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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #280 on: 02/09/2009 02:25 pm »
Oops, I read it the wrong way around... you're correct, it's still 2011, though they're now aiming for December, which is almost certain to slip to early 2012.
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #281 on: 02/14/2009 01:32 am »
By the way, what ever happened to the 37KE line?  they were supposed to start cranking them out by the hand full, however after Kvant-1 nothing was heard of them.

Another flew in orbit in 1988.
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Really? I didn't think that flight (assuming we are talking of the same flight) had a payload.

The Buran flight carried a 37K payload, which carried much of the telemetry units plus some batteries.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #282 on: 02/14/2009 11:58 pm »
I was under the impression that the PLB was empty, with the telemetry systems in the mid-deck.

Out of interest, and quite off topic, how was Buran meant to be loaded with payload. I guess it would be while horizontal before rollout, but would like confirmation. The images of the pad at Baikonour never showed anything analogous to the RSS of LC-39.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #283 on: 02/15/2009 01:00 am »
I was under the impression that the PLB was empty, with the telemetry systems in the mid-deck.

I believe that this is an image of the payload:


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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #284 on: 02/15/2009 03:18 pm »
Excellent, thank you.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #285 on: 03/16/2009 11:42 pm »
What is to be the fate of the Pirs module? This Russian segment diagram for 2011 shows it moved to the top of the Zvezda module, but this 2009 NASA ISS calendar diagram shows it replaced by MRM-2, so is Pirs ultimately to be replaced by MRM-2?

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #286 on: 03/17/2009 12:48 am »
What is to be the fate of the Pirs module? This Russian segment diagram for 2011 shows it moved to the top of the Zvezda module, but this 2009 NASA ISS calendar diagram shows it replaced by MRM-2, so is Pirs ultimately to be replaced by MRM-2?

Pirs will be replaced in the airlock function by Mini-Research Module 2, which will also be the Zvezda zenith docking module.  the Multipurpose Laboratory Module will act as a docking compartment for Zvezda nadir

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #287 on: 03/17/2009 01:10 am »
What is to be the fate of the Pirs module? This Russian segment diagram for 2011 shows it moved to the top of the Zvezda module, but this 2009 NASA ISS calendar diagram shows it replaced by MRM-2, so is Pirs ultimately to be replaced by MRM-2?

Pirs will be replaced in the airlock function by Mini-Research Module 2, which will also be the Zvezda zenith docking module.  the Multipurpose Laboratory Module will act as a docking compartment for Zvezda nadir
Yes, MRM-2 will eventually replace Pirs, but from late 2009 until when MLM is on orbit, Pirs and MRM-2 will be at ISS together nadir and zenith respectively on Zvezda.

How Pirs will be undocked and disposed of is the question when it is replaced by MLM.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #288 on: 03/17/2009 01:44 am »
How Pirs will be undocked and disposed of is the question when it is replaced by MLM.

Use a Progress? Leave it attached to Pirs and undock Pirs with Zvezda.

The Progress would need to keep a lot more propellant onboard to deorbit the increased total mass, but it seems a logical way to do it.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #289 on: 04/01/2009 11:10 am »
Yes, Pirs will be taken away from the station and deorbited by the last Progress that docks via Pirs before the arrival of MLM. That shouldn't be a problem for the thrusters since even the much bigger "Mir" was deorbited by a progress, too.
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #290 on: 04/01/2009 06:32 pm »
Yes, Pirs will be taken away from the station and deorbited by the last Progress that docks via Pirs before the arrival of MLM. That shouldn't be a problem for the thrusters since even the much bigger "Mir" was deorbited by a progress, too.
MSSpace...

This will be the first module of the ISS to be de-orbited and replaced, although Pirs has long exceeded it's 5 year life span. It will be interesting to see if MRM2 is much different to it's predecessor...

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #291 on: 04/01/2009 10:32 pm »
Yes, Pirs will be taken away from the station and deorbited by the last Progress that docks via Pirs before the arrival of MLM. That shouldn't be a problem for the thrusters since even the much bigger "Mir" was deorbited by a progress, too.
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Depending on how much trash is loaded into Pirs before de-orbit, the added mass shouldn't cause much more than 150 kg or so of extra prop to be needed by Progress for the de-orbit.

On the other hand, although Progress has de-orbited large objects before, it has never removed a docked object from the vicinity of another object; meaning that there is a small risk that the Progress software may not be able to accommodate this new environment. I don't think that TORU would be available in this event, so everyone will be hoping that any off-nominal situations would be resolved by the Progress-Pirs complex just sort of drifting away from ISS, until it is sufficiently distant for the de-orbit maneuver.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #292 on: 04/02/2009 11:27 pm »
Tour of the Service module and docking compartment courtesy of Charles Simonyi and Space Adventures

http://www.charlesinspace.com/Uploads/Image/Galleries/highres/04.01.09%20ISS%20Tour%20(large)1.mov

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #293 on: 04/09/2009 12:10 pm »
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #294 on: 04/09/2009 02:09 pm »
Tour of the Service module and docking compartment courtesy of Charles Simonyi and Space Adventures

http://www.charlesinspace.com/Uploads/Image/Galleries/highres/04.01.09%20ISS%20Tour%20(large)1.mov

Great videos, especially the "how to wash your hair in micro gravity" film.  I was going to say something about him being stuck sleeping in the Pirs airlock, until I saw the window.  Talk about a room with a view!
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #295 on: 05/02/2009 11:48 am »
When did this big change happen? Progress on Proton? MRM-2 design radically changed?

From today's ISS Status Report:

"11/10/09 -- 5R/MRM2 (Russian Mini Research Module, MIM2) on Proton -- tentative"
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #296 on: 05/02/2009 01:20 pm »
When did this big change happen? Progress on Proton? MRM-2 design radically changed?

It is nonsense, Progress M-MIM2 cargo ship-module will go on Soyuz-U rocket as Progress M-SO1 in 2001.

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #297 on: 05/02/2009 05:26 pm »
When did this big change happen? Progress on Proton? MRM-2 design radically changed?

It is nonsense, Progress M-MIM2 cargo ship-module will go on Soyuz-U rocket as Progress M-SO1 in 2001.

Unfortunately, the "Significant Events Ahead" section of the ISS Status Reports is not always reliable. For example, it describes the coming Progress undocking as Progress M-01M. In fact it is Progress M-66, M-01M undocked in February. My advice: stick to anik's ISS events thread, his sources are much more reliable. :)

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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #298 on: 05/02/2009 05:39 pm »
My advice: stick to anik's ISS events thread, his sources are much more reliable. :)

That I should do, certainly... wow, how can anybody writing those expansive reports change what was alright, and rewrite it in such a way? Thanks for the clarification, anik.
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Re: Russian Segment
« Reply #299 on: 05/02/2009 05:57 pm »
how can anybody writing those expansive reports change what was alright, and rewrite it in such a way?

All very simply.

April 21, 2009

http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/somd/reports/iss_reports/2009/04212009.html

"11/10/09 -- Soyuz 5R/MRM2 (Russian Mini Research Module, MIM2) on Soyuz -- tentative"

April 22, 2009

http://www.nasa.gov/directorates/somd/reports/iss_reports/2009/04222009.html

"11/10/09 -- 5R/MRM2 (Russian Mini Research Module, MIM2) on Proton -- tentative"

The source of this mistaken changing is...

Consolidated Launch Manifest

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/structure/iss_manifest.html#

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