is we're dealing with something that's rubbing that shouldn't be. Remember this worked perfectly, until recently. We could of been slightly out of alignment and it's just got worse, but the data doesn't back that up, as it seemed to take a little hop (on the amps)." Mike S (Paraphrasing some of that).

"Most of us are expecting that something is just rubbing."
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Mike S kinda avoids.

"We don't think we're in any position we can't recover from."

"We are ok - on power - for Columbus. Atlantis doesn't have SSPTS, so we don't have to provide power there." Also intimates they'll be ok for STS-123.
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So, let's see if I get this right: there are two race rings, but only one is used, so if one is damaged they can always switch to the other? But what happens if whatever is (hypothetically) damaging it also damages the other? It doesn't look so improbable to me...

It seems the only replaceable parts are the trundle bearings and the drive-lock assemblies. Why does he say the only 'damageable' parts are the trundles and the DLAs?
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"We're absolutely booked on ISS work between STS-120 and STS-122." Days off cancelled.

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #96 on: 10/29/2007 02:11 pm »
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"We're absolutely booked on ISS work between STS-120 and STS-122." Days off cancelled.

Might move STS-122 down a day.

well I hope they get overtime pay  ;)

really though that stinks for the ISS crew!

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Trudle bearings are easy to replace (they do have a spare on orbit). DLA's are too, but they don't have a spare (have spares on the ground).
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Mike S expects it to be one day. Still being evaluated. Columbus needs to fly before end of window, so two days of extension isn't clever.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #100 on: 10/29/2007 02:17 pm »
DTO hardware will be left on orbit. DTO to be discussed by MMT on how to carry out a test, as the crew needs to be trained (ISS crew can't do it).
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #101 on: 10/29/2007 02:18 pm »
In one of the earlier flights, one of the astronauts lost a screw when he was removing some launch restraints.

I don't know in which part of the station he was, but couldn't one of those screws or bolts be causing the problem?

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #102 on: 10/29/2007 02:20 pm »
EVA-3 is still planned for Tuesday.
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« Reply #103 on: 10/29/2007 02:21 pm »
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In one of the earlier flights, one of the astronauts lost a screw when he was removing some launch restraints.

I don't know in which part of the station he was, but couldn't one of those screws or bolts be causing the problem?
That was on the port SARJ(STS-115). The SARJ talked about is the starboard SARJ(STS-117).
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #104 on: 10/29/2007 02:21 pm »
Total mission priority is to get P4 up and running, otherwise they can't provide power to Columbua.
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In one of the earlier flights, one of the astronauts lost a screw when he was removing some launch restraints.

I don't know in which part of the station he was, but couldn't one of those screws or bolts be causing the problem?
That was on the port SARJ(STS-115). The SARJ talked about is the starboard SARJ(STS-117).

I thought so, it was Joe Tanner right?

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #106 on: 10/29/2007 02:23 pm »
EVA-4 on the same day. Extra day is to allow day off inbetween EVAs 4 and 5.
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« Reply #107 on: 10/29/2007 02:25 pm »
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So, let's see if I get this right: there are two race rings, but only one is used, so if one is damaged they can always switch to the other? But what happens if whatever is (hypothetically) damaging it also damages the other? It doesn't look so improbable to me...

It seems the only replaceable parts are the trundle bearings and the drive-lock assemblies. Why does he say the only 'damageable' parts are the trundles and the DLAs?

Absolutely. That's why it is critical to figure out what is causing the damage and fix it before switching rings. They would switch if continuing to use the damaged ring would cause more damage even after the fix.

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #108 on: 10/29/2007 02:26 pm »
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EVA-4 on the same day. Extra day is to allow day off inbetween EVAs 4 and 5.
They had a hard cutoff time to end EVA-4 in order to have time to do EVA-5 the next day; by adding the day in between the EVAs, they can handle issues such as a late start to EVA-4, a long EVA-4...those kinds of things...

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« Reply #109 on: 10/29/2007 02:27 pm »
THank you Chris for the running updates. It is very much appreciated.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #110 on: 10/29/2007 02:27 pm »
And the MSB has ended.

A full set of high res images of the contamination going into L2, along with a load of documentation that's just turning up (pre-MMT).
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« Reply #111 on: 10/29/2007 02:27 pm »
"Total mission priority is to get P4 up and running, otherwise they can't provide power to Columbua."

quick correction - should be P6 - P4 is already working.....  ;-)

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« Reply #112 on: 10/29/2007 02:29 pm »
Is there sufficient consumables to do the T-RAD EVA AFTER undocking on the Shuttle - i.e. use the shuttle air lock without station support?  This would allow the station crew to press forward on their tasks and not impact their busy timeline and just bring Discovery home a day later.

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« Reply #113 on: 10/29/2007 02:36 pm »
Can someone look after the updates, as I'm going to be snowed under with L2 for a bit  :o
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« Reply #114 on: 10/29/2007 02:37 pm »
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"Total mission priority is to get P4 up and running, otherwise they can't provide power to Columbua."

quick correction - should be P6 - P4 is already working.....  ;-)

My fingers were hurting by that point ;) Good correction, thanks.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #115 on: 10/29/2007 02:37 pm »
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Is there sufficient consumables to do the T-RAD EVA AFTER undocking on the Shuttle - i.e. use the shuttle air lock without station support?  This would allow the station crew to press forward on their tasks and not impact their busy timeline and just bring Discovery home a day later.

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They don't have the consumables margin to do that plus the required contingency TPC day - it would need 2 extra days after undocking to set up and perform an undocked spacewalk, besides the additional docked ISS day.

Also, there's nothing available in the payload bay to setup a worksite to do that.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #116 on: 10/29/2007 02:39 pm »
I take it they're now starting the maneuver to +XVV attitude?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #117 on: 10/29/2007 02:40 pm »
EVA preps in the airlock

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« Reply #118 on: 10/29/2007 02:44 pm »
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« Reply #119 on: 10/29/2007 02:52 pm »
Room for three additional strips of tape

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In one of the earlier flights, one of the astronauts lost a screw when he was removing some launch restraints.

I don't know in which part of the station he was, but couldn't one of those screws or bolts be causing the problem?
That was on the port SARJ(STS-115). The SARJ talked about is the starboard SARJ(STS-117).

That would be Joe Tanner, right?
But wasn't there another occurrence in a later flight? I think I remember that they compared this later one with what had happened with Joe Tanner.

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Still evaluating confirmation on the power abilities on the JAXA flight (123). Columbus is fine though (apparently someone reported that was under threat as per FD6 thread?)

Florida Today's headline most of yesterday (still in their blog): "Station power problem threatens next mission"

"The current situation raises the stakes for an ongoing bid to move a set of solar wings to the port side of the central truss. It's unlikely NASA could proceed with the launch of Columbus if the stowed wings on the P6 solar array truss cannot be unfurled during a spacewalk scheduled for Tuesday."

http://www.floridatoday.com/floridatoday/blogs/spaceteam/2007/10/live-in-orbit-power-problem-threatens.html

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« Reply #122 on: 10/29/2007 03:00 pm »
Discovery and P6

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I am assuming that this tape doesn't leave a residue that will make matters worse with friction - ala duct tape that leaves lots of adhesive behind when removed.  

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« Reply #124 on: 10/29/2007 03:11 pm »
P6 (from Shuttle payload bay)

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« Reply #125 on: 10/29/2007 03:13 pm »
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Columbus is fine though (apparently someone reported that was under threat as per FD6 thread?)
As Suffredini reiterated during's today's press conference, Columbus should be fine to dock, however he said yesterday that it was still not known if there would be enough power available without a functioning starboard SARJ to support Columbus' science payloads.  

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[Quoting Florida Today] "It's unlikely NASA could proceed with the launch of Columbus if the stowed wings on the P6 solar array truss cannot be unfurled during a spacewalk scheduled for Tuesday."

Suffredini confirmed this yesterday.

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That would be Joe Tanner, right? But wasn't there another occurrence in a later flight? I think I remember that they compared this later one with what had happened with Joe Tanner.

Yes, and it seems to me that someone else on 115 did as well.  I also seem to recall that another bolt was lost later in the year, but again that would have been on the port side. 

Really doesn't matter one way or the other though. 

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I am assuming that this tape doesn't leave a residue that will make matters worse with friction - ala duct tape that leaves lots of adhesive behind when removed.  

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If you check the diagram, where he found the residue doesn't appear to be part of the mechanical operation "hot zone"

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Suffredini confirmed this yesterday.

He confirmed what? I don't think the P6 deploy is in any way connected to debris on the SARJ and impacts on Columbus?

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Suffredini confirmed this yesterday.

He confirmed what? I don't think the P6 deploy is in any way connected to debris on the SARJ and impacts on Columbus?

Yesterday someone answered my question about the SARJ being a show-stopper by pointing out that a deployed P6 will greatly relax the power constraints on the ISS for the 122 mission.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #130 on: 10/29/2007 03:19 pm »
I know Harmony has been attached for a couple of days so forgive my lateness, but I just think it is cool that all 6 ports of Unity are occupied even if only temporarily. :)

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« Reply #131 on: 10/29/2007 03:22 pm »
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He confirmed what? I don't think the P6 deploy is in any way connected to debris on the SARJ and impacts on Columbus?

He said that if for some reason P6 cannot be deployed, then it would be difficult, if not impossible to support Columbus without a functioning SARJ.

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« Reply #132 on: 10/29/2007 03:27 pm »
Yeah but Robert, what about the things you cover. Will there be enough power for Luke Skywalker's light saber! :o ;)

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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He said that if for some reason P6 cannot be deployed, then it would be difficult, if not impossible to support Columbus without a functioning SARJ.

I guess I hardly consider P6 deploy concerns to be a "threat" but I guess wording is all in the eye of the author :>

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Columbus is fine though (apparently someone reported that was under threat as per FD6 thread?)
As Suffredini reiterated during's today's press conference, Columbus should be fine to dock, however he said yesterday that it was still not known if there would be enough power available without a functioning starboard SARJ to support Columbus' science payloads.  

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[Quoting Florida Today] "It's unlikely NASA could proceed with the launch of Columbus if the stowed wings on the P6 solar array truss cannot be unfurled during a spacewalk scheduled for Tuesday."

Suffredini confirmed this yesterday.

Ah, without successful P6 deploy. Yeah, that'd make things "sporty" in the words of John Young. Thanking you.
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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He said that if for some reason P6 cannot be deployed, then it would be difficult, if not impossible to support Columbus without a functioning SARJ.

I guess I hardly consider P6 deploy concerns to be a "threat" but I guess wording is all in the eye of the author :>
It's because they're going to be short on power with only P4 arrays providing power. So essentially, they're back in 12A stage(P4 arrays deployed but not providing power and P6 is only arrays providing power) seen from a power perspective.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #136 on: 10/29/2007 03:39 pm »
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Will there be enough power for Luke Skywalker's light saber! :o ;)
Well, as George Lucas said of the lightsaber in our article, "I did make sure to tell them not to turn the lightsaber on up there." :)

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« Reply #137 on: 10/29/2007 03:48 pm »
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« Reply #140 on: 10/29/2007 03:55 pm »
Flying through thre russian part of the station

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
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He said that if for some reason P6 cannot be deployed, then it would be difficult, if not impossible to support Columbus without a functioning SARJ.

I guess I hardly consider P6 deploy concerns to be a "threat" but I guess wording is all in the eye of the author :>
It's because they're going to be short on power with only P4 arrays providing power. So essentially, they're back in 12A stage(P4 arrays deployed but not providing power and P6 is only arrays providing power) seen from a power perspective.

Not quite that bad, my guess is that without SARJ auto-tracking they may only get 30 - 50% of max power out of S4, but that is still a lot better than 0%.  They may also be able to do a little waggling of the Staion with the CMG's to improve orientation and increase that percentage. You also can still pivot the indidual arrays around their axis, so they are not completely fixed.

How much power could the consistently get out of P6 when it was on top of the station without a SARJ to help it autotrack?  That's what this situation may be like with a frozen SARJ.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #146 on: 10/29/2007 04:40 pm »
Wow, the complex is flying with Discovery's TPS in the direction of flight... isn't that risky? (MMOD hits, etc...)

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Wow, the complex is flying with Discovery's TPS in the direction of flight... isn't that risky? (MMOD hits, etc...)
That used to be the standard docked attitude prior to RTF. Now they swing the entire complex around 180°s to protect the orbiter TPS.
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« Reply #148 on: 10/29/2007 04:45 pm »
PAO event starting

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #150 on: 10/29/2007 04:49 pm »
beat me to it.  Harmony is nice and clean, for now...

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« Reply #151 on: 10/29/2007 05:02 pm »
Choas in Node 2 ;-)

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« Reply #154 on: 10/29/2007 05:16 pm »
I missed it.  The conversation that's playing now... is this a replay?  Or are they talking about it right now?
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« Reply #155 on: 10/29/2007 05:23 pm »
talking live about SARJ flakes

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« Reply #156 on: 10/29/2007 05:24 pm »
The shots of Harmony above remind me a lot of the Skylab footage with various astronauts literally running around. It's a shame that Node 2 will soon be sluttered up - a necessary evil, but I sure miss the days when people had a lot of empty space to goof around in. :)

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« Reply #157 on: 10/29/2007 05:24 pm »
Peggy and Dan did another magnet test. A piece of a bigger flake was magnetic, as well as the finer particles.

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« Reply #158 on: 10/29/2007 05:36 pm »

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C'mon man- True Star Wars fans know that lightsabers are run on crystals customized and specially chosen by Jedis and Sith Lords alike. :bleh:


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Is John44 going to get this morning's briefing uploaded before he turns in for the night (in Europe)?  Been itching for it all day.
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Is John44 going to get this morning's briefing uploaded before he turns in for the night (in Europe)?  Been itching for it all day.

John's probably resting up for tomorrow's EVA  ;)

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #161 on: 10/29/2007 06:19 pm »
It's the extra day i orbit and the remake of EVA4 official yet? If not, how big is the chance it will happen?
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It's the extra day i orbit and the remake of EVA4 official yet? If not, how big is the chance it will happen?
Mike S noted it was ISS that want it, but has to go to the MMT.

As soon as we get word, I'll note it (and go with the article). It's highly likely to be the case, but not official until the MMT say so.
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The shots of Harmony above remind me a lot of the Skylab footage with various astronauts literally running around. It's a shame that Node 2 will soon be sluttered up - a necessary evil, but I sure miss the days when people had a lot of empty space to goof around in. :)

Problem is, the more space you have, the easier it is to get stuck outside the reach of any sort of handhold; this is even a problem on the vomit comet!

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #164 on: 10/29/2007 06:24 pm »
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Is John44 going to get this morning's briefing uploaded before he turns in for the night (in Europe)?

It's there - http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2981&Itemid=1

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #165 on: 10/29/2007 06:30 pm »
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It's the extra day i orbit and the remake of EVA4 official yet? If not, how big is the chance it will happen?
Mike S noted it was ISS that want it, but has to go to the MMT.

As soon as we get word, I'll note it (and go with the article). It's highly likely to be the case, but not official until the MMT say so.

Ok, Thanks! Some idea of when a decision from the MMT will come?
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #166 on: 10/29/2007 06:34 pm »
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It's the extra day i orbit and the remake of EVA4 official yet? If not, how big is the chance it will happen?
Mike S noted it was ISS that want it, but has to go to the MMT.

As soon as we get word, I'll note it (and go with the article). It's highly likely to be the case, but not official until the MMT say so.

Ok, Thanks! Some idea of when a decision from the MMT will come?

Very soon. I think it's already ended, but not sure (my John Shannon Helmetcam isn't working due to lack of KU ;) )
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #167 on: 10/29/2007 06:34 pm »
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The shots of Harmony above remind me a lot of the Skylab footage with various astronauts literally running around. It's a shame that Node 2 will soon be sluttered up - a necessary evil, but I sure miss the days when people had a lot of empty space to goof around in. :)

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It´s at big different between the footage of Node2 and when NTV switch over to a another part of the station ;). So clean and the next second a place that´s is more filled with stuff an my place ;).
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #168 on: 10/29/2007 06:35 pm »
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The shots of Harmony above remind me a lot of the Skylab footage with various astronauts literally running around. It's a shame that Node 2 will soon be sluttered up - a necessary evil, but I sure miss the days when people had a lot of empty space to goof around in. :)

Mark

It´s at big different between the footage of Node2 and when NTV switch over to a another part of the station ;). So clean and the next second a place that´s is more filled with stuff an my place ;).
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #169 on: 10/29/2007 06:37 pm »
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Is John44 going to get this morning's briefing uploaded before he turns in for the night (in Europe)?

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It's there - http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2981&Itemid=1


Thanks rdale!

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« Reply #170 on: 10/29/2007 06:39 pm »
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Martin FL - 29/10/2007 9:27 AM Yeah but Robert, what about the things you cover. Will there be enough power for Luke Skywalker's light saber! :o ;)

C'mon man- True Star Wars fans know that lightsabers are run on crystals customized and specially chosen by Jedis and Sith Lords alike. :bleh:

You have to build them yourself. Listen to the radio version of Star Wars.

Was Lucas given something like a "Von Braun Media Award" from NASA ? At least he was mentioned as being given an award at some kind of Von Braun dinner ... so they said on NASA TV. This Light Sabre thing makes a lot more sense if he was. Anyway .. carry on.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #171 on: 10/29/2007 06:39 pm »
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Very soon. I think it's already ended, but not sure (my John Shannon Helmetcam isn't working due to lack of KU ;) )

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #172 on: 10/29/2007 06:46 pm »
Tony Antonelli just called up that the shuttle MMT is still meeting, but that they have confirmed the full duration EVA-4 and adding the docked day between EVA-4 and 5.  The content of EVA-4 is still TBD...

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #173 on: 10/29/2007 06:46 pm »
MMT still in progress, but go given for extra day between EVA 4 and 5, according to capcom.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #174 on: 10/29/2007 07:05 pm »
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Tony Antonelli just called up that the shuttle MMT is still meeting, but that they have confirmed the full duration EVA-4 and adding the docked day between EVA-4 and 5.  The content of EVA-4 is still TBD...

Cool.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #175 on: 10/29/2007 07:11 pm »
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Was Lucas given something like a "Von Braun Media Award" from NASA?
Lucas was awarded the National Space Club's media award during the annual Dr. Wernher von Braun Memorial Dinner held in Huntsville, Alabama. Mike Griffin was the dinner's featured speaker.

Unfortunately Lucas couldn't attend to accept his award in-person as he was in Florida for the launch of STS-120.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #176 on: 10/29/2007 07:29 pm »
PAO just confirmed that EVA-4 will be dedicated to SARJ and T-RAD will be removed from tasks on this flight.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #177 on: 10/29/2007 07:30 pm »
What will the time for the undockning and landing be?
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #178 on: 10/29/2007 07:44 pm »
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What will the time for the undockning and landing be?
They should move to the right by about 24 hours (undocking "early" on 5 Nov, landing "early" on 7 Nov -- early U.S. East Coast time), but not sure about specific times.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #179 on: 10/29/2007 07:58 pm »
Chris, where did you get that image from in the article?? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5269 it's awesome.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #180 on: 10/29/2007 07:58 pm »
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What will the time for the undockning and landing be?
They should move to the right by about 24 hours (undocking "early" on 5 Nov, landing "early" on 7 Nov -- early U.S. East Coast time), but not sure about specific times.

CBS Space News says 0338 EST Wednesday

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #181 on: 10/29/2007 08:01 pm »
will there be a post-MMT status briefing today?

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #182 on: 10/29/2007 08:02 pm »
For the statistics:

With the extra day, STS-120 will be the longest station flight so far and the longest flight for Discovery.

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #183 on: 10/29/2007 08:03 pm »
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Chris, where did you get that image from in the article?? http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5269 it's awesome.

We are very lucky to get a number of unreleased hi res mission images, which are exclusely 'stictched' into panoramics and mosiacs for L2. The one you see there is the cropped middle part of one that is a stunning 19mb image, one where at full size the D of discovery is bigger than the whole of your screen! We do the same with the RPM images (we now have the full set).

Still writing up that article by the way. Info coming in all the time and want to get most of it in before finishing it.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #184 on: 10/29/2007 08:04 pm »
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will there be a post-MMT status briefing today?

It's not in the timeline from what I've seen.
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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #185 on: 10/29/2007 08:08 pm »
Leroy's post-MMT visit yesterday wasn't on the timeline either - so just stay tuned!

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Re: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #186 on: 10/29/2007 08:49 pm »
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...so just stay tuned!
Per JSC PAO, there will not be a post-MMT status briefing today. There will however, be an ISS Flight Director update later tonight...

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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #187 on: 10/30/2007 01:21 am »
Ok, let's start Flight Day 8 now. Going to be a biiiiig day!
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RE: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 7 - P6 Handoff and Off-Duty
« Reply #188 on: 11/03/2007 08:00 pm »
Bump and Lock. Realignment of Flight Day threads into order.

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