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Offline ChrisC

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #260 on: 02/10/2019 01:40 pm »
Oh lord, after 18 hours I thought this bickering had stopped, but now it continues. You've stated your cases, and nobody's convincing anyone else.  Move on please.

Of course, it's a general thread, where discussion is fine, and so you're allowed to continue, and I'm allowed to chime in with annoyance :)

If you're going to persist, please trim your quotes down so we don't get a wall of text with every reply.

Edit:  I have failed, apparently.
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #261 on: 02/10/2019 04:14 pm »
Given the development pace, results so far, and safety record, Branson could use the criticism.

Some programs get into trouble because they go too fast.

VG is going both too slow (in calendar time) and too fast (in terms of tests b4 regular service).

This is not concern trolling - this is straight out saying it is not a healthy program, and it originates from the the top. The exaggerated PR is a symptom of that.

Your statements seem unsupportable to me being as you donít have an insiders view on the current state of the program. All you are doing is recycling things that have already been well discussed on here. I donít see whatís productive or useful about doing that at this point in time. To me it smacks of criticising for the sake of it.

They are supportable by the lack of change in Branson's behavior.

The test program seems artificially short, limited by his desire to ride the Apollo launch date.

And while this was discussed before, it is certainly not conjecture - it is right out there for everyone to see.

Look at BO. They flew 10 times already, faster and higher than VG did - and are still testing. I think they are moving too slow in tempo, but they are certainly being methodical about the testing program.
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #262 on: 02/10/2019 08:27 pm »
Thanks for the self mod attempt, ChrisC.

Yes, you guys know better. Stop. Especially the deep nest of quotes.. .don't go 3 or 4 deep as a regular practice is my advice. 

Oh lord, after 18 hours I thought this bickering had stopped, but now it continues. You've stated your cases, and nobody's convincing anyone else.  Move on please.

Of course, it's a general thread, where discussion is fine, and so you're allowed to continue, and I'm allowed to chime in with annoyance :)

If you're going to persist, please trim your quotes down so we don't get a wall of text with every reply.

Edit:  I have failed, apparently.
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #263 on: 02/10/2019 09:02 pm »
Just ignore the "Madison Avenue" sales hype. With New Shepard we have two new "spaceflight experience rides", that's two more than we ever had before... I'm OK with that... 8)
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #264 on: 02/14/2019 03:03 am »
As expected, still a lot to do though:

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Virgin Galactic founder Richard Branson sets date of first trip into space
British billionaire plans to make a suborbital flight on the 50th anniversary of the Apollo 11 moon landing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/science/virgin-galactic-ceo-richard-branson-sets-date-first-trip-space-ncna969436

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Branson said the next test flight of SpaceShipTwo was planned for Feb. 20.
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #265 on: 02/19/2019 03:06 pm »
Branson said the next test flight of SpaceShipTwo was planned for Feb. 20.

Still on for tomorrow or has it already been subject to Branson time?

EDIT: Must have heard me :)
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #266 on: 02/19/2019 03:19 pm »
Just ignore the "Madison Avenue" sales hype. With New Shepard we have two new "spaceflight experience rides", that's two more than we ever had before... I'm OK with that... 8)

I'm with you. The best 'roller coaster' rides out there!

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #267 on: 02/19/2019 03:36 pm »
VG:

Virgin Galactic Flight Test Program Update:

SpaceShipTwo, VSS Unity, Prepares For Fifth Powered Test Flight

 

February 19, 2019

 

Virgin Galacticís historic, first spaceflight, was a wonderful way for our dedicated and talented teams to close 2018. But now, with the rocket motor from that flight on show at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum and our first space pilots proudly wearing their FAA Commercial Astronaut Wings, we are getting ready to return VSS Unity to the black skies.

 

With the usual caveats that apply to all test flights, and with the added uncertainties of weather at this time of year in Mojave, the window for our fifth supersonic powered test flight opens on February 20, 2019, and our test flight is planned for the morning of Wednesday, February 20.

 

Although we passed a major milestone in December, we still have a way to go in testing the many factors that can affect a flight. So, for this flight, we will be expanding the envelope to gather new and vital data essential to future tests and operations, including vehicle center of gravity.

 

We are proud to be flying NASA Flight Opportunity program research payloads again. The spaceship will be a little heavier than last time, and very close to a full commercial weight.

 

We are now at the stage where we can confirm some of the aspects of the customer cabin and this will be a continuing theme as we enter this final stage of flight test. It is of paramount importance to our future business success that we not only give our future astronauts a safe ride, but an experience which exceeds expectations. We know, as part of a Group that has led the way in commercial aviation customer experience, cabin design is fundamental to that objective and so this element is an integral part of our flight test program.

 

As we prepare for this next flight, we do so with meticulous care and great attention to detail. As always, there are no guarantees that everything will go to plan or work perfectly and the teamís overriding priority is always to bring crew and spaceship home safely. Whether we complete all our objectives during the next flight or not, we remain committed to completing the final stages of flight test as quickly, but more importantly as safely, as possible.

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #268 on: 02/19/2019 03:49 pm »
SpaceShipTwo, VSS Unity, Prepares For Fifth Supersonic Powered Test Flight

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Richard Branson and Chief Pilot, Dave Mackay give an update on this next phase of our flight test program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qWm09lqDWU?t=001

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #269 on: 02/19/2019 04:41 pm »
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Feb. 19, 2019
Virgin Galactic Goes for Two, Helps NASA Mature Space Tech

Just over two months since its first venture to suborbital space, Virgin Galacticís SpaceShipTwo is set to fly again and test four NASA-supported technologies. The flight, taking off no earlier than Feb. 20, is the companyís second mission for NASA.

The planned experiments cover a range of research areas, from life support systems to electromagnetic fields. Most of the technologies flew onboard SpaceShipTwo in December 2018 and, more recently, two launched on a Blue Origin rocket. Regular access to reduced-gravity lets researchers collect data needed to mature their technologies for use in deep space.

The four technology payloads planned for the mission are:

    Microgravity Multi-Phase Flow Experiment for Suborbital Testing, NASAís Johnson Space Center in Houston
    Vibration Isolation Platform, Controlled Dynamics Inc. in Huntington Beach, California
    Collisions into Dust Experiment, University of Central Florida in Orlando
    Electromagnetic Field Measurements, Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore

The photo (Credit: Virgin Galactic) shows the NASA Johnson technology payload being loaded into Virgin Galacticís SpaceShipTwo on Dec. 13, 2018. The payload will fly again on the winged spacecraftís second flight to suborbital space.

Virgin Galactic and other U.S. commercial spaceflight providers are contracted to provide flight services to NASA for flight testing and technology demonstration. Researchers from academia and industry with concepts for exploration, commercial space applications or other space utilization technologies of potential interest to NASA can receive grants from the Flight Opportunities program to purchase suborbital flights from various U.S. commercial spaceflight providers. The Tech Flights solicitation for potential payloads is open until April 26, 2019. For more information, visit:

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/flightopportunities/opportunities

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/flightopportunities/image-feature/virgin-galactic-goes-for-two-helps-nasa-mature-space-tech

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #270 on: 02/19/2019 06:24 pm »
https://twitter.com/virgingalactic/status/1097933179363614720

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SpaceShipTwo was mated to our mothership WhiteKnightTwo on Sunday ahead of our next test flight. The flight window opens tomorrow morning. Read about our aims for this flight here virg.in/UpU

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #271 on: 02/19/2019 06:49 pm »
https://twitter.com/spacecom/status/1097945157062733824

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AccuWeather forecast for #VirginGalactic #SpaceShipTwo flight test in Mojave on Wednesday Feb. 20. Mostly sunny 32 F (0 C) when window opens at 7 am w/ winds at12 mph (19.3 k/ph). Temp & wind will rise by noon to 46 F (7.8 C) & 18 mph (29 k/ph). Typical Feb day in High Desert.

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #272 on: 02/19/2019 11:42 pm »
OVERVIEW | Episode 4: Meet The Virgin Galactic Spaceship Pilots


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Published on Feb 19, 2019

How do you become a pilot for Virgin Galactic? Watch what inspires our spaceship pilots to do what they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEAeU-B2rA4?t=001

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #275 on: 02/20/2019 01:11 pm »
I take it this one won't actually go into space either?

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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #276 on: 02/20/2019 01:18 pm »
https://twitter.com/spacereportr/status/1098223405361328129

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Virgin Galactic SpaceShipTwo launch scrubbed due to high winds. Now slated for Friday, Feb. 22.

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https://twitter.com/virgingalactic/status/1098225665873108992

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Our test flight window opened this morning, but the Mojave weather isnít cooperating. We plan to try again in the next few days. Weíll keep you posted.
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Re: Space Ship Two - General Thread (4)
« Reply #278 on: 02/20/2019 05:16 pm »
So what kind of winds does it take to ground this thing?

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« Reply #279 on: 02/20/2019 05:24 pm »
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