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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #20 on: 11/19/2014 09:22 am »
Now, all that being said, it is OBVIOUS that Iran is working on a gigantic launch vehicle - well beyond the Simorgh (BTW, what is going on with it?) - one just have to take a look on the launch pads of Khomeini space launch center and the Sharud facility.

BUT, and this is a HUGE but, the leap from current solid fueled vehicles (1/25 diameter ) to a 3.5 meters - is QUANTUM LEAP.


Same thing happened in United States in 50s & 60s !

Just compare early atlas launchers with Saturn 5 ...
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #22 on: 11/19/2014 10:00 am »
Where is the official announcement?

http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13930822000347


This is FAR from an official announcement. Anonymous speaker from unknown organization that spoke to FARS news - which is known for its high standards of accuracy....

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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #23 on: 11/19/2014 10:28 am »
Where is the official announcement?

http://www.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13930822000347


This is FAR from an official announcement. Anonymous speaker from unknown organization that spoke to FARS news - which is known for its high standards of accuracy....

Dr.Ommi isn't anonymous!
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #24 on: 11/20/2014 06:35 am »
Thanks SoheilEsy. Here's the Google translation.

"The details of the project martyr Thranymqdm / 4-stage rocket "vertical" to enter the orbit of 1,000 kilometers

To the experts know what the project Thranymqdm martyr, hardness and high technology, the first stage of a motor with a diameter of about 3.5 m and a length of 20 m was used.

Department of Defense Security Fars News Agency - martyr Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam, the head Sunday 21 Persian date Aban 90 Commander Jihad Self-Sufficiency Organization of Islamic Revolution Iranian Revolutionary Guards during one of the most important projects in the aerospace industry in the wake of a rocket explosion along with some of the guards was killed.

Evidence suggests that this project was one of the most effective projects pursued by the great martyr.

Sardar Mohammad Tehrani Moghaddam said (brother of martyr), Haj Hassan 2 days before serving testimony Jmh- mother -in great day arrived, and he says that our "great job" ahead, and 3 times for the success of the mother wants The project will pray.

A few days before the third year, ahead of the martyr Tehrani Moghaddam, the Revolutionary Guards Brigadier General Ramazan Sharif, spokesman at a press conference that " the Smrnshstn "martyr Tehrani Moghaddam project last spoke, but no details of the.

In this regard academic vice president, Fethullah Amy assistant professor of aeronautics and martyr Tehrani Moghaddam, who was a close friend and colleague, the more details of this payment.

Amy Soraya spoke on television, stating that through our work we had several meetings with the martyr Tehrani Moghaddam, the arrival of this great martyr and construction of space rockets carrying satellites (Mahvarhbr) and said: When we use the Rocket Satellite liquid fuel "hope" in orbit 240 to 400 kilometers, is our Leo Leo -Faslh circuit, the same martyr Tehrani Moghaddam said that his next target. He never said that we won and all the work, he now has to go to higher orbit satellites at a distance of 1,000 kilometers, we can.

He said he should find a way to select the first martyr Mahvarhbr, is simpler but with more power. So I chose the solid fuel.

The Professor of Aerospace continued solid fuel, liquid fuel is easier in comparison with the very high risks so that the world of spacecraft with only France uses solid fuel, which is a complex technology which does not Lou.

Amy added, however, martyr Moghaddam said I'll take the risk and start a new project to build a satellite into orbit satellites with solid fuel would be 1,000 kilometers.

He pointed out that the project "vertical missile was" a missile "four-step" with all solid fuel. The three tests were successful and in the end it happened.

Professor of Aerospace stating that many details of the project are confidential and can not speak, said that the experts know just how valuable this project, hardness, high technology, we are using the first stage of an engine is diameter about 3.5 m and a length of 20 meters and experts in the field know how hard it is to work on the engine with solid fuel.

Amy said: Sardar Moghadam was the first "thrust vector control» (TVC (Thrust Vector control test in Iran.

According to Fars, this particular rocket system during a mission in outer space to direct and redirect its missiles used a simpler model other Iranian missiles, including Shahaboddin (with liquified) be used and the first instance of the system The second stage satellite Ambassador engine (with fuel) operation was used. "
« Last Edit: 11/20/2014 06:49 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #25 on: 11/20/2014 10:44 am »
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #26 on: 11/20/2014 10:58 am »
Very nice rendering! If only it was easy to build in reality as it is to make these drawings....(the remark is not only toward Iran).

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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #27 on: 11/20/2014 11:02 am »
Very nice rendering! If only it was easy to build in reality as it is to make these drawings....(the remark is not only toward Iran).

Not easy ... Indeed !

It took 8 years ...
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #28 on: 11/22/2014 10:03 am »
Thanks SoheilEsy. Here's the Google translation.

"The details of the project martyr Thranymqdm / 4-stage rocket "vertical" to enter the orbit of 1,000 kilometers

To the experts know what the project Thranymqdm martyr, hardness and high technology, the first stage of a motor with a diameter of about 3.5 m and a length of 20 m was used.

Department of Defense Security Fars News Agency - martyr Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam, the head Sunday 21 Persian date Aban 90 Commander Jihad Self-Sufficiency Organization of Islamic Revolution Iranian Revolutionary Guards during one of the most important projects in the aerospace industry in the wake of a rocket explosion along with some of the guards was killed.

Evidence suggests that this project was one of the most effective projects pursued by the great martyr.

OK taking the risk of being that guy who says: Iran can blab about LEO, MEO and GEO targets all day long but highlighted words make it pretty clear what the true nature of the vehicle is  :P
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #29 on: 11/22/2014 04:24 pm »
Thanks SoheilEsy. Here's the Google translation.

"The details of the project martyr Thranymqdm / 4-stage rocket "vertical" to enter the orbit of 1,000 kilometers

To the experts know what the project Thranymqdm martyr, hardness and high technology, the first stage of a motor with a diameter of about 3.5 m and a length of 20 m was used.

Department of Defense Security Fars News Agency - martyr Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam, the head Sunday 21 Persian date Aban 90 Commander Jihad Self-Sufficiency Organization of Islamic Revolution Iranian Revolutionary Guards during one of the most important projects in the aerospace industry in the wake of a rocket explosion along with some of the guards was killed.

Evidence suggests that this project was one of the most effective projects pursued by the great martyr.

OK taking the risk of being that guy who says: Iran can blab about LEO, MEO and GEO targets all day long but highlighted words make it pretty clear what the true nature of the vehicle is  :P

The translator made it a little confusing!

Indeed 2nd , 3rd and ... Stages came from a solid fuel ICBM ...

But it doesn't mean that way!

We are civilized people like others...
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #30 on: 11/24/2014 12:19 pm »
OK taking the risk of being that guy who says: Iran can blab about LEO, MEO and GEO targets all day long but highlighted words make it pretty clear what the true nature of the vehicle is  :P

Didn't every other country (except perhaps Japan) create missile programs for defense initially and then used it for space exploration? (even that has military applications, i.e. surveillance satellites).

What is astonishing to me is that Dr. Ommi (not an anonymous by the way, rather one of the designers in general Tehrani's team) has given out such critical information out on a radio program. I doubt he is lying. But current state of the program (success level, future funding, conversion into a final launcher) is still under question.
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #31 on: 12/19/2014 03:43 pm »
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Re: Iranian Ghaem solid fuel Space Launch Vehicle
« Reply #32 on: 12/20/2014 07:28 am »
Am I right in guessing that Ghaem means Lion in Persian?
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