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#140
by
racshot65
on 27 Jul, 2011 18:25
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Thanks for the advice can you see the vechicle on the pad from the Saturn V centre ?
How early do you think I'd have to get there to get a good spot?
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#141
by
jsmjr
on 27 Jul, 2011 18:43
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The best places to view are the Saturn V Center on the KSC tour (which will be open, earlier than normal that day and first come first serve), or Playalinda Beach (TBD; normally would, but this is a 551 so it's possible they will have it closed [similarly almost certainly will be closed for MSL given the RTG]).
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
Tying the security envelope to mission parameters like the number of strap-on SRBs and nuclear power sources certainly makes sense, but I hadn't thought of that before. I would imagine launch azimuth is another major factor. A search didn't turn up that data for Juno, but maybe someone else on NSF knows. For an outer planet mission, should be more or less in-plane with local Earth rotation, no? If so, then you might be able to get closer north/south than otherwise would be the case for an earth-orbiting launch.
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#142
by
kermit
on 27 Jul, 2011 19:02
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Thanks for the advice can you see the vechicle on the pad from the Saturn V centre ?
How early do you think I'd have to get there to get a good spot?
Yes you can see the top half of the launch tower and the top of the rocket sticking up behind it.
Normally the saturn V center is the last stop on the free tour, but on launch day they run busses directly to the center. And they may start before the normal 10:00 AM start.
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#143
by
Rocket Guy
on 27 Jul, 2011 20:32
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Tying the security envelope to mission parameters like the number of strap-on SRBs and nuclear power sources certainly makes sense, but I hadn't thought of that before.
Think about protesters running up the beach to stop the launch...
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#144
by
kevin-rf
on 27 Jul, 2011 20:50
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Think about protesters running up the beach to stop the launch...
That is when you strategically place a bunch of signs and clear a path into the flame trench
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#145
by
Ben the Space Brit
on 27 Jul, 2011 22:07
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Think about protesters running up the beach to stop the launch...
I could be wrong, but I thought that Juno wasn't RTG-powered but used solar arrays. If I'm right, then idiots determined to get an SRB suntan shouldn't be an issue.
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#146
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jsmjr
on 27 Jul, 2011 22:14
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Think about protesters running up the beach to stop the launch...
I could be wrong, but I thought that Juno wasn't RTG-powered but used solar arrays. If I'm right, then idiots determined to get an SRB suntan shouldn't be an issue.
Also, if this launch animation is to be trusted as accurate -- and they seemed to have tried -- the trajectory is more south-easterly than any typical shuttle-to-ISS launch. That would be away from Playlandia.
(see roughtly 2:20 on)
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#147
by
racshot65
on 27 Jul, 2011 23:10
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Is there anyway to find out if Playalinda Beach will be closed, without just turning up on launch day?
Some googling reveals it's a nudist beach, that could be a fun experience
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#148
by
kch
on 27 Jul, 2011 23:41
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Is there anyway to find out if Playalinda Beach will be closed, without just turning up on launch day?
Some googling reveals it's a nudist beach, that could be a fun experience
Sounds like a good place to hang out ...
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#149
by
jsmjr
on 28 Jul, 2011 00:08
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Is there anyway to find out if Playalinda Beach will be closed, without just turning up on launch day?
Some googling reveals it's a nudist beach, that could be a fun experience
Sounds like a good place to hang out ...
Now I understand the name.
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#150
by
00rs250
on 28 Jul, 2011 00:21
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Is there anyway to find out if Playalinda Beach will be closed, without just turning up on launch day?
Some googling reveals it's a nudist beach, that could be a fun experience
As long as you can accept that not all bodies are heavenly.
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#151
by
Jason1701
on 28 Jul, 2011 01:07
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Think about protesters running up the beach to stop the launch...
I could be wrong, but I thought that Juno wasn't RTG-powered but used solar arrays. If I'm right, then idiots determined to get an SRB suntan shouldn't be an issue.
Solar arrays is correct. The RTG reference was about MSL.
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#152
by
Antares
on 28 Jul, 2011 02:02
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The fairing is shipped vertical to the Atlas V Assembly?
This is with the payload encapsulated. Almost all rockets integrate their payloads vertically.
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#153
by
Rocket Guy
on 28 Jul, 2011 02:05
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-MSL has an RTG. Playalinda was closed for New Horizons; maybe because of the RTG, maybe 551, or both.
-Playalinda is no longer a nudist beach by law, but people do it anyway.
-It doesn't matter what the azimuth is, the distance to the pad is fixed. Accidents can happen on the pad.
-I notice the official launch animation (which is more of an on pad animation since it only shows ten seconds of launch) includes an ILS logo on the rocket. Someone needs to be brought up to date.
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#154
by
robertross
on 28 Jul, 2011 02:35
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#155
by
alexw
on 28 Jul, 2011 05:14
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Great pic Jim, thanks!
Lucky fellow!
Professional obligation to be present, Jim, or a case of you've-got-access, might-as-well-use-it?
-Alex
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#156
by
Jim
on 28 Jul, 2011 13:10
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#157
by
psloss
on 28 Jul, 2011 13:13
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Thanks for the pix, Jim.
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#158
by
Jim
on 28 Jul, 2011 13:13
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#159
by
kevin-rf
on 28 Jul, 2011 14:33
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Quick call security a bandit is about to steal Juno
