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MEDIA ADVISORY : M11-073
 
NASA To Announce Awards For Commercial Crew Development
 
WASHINGTON -- NASA will host a media teleconference at 4:30 p.m. EDT on Monday, April 18, to announce awards for the second round of the Commercial Crew Development (CCDev2) effort.

These awards are a continuation of NASA's CCDev initiatives begun in 2009 to stimulate efforts within U.S. industry to develop and demonstrate human spaceflight capabilities. The selected proposals will advance commercial crew space transportation system concepts and mature the design and development of elements, including launch vehicles and spacecraft.

Teleconference participants are:
-- Philip McAlister, acting director, Commercial Spaceflight Development, NASA Headquarters, Washington
-- Edward Mango, program manager, Commercial Crew Program, Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
-- Andrew Hunter, deputy chief financial officer, NASA Headquarters

To participate in the teleconference, reporters need to e-mail their name, media affiliation and telephone number to Michael Braukus at [email protected] by 3 p.m. EDT, Monday, April 18.

Audio of the teleconference will be streamed live on NASA's website at:
http://www.nasa.gov/newsaudio

For more information about NASA's Commercial Crew Program, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/exploration


http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2011/apr/HQ_M11-073_CCDev.html

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Thread will be opened just before the telecon.

Will need help from those able to listen in to post the results on the telecon as I'll need to write an article.

Pre-announcement discussion thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=24849.0
« Last Edit: 04/18/2011 07:48 pm by Chris Bergin »

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #2 on: 04/18/2011 08:04 pm »
What we know before hand:

I can contribute one bit of official news to make the thread relevant again: t/Space lost.  There, I've released that information in advance of the NASA press conference!

Orbital also lost, I think it's safe to note too.

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #3 on: 04/18/2011 08:25 pm »
RELEASE: 11-102

NASA AWARDS NEXT SET OF COMMERCIAL CREW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS

WASHINGTON -- NASA has awarded four Space Act Agreements in the second
round of the agency's Commercial Crew Development (CCDev2) effort.
Each company will receive between $22 million and $92.3 million to
advance commercial crew space transportation system concepts and
mature the design and development of elements of their systems, such
as launch vehicles and spacecraft.

The selectees for CCDev2 awards are:
-- Blue Origin, Kent, Wash., $22 million
-- Sierra Nevada Corporation, Louisville, Colo., $80 million
-- Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX), Hawthorne, Calif., $75
million
-- The Boeing Company, Houston, $92.3 million

"We're committed to safely transporting U.S. astronauts on
American-made spacecraft and ending the outsourcing of this work to
foreign governments," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said. "These
agreements are significant milestones in NASA's plans to take
advantage of American ingenuity to get to low-Earth orbit, so we can
concentrate our resources on deep space exploration."

The goal of CCDev2 is to accelerate the availability of U.S.
commercial crew transportation capabilities and reduce the gap in
American human spaceflight capability. Through this activity, NASA
also may be able to spur economic growth as potential new space
markets are created.

Once developed, crew transportation capabilities could become
available to commercial and government customers.

"The next American-flagged vehicle to carry our astronauts into space
is going to be a U.S. commercial provider," said Ed Mango, NASA's
Commercial Crew Program manager. "The partnerships NASA is forming
with industry will support the development of multiple American
systems capable of providing future access to low-Earth orbit."

These awards are a continuation of NASA's CCDev initiatives, which
began in 2009 to stimulate efforts within U.S. industry to develop
and demonstrate human spaceflight capabilities. For more information
about NASA's Commercial Crew Program, visit:



http://www.nasa.gov/exploration   



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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #5 on: 04/18/2011 08:29 pm »
So I guess as noted on the other thread about S/C systems perhaps not as critical, Paragon got a temporary 'snub'.

(hence my thought that the available funds simply aren't enough to go around for proper funding)
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #6 on: 04/18/2011 08:30 pm »
Seems like as good of a selection that one could have hoped for, although I'm not sure what Blue Origin's proposal was.

I like that CCDEV-2 seems much more targeted at actual spacecraft development vs the more esoteric CCDEV-1 awards. But that was probably by design.

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #7 on: 04/18/2011 08:30 pm »
Blue Origin's project was about a LAS, wasn't it? Would SpaceX LAS include a NOFBX subsystem, the founder used to work for them and has put a Dragon in all it's presentations? It would push the Dragon and the NOFBX at the same time ;)

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #8 on: 04/18/2011 08:31 pm »
Starting telecon

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #9 on: 04/18/2011 08:32 pm »
(hence my thought that the available funds simply aren't enough to go around for proper funding)
They gave 269.3, vs the expected 275. Either they reduced according to budget, or they save some 5M for internal overhead.

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #10 on: 04/18/2011 08:32 pm »
For once I AM GLAD that ATK got snubbed.

(of course all things come full circle, so they're likely to get more lucrative contracts in the future, but of course that's OT...)
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #11 on: 04/18/2011 08:32 pm »
going to summarize CCDEV 1, and then go to CCDev-2

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #12 on: 04/18/2011 08:34 pm »
No ULA. Surprised by that.

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #13 on: 04/18/2011 08:35 pm »
About what I thought would happen, but surprised to see ULA not picked this time.

Neither CSTS or Liberty picked. In before possible angry press release from Orrin Hatch about SRBs getting "snubbed". ;D
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Someone please link up the procurement docs just mentioned.
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #15 on: 04/18/2011 08:37 pm »
Give unto Boeing what is Boeing's.

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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #16 on: 04/18/2011 08:39 pm »
No ULA. Surprised by that.

Shouldn't be. The focus was on spacecraft and I noticed that he said all spacecraft were tied to robust launch systems. SpaceX of course uses the Falcon 9. The other 3 all will depend on Atlas-V. Manrating Atlas-V will not be difficult nor terrably expensive.
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #17 on: 04/18/2011 08:40 pm »
End to end system design concepts for CCDev3?
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #18 on: 04/18/2011 08:40 pm »
First question
Kenneth Chang with New York Times

What are your plans for the next round?  Downselecting?

A:  Next efforts are currently in development.  Idea of where we're headed in mid- to late- Summer.  Will not be a downselect from ccdev2.  ...  For the next phase, that will be an open activity for all US companies, we want to proceed with end-to-end desings.
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Re: LIVE: CCDev-2 Awards and Decision Discussion - April 18
« Reply #19 on: 04/18/2011 08:42 pm »
Can someone explain to me why Blue Origin receives funding? I was under the impression they were creating a sub orbital vehicle?

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