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Title: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: Satori on 02/08/2007 01:21 am
China is going to build a 4th satellite launch center. See here: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/06/content_5705606.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-02/06/content_5705606.htm)
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: sammie on 02/09/2007 03:44 pm
Im still a bit sceptic about this, I know that plans to build a spacecentre at Hainan for quite some time, but I considered those plans shelved now that China is not competiting anymore in the commercial GTO market. Hainan is not the most hospitable climate and there are quite some minority issues that could delay things. But we'll see what happens...
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: quicker625 on 02/12/2007 02:18 pm
I wish hainan will succeed~
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: edkyle99 on 02/12/2007 04:53 pm
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sammie - 9/2/2007  10:44 AM

Im still a bit sceptic about this, I know that plans to build a spacecentre at Hainan for quite some time, but I considered those plans shelved now that China is not competiting anymore in the commercial GTO market. Hainan is not the most hospitable climate and there are quite some minority issues that could delay things. But we'll see what happens...

My guess is that Hainan could eventually replace XiChang.

China's GTO launchers are busy enough now launching that nation's own navsats, weathersats, comsats, etc. - and the launch rates are increasing.  XiChang has proven to be a risky place from which to conduct launches.  Some people believe that the world's worst space disaster happened there in 1996 when a Long March slammed into a populated village.  China officially reported that dozens of civilians were killed or injured in the accident, but payload personnel who saw the scene thought that the toll must have been higher.  



 - Ed Kyle
Title: Hainan satellite Launch Center
Post by: tappa on 09/24/2007 08:40 am

More info here China plans fourth space launch centre  

Why does China need 4 space launch sites?

Title: Re: Hainan satellite Launch Center
Post by: Satori on 09/24/2007 11:02 am
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tappa - 24/9/2007  3:40 AM

More info here China plans fourth space launch centre  

Why does China need 4 space launch sites?


Some answers in this thread 'Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center' (http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6524&posts=4&start=1)!
Title: Re: Hainan satellite Launch Center
Post by: annu on 09/25/2007 05:38 am
This is a different querry.

Does anyone here knows where is the Chinese Ground station for downloading Remote Sensing data?
Title: Re: Hainan satellite Launch Center
Post by: tappa on 09/25/2007 09:42 am
Thanks Rui, sorry I missed the previous thread.
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: kraisee on 09/26/2007 05:10 am
The coastal location near the city of Wenchang offers the option to be able to launch either Easterly or Polar launches out into considerable bodies of water - this is a major benefit regarding safety in case of accidents.

The interesting question I'd like an answer to is *what* exactly are they planning to launch from there?   Existing launchers or something new?

Ross.
Title: RE: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: MartianBase on 09/27/2007 10:01 pm
The island Hainan is nearer the equator, it would give payload boost and be better situated for geostationary launches.

Hainan is also where the US-spy plane incident took place and its monsoonal climate could become a problem for launches.

With over 1 Billion people one of China's big problems is over-population. With only a few million Hainan is one of China's least populated areas, so fallout from a failed launch will be much less of a problem.


Five launches have already taken place from this Hainan center, some analysts speculate China might be preparing the center for a future Heavy lift vehicle. Perhaps the first colonists on Mars will be speaking Chinese ?
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: khallow on 10/14/2007 07:42 pm
I seem to recall that they were planning to launch the CZ-5 out of Wenchang. Ah, it was a Wikipedia blurb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenchang_Satellite_Launch_Center):

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Furthermore, it will be capable of launching the new heavy lift CZ-5 booster currently under development. Rail tracks of inland Space Centers will not allow the delivery of the new 5 meters core boosters, which Wenchang will, as it is served by a sea port.

So Wikipedia says, so it must be.
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 10/29/2007 04:58 pm
From Xinhua, Six thousand people to be resettled to make way for new space launch center (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-10/29/content_6971942.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: edkyle99 on 10/31/2007 06:34 pm
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khallow - 14/10/2007  2:42 PM

I seem to recall that they were planning to launch the CZ-5 out of Wenchang. Ah, it was a Wikipedia blurb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenchang_Satellite_Launch_Center):

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Furthermore, it will be capable of launching the new heavy lift CZ-5 booster currently under development. Rail tracks of inland Space Centers will not allow the delivery of the new 5 meters core boosters, which Wenchang will, as it is served by a sea port.

So Wikipedia says, so it must be.

Here it is from a more "official" source, Xinhua.

"The Long March 5 rockets will lift off from a new space launch center in Wenchang, in the southern island province of Hainan. The new center, the fourth in China, is expected to be completed in 2012 and formally put into use in 2013."

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-10/31/content_6984931.htm

 - Ed Kyle
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: CFE on 11/05/2007 03:09 am
I'm wondering about what trajectories are available for high-inclination launches out of Wenchang.  Ideally, you'd want to launch to the southwest, but that would take you over Southeast Asia (hmm, something sounds familiar about China dropping rockets over Vietnam.)  You've got a clear shot to the southeast, though.
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: hesidu on 11/05/2007 04:22 am
No, Vietnum is at southwest of Hainan,Wenchang. If Wenchang launch GTO or LEO satellites, it will shut to the southeast. So there will be no chance that the rockets will drop over Vietnam. For SSO satellites, they still will be launched in Taiyuan. Until now, there is no heavy SSO payloads for CZ-5.
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 11/18/2007 02:15 pm
From Xinhua, China completes enclosure of land for fourth satellite launch center (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-11/18/content_7098964.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 01/26/2008 01:23 pm
From Xinhua, Chinese taikonaut dismisses environment worries about new space launch center (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-01/26/content_7500262.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Jirka Dlouhy on 01/26/2008 07:45 pm
I think, that Hainan space launch center is necessary, because CZ-5 launchers are strongly heavier than f.e. CZ-3B. Using of this launchers from XiChang is very dangerous.
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Jirka Dlouhy on 01/27/2008 08:06 pm
CZ-5 Space Launch Vehicle

PROGRAMME

Designed and developed by China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology (CALT), the ChangZheng-5 (CZ-5, or Long March-5) is China's next generation space launch vehicle family, which would include a range of classes of launch vehicles for different missions. The CZ-5 project was announced in February 2001, with the initial development officially begining in 2002. China hopes that the CZ-5 would fulfill the requirement for large paylaod LEO and GEO missions in the next 20~30 years, with the first versions of the vehicle going into service by 2008. Chief Designer for the CZ-5 is Long Lehao.

 
The CZ-5 family: ( From left to right) 2.25m diameter launch vehicle; 3.35m diameter launch vehicle (without and with strap-on stages); 5.0m diameter launch vehicle (without and with strap-on stages).

According to the reports, the CZ-5 family will include three primary modular core stages of 2.25 m, 3.35 m and 5.0 m diameter. Boosters of various capabilities would be assembled from three modular core stages and strap-on stages. These would be powered by 1,200 kN thrust LOX/Kerosene engines or 500 kN thrust LOX/LH2 engines.

The CZ-5 series can deliver 1.5 t~25 t payload to LEO, or 1.5 t~14 t payload to GEO. This would replace the CZ-2, CZ-3, and CZ-4 series in service, as well as providing the new capabilities which are not possessed by the current CZ family. The heaviest configuration of the CZ-5 with 5.0 m diameter core stage and four 3.35 m diameter strap-on boosters will be able to send 25 t payload to the low earth orbit, being comparable to the ESA's Ariane 5.

Title: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 03/06/2008 10:46 pm
From Xinhua, Official: China kicks off new space launch center project (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-03/07/content_7734566.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 11/19/2008 04:15 pm
From People's Daily, Construction of Wenchang launch center to begin (http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90781/90876/6536611.html).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 03/02/2009 05:11 pm
From Xinhua, New space launch center to be built in China's southernmost Hainan (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/02/content_10930151.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 03/11/2009 02:15 pm
From People's Daily, China's heavy-duty carrier rocket base to be finished in 2012 (http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90776/90881/6610906.html).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: wbhh on 04/27/2009 11:13 pm
national ZiWu project will share resource with Wenchang launch center
http://www.meridianproject.ac.cn/
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 09/14/2009 09:49 am
From Xinhua, China begins space center construction in southern island of Hainan (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/14/content_12048773.htm).

Backgrounder: China's four space launch bases (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-09/14/content_12050344.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 09/15/2009 09:44 am
From China Daily via People's Daily, Space center takes giant leap forward (http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90781/90876/6757428.html).
Title: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: Satori on 10/29/2009 08:06 am
From Xinhua, China's 4th Satellite Launch Center to be Built in Hainan (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-10/29/content_12356062.htm).
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: summit2 on 03/31/2010 12:49 pm
Following chinese articles, here is what I find with google hearth ... looks like a launch pad 2K ... maybe ....
Title: Re: Hainan satellite Launch Center
Post by: Satori on 01/08/2012 01:05 pm
A new thread dedicated the Hainan Satellite Launch Center where we can have informations, pictures, maps and the history of this Chinese space complex.
Title: Re: Hainan Satellite Launch Center
Post by: input~2 on 01/08/2012 02:07 pm
AFAIU, the full name is Hainan Wenchang Satellite Launch Center, the short form is Wenchang Satellite Launch Center (WSLC)
Title: Re: Hainan Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Satori on 01/08/2012 07:35 pm
AFAIU, the full name is Hainan Wenchang Satellite Launch Center, the short form is Wenchang Satellite Launch Center (WSLC)

Ok, changing the threads title.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 02/06/2012 01:29 am
Some latest photos by Worldview 1 (http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0&catalogId=1020010017451E00&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres) taken on January 19th seems to show that WSLC will feature two VABs and two launch pads, although the resolution is too low to show the details...
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 02/06/2012 03:53 pm
Some latest photos by Worldview 1 (http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0&catalogId=1020010017451E00&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres) taken on January 19th seems to show that WSLC will feature two VABs and two launch pads, although the resolution is too low to show the details...

Could you provide an English version of the captions, please?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 02/06/2012 04:39 pm
Some latest photos by Worldview 1 (http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0&catalogId=1020010017451E00&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres) taken on January 19th seems to show that WSLC will feature two VABs and two launch pads, although the resolution is too low to show the details...

Could you provide an English version of the captions, please?

Here you go (note that the identifications are merely speculation between forum members on a Chinese aerospace forum).
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Phillip Clark on 02/06/2012 04:46 pm
If there are indeed two CZ-5 VABs then I wonder how many vehicles each VAB could accomodate at once?   Maybe four simultaneous assemblies?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 02/06/2012 04:55 pm
If there are indeed two CZ-5 VABs then I wonder how many vehicles each VAB could accomodate at once?   Maybe four simultaneous assemblies?

The big question is whether the CZ-7 series will be launched from WSLC? So far I have not seen a clear answer (even from Chinese soruces).

P.S. The Chinese have little problem with YF-100, their next generation kerolox engine (it's already doing gimballing and acceptance tests right now), but their "half-a-Vulcain" YF-77 engine for the CZ-5 is seriously behind schedule. This, plus that the Chinese has only just completed a prototype for the 5 meter diameter hydrogen fuel tank, means that first launch in 2015 will be hard to hit. And the CZ-7 does not seems to be a priority right now....
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 02/06/2012 09:42 pm
If there are indeed two CZ-5 VABs then I wonder how many vehicles each VAB could accomodate at once?   Maybe four simultaneous assemblies?

The big question is whether the CZ-7 series will be launched from WSLC? So far I have not seen a clear answer (even from Chinese soruces).

P.S. The Chinese have little problem with YF-100, their next generation kerolox engine (it's already doing gimballing and acceptance tests right now), but their "half-a-Vulcain" YF-77 engine for the CZ-5 is seriously behind schedule. This, plus that the Chinese has only just completed a prototype for the 5 meter diameter hydrogen fuel tank, means that first launch in 2015 will be hard to hit. And the CZ-7 does not seems to be a priority right now....

Very interesting.

Just for the record, this showed up this morning:

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http://english.cri.cn/6909/2012/02/05/2821s679220.htm

China's New Rockets Expected to Debut Within Five Years
2012-02-05 21:32:25   
Xinhua     
Web Editor: liuranran

China's new generations of the Long March rocket family, Long March-5, -6 and -7 are expected to make their maiden flights in the next five years, a rocket scientist [, Yu Menglun,] has said.

[snip]

Long March-5 rocket will be using non-toxic and pollution-free propellant. It has a maximum low Earth-orbit payload capacity of 25 tonnes and geosynchronous orbit payload capacity of 14 tonnes.

The Long March-6, which is designed to be a high-speed response launch vehicle, has a minimum of 1 tonne of sun-synchronous orbit payload, according to the scientist.

The Long March-7 has a maximum low Earth-orbit payload capacity of 13.5 tonnes and 5.5 tonnes of sun-synchronous orbit payload, he said.

[snip]

Currently, a fourth launch center is being built in Wenchang in the island province of Hainan. The Wenchang launch center is expected to be put into use within two or three years, according to Yu.

I would like to see some discussion of the requirements that led to the LM-6.  To my eye it looks military, but that's probably just me.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: edkyle99 on 02/06/2012 10:19 pm
Some latest photos by Worldview 1 (http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0&catalogId=1020010017451E00&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres) taken on January 19th seems to show that WSLC will feature two VABs and two launch pads, although the resolution is too low to show the details...

Could you provide an English version of the captions, please?

Here you go (note that the identifications are merely speculation between forum members on a Chinese aerospace forum).

I would not be ready to immediately interpret the image as showing sites for "two VABs".  The diverging path might lead to a parking/service area for mobile launch platforms, for example.  Or it might run to a payload preparation facility.  Etc.  Two completely separate vertical assembly buildings doesn't make sense to me, given the dual high-bay setup at Jiuquan.  Also note that Jiuquan has separate road and rail rights of way running toward the pad areas from different directions. 

 - Ed Kyle
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 02/07/2012 01:28 pm


I would not be ready to immediately interpret the image as showing sites for "two VABs".  The diverging path might lead to a parking/service area for mobile launch platforms, for example.  Or it might run to a payload preparation facility.  Etc.  Two completely separate vertical assembly buildings doesn't make sense to me, given the dual high-bay setup at Jiuquan.  Also note that Jiuquan has separate road and rail rights of way running toward the pad areas from different directions. 

 - Ed Kyle


Does anybody know how much it would cost to buy the high-resolution image from DigitalGlobe?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 02/11/2012 03:28 pm
Some latest photos by Worldview 1 (http://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseMetadata?buffer=1.0&catalogId=1020010017451E00&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres) taken on January 19th seems to show that WSLC will feature two VABs and two launch pads, although the resolution is too low to show the details...

I thought I'd posted this earlier, but don't find it now. At any rate, it's another browse image taken on 5 June 2011. There seems to have been a fair amount of change between then and the Jan 19 image.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/09/2012 01:35 pm
Recent photos of the construction site (credit: [email protected] (http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=202015&fromuid=19646)):
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 06/10/2012 07:15 pm
Recent photos of the construction site (credit: [email protected] (http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=202015&fromuid=19646)):

Translations, por favor.  Also, the X= and Y= in the fourth picture look like they might some sort of geodetic coordinates; are they, and if so, what kind?

And most important of all, what are the good restaurants in the area?  I don't rule out a trip to Hainan once the CZ-5 starts flying.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: vulture4 on 06/28/2012 07:00 pm
The single path splitting at both ends on the photo is very similar to the existing MLP track layout at Jiuquan's South Launch Site 1. At one end the VAB has two bays; at the other there are two launch pads.  A simple and logical arrangement.

Translations (with kind help of Chinese friends)
VAB and launch pad photo labels, top to bottom:

1. Long March 5 assembly building 1
2. Long March 5 assembly building 2
3. Transfer route
4. Launch Complex 1
5. Launch Complex 2

Posts beside road:

Left Post:                                      Right post:
"Restricted area - military base"        "Army construction area"

Sign with numbers:
"Construction Company"
"078 Project number 802"

On plans: "Not for construction" or "Draft only"
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 07/05/2012 06:15 pm
1. Long March 5 assembly building 1
2. Long March 5 assembly building 2
3. Transfer route
4. Launch Complex 1
5. Launch Complex 2

A somewhat belated thanks for the translations.  It seems to me that the most significant parts are the numbers "1" and "2".  Are those signs that some sort of campaign requiring multiple -- or at least two --  launches is contemplated, rather than a series of essentially independent launches?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: byxiao on 07/06/2012 12:59 am
1. Long March 5 assembly building 1
2. Long March 5 assembly building 2
3. Transfer route
4. Launch Complex 1
5. Launch Complex 2

A somewhat belated thanks for the translations.  It seems to me that the most significant parts are the numbers "1" and "2".  Are those signs that some sort of campaign requiring multiple -- or at least two --  launches is contemplated, rather than a series of essentially independent launches?
It's a backup, in fact ,for every mission, they made two spacecrafts, when one failed, they use another as soon as possible, but after launching, launch pad normally need maintenance, so shift to another one.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: vulture4 on 07/06/2012 03:27 am
1. Long March 5 assembly building 1
2. Long March 5 assembly building 2
3. Transfer route
4. Launch Complex 1
5. Launch Complex 2

A somewhat belated thanks for the translations.  It seems to me that the most significant parts are the numbers "1" and "2".  Are those signs that some sort of campaign requiring multiple -- or at least two --  launches is contemplated, rather than a series of essentially independent launches?
It's a backup, in fact ,for every mission, they made two spacecrafts, when one failed, they use another as soon as possible, but after launching, launch pad normally need maintenance, so shift to another one.
Similarly most US pads were duplicates (Delta II, Titan, Shuttle, Atlas) .for backup, maintenance outages and for surge capacity. This changed with Falcon, Atlas V and Delta IV, partly because the on-pad processing and turnaround times and maintenance requirements are lower and partly because there is less need for very high launch rates. China has a backup pad for the LM-2F/G at Jiuquan but notably it was used only for unmanned launches and was apparently not man-rated.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/10/2012 10:56 am
I've got some VERY interesting photos of the construction site at WSLC (from http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=210181&fromuid=19646 (http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=210181&fromuid=19646)), which pretty much confirms the layout of the launch site:

- Two launch pads, apparently one for the CZ-5 and one for the CZ-7. Both pads features a fixed service tower (the one on the bigger pad reaches a height of 91 meters!) with rotating service platforms and a deep flame trench (22 meters deep for the bigger pad)
-TWO VIFs, one for the CZ-5 and one for the CZ-7. The two are linked together by a horizontal "low bay" for rocket storage.
-The spacecraft processing and launch control facilities are just west of the VIBs.
-Construction of the pads and facilities are in full swing, merely 3 years after the construction officially started (2009-09-14). The flame trench is more or less complete, and the service towers are being pieced together.

Photos 1-15 are from the CZ-5 pad site, photos 16-20 are from the CZ-7 pad site.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/10/2012 10:58 am
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/10/2012 11:22 am
An annotated version of photo 6, which shows the facilities of the launch site.

Interestingly the two new tracking stations are located at Tongguling (15 km east of WSLC) and on the Paracel Islands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracel_Islands) ( ::)) ...
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/10/2012 02:35 pm
Turns out that Bing Maps (http://www.bingmaps.com) has clear aerial photos of the future launch site: go to 19°38′N 110°57′E, select aerial mode, and you can see the completed flame trench of the two future launch pads and the construction site of the VIF complex.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 07/10/2012 06:37 pm
- Two launch pads, apparently one for the CZ-5 and one for the CZ-7. Both pads features a fixed service tower (the one on the bigger pad reaches a height of 91 meters!) with rotating service platforms and a deep flame trench (22 meters deep for the bigger pad)

Once more, thanks! 

The CZ-5, according to the Source of All Wisdom, Wikipedia, will be only a bit over 60 meters tall.  So is the pad being built with the idea of accommodating CZ-9 or other BFR, should they appear? Does the size of the flame trench provide any clues as to the maximum thrust at lift-off the pad can handle?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: vulture4 on 07/12/2012 01:07 pm
It looks like the mobile launch platform in the conceptual drawing on the poster runs on tires rather than rails; similar to LC-39 but an unusual choice for such a heavy load. Also the LV in the artist's concept on the display poster appears to be a CZ-7, the medium lift Kerosene/LOX rocket which will be more or less a direct replacement for the CZ-2 and its highly toxic UDMH/N2O2 propellants, and will presumably be the primary LV for the Shenzou.

So apparently there is one assembly building and one pad for the CZ-5 and one set for the CZ-7, and for the moment human launch will probably use only the CZ-7. Has anything been said about when it will be operational?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 11/23/2012 07:20 pm

I just checked out the DigitalGlobe browse images of the Wenchang center and found one taken by QuickBird 2 on 24 October 2012. At the browse resolution, not much change is seen at the launch site itself, but there seems to have been major road construction on the peninsula to the northeast.  Perhaps associated with the intended tourist industry. Image attached, with another QB02 of 5 June 2011 for comparison.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: russianhalo117 on 11/23/2012 08:09 pm

I just checked out the DigitalGlobe browse images of the Wenchang center and found one taken by QuickBird 2 on 24 October 2012. At the browse resolution, not much change is seen at the launch site itself, but there seems to have been major road construction on the peninsula to the northeast.  Perhaps associated with the intended tourist industry. Image attached, with another QB02 of 5 June 2011 for comparison.
I heard that port is planned for the area. No mention was made though as to what entity plans to use it one its built.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 11/23/2012 08:40 pm

I heard that port is planned for the area. No mention was made though as to what entity plans to use it one its built.

As I understand it, the CZ-5 stages are supposed to be shipped by sea to the Wenchang center from the Tianjin rocket factory.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Mighty-T on 11/24/2012 06:56 pm

... from the Tianjin rocket factory.

I'm not sure if it fits this thread, but do we have google maps coordinates for the Tianjin factory?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 11/24/2012 07:50 pm

... from the Tianjin rocket factory.

I'm not sure if it fits this thread, but do we have google maps coordinates for the Tianjin factory?

Thanks!

An interesting question. It's in the Binhai New Area, and there are several big buildings there that might be it.  I'll see if it can be located more accurately. Somewhere around 39.0 N, 117.7 E, I'd guess.
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Post by: limen4 on 12/02/2012 11:17 am
China philatelic websites (see e.g. http://spaceship781.blog.163.com/blog/static/29293097201211261015956/) report that a special souvenir was issued to commemorate the launch of the first rocket carrier ship named Yuanwang-21. The ceremony was held at the Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard on Changxing Island. 
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Post by: 20350902 on 01/09/2013 12:35 pm
Vehicle Assembly Building in Wenchang

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Post by: ChileVerde on 01/16/2013 03:38 pm
Vehicle Assembly Building in Wenchang

I didn't see those pictures until just now; thanks a lot for posting them.  It would appear that the launch center is on its way to meet the 2014 IOC date.
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Post by: ChileVerde on 01/24/2013 06:09 pm

... from the Tianjin rocket factory.

I'm not sure if it fits this thread, but do we have google maps coordinates for the Tianjin factory?

Thanks!

An interesting question. It's in the Binhai New Area, and there are several big buildings there that might be it.  I'll see if it can be located more accurately. Somewhere around 39.0 N, 117.7 E, I'd guess.


After initial failure and holiday interruptions, I remembered to return to this question.  After an inordinate amount of googling, it turned up that the New/Next Generation Rocket Industrial Base (or several other similar names) is in an economic development area of Tianjin called TEDA West.

Quote
Represented by "new generation space vehicle", Aviation industry is located in the northwest group of TEDA West, where to the east is Zhongxin Zhuang Road, to the west is Hangang Road, to the north is Yangbei Road, and to the south is Nanbei Avenue and Jigang Railway. The planned construction area of the project is about 500,000 sq.m.

Wikimapia kindly provides a map showing TEDA West and, going there, there's a recently constructed group of large industrial buildings at 39.072 N, 117.513 E.

I'm fairly sure this is the CZ-5 rocket factory, but could certainly do with a sanity check should any of the readership wish to provide one.

BTW, different sources give areas of the project ranging from 0.5 to 2.0 square kilometers.

Edit: Tidied up TEDA_West image
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Post by: Liss on 01/24/2013 08:21 pm
After initial failure and holiday interruptions, I remembered to return to this question.  After an inordinate amount of googling, it turned up that the New/Next Generation Rocket Industrial Base (or several other similar names) is in an economic development area of Tianjin called TEDA West.

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Represented by "new generation space vehicle", Aviation industry is located in the northwest group of TEDA West, where to the east is Zhongxin Zhuang Road, to the west is Hangang Road, to the north is Yangbei Road, and to the south is Nanbei Avenue and Jigang Railway. The planned construction area of the project is about 500,000 sq.m.

Wikimapia kindly provides a map showing TEDA West and, going there, there's a recently constructed group of large industrial buildings at 39.072 N, 117.513 E.

I'm fairly sure this is the CZ-5 rocket factory, but could certainly do with a sanity check should any of the readership wish to provide one.

Wikimapia says that the large industrial complex at 39.0774 N 117.5134 is the Great Wall Automotive company Tianjing Subsidiary, and the track in the eastern part of it seems to be nice for car races.

4: The vertical acoustic vibration tower at Tianjin

I believe Google Earth shows this under construction in August 2011 at 39.1029 N, 117.5011 E.

This is much more close in my opinion. In maps.google.com and panoramio there are several images for the area, some described as just Tianjin Binhai New Area and others as China Aerospace Long March rocket manufacturing base:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160663
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160715
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160693


Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 01/24/2013 10:27 pm

Quote
I believe Google Earth shows this under construction in August 2011 at 39.1029 N, 117.5011 E.

This is much more close in my opinion. In maps.google.com and panoramio there are several images for the area, some described as just Tianjin Binhai New Area and others as China Aerospace Long March rocket manufacturing base:

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160663
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160715
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/26160693

Thanks indeed -- sanity checks are always worth having.  So it's just the part north of the automotive complex where the rockets are being built? (See attachment.)

Edit: Though not totally unrelated to the Wenchang Satellite Launch Center, this is starting to look like it needs a separate thread. If The Powers That Moderate could do that, it might be a good idea.
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Post by: ChileVerde on 01/30/2013 02:41 pm

Looks like everything is on schedule for starting CZ-5 operations next year.

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http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2013-01/30/content_16185756.htm


Satellite center to put Wenchang on the map
Updated: 2013-01-30 04:12
By HUANG YIMING and WANG QIAN in Haikou ( China Daily)


The construction of the Wenchang Satellite Launch Center in Hainan province, from where China will launch new-generation carrier rockets and future space station modules, is expected to be completed in June, the province's economic planner said.

By the end of this year, the launch center, the fourth in China, will be ready for launching carrier rockets, according to a report released by the Hainan Development and Reform Commission during the ongoing annual session of the provincial people's congress.

Hainan plans to invest nearly 3.3 billion yuan ($530 million) this year into construction of the center and relevant facilities, including a space theme park and nearby infrastructure, the report said.

Of the 3.3 billion yuan, 2.5 billion will be used for the center's construction, the report said.

Pei Chengmin, Party chief of Wenchang, said the center will host its first launch in 2014.

The center will include a launch pad, a rocket assembly plant and a command center.

The Long March-5 launch vehicle designed for transporting heavyweight satellites and space station modules, as well as the Long March-7 rocket designed for launching cargo spacecraft, are expected to blast off from the center in 2014, the Beijing Morning Post quoted Liang Xiaohong, deputy director of the China Academy of Launch Vehicle Technology on Saturday during the annual session of the Beijing municipal people's congress.

<snip>

Besides the launch center, a space theme park and a space research center are also under construction, according to Pei.

He said the construction of the first phase of the park is likely to be finished in 2014, about the same time the center sees its first launch.

The park will give visitors a tram tour of rocket launch pads and offer space-travel attractions, such as a moon-themed train ride and cosmos-themed roller coaster. The park's interplanetary section will be divided into four themed areas — Earth, Lunar, Solar and Martian.

<snip>
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Post by: 20350902 on 02/04/2013 08:54 am
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: limen4 on 02/16/2013 05:54 pm
China philatelic websites (see e.g. http://spaceship781.blog.163.com/blog/static/29293097201211261015956/) report that a special souvenir was issued to commemorate the launch of the first rocket carrier ship named Yuanwang-21. The ceremony was held at the Shanghai Jiangnan Shipyard on Changxing Island. 

... and the second WSLC supply vessel Yuanwang-22 followed on January 24th.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Liss on 03/03/2013 11:29 am
http://www.ecns.cn/2013/03-03/52238.shtml

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China's fourth launch center, located in tropical island province of Hainan, will be ready for space launch in two years, said a member of China's top political advisory body.

The launch center, which has been under construction since 2009, will be able to launch space station capsules and cargo ships, Zhou Jianping, designer-in-chief of China's manned space program, told Xinhua on Saturday.

The carrier rockets to be launched in the Hainan center include Long March-7 and Long March-5, said Zhou, a member of the National Committee of Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC)...

The center will be mainly used for launching synchronous satellites, heavy satellites, large space stations, and deep space probe satellites. It is designed to handle up to 10-12 rocket launches a year.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 03/03/2013 03:29 pm
http://www.ecns.cn/2013/03-03/52238.shtml

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China's fourth launch center, located in tropical island province of Hainan, will be ready for space launch in two years, said a member of China's top political advisory body.

The launch center, which has been under construction since 2009, will be able to launch space station capsules and cargo ships, Zhou Jianping, designer-in-chief of China's manned space program, told Xinhua on Saturday.

The carrier rockets to be launched in the Hainan center include Long March-7 and Long March-5, said Zhou, a member of the National Committee of Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference (CPPCC)...

The center will be mainly used for launching synchronous satellites, heavy satellites, large space stations, and deep space probe satellites. It is designed to handle up to 10-12 rocket launches a year.

Probably best not to make too much of the single occurrence of a word, but it's interesting that "capsules" is used.  Can anybody find the Chinese version of the text and comment on that?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2013 09:09 am
Lots of recent photos (since January) of the launch site under construction - seems to be right on schedule to support a launch next year....  8)

(all photos collected by various forum members at http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-38-32-1.html (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/thread-38-32-1.html))
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2013 09:13 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2013 09:14 am
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2013 09:14 am
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 04/08/2013 01:50 pm
Lots of recent photos (since January) of the launch site under construction - seems to be right on schedule to support a launch next year....  8)

Which will presumably be a CZ-7, the CZ-5 having slipped into 2015 because of manufacturing difficulties, no?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 04/08/2013 04:55 pm
Lots of recent photos (since January) of the launch site under construction - seems to be right on schedule to support a launch next year....  8)

Which will presumably be a CZ-7, the CZ-5 having slipped into 2015 because of manufacturing difficulties, no?

That's right, late 2014 is the target for CZ-7's first flight, and Wenchang is the launch site. See my post in the CZ-NGLV thread.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 04/08/2013 05:33 pm

That's right, late 2014 is the target for CZ-7's first flight, and Wenchang is the launch site. See my post in the CZ-NGLV thread.

Thank you. I often have trouble keeping track of threads. ;)
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Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 05/26/2013 10:33 am
The best model of the launch site I have seen so far:
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Post by: beidou on 07/09/2013 05:45 pm
Some recent pictures (with high resolution) of the construction sites.

http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=257476&fromuid=24484
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ChileVerde on 07/09/2013 06:05 pm
Some recent pictures (with high resolution) of the construction sites.

http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=257476&fromuid=24484

Sorry, I don't see the pictures there and, much to my regret, I failed to learn to read Chinese.  Is there something to click to see the photos?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 07/09/2013 08:20 pm
Some recent pictures (with high resolution) of the construction sites.

http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=257476&fromuid=24484

Sorry, I don't see the pictures there and, much to my regret, I failed to learn to read Chinese.  Is there something to click to see the photos?

The pictures are attached here. I used Google Translate to do all the dirty translation job.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/09/2013 11:35 pm
I think I will like the scenery at this spaceport very much when it opens.  :D

(the building in the first few photos is the LCC)
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 07/11/2013 08:31 pm
More pictures from http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=38&pid=257518&fromuid=24484
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:10 pm
LOTS of new photos of WSLC available since my last post (thanks to member hccccf at the 9ifly Chinese spaceflight and aviation forum for collecting them from various sources!). First up is a panorama of the launch center from the top of the pad 1 service tower:
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:14 pm
Various photos from the construction site:
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:16 pm
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:19 pm
From another (local) member at the forum, this is how the roads and bridges around the spaceport looks like (the bridge crosses through Wenchang port):
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:26 pm
The service towers at both pads and the twin vertical integration bays are now almost complete. The launch site looks more and more like a Chinese version of Kourou......  :)

Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:27 pm
WSLC_92 shows the nearby radar tracking station.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:31 pm
And here's the inside of the rocket processing facilities.  8)
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 10/28/2013 01:36 pm
Last but not least, here's the current construction progress of the various pads, VIFs, LCCs, spacecraft processing facilities and even the future downrange tracking station at the Paracel Islands (WSLC_107).

If you want an overview of how WSLC looks like today, check out the location (19 deg. 38' N, 110 deg. 57' E) in Google Earth and use the historical imagery function to find satellite imagery taken on July 14 of this year!  ;D
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: fatjohn1408 on 11/12/2013 12:25 pm

My guess is that Hainan could eventually replace XiChang.

China's GTO launchers are busy enough now launching that nation's own navsats, weathersats, comsats, etc. - and the launch rates are increasing.  XiChang has proven to be a risky place from which to conduct launches.  Some people believe that the world's worst space disaster happened there in 1996 when a Long March slammed into a populated village.  China officially reported that dozens of civilians were killed or injured in the accident, but payload personnel who saw the scene thought that the toll must have been higher. 



 - Ed Kyle

Well, that brings the minimum death toll to 24 (dozens) even by official reportings. Which disaster would have been worse than that?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Kryten on 11/12/2013 01:21 pm
 The Nedelin incident killed at least 70 people, but it was a missile test, so it being a 'space disaster' is pretty arguable.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Satori on 05/06/2014 04:29 pm
New satellite launch center to conduct joint drill (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-05/06/c_133314322.htm).
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: ximig on 05/07/2014 07:13 am
Coordination Meeting of first launch of CZ-7 & Cargo Ship from W.C. Site

See
http://news.ifeng.com/a/20140507/40188526_0.shtml

waiting and see what will happens :o
Title: Re: Hainan - Wenchang, the 4th chinese launch center
Post by: heinkel174 on 05/08/2014 05:47 am

Well, that brings the minimum death toll to 24 (dozens) even by official reportings. Which disaster would have been worse than that?

The official figure is 6 dead and 57 injured. There’s an excellent article on Space Review discussing the accident.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2323/1
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Post by: luhai167 on 05/09/2014 09:39 am
Here is part 2 of the article

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2326/1
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: JimO on 05/10/2014 12:32 am

The official figure is 6 dead and 57 injured. ...

While at Baikonur in 1996  on a launch client inspection I talked with an American who was at the explosion and his impression was of massive destruction of non-evacuated areas.

Re 'worst', don't overlook 50 dead at Plesetsk in 1980. The argument of the blame for it is, unbelievably, still going on.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 07/14/2014 04:06 pm
The two launch sites have been officially handed over to the launch center operator - Xi'chang Satellite Launch Center (XSLC). source: http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=13158&pid=311757&fromuid=24484
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: russianhalo117 on 07/14/2014 04:10 pm
Last but not least, here's the current construction progress of the various pads, VIFs, LCCs, spacecraft processing facilities and even the future downrange tracking station at the Paracel Islands (WSLC_107).

If you want an overview of how WSLC looks like today, check out the location (19 deg. 38' N, 110 deg. 57' E) in Google Earth and use the historical imagery function to find satellite imagery taken on July 14 of this year!  ;D
Do we have any updated pictures for WSLC complexes??
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 07/16/2014 08:34 am
Last but not least, here's the current construction progress of the various pads, VIFs, LCCs, spacecraft processing facilities and even the future downrange tracking station at the Paracel Islands (WSLC_107).

If you want an overview of how WSLC looks like today, check out the location (19 deg. 38' N, 110 deg. 57' E) in Google Earth and use the historical imagery function to find satellite imagery taken on July 14 of this year!  ;D
Do we have any updated pictures for WSLC complexes??
There are lots of them since last time and updates on ground infrastructure info too - I was going to make an update post for the past few months but never quite find enough power to do so. Let me see what I can do today....  ;)
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Kryten on 07/24/2014 12:49 am
 Do we have any reports on damage, if any, from typhoon Rammasun?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: limen4 on 07/26/2014 03:17 pm
Do we have any reports on damage, if any, from typhoon Rammasun?

Some images of the damaged liquid hydrogen manufacturing plant were released here http://www.sdy-cn.com/newInfo.asp?id=408
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Nighthawk on 07/29/2014 10:16 am
Do we have any reports on damage, if any, from typhoon Rammasun?

Some images of the damaged liquid hydrogen manufacturing plant were released here http://www.sdy-cn.com/newInfo.asp?id=408
well actually the report (in Chinese) said that the liquid hydrogen device endured the blast while the damaged ones are only some temporary houses or structures...
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Websorber on 09/13/2014 06:26 am
China completes construction of advanced space launch facility

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_completes_construction_of_advanced_space_launch_facility_999.html (http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/China_completes_construction_of_advanced_space_launch_facility_999.html)

(http://www.spxdaily.com/images-lg/wenchang-satellite-launch-center-lg.jpg)
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Lars-J on 09/30/2014 09:33 pm
New images (well taken 2 weeks ago) of Wenchang:
(spotted here: http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/strategic-defense/chinas-space-program-news-views-189-1143.html )
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: anik on 11/09/2014 07:55 am
Satellite photo of Wenchang facilities made on July 25, 2014.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 11/14/2014 05:49 pm
The official Chinese name is "文昌航天发射中心", corresponding English translation should be "Wenchang Space Launch Center", not Wenchang Satellite Launch Center.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Stan Black on 11/14/2014 05:59 pm
The official Chinese name is "文昌航天发射中心", corresponding English translation should be "Wenchang Space Launch Center", not Wenchang Satellite Launch Center.

Centre?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 11/14/2014 06:25 pm
The official Chinese name is "文昌航天发射中心", corresponding English translation should be "Wenchang Space Launch Center", not Wenchang Satellite Launch Center.

Centre?
No, Center, not Centre.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: asdert on 11/17/2014 09:19 am
Only if American English is correct and English English is not.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 11/17/2014 09:20 am
The official Chinese name is "文昌航天发射中心", corresponding English translation should be "Wenchang Space Launch Center", not Wenchang Satellite Launch Center.

I'm pretty sure that's not the name used by official Chinese media.....  :P
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: limen4 on 12/09/2014 08:24 pm
This image from the CBERS-4 launch video indicates, that the Xisha Islands (Paracel Islands) Satellite Control Station, which was built in the wake of the WSLC construction is already on duty and supports (together with the Sanya Satellite Control Station) the CBERS-4 mission.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Phillip Clark on 04/06/2015 08:31 am
Does anyone know the co-ordinates of the actual and planned launch pads, please?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Liss on 04/06/2015 05:40 pm
Does anyone know the co-ordinates of the actual and planned launch pads, please?
Wikimapia gives answers for the two existing pads within the address:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.614596&lon=110.951164&z=16&m=b
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.618497&lon=110.955412&z=16&m=b
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: anik on 09/03/2015 04:42 pm
Photos made on April 2, 2015.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: beidou on 02/13/2016 09:11 am
The official name is "China Wenchang Space Launch Center" (http://bbs.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=68576&fromuid=24484).
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 06/16/2016 02:34 pm
Well, we are suddenly probably below 10 days to first flight from there. Time for me to hurry up and make a short brief look back at the road to first flight that I have promised some time ago but never had the time to do so!  :-[

So firstly, I found out that WSLC might just have un-throned the Cape as the launch site with the best accommodation worldwide. It turns out that there's a 5-star Hilton hotel merely 5 kilometers/3 miles from the two pads with a clear line of sight (http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/china/hilton-wenchang-HAKWEHI/index.html)! That's as close as the Cape's pads from the NASA causeway! 8)

Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: yaohua2000 on 06/18/2016 05:15 pm
Well, we are suddenly probably below 10 days to first flight from there. Time for me to hurry up and make a short brief look back at the road to first flight that I have promised some time ago but never had the time to do so!  :-[

So firstly, I found out that WSLC might just have un-throned the Cape as the launch site with the best accommodation worldwide. It turns out that there's a 5-star Hilton hotel merely 5 kilometers/3 miles from the two pads with a clear line of sight (http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/china/hilton-wenchang-HAKWEHI/index.html)! That's as close as the Cape's pads from the NASA causeway! 8)

Exactly. Here is my booking.
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: Nordren on 06/18/2016 05:17 pm
Exactly. Here is my booking.

I hope you'll be providing a live stream of the launch ;)
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: baldusi on 06/18/2016 06:40 pm
Exactly. Here is my booking.
You know that means you have volunteered for being the online NSF representative, right?  :P
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: linxiaoyi on 06/19/2016 11:48 am
Well, we are suddenly probably below 10 days to first flight from there. Time for me to hurry up and make a short brief look back at the road to first flight that I have promised some time ago but never had the time to do so!  :-[

So firstly, I found out that WSLC might just have un-throned the Cape as the launch site with the best accommodation worldwide. It turns out that there's a 5-star Hilton hotel merely 5 kilometers/3 miles from the two pads with a clear line of sight (http://www3.hilton.com/en/hotels/china/hilton-wenchang-HAKWEHI/index.html)! That's as close as the Cape's pads from the NASA causeway! 8)

Exactly. Here is my booking.

If only you can provide a stream on douyutv or bilibili
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: the_other_Doug on 06/19/2016 06:07 pm
The location of the launch center so close to a tourist resort sounds like both a really great idea, and a "didn't they learn their lesson" thing.  I still recall that one Long March launch failure several years ago that destroyed a large block of flats -- while the residents were inside.

I know that block of flats was closer to the launch pad than this Hilton appears to be, but not that much.  I'd go to watch a launch, but there would be a touch of apprehension to it...
Title: Re: Wenchang Space Launch Center
Post by: baldusi on 06/20/2016 12:46 am
If they now have a working FTS that should be no problem, specially if it is south-west of the pad.
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Phillip Clark on 08/11/2016 05:58 pm
Does anyone know the co-ordinates of the actual and planned launch pads, please?
Wikimapia gives answers for the two existing pads within the address:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.614596&lon=110.951164&z=16&m=b
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.618497&lon=110.955412&z=16&m=b

Do we know which is Pad 101 and which is 201 please?
Title: Re: Wenchang Satellite Launch Center
Post by: Galactic Penguin SST on 08/12/2016 01:20 am
Does anyone know the co-ordinates of the actual and planned launch pads, please?
Wikimapia gives answers for the two existing pads within the address:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.614596&lon=110.951164&z=16&m=b
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=19.618497&lon=110.955412&z=16&m=b

Do we know which is Pad 101 and which is 201 please?

101 for CZ-5 is straight south of the VIB and 201 for CZ-7 is to the northeast.