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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #240 on: 02/01/2018 12:29 am »
Im really sorry to be stupid but... If Hispasat is going to launch on 15 Feb, does anyone have an estimate of launch time.  Since Im headed to Daytona for speed week, Id love to get to see the launch instead of going to Thursday nights races.

I wouldn't plan on Feb 15 at this point. I believe that is a public placeholder for "mid-February" at this point in time, we haven't been given a more specific date yet.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #241 on: 02/01/2018 12:47 pm »
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #242 on: 02/01/2018 02:32 pm »
Im really sorry to be stupid but... If Hispasat is going to launch on 15 Feb, does anyone have an estimate of launch time.  Since Im headed to Daytona for speed week, Id love to get to see the launch instead of going to Thursday nights races.

I wouldn't plan on Feb 15 at this point. I believe that is a public placeholder for "mid-February" at this point in time, we haven't been given a more specific date yet.

...and there it goes.  Moving at least a week to the right.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #243 on: 02/01/2018 03:35 pm »
Im really sorry to be stupid but... If Hispasat is going to launch on 15 Feb, does anyone have an estimate of launch time.  Since Im headed to Daytona for speed week, Id love to get to see the launch instead of going to Thursday nights races.

I wouldn't plan on Feb 15 at this point. I believe that is a public placeholder for "mid-February" at this point in time, we haven't been given a more specific date yet.

...and there it goes.  Moving at least a week to the right.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

Guess Ill be at Daytona International Speedway for the races
http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #244 on: 02/02/2018 07:34 pm »
Id be very interested in the latest info on the TESS launch, planning a launch trip. Is March 20 doable or is it moving to the right like one note upthread hinted?
I'll even excitedly look forward to "flags and footprints" and suborbital missions. Just fly...somewhere.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #245 on: 02/02/2018 07:38 pm »
Id be very interested in the latest info on the TESS launch, planning a launch trip. Is March 20 doable or is it moving to the right like one note upthread hinted?

I haven't seen anything about the TESS date moving.  That doesn't mean it won't.   \_(ツ)_/

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #246 on: 02/04/2018 10:54 am »
The relative lack of launches in 2019 is concerning for spacex's long term ability to fund BFR.  Seems like once they are through this year they have little left to do.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #247 on: 02/04/2018 12:55 pm »
Why do we have a tendency to worry about such things simply due to lack of information shared with the public? I feel it's better to take the position that SpaceX has tons of very, very smart people who achieve extraordinary things by making good decisions and well-informed, yet flexible plans.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #248 on: 02/04/2018 05:48 pm »
The relative lack of launches in 2019 is concerning for spacex's long term ability to fund BFR.  Seems like once they are through this year they have little left to do.

Launch revenue isn't funding BFR... according to EM.  The Starlink constellation is the revenue stream.  2019 is kick-off year to get it launched, so only having 15-20 flights to cover for others leaves room for 20 or more of their own flights; this should get something like the first half of 800 sats launched -- the minimum number needed to go operational.  These 20 or whatever number of launches are not shown on this thread's manifest, but maybe should be added in some 'bulk' form.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #249 on: 02/04/2018 06:11 pm »
The relative lack of launches in 2019 is concerning for spacex's long term ability to fund BFR.  Seems like once they are through this year they have little left to do.
How does the global manifest look like for that year?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #250 on: 02/04/2018 06:44 pm »
The relative lack of launches in 2019 is concerning for spacex's long term ability to fund BFR.  Seems like once they are through this year they have little left to do.
At the price point SpaceX is offering, I don't think they're going to have any trouble keeping the manifest full for the foreseeable future.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #251 on: 02/04/2018 09:29 pm »
This thread is for the flights on the SpaceX manifest.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #252 on: 02/04/2018 09:48 pm »
Pursuant to that, it's too early to put any notional StarLink launches on, no? Or is it?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #253 on: 02/04/2018 10:01 pm »
Pursuant to that, it's too early to put any notional StarLink launches on, no? Or is it?

I think it's too early, we know very little about Starlink at this point.

Heck, we don't even know where they will launch from, and on which vehicle. F9? FH? BFR? Cape? Vandy?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #254 on: 02/06/2018 02:44 am »
Pursuant to that, it's too early to put any notional StarLink launches on, no? Or is it?

I think it's too early, we know very little about Starlink at this point.

Heck, we don't even know where they will launch from, and on which vehicle. F9? FH? BFR? Cape? Vandy?
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #255 on: 02/07/2018 11:26 am »
The relative lack of launches in 2019 is concerning for spacex's long term ability to fund BFR.  Seems like once they are through this year they have little left to do.

SpaceX Vice President of Build and flight reliability, Hans Koenigsmann, spoke at the SmallSat Symposium yesterday. He said SpaceX now has a greater than $12 Billion in manifest backlog. Here is the relevant tweet from Peter B. de Spelding.

if someone wants to do some math, they could pull out the Commercial Resupply Services and Commercial Crew numbers out of that 12 Billion and estimate how many future commercial satellite launches haven't been announced. My guess is there is little concern for SpaceX's 2019 manifest and beyond.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #256 on: 02/07/2018 03:38 pm »
How can an expendable return (Govsat) be unsuccessful?  ???
They were testing a landing burn without having anything to actually land on. It didn't sink and appeared to have remained intact. Or at least it didn't sink straight away. There's a speculative recovery thread on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/7uw4ly/b01322_the_falcon_that_could_recovery_thread/

By contrast, the FH Centre Core is reported to have broken up on impact with the ocean, after missing the drone ship, due to two engines not igniting for the landing burn (Elon Musk in the post-launch press conference).

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #257 on: 02/08/2018 03:12 am »
Shouldn't the next few Vandenberg launches be UTC-8? (showing as -7 in table)

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #258 on: 02/08/2018 03:16 am »
SpaceX filed a couple of FCC permits for a launch with ASDS recovery from SLC-40 (File Numbers 0210-EX-ST-2018 & 0211-EX-ST-2018).  Start dates were 3/30 on the launch vehicle comms permit (for mission 1418) and 4/2 on the landing permit, so unless F9 learned how to stay up there a couple days I'm assuming that means NET 4/2.  I'm guessing that would be Bangabandhu-1?  Which would mean a slip of another few days for that mission.  It also is basically the same date and launch pad as the last info I've seen for CRS-14, so one of those is either going to slip some more or maybe CRS-14 switches pads?  My guess would be Bangabandhu-1 goes after CRS-14.  We'll get more information eventually.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates and Discussion Thread 5
« Reply #259 on: 02/08/2018 03:18 am »
Shouldn't the next few Vandenberg launches be UTC-8? (showing as -7 in table)

The next one should be UTC-8 (apparently my brain confused February for March).

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