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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #760 on: 03/04/2019 02:18 pm »

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #761 on: 03/07/2019 03:24 pm »
Rocket Soyuz-FG no. Ya 15000-070 for Soyuz MS-12:

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #762 on: 03/13/2019 08:58 pm »
Cross-posted:
Launcher serial numbers found so far:
February 21 (16:47) - EgyptSat-A - Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat-M (76031216/??)

Fregat-M serial number anyone??

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #763 on: 03/14/2019 05:50 am »
Cross-posted:
Launcher serial numbers found so far:
February 21 (16:47) - EgyptSat-A - Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat-M (76031216/??)

Fregat-M serial number anyone??
78031216 was the rocket-serial number from Kosmos 2528.
76031216 does not exist (and 76031...)

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #764 on: 03/14/2019 11:26 am »
Cross-posted:
Launcher serial numbers found so far:
February 21 (16:47) - EgyptSat-A - Soyuz-2.1b/Fregat-M (76031216/??)

Fregat-M serial number anyone??
78031216 was the rocket-serial number from Kosmos 2528.
76031216 does not exist (and 76031...)
Serial per http://russianspaceweb.com/egyptsat-a.html

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #765 on: 03/14/2019 12:03 pm »
Serial per http://russianspaceweb.com/egyptsat-a.html

And what? As stated above, Soyuz-2-1B #76031216 does not exist. This wrong number was published in RSC Energia's plan of orders, because Energia wanted to take rocket for EgyptSat-A launch from Russian Ministry of Defence. When Energia got refusal then Roskosmos gave Soyuz-2-1B #Е15000-024, Fregat and 14С737 #112-07 taken from GLONASS program. And Energia should pay for producing of new vehicles.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #766 on: 03/24/2019 04:50 pm »
The rocket manufactured for Spektr-RG was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №19Л. So is that rocket №Л15000-020 (32/135)?
The rocket manufactured for Meteor-M №3 was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №23Л. So is that rocket №Е15000-024 (28/135)?

http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/J3XZLnhhm4dh/
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000132
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000148

As per Vladimir Nesterov's books about Angara rocket, 14Д23 engines have flown on Soyuz-2 rockets in such sequence:

2006: ЛКИ1
2008: ЛКИ3
2009: ЛКИ2
2011: 7Л, 12Л, 8Л, 14Л, 1229200341(9Л)
2012: 1220400346(9Л новый)
2013: 17Л, 16Л, 18Л, 13Л, 20Л, 11Л
2014: 4Л, 35Л, 5Л, 21Л, 22Л, 24Л, 19Л, 31Л, 15Л
2015: 25Л

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #767 on: 03/28/2019 09:54 am »
Progress MS-11
11С517А2 Я15000-122

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #768 on: 03/29/2019 08:15 am »
The rocket manufactured for Spektr-RG was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №19Л. So is that rocket №Л15000-020 (32/135)?
The rocket manufactured for Meteor-M №3 was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №23Л. So is that rocket №Е15000-024 (28/135)?

http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/J3XZLnhhm4dh/
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000132
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000148

As per Vladimir Nesterov's books about Angara rocket, 14Д23 engines have flown on Soyuz-2 rockets in such sequence:

2006: ЛКИ1
2008: ЛКИ3
2009: ЛКИ2
2011: 7Л, 12Л, 8Л, 14Л, 1229200341(9Л)
2012: 1220400346(9Л новый)
2013: 17Л, 16Л, 18Л, 13Л, 20Л, 11Л
2014: 4Л, 35Л, 5Л, 21Л, 22Л, 24Л, 19Л, 31Л, 15Л
2015: 25Л

So if I understand things…

Engine №1221900338(6Л) was to be used on a Soyuz-2.1b rocket in 2011; whilst engine №1229200341(9Л) was to be used on the Soyuz-ST-B launched in 2012. Both engines were defective. The Soyuz-ST-B had its engine substituted with №1220400346. №1229200341 was repaired and fitted to the Soyuz-2.1b.

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- по договору от 25.01.2011 №6218 - акт выполненных работ на изготовление двигателя 14Д23 №9Л зав. №1220400346 от 30.03.2011, дата выпуска по формуляру на двигатель 26.02.2011 (прошел летные испытания в составе РН (ракетоносителя) 12.10.2012 года). Указанный двигатель изготовлен вместо ранее поставленного двигателя 14Д23 №9Л зав. №1229200341, изготовленного по договору от 27.10.2008 №5794 (дата выпуска по формуляру - 24.01.2010) и признанного непригодным для использования по назначению  заключением комиссии №93-ВР-2010 (в составе исполнителя, заказчика, ген. заказчика);


- по договору от 25.01.2011 №6219 - акт выполненных работ на проведение работ по устранению дефекта сопла камеры, изготовление новой камеры и ДСЕ, необходимых для ее замены на двигателе 14Д23 №9Л зав. №1229200341, подготовка двигателя для проведения КТИ от 31.03.2011, технический акт №420-12-2011 по этапу договора от 25.01.2011 №6219. Двигатель был поставлен в ЦСКБ Прогресс 19.11.2011 взамен ранее изготовленного двигателя 14Д23 №6 Л зав. №1221900338 по договору от 25.08.2008 №5772 и отправленного в ЦСКБ Прогресс в ноябре 2008 года.
http://www.sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/3ccKrVhSL3Nv/
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #769 on: 03/29/2019 09:01 am »
So if I understand things…

Engine №1221900338(6Л) was to be used on a Soyuz-2.1b rocket in 2011; whilst engine №1229200341(9Л) was to be used on the Soyuz-ST-B launched in 2012. Both engines were defective. The Soyuz-ST-B had its engine substituted with №1220400346. №1229200341 was repaired and fitted to the Soyuz-2.1b

Engines 6Л and 9Л could not be used for launches due to defects. But 9Л was repaired and used. It failed.

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Из представленной информации проверяющие установили, что на ранее изготовленных двигателях 14Д23 №6Л и №9Л были выявлены искажения профиля внутренней стенки сопел верхних и подколлекторной части зоны высокого давления на КС4 (камеры сгорания) двигателя 6Л и КС1 двигателя 9Л. Заключением комиссии №93-ВР-2010 (в составе исполнителя, заказчика, ген. заказчика) двигатели признаны непригодными для использования по назначению. Согласно решению №139-ВР-2010, в соответствии с выводами комиссии, выявленные дефекты были признаны единичными и на задел двигателей не распространяющимися

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #770 on: 03/29/2019 09:18 am »
Some quotes from Nesterov's books:

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Кроме того, при проведении КТИ двигателя №10Л в 2010 году произошел также отказ из-за разрушения верхнего сопла вследствие неспаев 2 ребер между канавками наружной стенки

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23 декабря 2011 года при пуске РН "Союз-2.1б" с КА "Меридиан" двигатель №1229200341 отработал в полете 135 с, после чего произошло разрушение камер №3 и №2

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По результатам анализа дефекта двигателя №10Л была внедрена измененная конструкция сопла, направленная на повышение технологичности и прочности

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #771 on: 03/29/2019 09:19 am »
Figure with serial numbers of 14Д23 engines and their tests.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #772 on: 04/01/2019 10:40 am »
Progress MS-11
11С517А2 Я15000-122


00:29 min---->Я15000-036 (Ya15000-036)
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #773 on: 04/01/2019 08:58 pm »
Google translation:
"Two Soyuz 2.1 missiles were delivered to Baikonur, a source at the cosmodrome told RIA Novosti. These are the first carriers who arrived here after a recent accident.

A train arrived from Samara, which delivered two Soyuz launch vehicles to the cosmodrome: Soyuz-2-1b, intended for the Egyptian satellite EgyptSat-A scheduled for December 27, and Soyuz-2-1a, which on February 8, 2019, the Progress MS-11 cargo ship should be put into orbit, the agency’s source said.

According to him, both launches will be held from the 31st platform."

https://ria.ru/science/20181019/1531018489.html

Progress MS-11 with Soyuz 2.1a!

This one?
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РН «Союз-2-1а» № Я15000-036 (8/140) с СЗБ 11С517А2 № Я15000-122 (4/145)
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/44fz/filestore/public/1.0/download/rgk2/file.html?uid=7C2BB9EE0777003CE0530A86120D6C9C
Yes !

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #774 on: 04/02/2019 05:50 pm »
fairing Soyuz-STB 4.04.2019
H15000-040 (=N15000-040)

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #775 on: 04/05/2019 07:46 am »
Serial per http://russianspaceweb.com/egyptsat-a.html

And what? As stated above, Soyuz-2-1B #76031216 does not exist. This wrong number was published in RSC Energia’s plan of orders, because Energia wanted to take rocket for EgyptSat-A launch from Russian Ministry of Defence. When Energia got refusal then Roskosmos gave Soyuz-2-1B #Е15000-024, Fregat and 14С737 #112-07 taken from GLONASS program. And Energia should pay for producing of new vehicles.

Е15000-024 had been earmarked for Resurs-P №4.
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=17286.msg1793887#msg1793887

Rocket У15000-038 (1/137) has been taken from GLONASS, and is now assigned to Resurs-P №4.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/order/notice/ep44/view/common-info.html?regNumber=0995000000219000022

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #776 on: 04/05/2019 01:56 pm »
Glonass launch in May will be the 1900th launch of a rocket from the R7 family.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #777 on: 04/06/2019 07:32 pm »
Cross post as this is a new revision of RD-107A and RD-108A (NK-33A, RD-0110 have not yet been transitioned and certified on the new RG-1 formulation yet):

The tests of RD-107 / RD-108 with Naftil (RG-1) are complete. The first series engines have already been delivered by Kuznetsov to RKZ Progress.

UEC https://www.uecrus.com/rus/presscenter/odk_news/?ELEMENT_ID=3003

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03/07/2019
JDC transfers serial rocket engines to new fuel

In Samara Kuznetsov, PJSC (part of the United Engine Corporation of Rostec) successfully completed acceptance tests of the first production set of the RD-107A / RD-108A rocket engines using a new fuel - naphthyl.

In accordance with the state strategy in the field of space exploration, the Roscosmos State Corporation has been tasked with the transition to environmentally friendly rocket fuel, naphthyl, unified for various types of launch vehicles.

JSC "NPO Energomash them. V.P. Glushko ”and PJSC“ Kuznetsov ”performed a set of development and testing of engines using new fuel, as a result of which the efficiency and basic characteristics of RD-107A / RD-108A engines were confirmed. Pilot tests on naphthyl were completed in 2018. In February 2019, PJSC Kuznetsov conducted acceptance tests of the first production kit of the RD-107A / RD-108A engines on naphthyl. These products have been sent to the customer of Progress RCC Progress JSC for installation on the Soyuz-2 launch vehicle.

RD-107 / RD-108 propulsion systems are equipped with stages I and II of all launch vehicles (LV) of the Soyuz family. These engines are mass-produced at PJSC Kuznetsov with design support from the developer of NPO Energomash im. V.P. Glushko. In 2018, the RD-107A / RD-108A rocket engines provided 14 successful launches of Soyuz family rocket launchers from the Baikonur, Vostochny, Plesetsk and Kuru cosmodromes (Guiana Space Center). These rockets launched into orbit spacecraft of Roscosmos, the Ministry of Defense of Russia, commercial satellites under contracts of Glavkosmos JSC and Glavkosmos Launch Services JSC. They delivered to the International Space Station 3 crews of long expeditions and 3 ships with cargoes necessary for the life support of the station.

ROSTEC https://rostec.ru/news/rostekh-perevodit-dvigateli-soyuzov-na-ekologicheski-chistoe-toplivo/

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March 7, 2019
Rostec translates the Soyuz engines into environmentally friendly fuel

United Engine Corporation (UEC) Rostec State Corporation has successfully completed acceptance tests of the first production set of the RD-107A / RD-108A rocket engines on a new fuel - naphtha instead of the previously used kerosene. The first products have already been sent to the customer.

The company "Kuznetsov" (part of the JDC) and the NPO "Energomash them. V.P. Glushko completed the experimental and acceptance tests of the engines of the first and second stages of Soyuz carrier rockets operating on new fuel - naphthyl. This is an environmentally safe type of hydrocarbon fuel with the use of polymeric additives. During the tests, the efficiency and basic characteristics of the engines were confirmed. The RD-107 / RD-108 engines, adapted for the new fuel, have already been sent to the customer - Progress RCC - for installation on the Soyuz-2 launch vehicle.

“The transition to a new type of fuel is part of the modernization program of the Soyuz-2 rocket. Launches using naphthyl as fuel for the first and second stages of the Soyuz were not previously conducted. Technological innovations will reduce the load on the environment and significantly increase the payload put into orbit, ”said Rostekh's executive director Oleg Evtushenko.

RD-107 / RD-108 propulsion systems are equipped with stages I and II of all launch vehicles (LV) of the Soyuz family. The engines are mass-produced at the Kuznetsov enterprise with the development support of the developer, NPO Energomash named after V.P. Glushko. Replacing kerosene with naphthyl is part of the Soyuz-2 missile modernization program for launches from the Vostochny space center. Starts using this type of fuel in the first and second stages of the "Union" have not been conducted before.

In 2018, the RD-107A / RD-108A rocket engines provided 14 successful launches of Soyuz family rocket launchers from the Baikonur, Vostochny, Plesetsk and Kuru cosmodromes (Guiana Space Center). These rockets placed spacecraft of Roskosmos, the Russian Ministry of Defense, commercial satellites into orbit, delivered to the International Space Station three crews of long expeditions and three ships with cargoes necessary for the life support of the station.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #778 on: 04/06/2019 08:10 pm »
Naftil (RG-1) is already used in RD-0124. Only the old engines use T-1 (RD-107A, RD-108A, RD-0110, NK-33).
I believe  ;)



http://engine.space/dejatelnost/engines/rd-14d23-rd-0124a/
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #779 on: 04/12/2019 03:36 pm »
The rocket manufactured for Spektr-RG was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №19Л. So is that rocket №Л15000-020 (32/135)?
The rocket manufactured for Meteor-M №3 was to use 3rd stage engine 14Д23 №23Л. So is that rocket №Е15000-024 (28/135)?

http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/J3XZLnhhm4dh/
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000132
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/contract/contractCard/common-info.html?reestrNumber=0173100007011000148

As per Vladimir Nesterov's books about Angara rocket, 14Д23 engines have flown on Soyuz-2 rockets in such sequence:

2006: ЛКИ1
2008: ЛКИ3
2009: ЛКИ2
2011: 7Л, 12Л, 8Л, 14Л, 1229200341(9Л)
2012: 1220400346(9Л новый)
2013: 17Л, 16Л, 18Л, 13Л, 20Л, 11Л
2014: 4Л, 35Л, 5Л, 21Л, 22Л, 24Л, 19Л, 31Л, 15Л
2015: 25Л

I add that 13Л was 345, as per photo.

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