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Known F9 stage serial numbers
« on: 04/13/2016 02:07 pm »
I figure we should start a thread to keep track of known F9 stage serial numbers.

This was originally an L2 post that Chris pulled out of L2. For all L2 members I've heard officially from him that it's okay to use L2-sourced information from L2 posts for determining the stage numbers. If anyone knows of L2 posts that contain numbers please mention the numbers here or link to the L2 post.

Edit: To be clear I'm looking at mentioning exactly which vehicle each stage launched with and for non-destroyed stages what their current use is. I think adding the destructive fate of each stage is noise for the purposes of this post.

So far I have (though I could be wrong with these):

F9-0001-S1 Dragon Qual Unit?
F9-0002-S1 COTS C1?
F9-0003-S1 COTS C2+?
F9-0004-S1 CRS-1?
F9-0005-S1 CRS-2?
F9-0006-S1 CASSIOPE?
F9-0007-S1 SES-8?
F9-0008-S1 Thaicom 6?
F9-0009-S1 CRS-3?
F9-0010-S1 OG-2 Mission 1?
F9-0011-S1 AsiaSat 8?
F9-0012-S1 AsiaSat 6
F9-0013-S1 CRS-4
F9-0014-S1 CRS-5?
F9-0015-S1 DSCOVR?
F9-0016-S1 ABS-3A/Eutelsat 115 West B?
F9-0017-S1 TürkmenÄlem 52E?
F9-0018-S1 CRS-6
F9-0019-S1 Jason-3
F9-0020-S1 CRS-7?
F9-0021-S1 OG-2 Mission 2?, Heading to Hawthorne
F9-0022-S1 SES-9?
F9-0023-S1 CRS-8?, At Cape Canaveral
F9-0024-S1 JCSAT-14

F9-0001-S2 Dragon Qual Unit?
F9-0002-S2 COTS C1?
F9-0003-S2 COTS C2+?
F9-0004-S2 CRS-1?
F9-0005-S2 CRS-2?
F9-0006-S2 CASSIOPE?
F9-0007-S2 SES-8?
F9-0008-S2 Thaicom 6?
F9-0009-S2 CRS-3?
F9-0010-S2 OG-2 Mission 1?
F9-0011-S2 AsiaSat 8?
F9-0012-S2 AsiaSat 6?
F9-0013-S2 CRS-4?
F9-0014-S2 CRS-5?
F9-0015-S2 DSCOVR?
F9-0016-S2 ABS-3A/Eutelsat 115 West B?
F9-0017-S2 TürkmenÄlem 52E?
F9-0018-S2 CRS-6?
F9-0019-S2 Jason-3?
F9-0020-S2 CRS-7?
F9-0021-S2 OG-2 Mission 2?
F9-0022-S2 SES-9?
F9-0023-S2 CRS-8?
F9-0024-S2 JCSAT-14?
« Last Edit: 04/14/2016 12:02 am by mlindner »
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #1 on: 04/13/2016 02:13 pm »
Most likely Eutelsat 117W B & ABS 2A has F9-0026 based on FAA permits.

Considering that JCSAT-14 has F9-0024 that seems odd.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #2 on: 04/13/2016 02:15 pm »
I figure we should start a thread to keep track of known F9 stage serial numbers.

So far I have (though I could be wrong with these):

F9-0021 OG-2 Mission 2
F9-0020 Jason-3
F9-0022 SES-9
F9-0023 CRS-8
F9-0024 JCSAT

Are those stage or vehicle numbers?

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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #3 on: 04/13/2016 02:19 pm »
I figure we should start a thread to keep track of known F9 stage serial numbers.

So far I have (though I could be wrong with these):

F9-0021 OG-2 Mission 2
F9-0020 Jason-3
F9-0022 SES-9
F9-0023 CRS-8
F9-0024 JCSAT

Are those stage or vehicle numbers?

Good question. I was basing them off of the first stage numbers, but they could indeed be different couldn't they.

Edit: I modified the post to allow for different stage pairings.
« Last Edit: 04/13/2016 02:26 pm by mlindner »
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #4 on: 04/13/2016 02:46 pm »
You should remove the S2 locations for OG2 and CRS-8. S2 CRS-8 is still in Orbit or already deorbited and destroyed I think. All others except one should also be destroyed: DSCOVR S2 is AFAIK on an orbit around the sun.
PS see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches the get a rough idea which rocket was which mission. IIRC most launches and rockets have the same number. There was some switching around once.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #5 on: 04/13/2016 02:50 pm »
You should remove the S2 locations for OG2 and CRS-8. S2 CRS-8 is still in Orbit or already deorbited and destroyed I think. All others except one should also be destroyed: DSCOVR S2 is AFAIK on an orbit around the sun.
PS see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches the get a rough idea which rocket was which mission. IIRC most launches and rockets have the same number. There was some switching around once.

To be clear I'm looking at mentioning exactly which vehicle each stage launched with each vehicle and for non-destroyed stages what their current use is. I think adding the destructive fate of each stage is noise for the purposes of this post.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #6 on: 04/13/2016 02:52 pm »
This was originally an L2 post that Chris pulled out of L2. For all L2 members I've heard officially from him that it's okay to use L2-sourced information from L2 posts for determining the stage numbers. If anyone knows of L2 posts that contain numbers please mention the numbers here or link to the L2 post.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #7 on: 04/13/2016 03:08 pm »
Recently I have tried to collect serial numbers of flown Falcon 9 rockets. Source was NSF L2, of course. This is what I have:

1. Dragon mock-up
2. Dragon (SpX-D1)
3. Dragon (SpX-D2)
4. Dragon (SpX-1)
5. Dragon (SpX-2)
6. Cassiope
7. SES 8
8. Thaicom 6
9. Dragon (SpX-3)
10. Orbcomm-2 (x6)
11. AsiaSat 8
12. AsiaSat 6
13. Dragon (SpX-4)
14. Dragon (SpX-5)
15. DSCOVR
16. ABS 3A
17. TürkmenÄlem 52E
18. Dragon (SpX-6)
19. Jason 3
20. Dragon (SpX-7)
21. Orbcomm-2 (x11)
22. SES 9
23. Dragon (SpX-8)
24. JCSat 14

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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #8 on: 04/13/2016 03:14 pm »
This was originally an L2 post that Chris pulled out of L2. For all L2 members I've heard officially from him that it's okay to use L2-sourced information from L2 posts for determining the stage numbers. If anyone knows of L2 posts that contain numbers please mention the numbers here or link to the L2 post.

Yeah, I thought this would be a cool thread in the open forum where we can keep track of them.

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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #9 on: 04/13/2016 03:15 pm »
Recently I have tried to collect serial numbers of flown Falcon 9 rockets. Source was NSF L2, of course. This is what I have:

1. Dragon mock-up
2. Dragon (SpX-D1)
3. Dragon (SpX-D2)
4. Dragon (SpX-1)
5. Dragon (SpX-2)
6. Cassiope
7. SES 8
8. Thaicom 6
9. Dragon (SpX-3)
10. Orbcomm-2 (x6)
11. AsiaSat 8
12. AsiaSat 6
13. Dragon (SpX-4)
14. Dragon (SpX-5)
15. DSCOVR
16. ABS 3A
17. TürkmenÄlem 52E
18. Dragon (SpX-6)
19. Jason 3
20. Dragon (SpX-7)
21. Orbcomm-2 (x11)
22. SES 9
23. Dragon (SpX-8)
24. JCSat 14

Awesome thanks anik, do you have direct links to L2 forum threads for any of these? There were a few stages that I seem to remember that had their first stage or second stage swapped so I want to keep things confirmed as much as possible.

While I'm at it here's the L2 forum link for the F9-0024-S1. http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34957.msg1501819#msg1501819

I've updated the thread with your numbers but with "?" after them until I can confirm them.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #11 on: 04/13/2016 05:02 pm »
So did Grasshopper and F9-Dev1 (lost) and F9-Dev2 (in-flight abort test?) not get serial numbers?

[EDIT] I think Grasshopper might have been structural test article, maybe the F9-0001 qual unit?
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #12 on: 04/14/2016 12:10 am »

Also see lists of Jonathan McDowell (http://planet4589.org/space/lvdb/launch/Falcon9) and Ed Kyle (http://www.spacelaunchreport.com/falcon9ft.html#f9ftlog)

I'd love to know where they get their numbers as those are completely different than what's seen in L2.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #13 on: 04/14/2016 06:55 am »
I'd love to know where they get their numbers as those are completely different than what's seen in L2

The only difference I see is #12 and #13 (McDowell & Kyle), also #17 and #18 (McDowell), all other serial numbers coincides with L2.
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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #14 on: 04/14/2016 07:03 am »
I'd love to know where they get their numbers as those are completely different than what's seen in L2

The only difference I see is #12 and #13 (McDowell & Kyle), also #17 and #18 (McDowell), all other serial numbers coincides with L2.

Sorry I was using a bit of hyperbole, but those few numbers where they don't match are the ones we have "confirmed" on L2. That's kind of odd.
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« Reply #15 on: 04/14/2016 11:38 am »
Sorry I was using a bit of hyperbole, but those few numbers where they don't match are the ones we have "confirmed" on L2. That's kind of odd.
I thought AsiaSat 6 and CRS-4 had a core swap. Isn't that why CRS-4 had no legs?

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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #16 on: 08/24/2016 05:59 pm »
Could this tread get a bump and update? Or is there a better one?

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Re: Known F9 stage serial numbers
« Reply #17 on: 08/24/2016 11:32 pm »
From what I've read on Reddit these F9-xxxx are all flight specific numbers / codes / whatever, and the actual stages are designated independently of these as well (and as reuse becomes a thing this will be relevant).

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/4yxuqs/best_of_b1019_raised_vertical_at_spacexs/d6ra814

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/4yxuqs/best_of_b1019_raised_vertical_at_spacexs/d6rc6k5

For example, Flight F9-0021 (Orbcomm OG2) had first stage w/ serial number B1019. Flight F9-0023 (CRS-8) had first stage w/ serial number B1021. If B1021 is reflown again as say, Flight F9-0035, the stage itself is still uniquely B1021.

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