Author Topic: LIVE: STS-120 Flight Day 2 - Inspection Day (Read 66377 times)

Chris Bergin · « **on:** 10/24/2007 06:28 am »

Flight Day 2 coverage of STS-120.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5263

Adding Flight Plan slides for FD2 and mission overview for the day.

• PROP Post Sleep Activities: OMS Pod B Heater Reconfig is highly desired prior to NC2.
This allows enough time on the B heaters prior to Rndz. RCS Reg Reconfig is also
scheduled prior to NC2 to keep all the Prop actions together.
• RNDZ Burns: NC2 and NC3 rendezvous burns are planned to allow adequate time for
OBSS surveys.
• P/TV01 Setup: Time is allotted for completion of these setups if required.
• TPS Surveys:
o All RCC is inspected during the OBSS Starboard Wing, Nose Cap, and Port Wing
surveys. The two wing surveys also cover most of areas of the crew cabin. The OMS
pod is inspected using a handheld camera to take pictures from the aft flight deck
windows.

• EVA Preps: Two EMUs are checked out and the EMUs and other EVA tools are prepared
for transfer to ISS. A Safer is also checked out which is transferred to ISS as a spare.
• Rendezvous Prep Activities: Centerline Camera Install and ODS Ring Extension cannot
occur during OBSS surveys due to a camera view constraint and is thus scheduled after
OBSS Berth. Centerline Camera Install must occur before ODS Ring Extension. Rndz Tools
Checkout must be decoupled with the surveys because the surveys require RSAD and
DOUG on the PGSCs while the Rndz Tools Checkout requires RPOP.

• Transfer: MS3 performs Transfer Prep after EVA Transfer Prep is complete.
• CWC Setup: CWC fill hardware is set up for CWC fills post docking. The first CWC fill is not
scheduled until FD4.
• Generic Activities: CRYO O2 Sensor Ck, Water Spray Boiler (WSB) Controller Swap, FC
Manual Purge, FC Monitoring, Ergometer Setup, and Filter Cleaning are performed. FCMS
ops must be decoupled with SRMS ops and Rndz Tools Checkout due to PGSC limitations.
• Secondary Payloads/SDBIs/DTOs/SDTOs:

• Maneuvers: Prior to crew sleep, the CDR future loads the maneuver for the FD3 waste
water dump. The maneuver starts just after crew wakeup on FD3.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #1 on:** 10/24/2007 06:31 am »

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fburnell - 24/10/2007 6:58 AM

Flight Day 2 has started and the execute package is already available at http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/193985main_fd02exec.pdf

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #2 on:** 10/24/2007 06:34 am »

New MCC shift has just started.

Crew being asked to send more imagary down, though a camera is not downloading.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #3 on:** 10/24/2007 06:41 am »

Crew was awoken at 6:39am UTC. Didn't catch the wake up song.

Crew is currently in post sleep.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #4 on:** 10/24/2007 07:17 am »

Wake up music on the ISS. Something weird! "The Whippet Song" by Divo.

Clay's up to his tricks again, accoring to Whitson.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #5 on:** 10/24/2007 07:19 am »

Heh, Clay's pretending to a radio DJ, dedicating stuff to the first dual female commanders, and said he's a bit worried about them having a light sabre.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #6 on:** 10/24/2007 07:44 am »

RMS off to pick up the OBSS

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #7 on:** 10/24/2007 08:06 am »

Moving towards the start of inspections after the NC-2 Burn. Crew still in post sleep.

DaveS · « **Reply #8 on:** 10/24/2007 08:52 am »

NC-2 burn complete, no trim required.

Zachstar · « **Reply #9 on:** 10/24/2007 09:00 am »

Inside the flight deck.

Felix · « **Reply #10 on:** 10/24/2007 09:01 am »

Zachstar · « **Reply #11 on:** 10/24/2007 09:18 am »

OBSS Latched.

Zachstar · « **Reply #12 on:** 10/24/2007 09:29 am »

Another view.

Felix · « **Reply #13 on:** 10/24/2007 09:29 am »

Replay of payload bay door opening

Zachstar · « **Reply #14 on:** 10/24/2007 09:32 am »

Its blurry but this is the payload bay door open video.

Images

Zachstar · « **Reply #15 on:** 10/24/2007 09:33 am »

AstroRJY · « **Reply #16 on:** 10/24/2007 09:33 am »

Some really spectauclar launch photos on the NASA KSC Media page:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm

Zachstar · « **Reply #17 on:** 10/24/2007 09:33 am »

Zachstar · « **Reply #18 on:** 10/24/2007 09:34 am »

More.

Zachstar · « **Reply #19 on:** 10/24/2007 09:37 am »

Finally got the high res stream playing again.

Image

Zachstar · « **Reply #20 on:** 10/24/2007 09:39 am »

OBSS being lifted out.

Zachstar · « **Reply #21 on:** 10/24/2007 09:40 am »

No Ku

Only s-band stills.

Felix · « **Reply #22 on:** 10/24/2007 09:44 am »

Zachstar · « **Reply #23 on:** 10/24/2007 09:46 am »

More views of the arm.

Zachstar · « **Reply #24 on:** 10/24/2007 09:56 am »

View of current position of arm.

charlieb · « **Reply #25 on:** 10/24/2007 10:01 am »

Thanks for the summary of the day ahead Chris... This will be looked upon as an easy day compared to what lies ahead (a 'Wild Ride' as described by some).......

Zachstar · « **Reply #26 on:** 10/24/2007 10:13 am »

Zachstar · « **Reply #27 on:** 10/24/2007 10:27 am »

Starting to get video.

Zachstar · « **Reply #28 on:** 10/24/2007 10:38 am »

Position of the arm so far.

Zachstar · « **Reply #29 on:** 10/24/2007 10:53 am »

Zachstar · « **Reply #30 on:** 10/24/2007 11:11 am »

Continues.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #31 on:** 10/24/2007 11:14 am »

On L2's Internal feed, they've spotted a protruding gap filler already.

stockman · « **Reply #32 on:** 10/24/2007 11:15 am »

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Zachstar - 24/10/2007 6:53 AM

Is that a possible chip out of a tile right at the edge where the tile meets the leading edge panel? right dead centre of the image. Or is it just plasma burns like some of the other tiles and merely a trick of light from this angle?

Zachstar · « **Reply #33 on:** 10/24/2007 11:40 am »

View of the arm. Moving

Zachstar · « **Reply #34 on:** 10/24/2007 11:41 am »

VERY nice image of the node and arm. Camera in the payload bay.

Zachstar · « **Reply #35 on:** 10/24/2007 11:43 am »

Sunset!

Zachstar · « **Reply #36 on:** 10/24/2007 11:47 am »

Sunset images.

Zachstar · « **Reply #37 on:** 10/24/2007 11:54 am »

Current position of the arm.

Zachstar · « **Reply #38 on:** 10/24/2007 11:59 am »

Clay (nuff said)

Zachstar · « **Reply #39 on:** 10/24/2007 12:19 pm »

Current Orbit (As of this post)

Zachstar · « **Reply #40 on:** 10/24/2007 12:36 pm »

Ku again.

View of earth and some RCC from the OBSS.

Nose Cap next.

Zachstar · « **Reply #41 on:** 10/24/2007 12:45 pm »

Arm moving.

Zachstar · « **Reply #42 on:** 10/24/2007 12:48 pm »

RCS Jets

Edit: And the nose cap coming into view.

JimO · « **Reply #43 on:** 10/24/2007 12:58 pm »

Can anybody run a quick where-were-they-then? on ISS and Discovery at the time of the Chinese moon probe launch from Xichang, 10:05 GMT this morning? Any chance the crews might have had a chance to see anything?

DaveS · « **Reply #44 on:** 10/24/2007 12:59 pm »

LDRI view of nosecap and HRSI tiles:

DaveS · « **Reply #45 on:** 10/24/2007 01:01 pm »

Weird black dot in lower center of images. Edit: Seems like it is a speck of dust on the LDRI lens.

DaveS · « **Reply #46 on:** 10/24/2007 01:03 pm »

LDRI/ITVC shadow on the the nosecap:

Zachstar · « **Reply #47 on:** 10/24/2007 01:21 pm »

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JimO - 24/10/2007 7:58 AM

Can anybody run a quick where-were-they-then? on ISS and Discovery at the time of the Chinese moon probe launch from Xichang, 10:05 GMT this morning? Any chance the crews might have had a chance to see anything?

Here

triddirt · « **Reply #48 on:** 10/24/2007 01:33 pm »

Lighthearted banter from Clay Anderson on ISS... He certainly has been an entertaining crew member..

Zachstar · « **Reply #49 on:** 10/24/2007 01:39 pm »

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triddirt - 24/10/2007 8:33 AM

Lighthearted banter from Clay Anderson on ISS... He certainly has been an entertaining crew member..

Agreed!

Voice of NASA Indeed!

Felix · « **Reply #50 on:** 10/24/2007 01:42 pm »

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JimO - 24/10/2007 2:58 PM Can anybody run a quick where-were-they-then? on ISS and Discovery at the time of the Chinese moon probe launch from Xichang, 10:05 GMT this morning? Any chance the crews might have had a chance to see anything?

Mark Max Q · « **Reply #51 on:** 10/24/2007 02:27 pm »

That wouldn't be close enough, right?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #52 on:** 10/24/2007 02:35 pm »

Obviously, they need to check over everything on the ground, but on the internal loops, only that one gap filler on the wing is noted so far (protruding, but very little as per image we got on L2).

No "ROIs" (Regions Of Interest) that have immediately been noticed. They'll eventually find up to 100 of these, before they tick them off.

So, all good on that score.

Paul Adams · « **Reply #53 on:** 10/24/2007 02:39 pm »

Question: did one of the WB-57 aircraft cover the launch yesterday? I was at Ellington Field yesterday, but it was too windy to fly, and one landed just after 12:00 local. I could not see if it had the camera 'nose' fitted as it was on the other side of the airfield.

Anyone know?

DaveS · « **Reply #54 on:** 10/24/2007 02:45 pm »

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Paul Adams - 24/10/2007 4:39 PM

Question: did one of the WB-57 aircraft cover the launch yesterday? I was at Ellington Field yesterday, but it was too windy to fly, and one landed just after 12:00 local. I could not see if it had the camera 'nose' fitted as it was on the other side of the airfield.

Anyone know?

As far as I know, the use of the WB-57's for launch imagery has been discontinued on cost reasons.

DaveS · « **Reply #55 on:** 10/24/2007 02:59 pm »

Orbit 1 to Orbit 2 handover in the Shuttle FCR has been completed.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #56 on:** 10/24/2007 02:59 pm »

Handover to Orbit 2.

Currently scanning the port wing.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #57 on:** 10/24/2007 03:04 pm »

MSB in 30 minutes.

As per L2: They'll likely show the gap filler. The debris strike about 150 seconds into ascent. ET photography (tank looks reasonably clean, bar one area of big interest). The ice that did fall off at SSME ignition. Off Scale High SSME 1 during ascent (3 mins in) came back later, SSME was fine throughout. Same with an MPS sensor.

Not sure they'll say anything about the plume seen during first stage that appears to be venting from the tank (but likely isn't), and could be nothing, thus won't be mentioned.

I think that's everything on current status.

JimO · « **Reply #58 on:** 10/24/2007 03:14 pm »

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Mark Max Q - 24/10/2007 9:27 AM

That wouldn't be close enough, right?

wow, it sure WOULD have been, especially as the second stage rose above the atmosphere headed due East. Discovery would have passed only a few hundred miles in front of it -- and somewhat above it.

rdale · « **Reply #59 on:** 10/24/2007 03:16 pm »

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Paul Adams - 24/10/2007 10:39 AM

Question: did one of the WB-57 aircraft cover the launch yesterday? I was at Ellington Field yesterday, but it was too windy to fly, and one landed just after 12:00 local.

No - just out flying over the Gulf

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NASA926

Joffan · « **Reply #60 on:** 10/24/2007 03:22 pm »

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Felix - 24/10/2007 7:42 AM

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JimO - 24/10/2007 2:58 PM Can anybody run a quick where-were-they-then? on ISS and Discovery at the time of the Chinese moon probe launch from Xichang, 10:05 GMT this morning? Any chance the crews might have had a chance to see anything?

Nice map Felix... are the regions marked, around STS120 and ISS, the horizon from each? If so, it looks like the ISS could have a viewline to the lauch and the orbiter might have been able to glimpse the LV halfway through ascent; depending on whether the exhaust plume is bright enough to be spotted from such a distance.

Felix · « **Reply #61 on:** 10/24/2007 03:30 pm »

Mission Status Briefing

"Everything is going extremely well"

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #62 on:** 10/24/2007 03:34 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 4:04 PM

As per L2: They'll likely show the gap filler. The debris strike about 150 seconds into ascent. ET photography (tank looks reasonably clean, bar one area of big interest). The ice that did fall off at SSME ignition. Off Scale High SSME 1 during ascent (3 mins in) came back later, SSME was fine throughout. Same with an MPS sensor.

Not sure they'll say anything about the plume seen during first stage that appears to be venting from the tank (but likely isn't), and could be nothing, thus won't be mentioned.

I think that's everything on current status.

Bit of a round up:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5263

ApolloLee · « **Reply #63 on:** 10/24/2007 03:36 pm »

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DaveS - 24/10/2007 6:01 AM

Weird black dot in lower center of images. Edit: Seems like it is a speck of dust on the LDRI lens.

I'm ready for the Ivins question during the press conference on whether the speck of dust on the lens threatens the safety of the astronauts and whether they will need an emergency spacewalk to remove it.....

Launch Fan · « **Reply #64 on:** 10/24/2007 03:43 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 10:04 AM

MSB in 30 minutes.

As per L2: They'll likely show the gap filler. The debris strike about 150 seconds into ascent. ET photography (tank looks reasonably clean, bar one area of big interest). The ice that did fall off at SSME ignition. Off Scale High SSME 1 during ascent (3 mins in) came back later, SSME was fine throughout. Same with an MPS sensor.

Not sure they'll say anything about the plume seen during first stage that appears to be venting from the tank (but likely isn't), and could be nothing, thus won't be mentioned.

I think that's everything on current status.

Or maybe they won't!

Paul Adams · « **Reply #65 on:** 10/24/2007 03:45 pm »

Thanks R Dale. It's been very intersting being at Ellington again after a couple of years. The Super-Guppy is here and several T38's have come and gone. On appraoch into the field (we fly a course staying clear of the approaches) I flew slowly over the actual space center and noted a lifting body and several mock-up sections of a shuttle payload bay stored in the open outside. I will post photos in a different thread later.

Paul

Felix · « **Reply #66 on:** 10/24/2007 03:47 pm »

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Joffan - 24/10/2007 5:22 PM
are the regions marked, around STS120 and ISS, the horizon from each?

Yes...and the marks on the tracks are the predicted positions (in minutes)

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #67 on:** 10/24/2007 03:47 pm »

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Launch Fan - 24/10/2007 4:43 PM

Or maybe they won't!

He did kinda mention that debris strike, but like I've written, it was well after SRB sep, so it wouldn't have the dangerous velocity (no air).

Felix · « **Reply #68 on:** 10/24/2007 03:47 pm »

Felix · « **Reply #69 on:** 10/24/2007 03:48 pm »

Felix · « **Reply #70 on:** 10/24/2007 03:50 pm »

Felix · « **Reply #71 on:** 10/24/2007 04:05 pm »

Clay Anderson

triddirt · « **Reply #72 on:** 10/24/2007 04:23 pm »

Aww... Missed the end of the Worm Update from ISS...

Rob in KC · « **Reply #73 on:** 10/24/2007 04:24 pm »

Whoa, what happened with NASA TV then. Went all freaky with green and blue flashing lines!

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #74 on:** 10/24/2007 04:26 pm »

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Rob in KC - 24/10/2007 5:24 PM

Whoa, what happened with NASA TV then. Went all freaky with green and blue flashing lines!

Not sure! I thought I had a Commodore 64 waiting to load. Almost went looking for shift+run stop

(Showing my age there!).

Not sure if it was anything to do with the earlier OCA Troubleshooting.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #75 on:** 10/24/2007 04:27 pm »

Discovery 1,400 miles behind the ISS.

Zachstar · « **Reply #76 on:** 10/24/2007 04:32 pm »

Fixture on the side of the payload bay.

Zachstar · « **Reply #77 on:** 10/24/2007 04:35 pm »

OBSS being moved into position.

Zachstar · « **Reply #78 on:** 10/24/2007 04:40 pm »

Berthing.

Zachstar · « **Reply #79 on:** 10/24/2007 04:41 pm »

Y error they are gonna get it out and try again.

Zachstar · « **Reply #80 on:** 10/24/2007 04:43 pm »

View from the other side.

Zachstar · « **Reply #81 on:** 10/24/2007 04:44 pm »

Reberthing of the OBSS

Zachstar · « **Reply #82 on:** 10/24/2007 04:45 pm »

ApolloLee · « **Reply #83 on:** 10/24/2007 05:23 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 9:26 AM

Not sure! I thought I had a Commodore 64 waiting to load. Almost went looking for shift+run stop (Showing my age there!).

Not sure if it was anything to do with the earlier OCA Troubleshooting.

Not to get off-topic but I have fond memories of my Commie 64... Remember that great Space Station game? I think Activision made it...

Super George · « **Reply #84 on:** 10/24/2007 05:29 pm »

When is the post MMT briefing due?

Zachstar · « **Reply #85 on:** 10/24/2007 05:30 pm »

View from the Aft payload bay (OBSS & Node 2)

DaveS · « **Reply #86 on:** 10/24/2007 05:35 pm »

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Super George - 24/10/2007 7:29 PM

When is the post MMT briefing due?

All TV schedule questions can be answered here(bookmark it as the URL never changes between missions): http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/mission_schedule.html

DaveS · « **Reply #87 on:** 10/24/2007 05:38 pm »

Seems like Houston has put Pambo on "fuel cell monitoring" duty. FC2 is acting up and they're trying to find a working circuit breaker for it.

Zachstar · « **Reply #88 on:** 10/24/2007 05:44 pm »

Shuttle Attitude and Next Event.

charlieb · « **Reply #89 on:** 10/24/2007 05:45 pm »

Is FC2 showing the same sort of funny volt/amperage signatures that was noted and reported here during pre-launch?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #90 on:** 10/24/2007 05:46 pm »

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DaveS - 24/10/2007 6:38 PM

Seems like Houston has put Pambo on "fuel cell monitoring" duty. FC2 is acting up and they're trying to find a working circuit breaker for it.

I missed it Dave...is it the same transient motor speed issue as was observed pre-launch?

kimmern123 · « **Reply #91 on:** 10/24/2007 05:57 pm »

I didn't get it all, but it sounded like there are some bad cables or connections somewhere as the display was constantly switching between something like "Receiveing" and then "Not receiving". Again I just caught parts of it.

Could this be a serious issue?

charlieb · « **Reply #92 on:** 10/24/2007 06:10 pm »

What display are you speaking of?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #93 on:** 10/24/2007 06:14 pm »

I was confused by this, because - as Kim mentioned - there were references to cables and then to FC2, displays and receiving/not receiving etc. All didn't make any sense.

I've sent some e-mails off (sources were mostly in earlier) but know some more people to ask. Certainly does not sound related to the pre-launch transient.

charlieb · « **Reply #94 on:** 10/24/2007 06:24 pm »

Well let's X the fingers there is not a looming problem with FC2. We know what the flt rules dictate in regards to a bum-fuel cell...

steve_slitheen · « **Reply #95 on:** 10/24/2007 06:30 pm »

Err, no, what do they say? I'm guessing they're not allowed to say up there. Not even 'get to station and hook up the power transfer system'?

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charlieb - 24/10/2007 7:24 PM

Well let's X the fingers there is not a looming problem with FC2. We know what the flt rules dictate in regards to a bum-fuel cell...

DaveS · « **Reply #96 on:** 10/24/2007 06:36 pm »

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steve_slitheen - 24/10/2007 8:30 PM

Err, no, what do they say? I'm guessing they're not allowed to say up there. Not even 'get to station and hook up the power transfer system'?

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charlieb - 24/10/2007 7:24 PM

Well let's X the fingers there is not a looming problem with FC2. We know what the flt rules dictate in regards to a bum-fuel cell...

SSPTS or no SSPTS, a bad fuel cell always call for MDF since you then have voted "no confidence" in the other two and they can fail any minute now.

triddirt · « **Reply #97 on:** 10/24/2007 06:41 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 2:14 PM

I was confused by this, because - as Kim mentioned - there were references to cables and then to FC2, displays and receiving/not receiving etc. All didn't make any sense.

I've sent some e-mails off (sources were mostly in earlier) but know some more people to ask. Certainly does not sound related to the pre-launch transient.

For what it's worth.. My sense was that the cables set up issues etc were to provide additional telemetry (Fuel Cell Monitoring software through Windecom) to the FC2 to the ground.. I didn't get the sense that there was anything critical that was being monitored this way but would be additional info... You'd think that critical FC2 telemetry would be provided through hardwire not through something that the crew is connecting.. Also Chris did not note anything from L2 which I'm thinking he'd have done if there was something serious going on.

ChrisC · « **Reply #98 on:** 10/24/2007 06:43 pm »

If anyone hears that the post-MMT briefing gets moved up, as may happen if they finish early, please post here and let us know. I need to make a decision about whether to do an hour of work away from NASA TV before 6pm or after 6pm ... Thanks!

Jorge · « **Reply #99 on:** 10/24/2007 06:46 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 1:14 PM

I was confused by this, because - as Kim mentioned - there were references to cables and then to FC2, displays and receiving/not receiving etc. All didn't make any sense.

I've sent some e-mails off (sources were mostly in earlier) but know some more people to ask. Certainly does not sound related to the pre-launch transient.

The fuel cell monitoring program is a PGSC application that runs on an A31p laptop. It receives fuel cell data from a program called WinDECOM running on the same laptop. WinDECOM, in turn, receives the data from the orbiter via a cable to the PCMMU on panel O5.

Felix · « **Reply #100 on:** 10/24/2007 06:47 pm »

charlieb · « **Reply #101 on:** 10/24/2007 06:51 pm »

May be something to do with Fuel Cell Contingency Startup procedures.. They might be thinking ahead for that sort of thing...

FUEL CELL CONTINGENCY POWERUP
PURPOSE
To describe the fuel cell contingency powerup procedures in the STS Flight Data File
(FDF) and the failures that would result in the use of the procedures. This procedure
will be executed per Flight Rule 9-41, Preflight Test Bus Management.

DISCUSSION
Some failures exist that can cause loss of AC power to the fuel cell H2/water separator
and coolant pumps. This, of course, will result in loss of the fuel cell. For some of these
failures, it is possible to implement an In-Flight Maintenance (IFM) procedure to regain
AC power to the fuel cell pump package. This procedure takes advantage of a circuit in
the ECU used preflight to check the pump package (Figure 2.12-1). To accomplish this
procedure, thermal debris traps and lockers must first be removed to access the
applicable Power Controller Assembly (PCA) and MDM LF1. DC utility power
(MNC/MNA, depending on which fuel cell is lost) should be verified OFF. An IFM power
cable is connected between a DC utility outlet (MO30F/FC1) and an IFM breakout box.
One lead from the breakout box is connected to the F10 fuse receptacle on a Forward
Power Controller (FPC) with a fuse cap test lead. This will supply power (28 V DC) to
the fuel cell pump check load driver in a Mid Power Controller (MPC) through the
preflight test bus. The other lead will be connected to launch MDM LF1 (Figure 2.12-1).
This connection will supply 28 V DC power to the enable input of the same pump check
load driver. This final connection will cause relay K7 in the ECU to operate applying AC
power to the pump package.

Zachstar · « **Reply #102 on:** 10/24/2007 07:09 pm »

View of the payload bay with docking ring extended.

Zachstar · « **Reply #103 on:** 10/24/2007 07:10 pm »

View of the bay

View of the rear camera.

25 mins until NC3

Zachstar · « **Reply #104 on:** 10/24/2007 07:15 pm »

View from the RMS. Note part of Node 2 on the left.

View of Node 2.

Zachstar · « **Reply #105 on:** 10/24/2007 07:17 pm »

Post MMT now moved up!

Zachstar · « **Reply #106 on:** 10/24/2007 07:37 pm »

Good NC3 burn.

Michael Z Freeman · « **Reply #107 on:** 10/24/2007 07:54 pm »

Was the NASA TV announcer suggesting that Clay has been up there for too long ?

Boggling.

DJ Barney

Felix · « **Reply #108 on:** 10/24/2007 07:55 pm »

rcaron · « **Reply #109 on:** 10/24/2007 07:59 pm »

Did anybody hear Clay's banter with the ground in full? The commentator was talking over the trivia questions and now I just HAVE to know!

jmjawors · « **Reply #110 on:** 10/24/2007 08:03 pm »

A couple jokes thrown in for good measure, too... with the answers drowned out each time.

Oh well.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #111 on:** 10/24/2007 08:04 pm »

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5263 - updated with an ET image showing the main foam liberation.

STS-500Cmdr · « **Reply #112 on:** 10/24/2007 08:11 pm »

Seeing this talk of a fuel cell issue immediately makes me think of STS-83. I hope we're not getting into that kind of a situation here.

marshallsplace · « **Reply #113 on:** 10/24/2007 08:18 pm »

I got a couple of Clay's highly technical comments .....

Q "What lies on the bottom of the ocean and shakes....?" - Clay

"We're checking on that" - flight control (can't belive they didn't know that one!)

Q "What's the difference between roast beef and pea soup?" - Clay
A " You can roast beef but you can't..... you fill in the blanks!" - Clay

Gonna miss Clay :laugh:

Zachstar · « **Reply #114 on:** 10/24/2007 08:27 pm »

Beautiful view of the payload bay with the earth above.

nathan.moeller · « **Reply #115 on:** 10/24/2007 08:27 pm »

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STS-500Cmdr - 24/10/2007 3:11 PM

Seeing this talk of a fuel cell issue immediately makes me think of STS-83. I hope we're not getting into that kind of a situation here.

If I remember correctly, STS-83 was forced to land early because of APU issues and not FCs. But you're right. I hope this doesn't force a mission abort.

Andy_Small · « **Reply #116 on:** 10/24/2007 08:34 pm »

listening to the coverage makes me think sometimes the crews should have a degree in information technology all the troubleshooting they have to do with their lap tops

ChrisC · « **Reply #117 on:** 10/24/2007 08:34 pm »

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nathan.moeller - 24/10/2007 4:27 PM
If I remember correctly, STS-83 was forced to land early because of APU issues and not FCs. But you're right. I hope this doesn't force a mission abort.

FCs. Google is your friend

Felix · « **Reply #118 on:** 10/24/2007 08:36 pm »

JesseD · « **Reply #119 on:** 10/24/2007 08:36 pm »

just before the Nasa TV feed switching to the MMT briefing, the orbiter glided over the western wildfires:

Zachstar · « **Reply #120 on:** 10/24/2007 08:37 pm »

On now!

Felix · « **Reply #121 on:** 10/24/2007 08:40 pm »

Felix · « **Reply #122 on:** 10/24/2007 08:41 pm »

Shannon: "No issue at all"

riney · « **Reply #123 on:** 10/24/2007 08:41 pm »

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Andy_Small - 24/10/2007 4:34 PM

listening to the coverage makes me think sometimes the crews should have a degree in information technology all the troubleshooting they have to do with their lap tops

I've often thought, watching ISS coverage, that with all the fiddly PC repair work they end up doing (reboot this, reinstall that, replace an Ethernet cable there), that they could really use an onboard IT guy. I'll go

--riney

Felix · « **Reply #124 on:** 10/24/2007 08:42 pm »

Shannon: "Performance of Ice/Frost ramps was outstanding" (second image)

eeergo · « **Reply #125 on:** 10/24/2007 08:42 pm »

The clear ice we thought was ON the LH2 feedline really was just plastic, the troublesome ice was what looked like frost.

Condensation is not worrying.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #126 on:** 10/24/2007 08:44 pm »

Wow, they aren't going to even show the LO2 IFR foam loss??

eeergo · « **Reply #127 on:** 10/24/2007 08:45 pm »

Mmmm... that's shocking! It's by far the biggest chunk.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #128 on:** 10/24/2007 08:50 pm »

If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!!

THIS:

jmjawors · « **Reply #129 on:** 10/24/2007 08:53 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:50 PM If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!! THIS:

Oops, too late. Very odd though.

Obviously a top secret US military nano-sat was deployed from that section of the ET, making it *appear* as though it is foam liberation.

You see, he simply can't talk about it. :laugh:

Seriously though, you're not the only one who wants to know about it.

Zachstar · « **Reply #130 on:** 10/24/2007 08:53 pm »

Sunset!

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #131 on:** 10/24/2007 08:57 pm »

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jmjawors - 24/10/2007 9:53 PM

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:50 PM If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!! THIS:
Oops, too late. Very odd though.
Obviously a top secret US military nano-sat was deployed from that section of the ET, making it *appear* as though it is foam liberation.
You see, he simply can't talk about it. :laugh:
Seriously though, you're not the only one who wants to know about it.

Could be nothing. Obviously didn't hit the orbiter (good)...but when we've got an engineer on L2 worried this could be a potential showstopper for 122, then I think it needs checking

Zachstar · « **Reply #132 on:** 10/24/2007 08:59 pm »

OBSS Berth video playback.

Zachstar · « **Reply #133 on:** 10/24/2007 09:00 pm »

PA space fan · « **Reply #134 on:** 10/24/2007 09:02 pm »

No word on the earlier FC2 chat? (I don't have access to NASA TV, unfortunately.) More importantly, has Houston come up with an answer to Clay's first joke?

jmjawors · « **Reply #135 on:** 10/24/2007 09:02 pm »

Too bad they don't do the little end of the day video segment that the crew of STS-117 did.

Just a selfish wish... there's obviously no way they have the time.

Zachstar · « **Reply #136 on:** 10/24/2007 09:02 pm »

More of Node 2 in view.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #137 on:** 10/24/2007 09:03 pm »

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PA space fan - 24/10/2007 10:02 PM

No word on the earlier FC2 chat?

No mention of it, no.

ChrisGebhardt · « **Reply #138 on:** 10/24/2007 09:04 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 4:57 PM

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jmjawors - 24/10/2007 9:53 PM

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:50 PM If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!! THIS:
Oops, too late. Very odd though.
Obviously a top secret US military nano-sat was deployed from that section of the ET, making it *appear* as though it is foam liberation.
You see, he simply can't talk about it. :laugh:
Seriously though, you're not the only one who wants to know about it.

Could be nothing. Obviously didn't hit the orbiter (good)...but when we've got an engineer on L2 worried this could be a potential showstopper for 122, then I think it needs checking

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the IFRs on ET-120 where redesigned as a test of the final redesign to come later next year and the IFRs to fly with STS-122 in December are the ones they've been flying with for a while now.

Zachstar · « **Reply #139 on:** 10/24/2007 09:05 pm »

Video at night

Zachstar · « **Reply #140 on:** 10/24/2007 09:14 pm »

OBSS Berthing Ops. (replay)

Zachstar · « **Reply #141 on:** 10/24/2007 09:32 pm »

See yall tomorrow hope to do well on the docking coverage!

Go Discovery!

JimO · « **Reply #142 on:** 10/24/2007 09:57 pm »

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If so, it looks like the ISS could have a viewline to the lauch and the orbiter might have been able to glimpse the LV halfway through ascent; depending on whether the exhaust plume is bright enough to be spotted from such a distance.

I've checked with JSC PAO and at the time of launch both crews were fully focused internally -- nobody mentioned seeing anything out the windows at that time. I'm getting Space Command to verify the proximity -- but there was always enough altitude clearance to insure safety.

I wonder if the closeness surprised both sides?

JJ.. · « **Reply #143 on:** 10/24/2007 10:11 pm »

"has Houston come up with an answer to Clay's first joke?"

is this the "a nervouse wreck" punchline ? (lol)

JJ..

ApolloLee · « **Reply #144 on:** 10/24/2007 10:44 pm »

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jmjawors - 24/10/2007 1:53 PM

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:50 PM If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!! THIS:
Oops, too late. Very odd though.
Obviously a top secret US military nano-sat was deployed from that section of the ET, making it *appear* as though it is foam liberation.
You see, he simply can't talk about it. :laugh:
Seriously though, you're not the only one who wants to know about it.

Not to be a nag, but we're usually criticizing the media folks at the briefing for asking too many questions about foam loss... Now we're criticizing them for not asking a foam-loss question?

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #145 on:** 10/24/2007 10:53 pm »

No one was criticizing anyone! It'd of been nice for someone to ask the question, but no one was criticizing.

Ford Mustang · « **Reply #146 on:** 10/24/2007 10:55 pm »

Just wanted a certain question asked, that didn't get asked..

This is, however, very interesting. Now I'm quite interested in this whole LO2 IFR.

swhitt · « **Reply #147 on:** 10/24/2007 11:05 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:53 PM

No one was criticizing anyone! It'd of been nice for someone to ask the question, but no one was criticizing.

It would have been that you were giving a story away, would it? :-)

jmjawors · « **Reply #148 on:** 10/24/2007 11:12 pm »

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ApolloLee - 24/10/2007 5:44 PM Not to be a nag, but we're usually criticizing the media folks at the briefing for asking too many questions about foam loss... Now we're criticizing them for not asking a foam-loss question?

It's more a surprise that John Shannon didn't address it in the first place. There's a difference between a reporter's fishing for tragedy (which is often the case) and reporting the facts. And in this case a fact was omitted that should have been discussed.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #149 on:** 10/24/2007 11:20 pm »

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swhitt - 24/10/2007 12:05 AM

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:53 PM

No one was criticizing anyone! It'd of been nice for someone to ask the question, but no one was criticizing.

It would have been that you were giving a story away, would it? :-)

Don't know what you mean. I just would have liked an answer to the question raised in the images.

swhitt · « **Reply #150 on:** 10/24/2007 11:22 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 4:20 PM

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swhitt - 24/10/2007 12:05 AM

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 3:53 PM

No one was criticizing anyone! It'd of been nice for someone to ask the question, but no one was criticizing.

It would have been that you were giving a story away, would it? :-)

??

I just would have liked an answer to the question raised in the images.

Never mind, it has been a long day here.

ApolloLee · « **Reply #151 on:** 10/24/2007 11:27 pm »

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jmjawors - 24/10/2007 4:12 PM

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ApolloLee - 24/10/2007 5:44 PM Not to be a nag, but we're usually criticizing the media folks at the briefing for asking too many questions about foam loss... Now we're criticizing them for not asking a foam-loss question?
It's more a surprise that John Shannon didn't address it in the first place. There's a difference between a reporter's fishing for tragedy (which is often the case) and reporting the facts. And in this case a fact was omitted that should have been discussed.

My thought is that Shannon and the engineers are certainly aware of the foam loss but don't have anywhere near the data needed to make any conclusions about it at this point.....

And based on past history, I'm sure they're worried that if they do highlight it, they'll see a spate of "Discovery is Doomed" headlines in the morning.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #152 on:** 10/24/2007 11:28 pm »

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swhitt - 25/10/2007 12:22 AM

Never mind, it has been a long day here.

Heh, tell about it. 18 hours and counting here!

In fact, I might as well start the FD3 thread!

Ford Mustang · « **Reply #153 on:** 10/24/2007 11:59 pm »

Today's Post MMT briefing slides now up on the NASA.gov page:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts120/news/pmmtb_sts120_fd02.html

el_nino · « **Reply #154 on:** 10/25/2007 01:59 am »

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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts120/news/pmmtb_sts120_fd02.html

I've been away for many hours and missed the MMT briefing this afternoon. Just looking at those slides now and, wow...what is up with the vapor trail coming off the ET during ascent? Did they comment on this at all?

jmjawors · « **Reply #155 on:** 10/25/2007 02:00 am »

Yes they did. Just condensation if I remember right.... and totally normal. Only difference is that the sunlight caught it *just* right to make it look like something more serious.

rdale · « **Reply #156 on:** 10/25/2007 02:10 am »

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el_nino - 24/10/2007 9:59 PM

I've been away for many hours and missed the MMT briefing this afternoon.

You can always parse back a few pages as someone usually recaps the high points, or check the homepage here, or subscribe to Bill Harwood's email as he talks about it, or watch the replay at http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/

John44 · « **Reply #157 on:** 10/25/2007 04:02 am »

VIDEO BRIEFINGS AND FLIGHT DAY 2 HIGHLIGHTS
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9130&posts=46#M201416

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #158 on:** 10/25/2007 04:19 pm »

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Chris Bergin - 24/10/2007 9:50 PM

If there's a media person at this briefing, ask him why he's not mentioned the big ass chunk of foam missing from the LO2 IFR!!

THIS:

As you saw from me getting all hot under the collar last night. Internally at NASA, this is now advanced to the top foam liberation.

"ET TPS Loss IFR 593
Missing TPS was noted at IFR 593. Preliminary assessment by ET is heavy popcorning or erosion/recession."

So you can bet the post-MMT briefing will mention it this time around.

James Lowe1 · « **Reply #159 on:** 11/03/2007 07:58 pm »

Bump and Lock. Realignment of Flight Day threads into order.