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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #200 on: 05/26/2008 03:46 pm »
Do the "Mini Research Modules" provide any opportunities for research?

Yes, there will be interfaces for connection of scientific equipment in them.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #201 on: 06/09/2008 05:30 am »
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #202 on: 06/09/2008 05:36 am »
Latest RS ISS concept: see this post on another forum :)

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #203 on: 06/09/2008 05:42 am »
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #204 on: 06/09/2008 02:10 pm »
from what i can see in those pics, the MLM will have a docking module attached to extend the single port into 5 more, and then possibly more large modules attached

pretty sweet if it happens

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #205 on: 06/10/2008 12:24 am »


Wow that is quite a ramp up on the Progress launch schedule on top of a doubling of the Soyuz launches. 11 ISS flights a year (7 Progress + 4 Soyuz) in 2010 and 2011 is pretty impressive. Throw in the MLM in 2011 and that's a launch every month. It is going to be quite a contrast to NASA's flight schedule for those years.

« Last Edit: 06/10/2008 12:32 am by Norm Hartnett »
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #206 on: 06/10/2008 02:44 am »
Hum, the plan shows 5 Progress launches in 2008 and Anik’s Schedule of ISS Flight Events dated 02/02/08 shows;
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2008
February 7 - Progress M-63 docking (to Pirs)
May 16 - Progress M-64 docking (to Pirs)
August 14 - Progress M-65 docking (to Zvezda)
September 12 - Progress M-66 docking (to Pirs)
November 28 - Progress M-67 docking (to Zvezda)
However, by 03/31/08 with M-63 flown this had changed to;
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May 16 - Progress M-64 docking (to Pirs)
August 14 - Progress M-01M docking (to Zvezda)
September 12 - Progress M-65 docking (to Pirs)
November 28 - Progress M-66 docking (to Zvezda)
By 04/19/08 the M-01M flight was moved to November and the August Progress flight was dropped.
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May 16 - Progress M-64 docking (to Pirs)
September 12 - Progress M-65 docking (to Pirs)
November 26 - Progress M-01M launch
With the Progress M-63 and M64 flown that only leaves the M-65 and M-01M to fly for a total of 4 Progress flights instead of the 5 planned.

Anik can you shed any light as to why the August flight was dropped? I assume that the M-01M was shifted to a later date due to development problems but the M-65 was originally scheduled for the August slot and should be ready unless there were production problems.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #207 on: 06/15/2008 01:31 pm »
Latest RS ISS concept: see this post on another forum :)

AFAIK, these are RSC Energia, and not Roskosmos, plans for the future. So, I would not consider these as official dates and projects, but rather what Energia would like to see happen.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #208 on: 06/15/2008 04:21 pm »
I see from this image MRM1, MRM2 and MLM launching as planned, as well as a small node and two new module either side of the node where the small solar arrays are attached on both sides. Does anyone know what these two modules will be used for? I suppose if those UK habitation modules don't get considered seriously then these would be useful for that purpose...

If they can afford it, this extension would be useful as there would be much more room on the russian side and also it allows for 5 Soyuz/Progress docking ports:

1. Zvezda aft port
2. MRM2 zenith port
3. MRM1 nadir port
4. Russian node module nadir port
5. Russian node modulke aft port

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #209 on: 06/15/2008 07:45 pm »
All is explained in this post on page 10 of this thread.
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #210 on: 06/15/2008 08:18 pm »
Anik can you shed any light as to why the August flight was dropped?

After successful launch and docking of Jules Verne cargo ship Roskosmos has decided to economize one Progress and postponed it to the next year.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #211 on: 06/15/2008 09:07 pm »
All is explained in this post on page 10 of this thread.

Ah thanks!  :)

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #212 on: 06/16/2008 08:30 pm »
Anik can you shed any light as to why the August flight was dropped?

After successful launch and docking of Jules Verne cargo ship Roskosmos has decided to economize one Progress and postponed it to the next year.

Ha, I was about to post that it was possible that because ATV1 was so successful http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEM6IZUG3HF_index_0.html the Progress had been postponed. Good to see that the old gray matter is still semi-functional.

Thanks Anik.
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #213 on: 07/11/2008 06:20 pm »
Some detailed info about MRM-2 is published on http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/306/11.shtml

Mass - 4000 kg
Diameter - 2.6 m
Length - 4.6 m
Pressurized volume - 12.5 cubic meter
Mass of delivered cargoes - up to 1000 kg
Volume for storage of cargoes inside pressurized volume - up to 2.5 cubic meter
One workplace for the scientific equipment on an external surface of the module

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #214 on: 07/11/2008 09:05 pm »
Thanks anik!

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #215 on: 07/12/2008 01:23 am »
Is the launch schedule on page 10 still relevant? Only part of the NK article is online  :'(

Some detailed info about MRM-2 is published on http://www.novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/content/numbers/306/11.shtml
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #216 on: 07/12/2008 07:39 am »
There's some talk about MRM2 on the latest article on NASA.gov about the russian  spacewalks:

"After relaxing a bit Friday, Volkov and Kononenko will prepare their Russian Orlan spacesuits and tools for a second spacewalk on Tuesday, July 15. During the 5.5-hour spacewalk, the spacewalkers will remove and install science experiments, as well as install rendezvous equipment for an upcoming Russian mission. That mission scheduled for next summer will see an automated docking of a Russian airlock compartment module."
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #217 on: 07/12/2008 08:48 am »
Is the launch schedule on page 10 still relevant?

Yes. But IM1 is MRM-2 now, IM2 is MRM-1 now, MRM-1 will fly on STS-132, IM3-1 and IM3-2 are obviously cancelled.

The current schedule:

August 15, 2009 - Progress M-SO2 launch (with MRM-2 [МИМ-2]) by Soyuz-FG rocket
April 8, 2010 - Discovery (STS-132) launch (with MRM-1 [МИМ-1])
December 2011 - MLM [МЛМ] launch by Proton-M rocket
2013 - Progress M-UM launch (with Node Module [УМ]) by Soyuz-2.1b rocket
2014 - Science-Power Module No. 1 [НЭМ-1] launch by Proton-M (or Angara A5) rocket
2015 - Science-Power Module No. 2 [НЭМ-2] launch by Proton-M (or Angara A5) rocket
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #218 on: 07/12/2008 09:06 am »
so there will be science power modules after all? what are they? something like SPP (which was cancelled in 2006 I believe)?
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #219 on: 07/12/2008 11:30 am »
Do the new Science Power Modules launch with the solar arrays attached as seen in the diagram below?


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