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Update on the House CR. It will be a clean CR and will last until December:
http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/22/house-gearing-up-for-cr-to-last-until-december/

A clean CR is expected to be passed by the House between September 8th and 19th based on the House's schedule:
http://majorityleader.gov/calendar/113thcongresssecondsession-monthly.pdf
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A clean CR is still expected to be passed later this month:

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Lobbyists said they expect lawmakers to pass a “clean” stopgap bill to avoid a shutdown fight before the election, but are counting on being able to influence the omnibus funding package when it comes out later this year.

http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/business-a-lobbying/216461-lobbyists-prepare-for-busy-two-week-sprint

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"So I would expect there will be a continuing resolution to fund the government from September 30th into early December."

http://news.yahoo.com/us-house-leader-eyes-spending-measure-avert-shutdown-183500594.html

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“The only people talking about a government shutdown are the Democrats and nobody has any interest in doing that, so I think we’ll pass a clean CR [continuing resolution], which would operate the government probably into December,” he told Fox Business Network in an interview.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/216552-mcconnell-gop-wants-clean-funding-bill-to-avoid-shutdown-drama
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...the language regarding financial reporting is in the committee report on the bill, not in the bill itself. The committee report is presented to the full Senate and could affect the amendment process if the bill goes to a conference committee. But the committee report does not have the force of law and if the House should pass a budget bill identical to the Senate's, the Shelby language would not be in it.

One can play that game with Appropriators. Knowing Shelby, I imagine he hopes on many levels that NASA does not abide by the report's language as that would give him ammo for more draconian efforts, ones that would end-up in the FY16 appropriations bill.

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...the language regarding financial reporting is in the committee report on the bill, not in the bill itself. The committee report is presented to the full Senate and could affect the amendment process if the bill goes to a conference committee. But the committee report does not have the force of law and if the House should pass a budget bill identical to the Senate's, the Shelby language would not be in it.

One can play that game with Appropriators. Knowing Shelby, I imagine he hopes on many levels that NASA does not abide by the report's language as that would give him ammo for more draconian efforts, ones that would end-up in the FY16 appropriations bill.

The bill isn't law. I am not sure why NASA would need to abide by it. Furthermore, I doubt that the text in the report will make it in the final conference report.

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CR is expected to be voted on by the House within the next few days (possibly Thursday):

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The House may take up a short-term spending bill to keep the government funded through early December and avoid a shutdown on Oct. 1.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/scheduling/216816-this-week

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A GOP leadership aide Saturday said no final decisions have been made on the exact timing for a continuing resolution vote, but acknowledged “our objective is to get it done quickly.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/gop-leadership-will-move-quickly-to-keep-the-government-open#45o71ir

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...the language regarding financial reporting is in the committee report on the bill, not in the bill itself. The committee report is presented to the full Senate and could affect the amendment process if the bill goes to a conference committee. But the committee report does not have the force of law and if the House should pass a budget bill identical to the Senate's, the Shelby language would not be in it.

One can play that game with Appropriators. Knowing Shelby, I imagine he hopes on many levels that NASA does not abide by the report's language as that would give him ammo for more draconian efforts, ones that would end-up in the FY16 appropriations bill.

The bill isn't law. I am not sure why NASA would need to abide by it. Furthermore, I doubt that the text in the report will make it in the final conference report.

I agree with you about the text. However I would point out that the appropriations bill actually produced by the conference committee is almost invariably passed by both houses and becomes law, with all its irrelevant riders, in fact this is the way Frank Wolf inserted his notorious prohibition on communication with China into law.

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The text of the CR should be available tommorow. It should be a clean CR:
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/217036-chairman-this-will-be-a-clean-cr

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Here is the text of the CR released by the House a few hours ago. I don't see anything specific to NASA (other than the fact that spending levels will remain the same as FY 2014):
http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20140908/BILLS-113hjres124-IH.pdf

Here is a summary:
http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=392934

See also this article:
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/217198-house-spending-chief-unveils-clean-plan-to-avoid-government-shutdown
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The fact that there is nothing specific for NASA is a good thing in the sense that there is no Shelby language on commercial crew or no language that requires a downselection to one provider. I don't know for sure but I expect that the CCtCap announcement was being delayed until the text of the CR was released.
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Does this mean there will likely be a shutdown on 11 December?

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I don't know for sure but I expect that the CCtCap announcement was being delayed until the text of the CR was released.

Forgive me for not knowing the details of the US budget process, but can't the CR still be amended? (or is that in principle yes, but in practice no/unlikely) So could NASA be waiting for a CR to actually be passed so they know for sure where they stand? (or at least until December ...)

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I don't know for sure but I expect that the CCtCap announcement was being delayed until the text of the CR was released.

Forgive me for not knowing the details of the US budget process, but can't the CR still be amended? (or is that in principle yes, but in practice no/unlikely) So could NASA be waiting for a CR to actually be passed so they know for sure where they stand? (or at least until December ...)

In theory, amendments could be offered. But my understanding is that few amendments are likely to prevail. The point of having a clean CR is to defer amendments to a later date in order to avoid lengthy debates.

But it's possible that NASA will wait for the CR to have been passed by both the House and Senate. The House is expected to vote on the CR on Thursday; the Senate is expected to vote on it next week. 
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Does this mean there will likely be a shutdown on 11 December?

No they are just punting to a date after the election. A shutdown is unlikely even after the election. Neither party wants one. It is possible that they will just extend the CR in December to March 1st 2015.
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The vote on the CR by the House has been pushed to next week because of an extra funding request by the President for training Syrian rebels:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/217304-white-house-push-to-train-syrian-rebels-ties-up-funding-fight
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