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Offline James Lowe1

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #1 on: 12/08/2005 12:28 am »
First of what I hope will be many steps to getting us back exploring.

Offline Mark Max Q

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #2 on: 12/08/2005 03:46 am »
So you're looking at a maximum order of 38 SRBs for the remaining STS flights, design, build, testing of a new SRB to be the first stage for the CLV and then a number of them for the first CLVs. Depending on how long this deal is for, it must be about a $1billion contract?

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #3 on: 12/08/2005 03:51 am »
so much for downselecting...

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #4 on: 12/08/2005 12:13 pm »
I like how "ET Orange" has become the color for all the most fashionable artist renderings these days.
Can't the primer be a color other than "Rust #3"?  Or is that the only color available?

Why do they paint the ET with primer at all?  If the white paint weighed 500 kg, doesn't the primer weigh something similar?
What is the concern?  Brushed Aluminum is in these days...just look at the new Apple computers.  I think a tower of gleaming metal would look superb.

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #5 on: 12/08/2005 12:57 pm »
the orange is the foam insulation needed to controll boil off and ice formation.
ice is not a problem for CLV but boil off still is.

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #6 on: 12/08/2005 06:44 pm »
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the orange is the foam insulation needed to controll boil off and ice formation.
ice is not a problem for CLV but boil off still is.

Oh, so the primer is actually clear?   What is the purpose of the primer?  I guess I always thought it was just a base layer for the absent white paint, but does it actually protect or bond the foam?

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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #7 on: 12/08/2005 07:39 pm »
Maybe it does keep the foam in one place and they can do that given they have weight allowances which are not restricted like on the Shuttle.
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RE: ATK win CLV contract
« Reply #8 on: 12/08/2005 11:42 pm »
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rubicondsrv - 8/12/2005  8:57 AM

the orange is the foam insulation needed to controll boil off and ice formation.
ice is not a problem for CLV but boil off still is.

Oh, so the primer is actually clear?   What is the purpose of the primer?  I guess I always thought it was just a base layer for the absent white paint, but does it actually protect or bond the foam?

I think the "ET Orange" material IS the foam.... no primer, no undercoat, no paint.   In fact, there was an article today in usspacenews.com that mentions a possibility of going back to painting the tank (or critical areas of it) to perhaps prevent or lower the risk of large foam shedding.

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