NASASpaceFlight.com Forum

NASA Shuttle Specific Sections => Atlantis (Post STS-135, T&R) => Topic started by: kneecaps on 06/17/2007 11:51 am

Title: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: kneecaps on 06/17/2007 11:51 am
Flight Day 10 Begins!

Atlantis wake-up call was the theme from 'Band of Brothers', the BBC/HBO miniseries.

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5138 - for EVA-4 notes (end of article)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chandonn on 06/17/2007 12:20 pm
Today's Spacewalk:

"Objectives of the spacewalk, scheduled to begin just after midday EDT, include verification of DLA-2 installation, suspected of being mislabelled for DLA-1, removing the remaining SARJ (Solar Alpha Rotary Joint) launch restraints.

Also involved will be the stowing of the S3 drag link/keel pin, relocating an APFR (Articulated Portable Foot Restraint) and installing MMOD (Micrometeoroid/Orbital Debris) shields bolts, preparing the MT Mobile Transporter) translation path, removing GPS-4 antenna, removing SASA (S-band Antenna Support Assembly) gimbal locks, and more.

The EVA is expected to take around six hours."

From Chris' article:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5138
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Felix on 06/17/2007 12:20 pm
Execute package
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/180221main_fd10_ex_pkg.pdf
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Felix on 06/17/2007 01:15 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Felix on 06/17/2007 02:39 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Felix on 06/17/2007 02:39 pm
Title: Balky Micrometeoroid Shield
Post by: JMS on 06/17/2007 03:12 pm
Can anyone give insight into the ill fitting MM shield in the location of the new hydrogen vent valve?
If I understand correctly, the plan is to "permanently" restrain it in place using tethers.
Are the mis aligning Zeus fittings indicative of some sort of expansion/contraction of the structure in that area?

Thanks.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 03:17 pm
Moved it into here as it's related to today's activities.

The tetheres were a temp measure, as seen in the plans for EVA-4, they are going to attempt to install the shield's bolts today. If that doesn't work then they'll have to go with the tethers, but as to why it's been problematic...I don't think the reasons have yet been noted.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JMS on 06/17/2007 03:21 pm
Thank's for the clarification Chris.
And thank you for this site.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 03:24 pm
Awesome view of the shuttle.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JimO on 06/17/2007 03:25 pm
I had heard talk earlier that the crew might have rushed the internal OGS 'waste hydrogen' vent line reconfiguration so that the opening of the valve (that was installed closed, on Friday) could occur this EVA instead of later in the Increment. This would be the last hardware upgrade needed to activate OGS, which would have been nice to have, especially if 'Elektron' wasn't controllable. But it seems they didn't take this step. There is still internal plumbing needed to get a permanent water run from the dehumidifier to the OGS, but as is, the OGS can operate over water bags filled and manually hooked in. In a year or two, the H2 vent line will be rerouted into the Sabatier CO2 reactor that is yet to arrive -- that's an impressive technological step up, too.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: British NASA on 06/17/2007 03:33 pm
Sounds like a plan JimO! Will it depend on how they do on the other tasks, or is this one of the priority tasks for EVA-4?
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JMS on 06/17/2007 03:35 pm
Appreciate the added info Jim.
And thanks for the excellent job in covering this mission.
Space supporters could use a hundred more balanced and informed corespondents like you.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 03:35 pm
Handover activities.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 03:42 pm
So they will start dumping methane after that?

Or is there a planned thruster that can handle methane fuel for ISS?
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 03:57 pm
Depressurization has started!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 04:00 pm
Looks like Suni and the guy in the red (?) are dancing.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:00 pm
Dance Party in the lab!

Did anyone see clay dance!? That was hilarious!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Lee Jay on 06/17/2007 04:01 pm
Is it just me or has Clay's mood changed about 180° in the past couple of days (for the better)?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 04:01 pm
I saw him...I was laughing hard.  I wonder if anyone caught a video of that.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 04:02 pm
Quote
Fred Clausen - 17/6/2007  11:00 AM

Looks like Suni and the guy in the red (?) are dancing.

That's Clay Anderson, Suni's replacement.  

And yeah... hilarious!   :laugh:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 04:03 pm
Quote
Lee Jay - 17/6/2007  11:01 AM

Is it just me or has Clay's mood changed about 180° in the past couple of days (for the better)?

Hard to tell.  There have been some terse moments with him, but it's been pretty intense up there and he's still learning the ropes.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:04 pm
Quote
Fred Clausen - 17/6/2007  11:01 AM

I saw him...I was laughing hard.  I wonder if anyone caught a video of that.

I did! Let me get to digging it out here.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 04:04 pm
The station awaits.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Lee Jay on 06/17/2007 04:05 pm
He looks like he's settled in now.  I'm sure being awakened in the middle of the night twice in a row while still getting your "space-legs" can't be too good for your mood.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/17/2007 04:06 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  5:04 PM

Quote
Fred Clausen - 17/6/2007  11:01 AM

I saw him...I was laughing hard.  I wonder if anyone caught a video of that.

I did! Let me get to digging it out here.

Great! That was so funny. Shame you couldn't see Suni's face from the camera with her reactions! ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Mark Dave on 06/17/2007 04:09 pm
Darn, I missed that. That would have been funny. :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: mdrapp on 06/17/2007 04:11 pm
Can anyone read what is written under the words Big Red Road Show on Clay's shirt?....I don't have the resolution to make it out.

--Michael
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JMS on 06/17/2007 04:16 pm
Quote
mdrapp - 17/6/2007  11:11 AM

Can anyone read what is written under the words Big Red Road Show on Clay's shirt?....I don't have the resolution to make it out.

--Michael

I can't make it out either.
The closer I get to 50 the less "resolution" I seem to have.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/17/2007 04:18 pm
Quote
JMS - 17/6/2007  5:16 PM

Quote
mdrapp - 17/6/2007  11:11 AM

Can anyone read what is written under the words Big Red Road Show on Clay's shirt?....I don't have the resolution to make it out.

--Michael

I can't make it out either.
The closer I get to 50 the less "resolution" I seem to have.

Nor me...  :o
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:25 pm
Dance Dance Destiny! (Clay & Suni showing us the next style of dance I simply like to call "Zero-G")  :cool:

Divx 3 video (Run in VLC http://www.videolan.org/vlc/)

Funny stuff!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:25 pm
Hatch Open!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 04:26 pm
On battery space walk started!

Edit: Official start time 11:25 am central.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: John44 on 06/17/2007 04:28 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  11:00 AM

Dance Party in the lab!

Did anyone see clay dance!? That was hilarious!

Video:

http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/asf/STS-117%20-%20Dance%20Party%20in%20US%20lab.ASF
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Fred Clausen on 06/17/2007 04:29 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: rdale on 06/17/2007 04:29 pm
Not sure we all need to post saying we can't read it ;>

Clay mentioned several times that he was adjusting slowly to the space environment - don't need to do much reading between the lines to realize what he is referring to and how that would affect your mood (especially when you add in the sleep interruptions!)
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:29 pm
Awesome view of the earth from a HelmetCam!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Oli4 on 06/17/2007 04:31 pm
The red T says something like this 'BIG RED ...'. The .... i couldn't remember
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: mdrapp on 06/17/2007 04:31 pm
Now that's a view from the helmet cam....shuttle on one side, Soyuz on the other and the Earth below.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:33 pm
What a view Pat has!!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:35 pm
Ok after the tether work on to this storage rack you can see here to grab the camera they will install on the new truss.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:41 pm
Quick snapshot before we go into the ZOE and completely miss them grabbing the camera.  :(
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:46 pm
sts1canada! we could use your Ku Crystal Ball!  ;)
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Johnny Rönnberg on 06/17/2007 04:47 pm
Quote
John44 - 17/6/2007  6:28 PM

Video:

http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/asf/STS-117%20-%20Dance%20Party%20in%20US%20lab.ASF

. :laugh: That clip make my day.

When will we have Ku-band coverage back?
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:48 pm
Woah! Ku in the Zoe?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: psklenar on 06/17/2007 04:48 pm
Quote
Oli4 - 17/6/2007  12:31 PM

The red T says something like this 'BIG RED ...'. The .... i couldn't remember

Looked like a University of Nebraska Cornhuskers t-shirt to me.

pat----
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 04:53 pm
Quote
John44 - 17/6/2007  5:28 PM

Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  11:00 AM

Dance Party in the lab!

Did anyone see clay dance!? That was hilarious!

Video:

http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/asf/STS-117%20-%20Dance%20Party%20in%20US%20lab.ASF

That's damn funny. Clay seems like a really big character.

Check out last night with the playing to camera :)
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8426&start=46
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 04:56 pm
Ok they have the camera in tow and are heading out to the worksite on the S3/S4 truss!

The last time a camera was installed PAO was able to get a view from it pretty quick. So we ought to be able to get a nice view of the work on the launch restraints.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Oli4 on 06/17/2007 04:59 pm
Is the plan for today (after te EVA) to break-in the SARJ and start to rotate that thing.  Or are they going to wait untill computers are 100% stable?
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: stockman on 06/17/2007 05:00 pm
AHAH .. that was funny. I especialy liked the look he gave down the lab to the node to see if anyone was there watching. If he only knew the entire world was! :)

Oh well. good for him. Glad they are having some fun now.

on to the work at hand now!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 05:01 pm
Quote
Oli4 - 17/6/2007  11:59 AM

Is the plan for today (after te EVA) to break-in the SARJ and start to rotate that thing.  Or are they going to wait untill computers are 100% stable?

I believe they are going to activate the SARJ tomorrow after the attitude control testing.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:03 pm
Ok they are approaching the camera port.

This wont take long to install. (Just wish we had Ku to see HelmetCam views of it  :(  )

0:38 mins into today's EVA. Going Good!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:04 pm
Hi everyone, I am back for this EVA to provide some insight on different times for sunrise/sunset, KU coverage etc. I have been having some computer issues today that have delayed me from joining the coverage. Give a me a few minutes to catch up and I will be back with more info.

Richard

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Oli4 on 06/17/2007 05:04 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 17/6/2007  7:01 PM

Quote
Oli4 - 17/6/2007  11:59 AM

Is the plan for today (after te EVA) to break-in the SARJ and start to rotate that thing.  Or are they going to wait untill computers are 100% stable?

I believe they are going to activate the SARJ tomorrow after the attitude control testing.


OK thx!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:06 pm
on orbit 139, 20 minutes to sunrise, out of the ZOE under TDRS-West coverage for the next 45 minutes, I do not have a live feed of NASA-TV yet, working on that.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: MKremer on 06/17/2007 05:07 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  11:56 AM

Ok they have the camera in tow and are heading out to the worksite on the S3/S4 truss!

The last time a camera was installed PAO was able to get a view from it pretty quick. So we ought to be able to get a nice view of the work on the launch restraints.
No camera, just the stanchion (the stand for it), I believe. If there were a camera to install also, they would have brought it with them from the airlock.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:08 pm
Quote
MKremer - 17/6/2007  12:07 PM

Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  11:56 AM

Ok they have the camera in tow and are heading out to the worksite on the S3/S4 truss!

The last time a camera was installed PAO was able to get a view from it pretty quick. So we ought to be able to get a nice view of the work on the launch restraints.
No camera, just the stanchion (the stand for it), I believe. If there were a camera to install also, they would have brought it with them from the airlock.

PAO has been calling it a television camera and not a stand. Perhaps this is the case tho.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:08 pm
They will rotate the SARJ on S3/S4 5 degrees (out of a 360 degree circle) later today after the EVA and then sometime tomorrow put it in sun track mode where it will track the sun and rotate as needed.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:11 pm
I think the camera stanchion assembly is to help with the installation of the S5 truss to give views to help the crew of STS-118 install it on the next flight, however I could be wrong.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 05:11 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  12:08 PM

They will rotate the SARJ on S3/S4 5 degrees (out of a 360 degree circle) later today after the EVA and then sometime tomorrow put it in sun track mode where it will track the sun and rotate as needed.

Richard

Ahh... ok. I thought I understood that they wouldn't mess with it until after Russian attitude control was tested and confirmed.  I guess I was just thinking about sun-tracking mode, though.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:17 pm
As usual, do not expect KU to resume on TDRS-West until the station passes Australia and New Zealand and starts to move more north and east towards TDRS-West, we may get KU back before sunrise on this pass which will occur about 8 minutes from now, no promises on that however due to the station's orientation right now.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:19 pm
6 minutes to sunrise, 32 minutes left of comm on TDRS-West, 64 minutes to the next ZOE pass.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:19 pm
Camera install complete.

Pat is off to the DLA-2

Steve is off to start on the launch restraints.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:22 pm
According to the FD 10 summary timeline in the execute package, STS KU is available right now but we do not have it either due to blockage of the KU signal with the station or the EVA crew is in the way of the KU signal and it is turned off on the shuttle, okay ignore that, MCC-H says we should have KU in a minute or two.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:22 pm
sts1canada here is the attitude reference for your Ku predictions.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:24 pm
KU through STS is now available, sunrise in 1 minute!

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:24 pm
Ku!

View from Pat's Helmetcam.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:26 pm
View from Steve's HelmetCam

You can see one of the launch restraints.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:26 pm
We are starting a 56 minute daylight pass now, sunset will be at around 2:21 PM EDT (6:21 PM GMT), 25 minutes of comm through TDRS-West including periods of KU before handover to TDRS-East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:28 pm
And finally we see a launch lock free!

Good job!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:29 pm
Pat is preparing to remove the DLA cover.

Ku lost  :(  Here is the Orbit reference.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:30 pm
Okay I am going to try to update my two-line elements to provide more accurate predicts with STSPLUS as I track STS-117, we are approaching orbit 140 when we pass the equator this pass.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:31 pm
Short interruption of KU has occurred just as it is shown in the FD 10 execute package for orbit 139.

I am referring the gap in the white bar for the comm coverage of TDRS-West for orbit 139.

KU is now back, expect KU to continue until handover to TDRS-East in about 18 minutes.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:31 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  12:30 PM

Okay I am going to try to update my two-line elements to provide more accurate predicts with STSPLUS as I track STS-117, we are approaching orbit 140 when we pass the equator this pass.

Richard

http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/sts.txt

Best I've seen yet!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:32 pm
Playback of footage of the ESP inspection.

Wow the video is CLEAR
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:34 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  1:31 PM

Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  12:30 PM

Okay I am going to try to update my two-line elements to provide more accurate predicts with STSPLUS as I track STS-117, we are approaching orbit 140 when we pass the equator this pass.

Richard

http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/sts.txt

Best I've seen yet!

Thanks Zach, my two line elements do need to be updated, thanks for the link!

Richard

Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:35 pm
Ok video paused back to love coverage of launch restraint removal and DLA work
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:36 pm
Nice Zoomed in view.

Is this from the new Camera?
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:38 pm
View of the DLA from Pat's HelmetCam!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:39 pm
Another view.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:42 pm
Commanding the DLA to neutral!

Steve hauling rear end on those restraints!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:42 pm
Approaching orbital noon (sun directly overhead the complex), sunset in about 40 minutes, 9 minutes to loss of comm with TDRS-West/handover to East, 41 minutes to the ZOE.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:43 pm
All done! on to bolt ops.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 05:45 pm
Preparing to move the APFR to near the keel pin, after Swany has finished some work with one restraint.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:45 pm
Ok Steve removing another restraint. (Moving like he was born to remove these!)

Pat working on the DLA.

EVA going VERY well!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:47 pm
Beautiful view of pat working on the DLA.

Everyone this IS the new camera! Look at where the angle starts!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:48 pm
Nice view of Steve working on a launch restraint with the DLA above.

Pat working some bolts with a tether bouncing around.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 05:53 pm
28 minutes to sunset, now on TDRS-East comm & KU for the next 30 minutes but we may lose KU shortly before this half hour comm period is up as we move closer to the ZOE.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:54 pm
Head over Heels about this DLA work  ;)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jcm on 06/17/2007 05:54 pm
Scheduled today was the move of the Mobile Transporter (MT) from Worksite 7 (WS7) to WS8, then back to WS4.
I belatedly realize that I am really fuzzy on where the train stations are located on the Space Station Railway! I believe WS4 is on S0 and WS7  is on P1.... can someone list the various MT worksites and where they are? Is there a document or a diagram that describes them? (and pushing it, does someone have a historical timeline of
MT positions since it was installed?)

  Jonathan
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:56 pm
If that other view wasn't the camera than maybe this is.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 05:56 pm

DLA is given a go to be engaged.

Watching for teeth and gear engagement indication.

Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:58 pm
1:30 Mins into today's EVA.

To the right you can see Steve hauling rear end on the launch restraints.

DLA Engage Sent!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:59 pm
DLA Install good! Ready to put the cover back on!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 05:59 pm
Installing the cover 1
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 06:00 pm
Apparently, good engage in the DLA. That makes this SARJ operational! Only 3 launch restraints left.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:01 pm
Installing the cover 2
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:03 pm
18 minutes to sunset, 20 minutes to the ZOE on this pass, the ZOE on this pass is ten minutes long, may have a short period of KU through TDRS-Z while in the ZOE, nothing like the continuous KU we have now through TDRS-East.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 06:03 pm
What was all that about with Swanee?  Look at the orbiter, swing out your left arm...  what?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:04 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 17/6/2007  1:03 PM

What was all that about with Swanee?  Look at the orbiter, swing out your left arm...  what?

Photo for the kids.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:04 pm
Installing the cover 3.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:05 pm
We are on orbit 140 for those following the timeline in the FD 10 exec pack.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 06:06 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  1:04 PM

Quote
jmjawors - 17/6/2007  1:03 PM

What was all that about with Swanee?  Look at the orbiter, swing out your left arm...  what?

Photo for the kids.

Ahh... ok.  That never occurred to me.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:07 pm
17 minutes to the ZOE, expect a loss of KU shortly before this time however, this is normal for KU loss to occur just before we enter the ZOE so expect it to happen every orbit (pass).

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 06:10 pm
Pat's turn to have his portrait taken.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:12 pm
Pat maneuvers to work on launch restraints.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:14 pm
9 minutes to sunset, next sunrise pass starts in 43 minutes at 2:56 PM EDT (6:56 PM GMT), 10 minutes to ZOE, expect loss of KU sometine in the next 10 minutes, exact time unknown, ZOE pass is 10 minutes long this orbit.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:14 pm
1:47 into today's eva and already a TON has been done.

3 restraints before SARJ clear to activate!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:16 pm
Steve works on breaking torque so that Pat can come in and remove the restraint.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:16 pm
5 minutes to sunset, 7 minutes to loss of comm with TDRS-East, loss of KU at anytime now.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:17 pm
Good going on the Ku calls there sts1canada!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Analyst on 06/17/2007 06:18 pm
Quote
jcm - 17/6/2007  7:54 PM

Scheduled today was the move of the Mobile Transporter (MT) from Worksite 7 (WS7) to WS8, then back to WS4.
I belatedly realize that I am really fuzzy on where the train stations are located on the Space Station Railway! I believe WS4 is on S0 and WS7  is on P1.... can someone list the various MT worksites and where they are? Is there a document or a diagram that describes them? (and pushing it, does someone have a historical timeline of
MT positions since it was installed?)

  Jonathan

Train stations from starboard to port:

WS1 S3
WS2 S1 (outboard)
WS3 S1 (inboard)
WS4 S0 (starboard and home position)
WS5 S0 (port)
WS6 P1 (inboard)
WS7 P1 (outboard)
WS8 P3

WS9 S6 (inboard, outboard rails AFAIK canceled and WS therefore not reachable)
WS10 P6 (inboard, outboard rails AFAIK canceled and WS therefore not reachable)

Analyst
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:18 pm
As I said earlier, we may get some bonus KU through TDRS-Z on this pass (ref FD 10 execute pack comm summary) but that will not occur for about 10 minutes from now, if it happens. 3 minutes to sunset, 5 minutes to ZOE.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:20 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  2:17 PM

Good going on the Ku calls there sts1canada!

Thanks Zach, I only have two pieces of info to help me make these predicts, STSPLUS and the FD 10 execute package comm summary to go by, no magic on my end.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jcm on 06/17/2007 06:22 pm
Analyst - thanks much, that's great info! - Jonathan

Quote
Analyst - 17/6/2007  2:18 PM
 

Train stations from starboard to port:

WS1 S3
WS2 S1 (outboard)
WS3 S1 (inboard)
WS4 S0 (starboard and home position)
WS5 S0 (port)
WS6 P1 (inboard)
WS7 P1 (outboard)
WS8 P3
 

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:23 pm
2 minutes to the ZOE, sunset occurring now, sunrise again about 2:56 PM EDT, we may get some KU in about ten minutes (+ or - five minutes either way) from TDRS-Z if things line up right, it will be short KU pass.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:24 pm
We have now entered the ZOE, comm only through TDRS-Z, no KU yet (see my note above), this ZOE pass is ten minutes long.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:27 pm
31 minutes to sunrise (note that all the times I post are estimate, for those watching on satellite or cable, these events (sunset, sunrise) may occur earlier than what I say here, these times are estimates only.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:29 pm
About halfway through this ZOE pass now, 5 and half minutes to TDRS-West comm acquisition, may have some ratty comm after TDRS-West handover occurs, no TDRS-Z KU yet, hope to see it soon if the complex lines up to it without blockage etc.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jarthur on 06/17/2007 06:31 pm
What is the ETRS that Pat is installing now?

edit: never mind, they just said the full name.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:31 pm
2:05 EVA Duration

Launch Restraint work almost complete!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:32 pm
Ku! from Atlantis!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:33 pm
External tether restraint system (ETRS) on the truss structure, now have TDRS-Z KU, half a minute to TDRS-West comm acquisition.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:37 pm
22 minutes to sunrise, we are under TDRS-West comm and periods of KU for the next 55 minutes, we can expect loss of KU from TDRS-Z soon and reacquire KU through TDRS-West after we pass Austrila and New Zealand, the KU pass right now is still through TDRS-Z.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:38 pm
The next ZOE pass occurs in 83 minutes and it will be longer than the last ZOE pass, 13 minutes this time around.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:43 pm
We just had loss of KU through TDRS-Z as I expected, next KU pass will be through TDRS-West after sunrise, no earlier than 3:00 PM EDT (7:00 PM GMT), now in a period of ratty comm through S-band through TDRS-West, static is normal, expect KU when we pass north and east of Australia and New Zealand on this pass, in about 20 - 25 minutes.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:46 pm
12 minutes to sunrise, 47 minutes left in this TDRS-West comm pass, before handover to East, this NO KU period after ZOE, moving over Australia and New Zealand, until we approach under TDRS-West in half an hour occurs every orbit (pass) and is normal!

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:47 pm
10 minutes to sunrise, all launch locks on the SARJ are removed, I believe I heard that right!

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:49 pm
Current station position as I am tracking about a minute ago:

Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:52 pm
2:25 EVA Duration.

Done with the launch restraints and moving on to the rail work.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:52 pm
Oops, I posted more of a screenshot than I wanted there, sorry, but it gives you an idea about what I doing to provide updates, NASA-TV in one window, NSF in another and STSPLUS in a third.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 06:53 pm
Ready to lock the SARJ! spacewalkers may see a slight movement.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:53 pm
3 minutes to sunrise, probably about 15 minutes away from good KU coverage through TDRS-West.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: STS Tony on 06/17/2007 06:54 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  1:49 PM

Current station position as I am tracking about a minute ago:


That's fantastic! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:55 pm
Quote
STS Tony - 17/6/2007  2:54 PM

Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  1:49 PM

Current station position as I am tracking about a minute ago:


That's fantastic! :)

Yes it is, but it is hard to keep track of three things at one time, it is like juggling things in the air.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 06:57 pm
Around 1 minute to sunrise, complex is passing south of Australia and when it starts to move northeast towards TDRS-West over the central Pacific Ocean, KU will improve as line of sight KU to TDRS-West improves. Be patient everyone, should have KU sometime in about 20 minutes.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 07:02 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  7:52 PM

Oops, I posted more of a screenshot than I wanted there, sorry, but it gives you an idea about what I doing to provide updates, NASA-TV in one window, NSF in another and STSPLUS in a third.

Richard

Very impressive.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:02 pm
Drag link stowed.

2:45 EVA Duration.

Removing the keel pin!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:03 pm
Ku!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 07:03 pm
Drag link structural support of the keel pin has been moved into the truss segment, to clear the way for the Mobile Transporter to move on its railway.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: hornet on 06/17/2007 07:08 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  11:55 AM

Quote
STS Tony - 17/6/2007  2:54 PM

Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  1:49 PM

Current station position as I am tracking about a minute ago:


That's fantastic! :)

Yes it is, but it is hard to keep track of three things at one time, it is like juggling things in the air.

Richard

And we all apperciate your hard work thanks :)
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:10 pm
Steve working on the keel pin.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:11 pm
Another view of the spacewalkers.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: anik on 06/17/2007 07:12 pm
Quote
jcm - 17/6/2007  10:22 PM

Analyst - thanks much, that's great info! - Jonathan

Quote
Analyst - 17/6/2007  2:18 PM

Train stations from starboard to port:

WS1 S3
WS2 S1 (outboard)
WS3 S1 (inboard)
WS4 S0 (starboard and home position)
WS5 S0 (port)
WS6 P1 (inboard)
WS7 P1 (outboard)
WS8 P3

I think that good addition to Analyst's post is image below from STS-116 EVA Checklist (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/163526main_EVA_116_F.pdf) (page 359)...

WS1 is on S3's bay 17 accordingly...
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:12 pm
Rotating the keel pin!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:13 pm
Moving it in to lock it down.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 07:16 pm
Thank you for the comments everyone, I appreciate it, just trying to fill some gaps in NASA PAO coverage, not that Kylie is doing a bad job ;) !

Sorry for the lack of updates, I was interrupted here at home by other business, we are under KU through TDRS-West for the next 16 minutes, sunset on this pass is 37 minutes away, now have orbital noon during this pass for the EVA crew.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:16 pm
Steve bolting it in!

EVA ahead of schedule by quite a bit.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:18 pm
Ok that work done!

Now for the remaining little things while they are here.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 07:21 pm
Gloves ok, although one of the astronauts (don't know who) noted a bit of wear due to the keel pin job.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Bubbinski on 06/17/2007 07:21 pm
They just did a glove inspection.  No damage.

Oops...eeergo beat me to it.  What get ahead work do they have to do now?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 07:22 pm
Starting orbit 141 in three minutes, 10 minutes left of KU coverage with TDRS-West before handover to TDRS-East, ZOE is 39 minutes away, sunset is 31 minutes from now.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:24 pm
Thumbs up!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:26 pm
Heading to S4!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: mdrapp on 06/17/2007 07:26 pm
Amazing....two humans....in orbit, building a space station....and we get to see it live on our TVs...(or computer screens)...

--Michael
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Bubbinski on 06/17/2007 07:30 pm
Another Helmetcam shot.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 07:31 pm
Quote
mdrapp - 17/6/2007  3:26 PM

Amazing....two humans....in orbit, building a space station....and we get to see it live on our TVs...(or computer screens)...

--Michael


Yes what is really amazing is this KU video is being beamed up to 22,000 miles above the shuttle/station to a TDRS satellite while the shuttle/station is moving around the earth at 17,500 miles per hour around the earth, then the KU signal is beamed down to a NASA TDRSS ground station in New Mexico, USA and then forwarded to JSC in Houston for further processing, and then transmitted to all our homes where ever we are in the world! Wow.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 07:32 pm
Speaking of glove damage, there's been no reports (that I've seen on the memos etc.) of any damage on this mission. They will still get a good checking over on the ground, but the proceedure to check after every task is a clever one.

....and what mdrapp said :)
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:34 pm
3:07 EVA Duration.

Steve is going out to install the rail stop.

Image: Pat works with the toolbox.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 07:35 pm
Now on TDRS-East comm & KU for the next 27 minutes, sunset is now 19 minutes away, the next ZOE is 13 minutes long, but in some possible good news, we may have a longer KU Pass with TDRS-Z during the ZOE pass than we did on the last orbit, we shall see.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:39 pm
Images
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 07:41 pm
Sunset on this orbit 141 occurs at 3:52 PM EDT (7:52 PM GMT), sunrise will occur again at 4:27 PM EDT (8:27 PM GMT), we pass out of TDRS-East comm at 4:00 PM (8:00 PM GMT) when we enter a ZOE of 13 minutes, expect loss of KU shortly before 4 PM EDT.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:42 pm
Pat installing a portable foot restraint.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:46 pm
Steve working on the shield.

Stuck bolt!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:48 pm
And fixed!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 07:55 pm
MMOD Bolts complete.

Clearing the railway.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jarthur on 06/17/2007 07:59 pm
Why no more get aheads? They still have the LAN cable on the node and removing the GPS antenna, amongst others, that they could do...
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Analyst on 06/17/2007 08:01 pm
And they will. He is only carring the "trash" to the airlock.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:01 pm
Now in the ZOE, 28 minutes to sunrise, this ZOE is 13 minutes long, and we leave it at 4:13 PM EDT (8:13 GMT) but we may get some KU through TDRS-Z towards the end of this ZOE period.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jarthur on 06/17/2007 08:04 pm
Quote
Analyst - 17/6/2007  2:01 PM

And they will. He is only carring the "trash" to the airlock.

Oh OK. Have they removed the SVIS target yet?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:06 pm
Since we are in the ZOE, for anyone who wants to try out a great satellite tracking program like I am using, STSPLUS, here is a link for it that I found that I hope is helpful to anyone here.

Unfortunately, the author of the program, Dave Ransom has passed away and his website called dransom.com where I got a copy of it, is gone.

STSPLUS is a DOS program so to set it up properly you should be using DOS or go to a DOS prompt in Windows, it runs well in Windows 98 and XP with no problems, however in Vista 32 bit, you have to run it inside a program called DOSBOX.

Go to this site (it may be slow, be patient) after you read the note below:

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/SPACE/

NOTE: STSPLUS files are distributed as self-extracting archive files with
filetype ".EXE". Place these files in a directory named STSPLUS and execute the self-extracting archive file to obtain the component files for the program. Here is a link for the program file, you need to download it and run it in DOS to install the program:

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files/SPACE/SOP0223.EXE

A help manual I believe is included inside this package, it is now considered freeware as the author has died. I hope this helps you out.

Richard


Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: hornet on 06/17/2007 08:06 pm
They are gong very fast with getting stuff done, what do they have left to do?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:08 pm
Back to EVA coverage, we have KU through TDRS-Z, this KU pass should last longer this orbit than the last ZOE pass. 7 minutes to the end of the ZOE, 20 minutes to sunrise.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:12 pm
View as they troubleshoot the problem.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:13 pm
3 minutes to TDRS-West, 16 minutes to sunrise, still have KU through TDRS-Z, almost out of the ZOE, when the KU drops, we will have passed out of KU comm with Z.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:16 pm
Passing into TDRS-West comm coverage now, will be on TDRS-West comm for the next 55 minutes, sunrise in 13 minutes, KU still through TDRS-Z but not for much longer.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jcm on 06/17/2007 08:17 pm
Thanks again - I must have read that doc but missed this very useful figure.
So I have: (provisionally)


2002 Apr 14       (8A/STS-110)    MT installed at launch pos
2002 Apr 15 1322                  Launch pos to WS4
2002 Apr 15                       WS4 to WS5
2002 Apr 15 2340                  WS5 to WS4
2002 Jun 10 1303  (UF2/STS-111)   MBS berthed on MT
2002 Nov 30 1621  (11A/STS-113)   WS4 to WS7  (UHF collision)
2002 Dec                          WS7 to WS4
2005 Dec 16                       MT TUS cable problem; at WS4
2006 Jul 10       (ULF-1.1/121)   MT EVA repair of TUS
2006 Jul 12 1015  (ULF-1.1/121)   WS4 to WS5
2006 Sep 11       (12A/STS-115)   WS7? (attach P3/P4)
2006 Sep 15 1650? (12A/STS-115)   WS7 to WS8
2006 Sep 15 1835? (12A/STS-115)   WS8 to WS4
2006 Dec?                         WS4 to WS8
2006 Dec 12       (12A.1/STS-116) WS8? (attach P5)
2006 Dec 13 0400? (12A.1/STS-116) WS8 to WS3
2006 Dec?                         WS3 to WS4 (?) (via WS2?)
2007 Jun?                         WS4 to WS2 (to attach S3/S4)
2007 Jun 13 0248  (13A/STS-117)   WS2 to WS3
2007 Jun 16 0403? (13A/STS-117)   WS3 to WS5
2007 Jun 16 1858? (13A/STS-117)   WS5 to WS1



Quote
anik - 17/6/2007  3:12 PM
 
I think that good addition to Analyst's post is image below from (...)

WS1 is on S3's bay 17 accordingly...





Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 08:18 pm
All done with S3/S4!  Awesome work!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:18 pm
All done on the new truss!

Pat already on his way back to the Airlock to trade tethers and get new tools.

3:52
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:20 pm
10 minutes to sunrise, complex passing southwest of Australia, expect loss of KU in the few minutes from TDRS-Z as we travel away from its line of sight KU coverage zone.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:22 pm
I have being so busy looking at the tracking on STSPLUS, I forget, did they get the rail stop up on the S3 rail for the MT, I though they had problems with it, is that correct?

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jarthur on 06/17/2007 08:22 pm
Clay: "Are the PMC's a $10 copay?"

Hilarious
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 08:22 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  3:22 PM

I have being so busy looking at the tracking on STSPLUS, I forget, did they get the rail stop up on the S3 rail for the MT, I though they had problems with it, is that correct?

Richard

Yup.... sure did.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:23 pm
At the airlock getting stuff ready for the next tasks.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:25 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 17/6/2007  4:22 PM

If we're thinking of the same thing, then yes.  Finally got that done.

Thanks Matt, good to hear!

It is a little tough to watch two windows at one time, listening to the NASA TV audio and typing at the same time, sorry everyone if some of my comments do not make much sense at times.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:26 pm
3 minutes to sunrise, KU through Z should end shortly after sunrise, so a heads up for no KU soon.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:26 pm
4 hour EVA so far.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:28 pm
Sunrise!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:28 pm
Sunrise in about 1 minute, passing directly south of Australia, you can thank TDRS-Z for all this bonus coverage as the complex's orbit angle is very sharp and steep in relation to TDRS-Z which helps improve KU coverage.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:30 pm
We got tons of Ku on that Orbit.

Hope this cycle continues!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:31 pm
Yes, after I give kudos to TDRS-Z, we pass out of range of TDRS-Z KU, next KU pass will be through TDRS-West in about 15 minutes or so (give or take 5 minutes either side of this estimate). We are under TDRS-West for the next 40 minutes, sunset on this pass is 54 minutes away at 5:23 PM EDT (9:23 PM GMT).

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:34 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  4:30 PM

We got tons of Ku on that Orbit.

Hope this cycle continues!

Zach, it should for a few more orbits before the EVA ends, keep your fingers crossed but we are always prone to unplanned KU blockage etc.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:36 pm
Passing south and east of New Zealand, some ratty comm through S-band (voice comm), KU will improve again in about 10 minutes or so as the complex moves northeast again towards TDRS-West located at 175 degrees West over the equator.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:38 pm
17 minutes from passing the equator moving northeast starting orbit 142 then, 47 minutes to sunset, 32 minutes to TDRS-West comm loss and handover to East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:39 pm
View from Pat's HelmetCam

4:14 Duration EVA
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:40 pm
The next ZOE pass is 12 minutes long when we get to it, now we have KU through TDRS-West again and expect to have it for about 30 more minutes when we hand over to East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:41 pm
Pat installing a portable foot restraint.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:42 pm
We will enter the ZOE again in one hour from now, 43 minutes to sunset, 29 minutes to handover to East, 13 minutes to orbit 142.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:48 pm
36 minutes to sunset, 7 minutes from starting orbit 142, 22 minutes to handover to TDRS-East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 08:50 pm
Pat installing a foot restraint on the truss.

Steve working on the network connections.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 08:50 pm
4hr 25 mins into the EVA.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:50 pm
Complex is passing through orbital noon at this time, sun is directly overhead the complex.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:55 pm
Node Routing LAN cable EVA task occurring now, at a spacewalk time (PET) of 5:45, MCC-H wants the EVA crew to move to the OGS lab H2 vent valve open ops, EVA looking great so far as we now start orbit 142 of the STS-117 mission.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: hornet on 06/17/2007 08:55 pm
what else do they have for get aheads?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:58 pm
I don't believe get ahead tasks have been called up to the crew yet from MCC-H and I don't think they will, they (MCC-H) seem to want to end the EVA after the H2 vent valve task, someone else here may have heard differently.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: ETEE on 06/17/2007 08:59 pm
Good old zdus fasteners on the ISS, same as my 1960 BSA motorsickel.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 08:59 pm
Approaching the southwest coast of Mexico near Mexico City, on orbit 142, 11 minutes to TDRS-handover to East, 25 minutes to sunset.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:03 pm
40 minutes to the ZOE, should have some KU on East through station KU after 8 minutes from now, sunset will occur at 5:23 PM EDT (9:23 PM GMT), now starting to pass close over Houston, TX.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 09:04 pm
Soooo beautiful! I'd never seen the Unity-Zarya union so clearly before!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/17/2007 09:04 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  10:55 PM
at a spacewalk time (PET) of 5:45
That's not correct. EVA started at 12:25 pm EDT, this post was made at 4:55 pm EDT which was at a PET of 4:30.

Right now at PET 4:38. 5 hour mark at 5:25 pm EDT. 6.5 mark at 6:55 pm EDT.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:08 pm
Very nice view!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 09:09 pm
For what it's worth, NASA.gov in their own reporting of the EVA mentions that they "installed a TV camera."
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:09 pm
Quote
DaveS - 17/6/2007  5:04 PM

Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  10:55 PM
at a spacewalk time (PET) of 5:45
That's not correct. EVA started at 12:25 pm EDT, this post was made at 4:55 pm EDT which was at a PET of 4:30.

Right now at PET 4:38. 5 hour mark at 5:25 pm EDT. 6.5 mark at 6:55 pm EDT.

Hi Dave, I did not mean to say that we were at a PET of 5:45, I meant that at a PET of 5:45 MCC-H wants the EVA crew to work on the H2 vent valve open ops. That PET was called up to the crew from MCC-H, as I am tracking three things at the time (STSPLUS, NASA TV and this thread) my explanation was not clear, sorry.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:11 pm
Handover from TDRS-West to East occurred now, 30 minutes to the ZOE, 14 minutes to sunset on this pass.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/17/2007 09:12 pm
Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  11:09 PM

Quote
DaveS - 17/6/2007  5:04 PM

Quote
sts1canada - 17/6/2007  10:55 PM
at a spacewalk time (PET) of 5:45
That's not correct. EVA started at 12:25 pm EDT, this post was made at 4:55 pm EDT which was at a PET of 4:30.

Right now at PET 4:38. 5 hour mark at 5:25 pm EDT. 6.5 mark at 6:55 pm EDT.

Hi Dave, I did not mean to say that we were at a PET of 5:45, I meant that at a PET of 5:45 MCC-H wants the EVA crew to work on the H2 vent valve open ops. That PET was called up to the crew from MCC-H, as I am tracking three things at the time (STSPLUS, NASA TV and this thread) my explanation was not clear, sorry.

Richard
OK, I guess I got confused by the wording in the post. Thanks for the explanation!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: ETEE on 06/17/2007 09:12 pm
In case anyone wants to know a dzus fastener, is a spring loaded quick release fastener usually engaged with a 90 degree turn from a screw slot on its top or what looks like an allen key on the ISS.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:14 pm
Now passing over the Canadian Maritime provinces, 12 minutes to sunset, next ZOE is going to be 12 minutes long and like the past rev (orbit), we should have KU through TDRS-Z midway through the ZOE. Reference: FD 10 execute pack. comm summary timeline

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:15 pm
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:16 pm
Sorry for my messy wording everyone, but tracking three things at once and trying to type at the same time is not a good combination. Sunset is coming up in 9 minutes, we will have station KU through East for about another 20 minutes, ZOE is 25 minutes from now.

Richard

Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Avron on 06/17/2007 09:16 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  5:15 PM

Working on the vent valve.

think thats the LAN connection
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:18 pm
Quote
Avron - 17/6/2007  5:16 PM

Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  5:15 PM

Working on the vent valve.

think thats the LAN connection

That is right Avron, they are still working on the Node LAN cable connections.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:19 pm
6 minutes to sunset, 22 minutes to the ZOE, complex approaching southwest of England.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:20 pm
More network cable work.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Avron on 06/17/2007 09:25 pm
Looks like the cable is winning...
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:25 pm
Node 1 at night.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: eeergo on 06/17/2007 09:33 pm
I've just seen it go into orbital night... from my backyard :) It was the first time I saw it knowing what it was beforehand. Really bright and fast!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: USFJoseph on 06/17/2007 09:34 pm
So this LAN cable -- is it safe to assume this isn't your normal RJ-45 type cable you can get at any electronics store?  Probably custom made, shielded, etc...?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Avron on 06/17/2007 09:37 pm
Sounds like the tether got under cable...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Martin.cz on 06/17/2007 09:43 pm
Ive just seen it too, cca 15 minutes ago (prediction by heavens-above :), it is amazing to look up and see ISS to fly above and then on Nasa TV a to see a view from the other end :D Also, when you know, that on that moving dot, there are two humans working right now ! :D
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:53 pm
1 minute left to this ZOE pass before moving into TDRS-West comm coverage (no KU through West for a while), this KU is through TDRS-Z just like the last orbit, when we lose it, we will lose KU until we move closer under TDRS-West in about 20 - 25 minutes. 7 minutes to sunrise.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:56 pm
5 minutes to sunrise, 51 minutes to TDRS-West handover to East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:57 pm
5:30 EVA Duration

Working on the MMOD shield.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Oli4 on 06/17/2007 09:57 pm
They are really strugling with that shield!
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 09:59 pm
2 minutes to sunrise, KU still through TDRS-Z for a few more minutes, when it is gone, it is gone until we get KU from TDRS-West, complex passing southwest of Australia.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 09:59 pm
Sunrise!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:01 pm
Ground sending up a plan to tether the shield in place. This isn't going well.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:02 pm
EVA is planned to end on time according to MCC-H so there will be no get-aheads on this EVA tacked on. MMOD panel may be tethered in place to save EVA PET time.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:03 pm
Sounds like we may need yet another US Station EVA before 118 arrives.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:06 pm
Loss of KU through TDRS-Z as expected, as I said, when its gone, its gone. Next KU pass will be with TDRS-West in about 20 minutes, as the complex moves south, then east of NewZealand, and then starts to move northeast again towards the central Pacific Ocean, under TDRS-West, now under West comm coverage (S-band comm), for the next 40 minutes, sunset is 50 minutes from now.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: anik on 06/17/2007 10:08 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 18/6/2007  1:09 AM

For what it's worth, NASA.gov in their own reporting of the EVA mentions that they "installed a TV camera."

It is mistake, of course...

Today only the VSSA (Video Stanchion Support Assembly) stanchion was taken from the FSE (Flight Support Equipment) stanchion carrier on ESP-2 (External Stowage Platform) and installed onto CP-1 (camera port) position on S3 truss... ETVCG (External Television Cameras Group) camera will be installed onto VSSA stanchion sometime in future...
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 10:09 pm
Quote
anik - 17/6/2007  5:08 PM

Quote
jmjawors - 18/6/2007  1:09 AM

For what it's worth, NASA.gov in their own reporting of the EVA mentions that they "installed a TV camera."

It is mistake, of course...

Haha... well... there you go.  Thanks PAO.  ;)
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:10 pm
Quote
Zachstar - 17/6/2007  6:03 PM

Sounds like we may need yet another US Station EVA before 118 arrives.

There will be a station US EVA in July before STS-118 arrives to jettison the early ammonia servicer tank (EAS) off of the P6 truss, it is no longer needed, that EVA is scheduled for around July 20, see this link for a tentative schedule:

http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:13 pm
45 minutes to sunset, 35 minutes to handover from West to East, 15 minutes to starting orbit 143 of the STS-117 mission.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 10:14 pm
Quote
Oli4 - 17/6/2007  10:57 PM

They are really strugling with that shield!

Which would put plans into place as noted on the first page in an answer to JMS.

Quote
Chris Bergin - 17/6/2007  4:17 PM

The tetheres were a temp measure, as seen in the plans for EVA-4, they are going to attempt to install the shield's bolts today. If that doesn't work then they'll have to go with the tethers, but as to why it's been problematic...I don't think the reasons have yet been noted.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:15 pm
Maybe 5 - 10 minutes to KU on TDRS-West, just a guess on my part due to the complex's orbital position. (okay, as soon as I post, KU returns!)

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:17 pm
Approaching orbital noon on this pass within five minutes, 30 minutes of comm & KU through TDRS-West available.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:18 pm
Working on the tethers.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:19 pm
More.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/17/2007 10:20 pm
As far as the reasons for the difficulty, there was a little blurb in last night's press conference about it.  Apparently J.R. was overheard speculating that the shield was simply not made correctly.

That's a bit of hearsay, though.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:22 pm
Passing over the central Pacific Ocean 5 minutes south of the equator crossing for orbit 143, 35 minutes to sunset, 25 minutes to handover to East.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:25 pm
Pat will do the vent open.

They want to get them in asap.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:25 pm
Pat will do the vent open.

They want to get them in asap.

Image from Pat's HelmetCam.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:26 pm
Moving onto the H2 Vent Valve Open Ops. for this EVA, the vent valve is open!, the MMOD shield has been tethered down for now. Now on orbit 143 of the STS-117 mission, sunset is 30 minutes away.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:29 pm
19 minutes left of West KU comm coverage before handover to East, ZOE is 54 minutes away, this pass it will be a 8 minute ZOE.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: ETEE on 06/17/2007 10:31 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 17/6/2007  11:20 PM

As far as the reasons for the difficulty, there was a little blurb in last night's press conference about it.  Apparently J.R. was overheard speculating that the shield was simply not made correctly.

That's a bit of hearsay, though.
Dzus fasteners will not engage unless aligned perfectly.  There is no leeway.  So it's surprising that such a fastener was used on the shields.  Bolts would have been better IMHO.

As both shields were removed from their original positions, they SHOULD have gone back OK.  But I guess zero G environment makes it a little harder to do.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:32 pm
Station passing over northern Baja California in 7 minutes, 16 minutes to handover to East, 24 minutes to sunset.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/17/2007 10:35 pm
Right now at an PET of 6 hours, 10 minutes.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:37 pm
20 minutes to sunset on this pass, 45 minutes to the ZOE, handover to East in 11 minutes.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:38 pm
EVA 4 is coming to an end, tool inventory underway, before ingress in the airlock, they should be in the airlock before we get to the ZOE area.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: bsegal on 06/17/2007 10:39 pm
Look for a replacement MMOD shield to go up on the next shuttle flight with revised fasteners.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JMS on 06/17/2007 10:39 pm
Quote
ETEE - 17/6/2007  5:31 PM
Dzus fasteners will not engage unless aligned perfectly.  There is no leeway.  

That has been my experience as well. It's the main reason I sugested expansion/contraction of the structure to be the culprit.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:40 pm
View of the airlock.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:40 pm
7 minutes to TDRS-East handover, 16 minutes to sunset.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/17/2007 10:41 pm
World's highest toolbox:
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:41 pm
Complex is passing 211 miles over the north central US right now, 15 minutes to sunset.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:44 pm
12 minutes to sunset on orbit 143, EVA 4 crew is starting to enter tools and equipment into the airlock.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:45 pm
Happy Fathers day Spacewalkers!

Cover Closed.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:46 pm
EVA crew is entering the airlock, wishing everyone a "Happy Father's Day", and I want to wish everyone here the same! Great EVA 4!

35 minutes to ZOE, 9 minutes to sunset.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 10:48 pm
Handover to East now, 34 minutes to ZOE, hatch is closing on the airlock.

Richard
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:50 pm
Hatch Closed!
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Zachstar on 06/17/2007 10:52 pm
Preparing to move the Mobile base all the way out there.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jaredgalen on 06/17/2007 10:53 pm
Why are they moving the base out?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JJ.. on 06/17/2007 11:15 pm
sts 118 will deliver the s5 truss
it maybe getting into positon for that flight ?

whens it moving ?

JJ..
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chandonn on 06/17/2007 11:18 pm
Quote
jaredgalen - 17/6/2007  6:53 PM

Why are they moving the base out?

Well, S5 will be arriving in a couple of months, for one thing.  Also, they like to test out the various worksites as they are added, just to make sure everything's working all right.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/17/2007 11:21 pm
Last update for me for today, complex now entering the ZOE for about 8 minutes, and we should have good KU back in 20 - 30 minutes or so, great coverage everyone, thank you, talk to you all later, now I have household work to do, bummer, after such a great EVA day! Bye.

Richard
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: JimO on 06/17/2007 11:39 pm
Great narration, thanks all!

Maybe I can make an additional helpful comment, or this may have been covered already. But it's something people have asked me to explain in the past.

The AOS boundaries are traditionally a circle around the ground site where the comm facility is located (ragged for topo or structural interference along the horizon). But the AOS circles for the TDRS satellites can be puzzling, not because they are so much bigger (reasonable since the facility is in orbit) but that the AOS condition is OUTSIDE the closed circle, not inside. The TDRS for each circle is located alove 180 deg opposite the center point of the very wide circles.

The reason for this is clear with a little consideration of space geometry -- eachTDRS in a GEO slot has an AOS circle on Earth's circle that is centered directly BELOW the satellite and covers most but not all of the facing hemosphere. But an AOS circle for something IN LOW EARTH ORBIT is much wider. It is wider by about the distance of the LEO satellite to ITS horizon -- and that is wide enough to extend the 'normal' GEO AOS circle 'around the edge of the planet' into the hemisphere facing AWAY from the TDRS sat of interest.

Make a sketch -- try this at home -- to satisfy yourself that is so, and then look at the world maps with the AOS circles and figure out where each of the three TDRSS sats for the three TDRSS AOS circles are really located.

Or maybe this was already obvious and I'm being redundent. But I think the unearthly geometry is cool.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Launch Fan on 06/18/2007 12:18 am
Anyone know if there's a post EVA MSB?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/18/2007 12:21 am
Quote
Launch Fan - 18/6/2007  2:18 AM

Anyone know if there's a post EVA MSB?
Per MCC-H PAO Pat Ryan the MSB has been cancelled in favour of on-console interviews of the ISS FD and ISS EVA officer. That is coming up in the next few minutes.
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/18/2007 12:23 am
EDIT: Dave beat me....so here's some cool images as the stack heads into night:
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/18/2007 12:40 am
Keith Johnson Lead EVA director says that they are ready to rotate SARJ.

They are inline for preping ahead of the arrival of S5 on Endeavour.

MMOD panels, had problems, but in good shape with the tethers.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/18/2007 12:56 am
Still awaiting ISS FD Kelly Beck for the post-shift interview by PAO Pat Ryan.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: sts1canada on 06/18/2007 01:01 am
Quote
DaveS - 17/6/2007  8:56 PM

Still awaiting ISS FD Kelly Beck for the post-shift interview by PAO Pat Ryan.

Actually the current PAO is Kelly Humphries, Orbit 2 shift on this mission, PAO Pat Ryan is on the crew's overnight sleep period Orbit 3 shift, and PAO Kylie Clem is on the Orbit 1 shift in the morning of the crew's day.

Richard


Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: DaveS on 06/18/2007 01:07 am
Quote
sts1canada - 18/6/2007  3:01 AM

Quote
DaveS - 17/6/2007  8:56 PM

Still awaiting ISS FD Kelly Beck for the post-shift interview by PAO Pat Ryan.

Actually the current PAO is Kelly Humphries, Orbit 2 shift on this mission, PAO Pat Ryan is on the crew's overnight sleep period Orbit 3 shift, and PAO Kylie Clem is on the Orbit 1 shift in the morning of the crew's day.

Richard


OK.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Ankle-bone12 on 06/18/2007 01:16 am
How does the SRMS reach past the s4 truss structure to manuver the s5 and s6 to the end? I think the mobile base only goes as far as the s3. thats gotta be a prettty long reach, unless it has some sort of extension?

Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/18/2007 01:54 am
Quote
Ankle-bone12 - 17/6/2007  8:16 PM

How does the SRMS reach past the s4 truss structure to manuver the s5 and s6 to the end? I think the mobile base only goes as far as the s3. thats gotta be a prettty long reach, unless it has some sort of extension?


It was already done with P5, so you know that S5 is achievable.  As for S6, NASA has some video dealing with how they'll do that:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/structure/iss_manifest.html

(scroll down to STS-119)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: stockman on 06/18/2007 01:58 am
Just caught about a 7 minute visible pass of the shuttle/station - just to my north visible in Southern Ontario Canada. As always, beautiful! :)
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: mdrapp on 06/18/2007 03:06 am
Mmmm....moose pate!  :D

--Michael
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: mdrapp on 06/18/2007 03:20 am
Go for dancing...love it. :D
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: blane on 06/18/2007 03:31 am
Beautiful pass over northern Indiana  a few minutes ago... why does it appear reddish, almost like Mars?  I haven't noticed this before, is it the weather or something about the station?  Bob
Title: RE: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/18/2007 03:36 am
Quote
blane - 17/6/2007  10:31 PM

Beautiful pass over northern Indiana  a few minutes ago... why does it appear reddish, almost like Mars?  I haven't noticed this before, is it the weather or something about the station?  Bob

Saw it pass overhead here a few minutes ago.  The red is weather related, I think.

What I'm impressed with is the brightness.  I'm looking into a lot of lights (literally shining in my face) and some city haze (it's hot here) and I can still see ISS as brightly as I could out in the country before new addition (and the docked shuttle).  We'll be seeing this thing in daylight in no time.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Andrewwski on 06/18/2007 04:06 am
Just had a nice pass here too (Buffalo NY).  11:26 PM, magnitude 0.4 according to Heavens Above.  It was relatively short (only about 2 minutes), but nice and bright.  However, I didn't notice any reddish tint.  It probably has to do with weather conditions in your area.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Avron on 06/18/2007 04:11 am
Quote
stockman - 17/6/2007  9:58 PM

Just caught about a 7 minute visible pass of the shuttle/station - just to my north visible in Southern Ontario Canada. As always, beautiful! :)

Two very good passes this evening in Toronto.. first was 3 mins and the second for 2 mins... this structure is very bright.. I am amazed how much brighter its getting from the original ISS I witnessed many years ago.

On the second pass I got a few seconds of sunlight reflecting off one of the arrays and the brighness was a lot brighter than Mars... There is no way you can miss a pass anymore.. The first pass I got to resolve three areas of brighness with the unaided eye.. quite a sight..


Colour did change during the two passes.. Expect this as it is lit with light close to the terminator, and thus impacted by the earths atmosphere
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jmjawors on 06/18/2007 04:50 am
Lord knows I'm no orbital mechanic (the extent of my knowledge is that objects do, in fact, orbit the Earth) but I imagine it has to do with the angle at which the station is seen.  The closer to the horizon the ruddier it is due to the amount of atmosphere the reflected light is shining through.  My pass was somewhat far to the north, hence the reddish color.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: Bubbinski on 06/18/2007 05:06 am
Just saw ISS fly past the North Star here in Utah.  Seemed about as bright as Jupiter, probably a little brighter.  Jupiter was to the south so I was able to glimpse the two on the same pass.  Wasn't as bright as Venus.  ISS also seemed a little bit "ruddy" and when I observed it through the binoculars there was no "H" shape like I was expecting, but there was a definite beginning of a shape and some little points of light that seemed like they were flying in formation with ISS (probably reflections off other parts of the structure?), it wasn't just a round point of light.
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: jaredgalen on 06/18/2007 10:18 am
After listening to Holly in the ISS FD update, it seems they have become even more conscious of momentum changes (perhaps they are just talking more about it too?). But one good result may be innovation in the handling of momentum changes. Perhaps increased fuel efficiency through using the thrusters less.

They were seemingly working on contingencies for maintaining attitude after shuttle depart using the CMGs without thrusters. Don't have access to L2 but has this brought out anything new in attitude control?
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: triddirt on 06/18/2007 10:53 am
Crew Wake Up 7:08 EDT
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: triddirt on 06/18/2007 11:14 am
Created FD11 Thread here
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8451
Title: Re: LIVE: STS-117 Flight Day 10 - EVA 4
Post by: James Lowe1 on 06/18/2007 05:17 pm
Bump to align mission pages in order.