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A deal has been reached but the bill hasn't yet been posted:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/226558-deal-on-funding-bill-reached

It should be posted here tonight:
http://rules.house.gov/

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The CJS summary says this about NASA:

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National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) NASA is funded at $18 billion in
the bill, an increase of $364 million above the fiscal year 2014 enacted level. Within this total,
$4.4 billion is provided for Exploration, including funding to keep the Orion Multi-Purpose
Crew Vehicle and Space Launch System on schedule.

http://appropriations.house.gov/uploadedfiles/cjs_press_summary.pdf
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Here is the text of the appropriation bill (NASA starts at page 173):
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20141208/CPRT-113-HPRT-RU00-HR83sa.pdf
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Quote from: page 176 of the bill
Provided, That not less
11 than $1,194,000,000 shall be for the Orion Multi-Purpose
12 Crew Vehicle: Provided further, That not less than
13 $2,051,300,000 shall be for the Space Launch System,
14 which shall have a lift capability not less than 130 metric
15 tons and which shall have an upper stage and other core
16 elements developed simultaneously: Provided further, That
17 of the funds made available for the Space Launch System,
18 $1,700,000,000 shall be for launch vehicle development
19 and $351,300,000 shall be for exploration ground sys-
20 tems:

Quote from: page 177 of the bill
18 Provided further, That
19 $805,000,000 shall be for commercial spaceflight activi-
20 ties: Provided further, That $306,400,000 shall be for ex-
21 ploration research and development.

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The Report (NASA starts at page 30 on the report or page 42 of the PDF):
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20141208/113-HR83sa-ES-B.pdf
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The Report (NASA starts at page 30):
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20141208/113-HR83sa-ES-B.pdf

Thanks for the updates on this.

"Planetary Science.-In lieu of any amounts included for specific Planetary Science
activities in the House and Senate reports, the agreement provides $255,800,000 for Planetary
Science Research, including $165,400,000 for Research and Analysis and $40,000,000 for Near
Earth Object Observations; $255,000,000 for Discovery, including not less than $25,000,000 for
Future Discovery Missions; $286,000,000 for New Frontiers, including not less than $5,000,000
for Future New Frontiers Missions and $224,800,000 for OSIRIS-Rex; $305,000,000 for Mars
Exploration, including not less than $100,000,000 for a Mars 2020 Rover that meets scientific
objectives laid out in the most recent Planetary Science decadal survey; $181 ,000,000 for Outer
Planets, including not less than $100,000,000 for a Jupiter Europa mission as described in the
House report; and $155,000,000 for Technology, including $18,000,000 for technologies for the
study and characterization of the surface and subsurface of Europa as described in the House
report. NASA shall follow direction from the House and Senate reports regarding the Europa
Mission and its potential launch vehicle. Funding pro~eglfs for the planning of a mission in
line with the Planetary Science decadal survey, including an evaluation of
SLS as the baseline launch vehicle."

also

SPACE OPERATIONS
"This Act includes $3,827,800,000 for Space Operations. Any reduction below the request
for the International Space Station should be taken from the operations budget and not from
research, or crew and cargo transportation. The agreement does not include direction in the
Senate report regarding certified cost and price data for the second round of cargo supply
contracts."

and

"Space and Flight Support.-The agreement provides $45,900,000 for the 21st Century
Space Launch Complex program, including funding above the request in support of Senate
direction for the Wallops Flight Facility."
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On page 33 of the Report (or 46 of the PDF), the Shelby language requiring certified cost and pricing for commercial crew and cargo has been removed. Good news, the commercial crew poison pill is gone.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
Commercial Crew Program (CCP).-The agreement includes $805,000,000 for the CCP.
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding transparency on cost and
pricing data.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding certified cost and price data for the second round of cargo supply contracts.
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On page 33 of the Report (or 46 of the PDF), the Shelby language requiring certified cost and pricing for commercial crew and cargo has been removed. Good news, the commercial crew poison pill is gone.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
Commercial Crew Program (CCP).-The agreement includes $805,000,000 for the CCP.
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding transparency on cost and
pricing data.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding certified cost and price data for the second round of cargo supply contracts.

BTW, that says cargo, not crew.

Cheers, Martin

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On page 33 of the Report (or 46 of the PDF), the Shelby language requiring certified cost and pricing for commercial crew and cargo has been removed. Good news, the commercial crew poison pill is gone.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
Commercial Crew Program (CCP).-The agreement includes $805,000,000 for the CCP.
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding transparency on cost and
pricing data.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding certified cost and price data for the second round of cargo supply contracts.

BTW, that says cargo, not crew.

Cheers, Martin

It says both.  There are two quotes there.  The first refers to crew and the second to cargo -- just as yg1968 said.

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On page 33 of the Report (or 46 of the PDF), the Shelby language requiring certified cost and pricing for commercial crew and cargo has been removed. Good news, the commercial crew poison pill is gone.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
Commercial Crew Program (CCP).-The agreement includes $805,000,000 for the CCP.
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding transparency on cost and
pricing data.

Quote from: page 33 of the report or page 46 of the PDF
The agreement does not include direction in the Senate report regarding certified cost and price data for the second round of cargo supply contracts.

BTW, that says cargo, not crew.

Cheers, Martin

It says both.  There are two quotes there.  The first refers to crew and the second to cargo -- just as yg1968 said.
OK, thanks.

Cheers, Martin

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Looks like some serious arm-twisting at the end on the procedural rule vote in the House.

Reference:
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/226800-house-narrowly-passes-rule-for-cromnibus
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The House has re-convened for the balance of debate on the "cromnibus" spending bill.  Not sure if this means the leadership has the votes to pass it and send it to the Senate; if not, some kind of short(er)-term continuing resolution is predicted to pass both chambers tonight.

Edit: House voting now, three-month CR is the option if it doesn't pass --
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/226897-house-moves-to-vote-on-11t-package-with-backup-plan-in-place
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It's being carried live on C-Span radio:
http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=radio
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Passed the House, 219-206.

http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20141211&today=20141211
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9:38:51 P.M.    H.R. 83    On motion that the House agree with an amendment to the Senate amendment Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll no. 563).

Will be reported to the Senate shortly.
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No rush on reporting the bill over to the Senate; Senator Reid announced that the Senate will take up the bill (debate it) beginning tomorrow.  He also said they are looking at a two-day CR to cover the intervening period; however, he didn't project/forecast a time for a vote on the omnibus appropriations bill.

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So do I have this right? Confused about how money goes to ISS operations.

NASA 2015  budget $18,000,000,000

Science: $5,244,700,000
      - James Webb space telescope and other planetary science exploration.
Aeronautics: $651,000,000
      - Includes Spaceflight planning and control.
Space Technology: $596,000,000
      - Looks like overlap with previous, includes Spaceflight planning and control.
Exploration: $4,356,700,000
      - Orion $1,194,000,000
      - SLS $2,051,300,000
      - Commercial Space $805,000,000, I think this is developement as opposed
         to COTS flights for ISS supplies.
      - Exploration $306,400,000
Space Operations: $3,827,800,000
      - Not certain but I think this covers ISS maintenance, Russian delivery of
        personel, COTS supply flights etc.
Education: $119,000,000
Safety, Security, and Mission Services: $2,758,900,000
      - This also covers Space Operations, so I am confused if this includes ISS maintenance etc.
Restoration: $419,100,000
Office of Inspector General: $500,000
Administration Provisions:
      - Comes out of previous programs, not to exceed 5%
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