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ISS Director is going to take some time out to talk to whoever is up at this hour.
Will post a few images if anything interesting pops up.
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On now!
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Ok here is what I could type from the talk.
The procedure to activate the truss is over 50 pages long!
39 hours limit to get it running due to thermal limits.
Docking & Unberth were very smooth.
Orbit 3: Earlier than shuttle side and gets to be there before the crew rests.
Image1: Image of the control room after the interview you can see them chatting in the top right corner.
Image2: Sunrise!
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Live coverage of the first EVA of STS-117
Latest article: http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5129
Flight Day 4 activities include:
Station robot arm installs S3/S4 truss on the S1 truss.
Reilly and Olivas EVA #1 to connect S1/S3 power cables, release launch constraints, release solar array blanket box restraints and install Solar Alpha Rotary Joint Drive Lock Assemblies.
S3 truss and S4 electrical channel 3A and 1A activation.
Live event rules are in place.
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Will the SRB footage be shown during the press conference or after?
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MarkD - 11/6/2007 8:09 AM
Will the SRB footage be shown during the press conference or after?
No, this is different than the full press briefing on mission status that is done typically after the Orbit 1 team (the lead team) goes off-shift.
Similarly to the launch engineering replays for this launch, I would expect the SRB replays to pop-up without much notice. Any advance notice will be helpful, but it could be an hour, 30 minutes, or less. (And often is.) Perhaps John Shannon will bring an excerpt to tonight's status briefing.
These status briefings that Zachstar covered here are usually wrap-ups from Orbit 3-type shifts that PAO does "one on one" with either the shuttle or ISS flight director coming off their shift and provide an overnight wrap up of planning that is done while the crews sleep. As you could see in the video, the ISS flight director sat down in the shuttle flight control room with the shuttle Orbit 3 PAO.
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I notice Pat Ryan is pretty good about giving atleast a half hour heads up for events. Don't know about the next one up tho.
Something tells me they will line it up and plug the heck out of it before showing finally.
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View of the S3/S4 Truss segment a few hours before it is moved into position.
Going to be an Interesting day!
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 8:26 AM
I notice Pat Ryan is pretty good about giving atleast a half hour heads up for events. Don't know about the next one up tho.
Something tells me they will line it up and plug the heck out of it before showing finally.
NASA TV is pretty low-key to me and they didn't plug it that hard last time. On the last mission, for example, it ran during either one of the EVAs or during the prep for one of them (I think EVA-2).
No idea if Orbit 3 will be on-shift when the video becomes available, but I imagine that they'd want the first run to be during favorable hours here in the U.S. And Orbit 3 usually hands over to Orbit 1 after crew wake-up...
For the NASA TV watchers, one of the things done in the past was to re-run more complete tape dumps during the Video File -- note that during shuttle missions, it only runs once a day (today, it's at 10 am Eastern). So I guess that counts as notice.
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Will they soft dock the truss without the crew in the area?
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Avron - 11/6/2007 8:47 AM
Will they soft dock the truss without the crew in the area?
If it's like the port-side 3/4 truss, I believe the requirement was 3 of 4 ready to latch indicators before the EVA starts...I'll go check...
Edit: probably in numerous other places, but found it in Bill Harwood's mission data:
http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/currentglance.html
The following EMU suit donning synch points are in the Flight Plan:
* At AVU Target Acquisition: Don HUTs
* At RTL: Don Helmets
* At 2 bolts (#3 and another) or 3/4 bolts: GO for Post Depress
So it's not RTL, but 3/4 bolts...
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Coming up on crew wake-up in about 10 minutes.
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Are there any washroom facilities for the astronauts camping out in the airlock ??..what about food lockers ??
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Wildthing - 11/6/2007 8:59 AM
Are there any washroom facilities for the astronauts camping out in the airlock ??..what about food lockers ??
They get a hygiene break before the EVA starts. They will be wearing portable oxygen masks while they are outside the airlock using the Station's facilities.
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Crew Wake!
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Wake up song for Swanny. He's wife and three kids chose the song. Sounded like something country ;)
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Bio break and breakfast comming up
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Ok everyone in a couple of hours (10:08 AM CDT) the S3/S4 Install work will start.
In this image you can see a computer generated view of the positioning of the truss.
Edit2: In this image you can see the truss from another view. (With some "real" lens flare)
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If I heard this right then they are shutting down the SARJ on the P3/P4. I guess they have a full charge and want to keep the vibration down for S3/S4 install right?
Edit: Whopps It's SARJ, Thanks Ploss
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 9:34 AM
If I heard this right then they are shutting down the SARG on the P3/P4. I guess they have a full charge and want to keep the vibration down for S3/S4 install right?
FYI, it's SARJ, for "Solar Alpha Rotary Joint"
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Video file coming up!
Image1: In this image you can see Lightning. (Edit: You can also see sunrise starting from the glowing earth limb at the top right)
Image2: Awesome Sunrise image from Shuttle Camera.
Image3: Sun shines through a solar panel with the CanadaArm2 and the S3/S4 truss prepare to move in the foreground. Beautiful Sunrise!
Pat didn't mention SRB footage in today's video file :(
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Anybody have the procedure for the upcoming S3/S4 install?
It looks as if its in an ISS procedure book, according to the exe package its 'ROBOTICS: 1.102 S3/S4 INSTALL'
Edit: If not, maybe the PAO look here ;) If you do please put the above + the Orbiter Pocket Checklists on the 117 FDF public page :)
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 9:34 AM
Edit: Whopps It's SARJ, Thanks Ploss
No worries -- thanks for the running play-by-play.
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Video File in on! Ill post images if its something really good.
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Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 8:11 AM
Wake up song for Swanny. He's wife and three kids chose the song. Sounded like something country ;)
Apparently it was "It Probably Always Will Be" by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.
This crew sure does like its country music.
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Well that sucked :(
Oh well not that long now till the arm starts.
Edit2: Plan for today.
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Did the "behind the scenes" video (similar to the ascent) from docking play back last night? I thought I recorded everything but didn't see it, and I know on the last mission they did use the control room audio snippets...
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Hatch open. The Spacewalkers have around 40 mins to do what they need to do.
Then they will return, repress and start preps to don spacesuits.
Once the suits are on the cabin will repress for the hatch to open again to allow the others to assist and provide preps for final closure for spacewalk.
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rdale - 11/6/2007 9:38 AM
Did the "behind the scenes" video (similar to the ascent) from docking play back last night? I thought I recorded everything but didn't see it, and I know on the last mission they did use the control room audio snippets...
None that I have noticed. Sorry
Edit: The Shuttle robot arm will soon be moved to provide views of the move and attach of the S3/S4 truss by the Space Station CanadaArm2
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ISS Wake up music. Weird Stuff!
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Suni Turned on the Cameras so we ought to have views from the destiny lab once KU is around,
A few snapshots.
Image1: Russian Flight Control Room
Image2: Glowing Earth Limb with the Space Station CanadaArm2
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IMU performance is nominal with IMU #2 in standby mode. No issues are problems are being worked.
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Spacewalkers are back in the airlock and they are closing the hatch.
Edit: Hatch Reported closed and depress has started.
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Ok a quick look in orbiter says more or less 30 mins per night for today. Spacewalkers will have plenty of good sunshine!
Arm Operations are about to start!
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Preparing to move the Arm from inside the Destiny Lab.
Sunrise!
Edit3: Image2: Clayton really likes to chew gum!
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Ok first image is a nice shot of the S3/S4 Segment lit from a newly rose run. With Atlantis in the background.
Image 2 is a newly risen sun just itching to power that array! With Earth Limb in background.
Image 3 is post sunset and a beautiful view of the Earth.
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They seem to be pretty late on getting this move going. Anyone know what's going on?
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That is an amazingly beautiful picture on NASA TV right now....
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The move is underway!
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 4:35 PM
They seem to be pretty late on getting this move going. Anyone know what's going on?
Only problem they've had so far is a slight loss of voltage in a Fuel Cell. Within flight rules. Purged early and ok now.
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Ops continue but bad camera angle shows little.
Edit: Image2: CPU Live Generated Image shows position of CanadArm2 and S3/S4
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While this is happening we seem to have lack of KU.
EVA comm checks going on.
30 Mins until Sunset
Another CPU Generated View.
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New Camera Angle! S3/S4 Being moved into position.
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Another Camera View of the Truss!
Edit: And Another!
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Oh dear they are heading to the ZOE and SunSet so not a big chance we will see it attached to the station :(
Images from the CPU Generated View
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KU Back!
Images!
S3/S4 Being moved into position.
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Getting Close!
Edit: Just Checked TLE.. Sunset in 7 Mins
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S3/S4 Ready to move in for the attach!
Thrusters being inhibited.
CPU Generated View
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If you set aside the overbudget gripes, mission delays and Ares skepticism for a moment, realize for a second that these are the kind of space construction images we all dreamed of when we were kids.....
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For a moment I thought that warning noise was "Warning, this truss is reversing" like you get on trucks :)
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Alarm Tone Heard on NTV. Seems to be the thrusters going offline.
No KU and SunSet is near.
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 6:21 PM
Alarm Tone Heard on NTV. Seems to be the thrusters going offline.
No KU and SunSet is near.
Nope. Alarm was "CMG loss of attitude", so the CMGs are offline. No action for the crew(s).
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Lack of CMG attitude control. No crew action. Arm in hold position. Will be able to regain (inaudible) in a few (inaudible).
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ApolloLee - 11/6/2007 11:19 AM
If you set aside the overbudget gripes, mission delays and Ares skepticism for a moment, realize for a second that these are the kind of space construction images we all dreamed of when we were kids.....
Amen!
It's nice to see stuff just "work" for a change.
And these videos the crew are getting are really a GREAT idea for inspiring the children of today! They are tired of hearing doom and gloom from the media!
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ApolloLee - 11/6/2007 11:19 AM
If you set aside the overbudget gripes, mission delays and Ares skepticism for a moment, realize for a second that these are the kind of space construction images we all dreamed of when we were kids.....
True, but we're still missing the swarms of astronauts in their jetpacks running around with wrenches and other construction hardware. :)
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Do they often lose CMG attitude control? Was this an expected situation? Thanks in advance.
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KU Pass!
Ok Image 1 is a view at sunset with the S3/S4 truss nearly in position.
Image 2 is a view from a camera showing the S3/S4.
They are going to use the Shuttle DAP to control attitude.
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What song was the crew wake song today?
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Johnny Rönnberg - 11/6/2007 5:29 PM
What song was the crew wake song today?
jmjawors - 11/6/2007 3:09 PM
Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 8:11 AM
Wake up song for Swanny. He's wife and three kids chose the song. Sounded like something country ;)
Apparently it was "It Probably Always Will Be" by the Ozark Mountain Daredevils.
This crew sure does like its country music.
Resumption to Step 6 shouldn't be long (brakes on for the aforementioned reason). Atlantis to take attitude control.
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So true... I've been sitting here all morning thinking the same thing.
I grew up in a time when just getting a single person in a small capsule into orbit was considered a miracle.
The ability of the entire team (astonauts and everyone involved on the ground) to make such complex tasks look easy is truly amazing and makes me happy and priviliged to just be here to witness it.
To all of you involved in the program - thanks!
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About 15 mins left till sunrise.
How long will it take to get the CMGs back in order?
Edit: View from another camera showing the S3/S4 Very close.
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Nope - not expected. I suppose SIM SUP has run this malfunction scenario in training - more than once...
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Atlantis in attitude control, LVLH on the DAP. Recovery plan coming in the next few minutes.
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Any words on what happened to cause the attitude control failure? Correct me if I'm wrong but this could have been a *big* deal if the recovery is not smooth.
Edit do we have a time limit on the s3/4 mating?
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30-45 Mins till Recovery of the CMGs
Robotics empty ATM with brakes on.
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Norm Hartnett - 11/6/2007 6:39 PM
Any words on what happened to cause the attitude control failure? Correct me if I'm wrong but this could have been a *big* deal if the recovery is not smooth.
Edit do we have a time limit on the s3/4 mating?
Limit is 39 hours due to thermal reasons.
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CMG saturation, someone dropped the ball.
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Was the problem that the CMG's were unable to correct the attitude enough and needed to use thrusters?
That's the understanding I got from the announcer a moment ago....
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View inside the Airlock.
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Will take ~30 minutes before ISS can take control. must hold S3/S4 at pre-install position.
Flight Rule 13A_C8-4 ORBITER/STATION ATTITUDE CONTROL AND MANEUVER CONSTRAINTS AND PRIORITIES [HC] [RC]
Integrated GNC Shuttle in Attitude control (LVLH)
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Will this impact EVA ops? Looks like they are still on station lifesupport from that picture.
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I'm confused about the view inside the air lock, shouldn't the space walkers be doing some form of pre breathing? O2 IIRC. Perhaps the masks are too small to see clearly?
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SunRise!
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Thank God the fail-safes failed safe. The last thing they needed was station or shuttle thrusters firing while they have 35000lbs on a fragile arm with the brakes unlocked.
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Station back with attitude control. Atlantis in free drift.
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CMGs working again.
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Station back in control.
Moving back into attitude to resume ops.
Hopefully with good KU.
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I understand the addition of this truss assembly will really help "balance" out the station?
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Time of attitude loss was 2007:162:16:52:19 GMT
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Joey - 11/6/2007 12:10 PM
I understand the addition of this truss assembly will really help "balance" out the station?
Well, visually, yes. It'll be almost symmetrical again. But if you mean balanced by weight, not really. Technically, it's yes, as each side of the station will 'weigh' almost the same amount, but it's no issue in the zero-g environment.
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But it matters for C of G location.
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Will the attitude control problem delay the EVA or it's some extra preptime in the time line?
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I guess we are just waiting here for the station to right itself.
Meanwhile here is a image with a nice view of the earth and S3/S4 Truss.
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 7:25 PM
I guess we are just waiting here for the station to right itself.
Meanwhile here is a image with a nice view of the earth and S3/S4 Truss.
And the orbiter KU band dish in the lower left corner.
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nathan.moeller - 11/6/2007 1:16 PM Joey - 11/6/2007 12:10 PM I understand the addition of this truss assembly will really help "balance" out the station?
Well, visually, yes. It'll be almost symmetrical again. But if you mean balanced by weight, not really. Technically, it's yes, as each side of the station will 'weigh' almost the same amount, but it's no issue in the zero-g environment.
I guess I was trying to say, from the location of the CMGs vs the configuration of the station after the S3/S4 truss is installed, the CMGs would not have to "work" as hard maintaining attitude control. In other words the torque moments would be altered, making it easier on the CMGs.
Indeed, yes, the visual appearance would also be balanced too. :)
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nathan.moeller - 11/6/2007 6:16 PM
Joey - 11/6/2007 12:10 PM
I understand the addition of this truss assembly will really help "balance" out the station?
Well, visually, yes. It'll be almost symmetrical again. But if you mean balanced by weight, not really. Technically, it's yes, as each side of the station will 'weigh' almost the same amount, but it's no issue in the zero-g environment.
What about the gravity gradient? With two solar arrays nicely balancing the station is must help with the gradient - If not why did they leave one solar array extended on the last mission on the opposite side to the array they installed?
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So the new array could follow the sun, it would have hit the other one.
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Hope the reporters have the sense to ask about the cause of the CMG problems today, and the extent to which they were unanticipated. Even heard a recent call up for Yurchikin to stop exercising after the CMGs were commanded back to attitude control. Guess this will just puch the EVA timeline back until they can get the truss berthed.
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nacnud - 11/6/2007 7:32 PM
So the new array could follow the sun, it would have hit the other one.
Exactly. The 4B SAW on P6, was in the way for the SAWs on P4, just like the 2B SAW on P6 is in the way for the S4 SAWs.
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Awaiting the go to continue.
CPU Generated Image of current position.
Image2: Quick Image from Camera showing the truss again.
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Ok getting ready to go again!
Edit: Oh no! They are going stright into the ZOE and the sun will soon set. :(
Really getting behind it seems.
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Am I seeing movement?
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S3/S4 moving in.
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Images of the move.
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According to the web to desaturate the CMGs they will have to balance momentum loss from the CGMs with the RCS system. They can't do that with the arm holding the truss element. I don't think they can do it during EVA either so they will have to desaturate during the pause between latching and the EVA or after the EVA.
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Edit: Looks like the CanadaArm2 has stopped.
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Perhaps waiting for good lighting on the white reference disks? (I forget what they are called)
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Ok Arm in motion again!
Edit: Stopped
Edit2: Sunset! 30 Cm from truss. Final Align.
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30 cm to go.
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and no live video :(
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Looks like they should be leaving the ZOE shortly.
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How far behind the timeline are they at this point?
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Contact!
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Few inches from truss. Capture latches about to engage!
CG Image
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Go for helmet doning (for the EVA crew, of course)
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View of the truss.
1st stage being done.
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bsegal - 11/6/2007 11:03 AM
How far behind the timeline are they at this point?
Looks like about 35-45 minutes based on http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/117/117flightplanFD.html .
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1st Stage Capture complete.
Edit: 2nd done! Going to 3rd stage capture.
Edit2: Sunrise in 5 mins
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bsegal - 11/6/2007 11:03 AM How far behind the timeline are they at this point?
1 hour according to info on L2.
Truss view in the sun. Another space station part is now in its place :)
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Sunrise!
Nice view of the S3/S4 Truss attached.
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Go for EMU purge.
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3rd Stage Capture Complete.
Go for SSRMS Safe
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8 minutes until pressures between Quest and the rest of the station equalize (now that the suits are purging with pure oxygen) and final preparations for depress can be made.
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Spacewalkers getting ready to go.
Edit: First bolt being driven.
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A Handshake and a View of the Spacewalkers.
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Suni brings in some EVA cameras.
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Attaching the Safer packs.
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Breaking news (notes from people just coming out of a meeting with presentations on L2).
All RCC/TPS cleared for re-entry. However, OMS Pod WILL be a repair EVA - no earlier than EVA 3, may be EVA 4.
Article coming.
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Thanks Chris, that should be interesting!
Are those the SAFERs they are mounting now?
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Moving to the Airlock. Ready to attach the next SAFER.
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3/4 Bolts complete!
Ground will continue with 4th
Edit: CanadaArm2 to ungrapple the S3/S4 Truss soon.
Don't expect much Ku for a bit! Approaching the ZOE
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Norm Hartnett - 11/6/2007 11:48 AM
According to the web to desaturate the CMGs they will have to balance momentum loss from the CGMs with the RCS system. They can't do that with the arm holding the truss element. I don't think they can do it during EVA either so they will have to desaturate during the pause between latching and the EVA or after the EVA.
Does anyone know when they are going to deal with this, or if they even need to at this point?
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:) to all thats is posting updates, it can never be to much information.
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SSRMS Ungrappled the S3/S4
Whohoo! Bigger ISS!
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Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 12:18 PM
Norm Hartnett - 11/6/2007 11:48 AM
According to the web to desaturate the CMGs they will have to balance momentum loss from the CGMs with the RCS system. They can't do that with the arm holding the truss element. I don't think they can do it during EVA either so they will have to desaturate during the pause between latching and the EVA or after the EVA.
Does anyone know when they are going to deal with this, or if they even need to at this point?
Chris, anyone, is there anything on L2 on this subject?
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CG Image Showing SSRMS Moving away from the Truss.
Edit: Procedure Complete.
Edit2: Sunset!
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Norm Hartnett - 11/6/2007 8:22 PM
Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 12:18 PM
Norm Hartnett - 11/6/2007 11:48 AM
According to the web to desaturate the CMGs they will have to balance momentum loss from the CGMs with the RCS system. They can't do that with the arm holding the truss element. I don't think they can do it during EVA either so they will have to desaturate during the pause between latching and the EVA or after the EVA.
Does anyone know when they are going to deal with this, or if they even need to at this point?
Chris, anyone, is there anything on L2 on this subject?
If we get something I will copy it over. We've been following the OPO side of things with Team 4 and the OMS decision.
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Go for crew lock depress.
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Nice view of the moon rising across the CanadArm-2
Note to front page editor: Misspelling of Atlantis (Altantis') on lead story.
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4/4 Bolts! Welcome to the station S3/S4!
8 Psi
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It's not really momentum loss, it attitude hold. The station uses CMG's to do this and thrusters on the Russian segment if necessary. Orbiter does not have CMG's obviously so if we are in control of the stack and have to hold attitude we use the vernier thrusters. These produce approx 25 lbs of thrust each.
Last I heard there was no plan to put Atlantis in control.
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Speedracer - 11/6/2007 8:39 PM
Note to front page editor: Misspelling of Atlantis (Altantis') on lead story.
I was just testing you - well done, you passed :bleh:
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5 PSI
Sunrise in 5 mins.
Image of newly installed truss and CanadaArm2
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If a 4th EVA is needed, does it extend mission duration one day or two?
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OV-106 - 11/6/2007 12:43 PM
It's not really momentum loss, it attitude hold. The station uses CMG's to do this and thrusters on the Russian segment if necessary. Orbiter does not have CMG's obviously so if we are in control of the stack and have to hold attitude we use the vernier thrusters. These produce approx 25 lbs of thrust each.
Last I heard there was no plan to put Atlantis in control.
With the CMGs saturated attitude hold is not possible with them unless they are desaturated. This requires that the shuttle uses vernier thrusters for attitude hold but that was not desirable during the 3/4 mounting. Is it ok to use thrusters during EVA or were the CMGs desaturated during the pause in operations following CMG attitude control failure?
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The Shuttle DAP was on at the time. So thrusters were on.
The SSRMS had brakes on so it was safe.
2 PSI
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Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 3:44 PM
Speedracer - 11/6/2007 8:39 PM
Note to front page editor: Misspelling of Atlantis (Altantis') on lead story.
I was just testing you - well done, you passed :bleh:
Thnak you ;)
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Image of the new addition to the ISS S3/S4.
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Our first view of the hatch!
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Hatch Open!
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 12:53 PM
The Shuttle DAP was on at the time. So thrusters were on.
The SSRMS had brakes on so it was safe.
2 PSI
At the time of CMG saturation the brakes were off. Thrusters were inhibitated and were activated shortly after saturation alarm after the brakes were activated. Since they are not talking about it it is likely that CMGs were desaturated in the 35-45 minute pause after the alarm.
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EMUs on battery power, EVA-1 underway.
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Video from the airlock!
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Egress!
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Still coming out of the hatch:
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Coming out of the hatch, moving to the truss.
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Jim Reilly's helmet cam, hooking up tethers, and moving down the ISS.
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Still heading towards the truss:
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The view of the shuttle from the truss cameras NEVER gets old. Stunning!
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Hope they are careful with the gloves!
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Making sure the bag doesn't go anywhere:
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Very nice view of the ISS and Shuttle docked, while our fellow spacewalker moves along:
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Jim is at the S3, getting ready to start working.
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ISS is just so big, compared to the spacewalkers!
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All strapped on, ready for work.
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Closeup of Danny starting his work, initial setup complete:
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Releasing restraints on the Solar Array Blanket Boxes:
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chksix - 11/6/2007 9:21 PM
Hope they are careful with the gloves!
They are checking after each task. If they find anything, like a cut or tear, they will be able to localize where it happened.
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chksix - 11/6/2007 4:21 PM
Hope they are careful with the gloves!
They will check them after every task is completed.
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One restraint unscrewed.
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And off they go!
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Great!
All the handrails look a bit sharp edged to me, can't it be long term usage of the thumbgrip of the gloves that causes the abrasion?
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Jim hard at work
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What they stand on:
Picture 2: All tethered up
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15 Mins till sunset. Enjoy the views because it will approach the ZOE
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Putting a power chord in place:
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Removing another set of blanket box locks.
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Nadir utility tray complete, all cables connected.
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"My glove is good, no damage" Certainly inspecting after every task.
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Heading into sunset and orbit night:
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Definitely getting darker, and you can see some lights from the suit coming on:
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Wonderful shot of the earth's atmosphere, the ISS, and one of our spacewalkers!
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Why the comments about checking the gloves?
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Paul Howard - 11/6/2007 10:03 PM
Why the comments about checking the gloves?
Goes back to an exclusive of ours (other media also covered it but a few months later).
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5074
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Paul Howard - 11/6/2007 5:03 PM
Why the comments about checking the gloves?
Curbeam had a cut in his glove (nothing major [not deep]), and they just want to make sure the astronauts are safe.
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20 Mins to Sunrise.
Going into the deep of the ZOE
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Go for shroud removal. Work completed on the lower utility tray.
Also, work removing launch restraints on the aft blanket box is completed, moving on to do so on the forward one.
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Now around 13 minutes to sunrise, sunrise is needed to jettison the S3 MDM thermal shroud just removed, now moving back in range of TDRS West, should have some KU coverage in about 15 minutes according the FD4 execute summary flightplan.
Richard
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Orbit night, loss of KU, and going off S-Band:
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MMOD event being investigated. Hit was registered on WLE sensors.
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Story updated with news of MMOD and that it appears the MMT is now looking to move EVA 3 to EVA 4, allowing OMS Pod repair to EVA 3.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5130
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Orbital sunrise and orbit day up there.. Still on S-Band.
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Camera right out of Atlantis, Danny O in the center part of the shot, and Jim in the top. Hard at work.
Danny O - Releasing the locks on the blanket box, finishing that up.
Jim R - Still hooking up the cables for the powerup.
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Is it just me or does it seem like the video quality is better on this mission? This EVA video seems much clearer than past EVAs I've watched.
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Looks like they are finishing the upper utility tray and getting the blanket boxes released
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Zenith tray complete
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Removing the blanket box locks.
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Very nice shot of Atlantis, from Jim's helmet cam.
Jim jettisons the bag
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cover tossed overboard...nice
15 mins ahead now
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Trying to keep up with this, so apologies to non L2 members where I'm just throwing it in there.
STS-117 has been extended two days by the MMT. Crew will be informed at the end of today.
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Danny does a quick glove check
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Getting tools from the 'toolbox'.
JR Gives us a GREAT shot of the Earth!
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Moving on to release of beta-gimble constraints.
"just hanging out"..
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KU TV is now through TDRS West, should have TV coverage for about ten more minutes on this pass until a handover to TDRS East occurs, sunset occurs in 15 minutes on this pass.
Richard
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Danny and JR at the toolbox.
"What's up?"
"Not much, just hanging around!"
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Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 3:56 PM
STS-117 has been extended two days by the MMT. Crew will be informed at the end of today.
Apologies for getting a little lost in all the recent changes, but please refresh me on station power transfer and cryogenics capabilities/duration on this flight.
Chris, thanks for letting us know even before the crew does!
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Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 12:07 AM
Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 3:56 PM
STS-117 has been extended two days by the MMT. Crew will be informed at the end of today.
Apologies for getting a little lost in all the recent changes, but please refresh me on station power transfer and cryogenics capabilities/duration on this flight.
Chris, thanks for letting us know even before the crew does!
No SSPTS on OV-104, only available on OV-103 and OV-105. So they probably have done a good job managing PRSD cryos.
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This shows the curve of the Earth we're sitting on, and if I heard correct, they are about to release the radiator!
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If there's a fourth EVA, who will be conducting it. Do you think it would be Pat and Swanny, given they only have EVA 2 while JR and Danny have both EVA 1 and 3?
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Danny is releasing a bolt.
Wrapping up on restraints and getting ready to work on the Radiator.
Jeff is about to work with the aft Gimbal Restraints.
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EVA going good.
They are "Head over Heels"
Image 2: Closeup
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DaveS - 11/6/2007 4:08 PM
Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 12:07 AM
Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 3:56 PM
STS-117 has been extended two days by the MMT. Crew will be informed at the end of today.
Apologies for getting a little lost in all the recent changes, but please refresh me on station power transfer and cryogenics capabilities/duration on this flight.
Chris, thanks for letting us know even before the crew does!
No SSPTS on OV-104, only available on OV-103 and OV-105. So they probably have done a good job managing PRSD cryos.
Thank you Dave.
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This mission STS-117 is set for a 11+2+2 duration which means that the primary mission is scheduled for 11 days, there are 2 extension days available and 2 weather wave off days available. Atlantis has enough consumables (oxygen, hydrogen for the fuel cells) on board to support this. Now the mission is extended to 13 days with two weather wave off days, but they will probably land on the first day opportunity if the weather is good somewhere else than KSC. The station/shuttle power transfer system is not installed on Atlantis and it is not available as an option on this flight, the first flight of this system will be on STS-118.
Richard
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Danny is working with the radiator.
Image 3 is his helmet cam with him working with the Pistol Grip Tool.
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So, does this mean a likely re-activation of White Sands?
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Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 12:16 AM
So, does this mean a likely re-activation of White Sands?
White Sands is always called up along with Edwards as it is alternate EOM landing site.
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Nice shot of the folded radiator as Danny moves on.
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Danny helps move the line as JR moves on.
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Out goes the Beta-gimble box..
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One beta gimbal assembly out.
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One of the canisters has been moved into position.
JR seems to be working on the other.
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Helmet cam view from JR.
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That is possible but it is way to early to speculate on where Atlantis is going to land on the first opportunity available on Thursday, June 21st. Based on a noon-mid-afternoon deorbit time line at that time, KSC may have sea breeze showers etc., so I would think that Edwards would be first choice, then KSC and then White Sands. Let us get focused back on the mission at hand, I don't want to spoil this thread with speculation.
Coverage is now on TDRS East, ZOE in 20 minutes, sunset in 8 minutes.
Richard
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Helmet Cam: Danny
Working on getting the radiator ready to deploy.
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More Views of Danny as the works on the radiator.
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Danny Swings around as he works on getting the radiator ready to deploy.
EVA Going VERY well!
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Woah got a weird transition image!
Danny is moving.
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Danny is working on the other side of the radiator now. Quickly preparing the kit for deployment.
Sunset!
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It is now night as Danny continues to prepare for the deployment.
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Forward array is now free
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Forward array is released.
Danny Working on the radiator
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radiator taking time.. forward array is away... 4 locks
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4/4 locks! Forward Array is released and deployed!
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radiator looks free
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Zachstar - 12/6/2007 12:34 AM
4/4 locks! Forward Array is released and deployed!
Not so. Still stowed. It's only released at this time.
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The radiator seems loose and good for deployment.
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DaveS - 11/6/2007 6:35 PM
Zachstar - 12/6/2007 12:34 AM
4/4 locks! Forward Array is released and deployed!
Not so. Still stowed. It's only released at this time.
Still have to crank the wings open for depoy
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Now on S-Band as the Station is pretty close to the ZOE.
Sunrise in 20 mins.
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Avron - 12/6/2007 12:36 AM
DaveS - 11/6/2007 6:35 PM
Zachstar - 12/6/2007 12:34 AM
4/4 locks! Forward Array is released and deployed!
Not so. Still stowed. It's only released at this time.
Still have to crank the wings open for depoy
It's motor driven and commanded from ISS FCR.
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5 minutes to ZOE, still video images now through S-Band, 20 minutes to coverage through TDRS-West and 22 minutes to sunrise.
Richard
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 5:37 PM
5 minutes to ZOE, still video images now through S-Band, 20 minutes to coverage through TDRS-West and 22 minutes to sunrise.
Richard
Just want to thank you for those notes. They are VERY helpful as I have a hard time discerning those TDRS times in the Exec Pack.
Keep em coming please!
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Order:Wings cranked open, the deploy of the arrays... the rad is later?
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Images
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Danny is done removing restraints on the radiator.
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Looks they are getting on the Canasters for deployment.
Edit: They are removing Pins to prepare for deployment.
2 hours 40 mins duration spacewalk so far
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 3:31 PM
It is now night as Danny continues to prepare for the deployment.
Nice shots! The receding rays of the sun are giving Danny a bath in golden light.
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Deploying the arrays!
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And tommorow on FD5, we will see the deployment of the S4 SAWs-
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Thanks Zachstar, I appreciate the comments, I am using a satellite tracking program called STS Orbit Plus ( a shareware DOS based program) while watching the coverage of the EVA on my PC. I am just trying to let everyone know when we can expect TV coverage, sunrise and sunset during the EVA based on the information this program provides and the daily execute packages. All the times that I post are estimates, they are not exact to the minute times.
Richard
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3 More images.
Ku!
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Deployed canister.
View of JR
Good Ku!
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Wonderful View of JR!
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 5:44 PM
Thanks Zachstar, I appreciate the comments, I am using a satellite tracking program called STS Orbit Plus ( a shareware DOS based program) while watching the coverage of the EVA on my PC. I am just trying to let everyone know when we can expect TV coverage, sunrise and sunset during the EVA based on the information this program provides and the daily execute packages. All the times that I post are estimates, they are not exact to the minute times.
Richard
Is that like STS-Plus?
Well they may be est. but they are good ones.
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Iss now has 6 wings and three array sets...
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View of the S3/S4 Truss with deployed canister.
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About 11 minutes to sunrise, yes they should still be in a night pass even though the image in the video is bright, we appear to have some bonus TDRS-Z KU video coverage during this ZOE pass! I comfirmed this by look at the FD4 summary time line under TDRS-Z coverage, white bar listed for KU!
Richard
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Actually you are right, it is the same program! I just called it by it older name! Thanks!
Richard
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Sunrise!!
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It is not sunrise yet, about five minutes away still, you can see the approaching sunrise when the camera pans out and shows the blue atmosphere of the earth in the distance.
Richard
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 5:50 PM
About 11 minutes to sunrise, yes they should still be in a night pass even though the image in the video is bright, we appear to have some bonus TDRS-Z KU video coverage during this ZOE pass! I comfirmed this by look at the FD4 summary time line under TDRS-Z coverage, white bar listed for KU!
Richard
Thanks for the Info! That is some great news!
I didn't know that program could tell you TDRSS passes! Do you have to input ISS Orientation?
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Stunningly Beautiful Sunrise!
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13 Mins of ratty comm.
Lost KU for now.
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Added Event: 7PM CDT 8PM EDT
Post MMT Briefing.
Prepare for a Media Circus about the extra days and clearings.
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Cover Jettisoned!
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I use the STS-117 orbital elements from JSC and STS Orbit Plus will calculate and show the TDRS times and sunrise & sunset times for STS-117 for each orbit, for instance right now it tells me that we have entered in TDRS-West coverage (usually great TV KU coverage on this TDRS) and we will be on this TDRS Ku pass for 50 minutes so we should get some great TV when the linkup from the station/shuttle is more in sight with TDRS-West. This will be a daylight pass too and we will be in daylight until 8 PM EDT time (when a post-MMT briefing is to be aired).
Richard
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 6:02 PM
I use the STS-117 orbital elements from JSC and STS Orbit Plus will calculate and show the TDRS times and sunrise & sunset times for STS-117 for each orbit, for instance right now it tells me that we have entered in TDRS-West coverage (usually great TV KU coverage on this TDRS) and we will be on this TDRS Ku pass for 50 minutes so we should get some great TV when the linkup from the station/shuttle is more in sight with TDRS-West. This will be a daylight pass too and we will be in daylight until 8 PM EDT time (when a post-MMT briefing is to be aired).
Richard
During this ratty comm period could you post a few screenshots from your STS-Plus setup?
Another Jettison!
Edit: Could I also have a link to where you get the JSC 117 Elements? Are they in TXT forum for easy loading?
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Just over 3 hours into the spacewalk.
Ratty Comm and no Ku still :(
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 5:55 PM Stunningly Beautiful Sunrise!
Even the ISS is happy :D
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And yet another jettison!
10 deg V bar
4 FPS
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S-Band stills.
Or not
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Another Jettison! Gah all this with no Ku!
5 deg Vbar
Good Gloves
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Zachstar, I posted a screen shot of STS Orbit Plus, as known as STS Plus, as you asked, it is a DOS based program which you can run inside Windows 98 or Windows XP. I am running this program inside another program called DOSBOX becuase I am using the VISTA operating system and I cannot run DOS programs like this in full screen mode in VISTA like you can do in XP or Windows 98. The sunrise, sunset, TDRS times are listed in the lower righthand corner, that is what I am referring to when posting these times. It fills in the gaps that the NASA PAO makes sometimes.
Richard
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Anyone else noticing that you seem to get better Ku video from north of the equator?
Pointless near the Zoe,
and Stills near Australia?
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Thanks for that screenshot and explanation sts1!
Spacewalkers moving on to next jobs. (I diddnt hear what they were)
Anyone who is watching feel free to add detail on the jobs and report as much as you want!
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Ku! South Pacific!
View of the Truss
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With the extra EVA now alotted for OMS pod repair, things are going to get really dicey if the other solar array on the P6 truss has trouble folding up like the previous one did.... Let alone if their trouble opening up the new array.
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Close view of the "Face on ISS" :bleh: :laugh:
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It depends on the angle between the shuttle KU antenna and the TDRS satellite that is fixed in a certain point in the sky when viewed from the shuttle, the shuttle is constantly orbiting the earth 16 times a day. The TDRS satellites are about 35000 miles higher than the shuttle orbit and they orbit the earth once a day and since the TDRS orbit at the same speed as the earth's rotation, the TDRS satellites appear to be standing still relative to the shuttle and ground. When the ISS/shuttle pass near or directly under the TDRS, coverage is great, and as it moves away, the coverage starts to get blocked.
Richard
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ApolloLee - 11/6/2007 6:16 PM
With the extra EVA now alotted for OMS pod repair, things are going to get really dicey if the other solar array on the P6 truss has trouble folding up like the previous one did.... Let alone if their trouble opening up the new array.
I don't know, This crew seems to have a habit of getting stuff done on time and usually early. I'm sure if the retract acts up they will beat it into submission within an hour or so. They know how to handle this junk now.
And the OMS pod blanket tuck and pin wont take long at all! Im sure they wanted that extra EVA to get more of these get aheads done.
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 7:12 PM
Zachstar, I posted a screen shot of STS Orbit Plus, as known as STS Plus, as you asked, it is a DOS based program which you can run inside Windows 98 or Windows XP.
All this talk about STSPLUS (and the sad passing of David Ransom) and I'm going to have to go dust off my 8-year old laptop and run some TLEs through STSPLUS in DOS 6.22...
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 6:20 PM
It depends on the angle between the shuttle KU antenna and the TDRS satellite that is fixed in a certain point in the sky when viewed from the shuttle, the shuttle is constantly orbiting the earth 16 times a day. The TDRS satellites are about 35000 miles higher than the shuttle orbit and they orbit the earth once a day and since the TDRS orbit at the same speed as the earth's rotation, the TDRS satellites appear to be standing still relative to the shuttle and ground. When the ISS/shuttle pass near or directly under the TDRS, coverage is great, and as it moves away, the coverage starts to get blocked.
Richard
Of course! We just outta have a way to predict that based on orbit attitude and gimbal range of the 2 Ku systems.
Then we could really make a prediction on passes!
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A point to make is that the Ku dishes have to have a direct Line of Sight to the TDRSS in question. This Line of Sight is often blocked or the angles that the dish can point have been reduced (to protect Eva members, sensitive electronics etc), this is why quite often we don't have Ku when it looks like we should.
One of the 117 documents gives a table of times of reduced Ku coverage.
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psloss - 11/6/2007 6:21 PM
sts1canada - 11/6/2007 7:12 PM
Zachstar, I posted a screen shot of STS Orbit Plus, as known as STS Plus, as you asked, it is a DOS based program which you can run inside Windows 98 or Windows XP.
All this talk about STSPLUS (and the sad passing of David Ransom) and I'm going to have to go dust off my 8-year old laptop and run some TLEs through STSPLUS in DOS 6.22...
Go for it! And matter of fact, After this EVA im gonna start a STS-Plus fan topic for us.
I just need to learn how to use it better! :bleh:
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Wow these spacewalkers are hauling serious a**
40 yes 40 mins ahead of timeline!
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Great idea, Phillip! It is nice to watch the NASA TV coverage on one screen and see where the orbiter is on STS PLUS on another window/screen. Now 35 minutes to sunset on this pass!
Richard
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Can someone tell us what the spacewalkers are currently doing? I kinda got lost, sorry!
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Awesome View of the truss!
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They are now installing the drive lock assemblies (DLA) that are motors that that will be turning the gear teeth of the SARJ joint (the joint that rotates the arrays in a complete circle) when they are extended (after the remaining P6 array is retracted later this mission).
Richard
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Using the tools. HelmetCam Image.
Can someone take over the reporting in 10 mins for about 10 mins? Ive got a flyover coming directly over and I may be able to catch a glimpe with the high beta angle!
3:30 Hour long spacewalk so far!
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 7:26 PM
Great idea, Phillip! It is nice to watch the NASA TV coverage on one screen and see where the orbiter is on STS PLUS on another window/screen. Now 35 minutes to sunset on this pass!
Richard
STSPLUS runs great on old computers...I'm old enough that I used to transfer David's updates off his BBS. It was great for shuttle, Mir, and ISS passes when I lived in L.A. and San Diego.
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sts1canada - 11/6/2007 6:31 PM
They are now installing the drive lock assemblies (DLA) that are motors that that will be turning the gear teeth of the SARJ joint (the joint that rotates the arrays in a complete circle) when they are extended (after the remaining P6 array is retracted later this mission).
Richard
Thanks! I can see that work on the alpha joints (Launch Load to Orbit Load) is next.
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sts1canada - 12/6/2007 1:31 AM
They are now installing the drive lock assemblies (DLA) that are motors that that will be turning the gear teeth of the SARJ joint (the joint that rotates the arrays in a complete circle) when they are extended (after the remaining P6 array is retracted later this mission).
Richard
Are there any concerns that the S3 SARJ might run into the same DLA troubles that the P3 SARJ did back 115 last year?
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HelmetCam Images!
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25 minutes to sunset, Danny is working on the AJIS struts: Alpha joint interface structure (internal braces) to strengthen the S4 SARJ joint, Jim will be helping him complete this task when his feet warm up as he reported.
Richard
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Nice View of the spacewalkers working!
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Ok yall im gonna try to catch a pass!
STS1 DaveS Ploss and whoever please post detailed updates for the next 10 while im away and not posting images.
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I think the problem with the P3/P4 SARJ joint on STS-115 was due to software limits being too sensitive and they uploaded new software changes to make the SARJ joint not tripp any software limits.
Richard
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FYI, on TV...the upcoming briefing will be on the Media Channel while EVA coverage continues on the Public Channel...
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Are cold feet a common thing for astronauts on spacewalks?
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The post-MMT meeting briefing will be aired on NASA TV Media Channel while the Public Channel continues with EVA-1 coverage.
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Crew informed that they are one hour ahead of the EVA timeline, despite the late start.
Option to come in on time, or if they would like to move to get-ahead tasks.
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Is there internet access to the media channel?
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45 minutes to radiator deploy.
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Radiator deploy is targeted for 00:30 GMT (8:30 PM EDT) as called up by MCC-Houston to the crew, about fifteen minutes to sunset, the EVA crew is back on their time line after making up the hour that they started late and MCC-H asked them if they would like to do any get ahead tasks or come in at their scheduled time when the EVA is done.
Richard
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Norm Hartnett - 12/6/2007 12:44 AM
Is there internet access to the media channel?
Everything can be found on the one stop page at NASA.gov: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
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Chris Bergin - 12/6/2007 12:46 AM
Norm Hartnett - 12/6/2007 12:44 AM
Is there internet access to the media channel?
Everything can be found on the one stop page at NASA.gov: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
can anyone get the 2 media channel links to work?
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Ok thanks everyone. I'm back now.
Failure to see the station tho :( Too many clouds.
Image
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gordo - 11/6/2007 6:48 PM
can anyone get the 2 media channel links to work?
No
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I cant get the Media feed playing on VLC, Windows Media, Nor Media Player Classic :(
John44 I hope you will record it.
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Around five minutes to orbital sunset on this pass, if the radiator deploy occurs at 00:30 GMT (8:30 PM EDT) as suggested by MCC-H, it will occur at the next orbital sunrise pass.
Richard
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Images from the spacewalkers.
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Someone needs to tell this commentator that nobody can access the Media Feed!
Im sure the number of connected users ought to be a tell tell sign!
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Seems to be up now. :)
Thanks Chris!
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And now it's gone.
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Well while we figure this mess out.
Here is another Image!
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Sunset!
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My wife saw the smiley face on the cover on S3/4... Anyone got the 411 on that? It takes a smiley face to get her interested in space! ;)
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Moving into sunset now! pretty sight with the daylight behind them below!
Richard
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View of ISS Control Room
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elmarko - 11/6/2007 7:06 PM
No joy with the media feed on either WMV or Real, by the way.
+1
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 8:01 PM
View of Mission Control
That's the ISS MCC, by the way...
Edit: been having problems with the Media Channel link for hours...I'm guessing that the only people who will see the briefing is the participants (briefer and reporters).
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This is a post-MMT meeting briefing that I really would have like to have heard.
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psloss - 11/6/2007 7:08 PM
Zachstar - 11/6/2007 8:01 PM
View of Mission Control
That's the ISS MCC, by the way...
How about ISS Control Room.
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The briefing is now on the public channel - though apparently only on Real Player and Quicktime feeds at the moment.
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Still no luck with the Media Channel feed here.
Trying both Windows Media Player and Media Player Classic (Real). Let's hope they wait with the breefing until the feed is up.
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Final Main Planned Task: Work together on Launch launch for the rotary joint.
16 Locks 10 restraints designed to handle loads and vibrations during launch.
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HKS - 11/6/2007 7:10 PM
Let's hope they wait with the breefing until the feed is up.
Briefing has started: mission extended by two days and a fourth spacewalk (as already known).
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collectSPACE - 11/6/2007 8:10 PM
The briefing is now on the public channel - though apparently only on Real Player and Quicktime feeds at the moment.
The Quicktime link on the NASA TV page is giving me the EVA...
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collectSPACE - 11/6/2007 7:10 PM
The briefing is now on the public channel - though apparently only on Real Player and Quicktime feeds at the moment.
Thanks! Good feed!
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We are now on TDRS-East for the next 12 minutes to be followed by the ZOE which is 12 minutes long, we will move into TDRS-West range in 24 minutes and then we should get some KU coverage then. However we were lucky on the last orbital pass where we got some rare KU on TDRS-Z in the ZOE area so we may get some coverage soon but I don't expect it. Sunrise occurs around 00:29 GMT (8:29 PM EDT) around the same time the radiator will be deployed, that will occur when the shuttle is in sunlight/KU coverage so MCC-H can watch the deployment.
Richard
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Zachstar - 12/6/2007 1:13 AM
collectSPACE - 11/6/2007 7:10 PM
The briefing is now on the public channel - though apparently only on Real Player and Quicktime feeds at the moment.
Thanks! Good feed!
Seconded. That's strange, but I can live with it :)
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Now have KU TV through TDRS Z while still in the ZOE, sunrise is about four minutes away, no word on rad deployment yet but is should occur in this upcoming daylight pass which lasts from 00:29 GMT to 1:31 GMT (8:29 PM to 9:31 PM EDT). Crew has been given a GO for Step 6 of Rad deploy!
Richard
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Rad deploy is soon, they are waiting for Danny to move away from the rad site as he finishes his work in this area.
Richard
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Blue Glow!
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Well, thankfully for those who missed it or parts of it, the John Shannon briefing will be replayed overnight on the Public Channel...
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Ready for the deploy!
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Here comes the rad deploy, step 6 by the crew is in work! We just lost KU as the shuttle/station is blocking the signal going to TDRS-West right as the rad was deploying!
Richard
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Radiator being deployed!
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Grr. horrible time to lose video..
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We have a HelmetCam view
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16 is JR and 18 is Danny.
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And a good view of the deploying radiator!
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NASA says two extra days and an EVA to repair blanket damage!!!
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tommy - 11/6/2007 7:44 PM
NASA says two extra days and an EVA to repair blanket damage!!!
Keep up ;) http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5130 was six hours ago and it was on L2 earlier than that. This site is the first place for news.
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More Views of the Radiator deploying.
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Almost fully deployed
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Another Cool View!
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Good Deploy!
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The spacewalkers continue on the launch lock removal.
Sounds like lots of extra time for get aheads! They ought to take this chance and clear some of the extra stuff to save time for retract work.
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View of the S3/S4 Truss with recently deployed canisters and Radiator.
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The shuttle station complex is passing over New Zealand coming up on orbit 50 of the STS-117 mission when she crosses the equator, 40 minutes left of the daylight in this pass. EVA crew is removing some of the launch locks off of the SARJ as this EVA starts to come to a close in a hour or so.
Richard
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The only surprise with the Shannon briefing was that NASA had been considering another EVA since launch as their cryo status was very good having launched at the first attempt. The OMS repair is estimated at taking 90 minutes, so there will be a lot of get aheads to slot in. They have yet to decide whether they will do the blanket repair in EVA 3 or 4.
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View of the spacewalkers. Also you can see the Ku dish on the bottom left.
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ETEE - 11/6/2007 8:55 PM
The only surprise with the Shannon briefing was that NASA had been considering another EVA since launch as their cryo status was very good having launched at the first attempt. The OMS repair is estimated at taking 90 minutes, so there will be a lot of get aheads to slot in. They have yet to decide whether they will do the blanket repair in EVA 3 or 4.
I don't know -- I was mildly surprised at the remark that the repair is essentially a prerequisite for de-orbit. (And that prompted some what-ifs, too, regarding contingencies.)
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View of JR discussing get ahead options.
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Looks like a few small get ahead tasks.
JR is looking forward to some Coffee!
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ETEE - 12/6/2007 1:55 AM
The only surprise with the Shannon briefing was that NASA had been considering another EVA since launch as their cryo status was very good having launched at the first attempt. The OMS repair is estimated at taking 90 minutes, so there will be a lot of get aheads to slot in. They have yet to decide whether they will do the blanket repair in EVA 3 or 4.
It'll be EVA 3 from reading through everything we've gotten hold of earlier today. Will bring the actual decision sometime tomorrow.
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With the repair only requiring an estimated 90 min they will probably add some get ahead tasks too.
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View from Danny's Helmet cam. As he completes the last set of locks.
5:11 Duration
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Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 9:08 PM
It'll be EVA 3 from reading through everything we've gotten hold of earlier today. Will bring the actual decision sometime tomorrow.
Probably lots more tomorrow with the decision, but now I'm wondering where this new task sits on the priority list, particularly with respect to however difficult it is to get the P6 wing retracted. The way I heard Mr. Shannon from the briefing, it sounds like fixing the blanket might take precedent.
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Mise well be. Let them quickly get to the arm and get it done and not have to worry about it during the EVA.
Leaving EVA 4 for anything else.
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Another View of JR
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Helmet Cam
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Any thoughts on why they're not trying to fit more get-aheads in?
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Ten minutes left of daylight in this pass, coverage of KU through TDRS-West will end in around 15 minutes or so.The next events we may see televised during the next TDRS-West pass after passing through the ZOE in about 45 minutes will be cleanup and ingress into the airlock.
Richard
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Quick zoom view as Danny prepares to move.
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I find the schedule for P6-2B retraction rather odd. Given how hands on the last retraction was there is 5 hours of remote retraction scheduled and only 45 min of EVA retraction during EVA 2. Odd.
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Approaching Sunset as JR continues to work.
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They discussed doing some get ahead tasks earlier that were planned for EVA 2 but they decided to leave the tasks planned for EVA 2 alone and do them on EVA 2 to keep the choreographing of EVA 2 the same as they had trained for on the ground. That is the explanation I heard from the crew to MCC-H.
This is my last post for the night everyone, fantastic coverage and screen shots, thanks!
Richard
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bsegal - 11/6/2007 9:22 PM
Any thoughts on why they're not trying to fit more get-aheads in?
Didn't catch the entire discussion, but I thought I heard someone talk about the choreography for the next EVA and not wanting to disrupt that too much. So perhaps that was one of the factors that was considered...
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Norm Hartnett - 12/6/2007 3:27 AM
I find the schedule for P6-2B retraction rather odd. Given how hands on the last retraction was there is 5 hours of remote retraction scheduled and only 45 min of EVA retraction during EVA 2. Odd.
Well, the plan this time is to stop the blankets from folding the wrong way. If they can counter this early(on 116 the damage was already done), there's a good chance that it might fold well and not require so much hands-on work that the 4B SAW did.
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Danny removes a target.
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Sunset!
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Danny discusses a bolt issue.
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psloss - 11/6/2007 9:28 PM
bsegal - 11/6/2007 9:22 PM
Any thoughts on why they're not trying to fit more get-aheads in?
Didn't catch the entire discussion, but I thought I heard someone talk about the choreography for the next EVA and not wanting to disrupt that too much. So perhaps that was one of the factors that was considered...
Yeah, I heard that too, but not sure it makes a lot of sense. If they were able to remove the other couple SARJ locks while they were there, that potentially would have freed up a decent amount of contingency time to deal with array retraction problems, if they came up. Regardless, a good day in space today to be sure.
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bsegal - 11/6/2007 6:35 PM
psloss - 11/6/2007 9:28 PM
bsegal - 11/6/2007 9:22 PM
Any thoughts on why they're not trying to fit more get-aheads in?
Didn't catch the entire discussion, but I thought I heard someone talk about the choreography for the next EVA and not wanting to disrupt that too much. So perhaps that was one of the factors that was considered...
Yeah, I heard that too, but not sure it makes a lot of sense. If they were able to remove the other couple SARJ locks while they were there, that potentially would have freed up a decent amount of contingency time to deal with array retraction problems, if they came up. Regardless, a good day in space today to be sure.
Don't forget that they spent an extra hour suited up sitting in the airlock waiting.
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FWIW, the briefing slides from the post MMT briefing are up:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts117/news/pmmtb_061107.html
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View of the Airlock.
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STS 117 / OV 104
On orbit ops in work
Edwards AFB is the prime landing site for Monday and Tuesday
No KSC convoy support required.
For Pad A
Post launch washdowns and inspections continue.
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Sunrise!
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Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 7:57 PM
STS 117 / OV 104
On orbit ops in work
Edwards AFB is the prime landing site for Monday and Tuesday
No KSC convoy support required.
Why is Edwards the primary? I thought they always wanted to land at KSC to save time in the flow.
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JR comes into view.
6:03 EVA Duration
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JR Ingresses the Airlock!
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GO to close the hatch
& Hatch is CLOSED
Image of Airlock
6:11 EVA Duration
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This Airlock has many colors. A real treat to see during sunrise!
EVA on Hardline now
EDIT: Press has started EVA COMPLETE
6:15 Unofficial EVA Duration
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Lee Jay - 11/6/2007 7:03 PM
Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 7:57 PM
STS 117 / OV 104
On orbit ops in work
Edwards AFB is the prime landing site for Monday and Tuesday
No KSC convoy support required.
Why is Edwards the primary? I thought they always wanted to land at KSC to save time in the flow.
Not only time, but also 1 million dollars!
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Lee Jay - 12/6/2007 3:03 AM
Chris Bergin - 11/6/2007 7:57 PM
STS 117 / OV 104
On orbit ops in work
Edwards AFB is the prime landing site for Monday and Tuesday
No KSC convoy support required.
Why is Edwards the primary? I thought they always wanted to land at KSC to save time in the flow.
KSC is always the primary. Maybe they project weather showing Edwards is the likely primary for those days. However, no explanation came with that note I posted. Not that they are scheduled landing days anyway.
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While the press is going on NASA TV is showing some NICE Camera views.
I don't want to post any more images in this page so ill let it roll over a page before posting anything.
I sure hope we see Atlantis land at edwards! It's been some time and they could use the shuttle to home skills and all that. (Not to mention I live near Barksdale AFB and want to see the SCA with Atlantis land there so I can watch from the local park!) ;)
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Ummm mast deploy coming up in 6 hours.
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Zachstar - 11/6/2007 7:25 PM
I sure hope we see Atlantis land at edwards! It's been some time and they could use the shuttle to home skills and all that. (Not to mention I live near Barksdale AFB and want to see the SCA with Atlantis land there so I can watch from the local park!) ;)
And enjoy the nice sonic booms. I always head over to Palisades Park in Santa Monica when the shuttle lands at Edwards. The concussion from the twin booms revererates off the bluffs as it swoops in from the west.
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I vote for ME being able to hear the twin booms here in the panhandle of Florida.
And saving a million bucks to boot. :)
Selfish, I know.
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Austin - 11/6/2007 9:33 PM
Zachstar - 11/6/2007 7:25 PM
I sure hope we see Atlantis land at edwards! It's been some time and they could use the shuttle to home skills and all that. (Not to mention I live near Barksdale AFB and want to see the SCA with Atlantis land there so I can watch from the local park!) ;)
And enjoy the nice sonic booms. I always head over to Palisades Park in Santa Monica when the shuttle lands at Edwards. The concussion from the twin booms revererates off the bluffs as it swoops in from the west.
I wont hear any as Barksdale is a fueling stop for the SCA in Louisiana.
I awoke Feb 1, 2003 to sonic booms while I was living in Hemphill Texas. I NEVER want to hear them again.
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Amen, that was the only shuttle I ever saw on reentry.
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Some Images to pass the time.
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Getting close to sunset.
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Briefing coming up!
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Sunset!
View of the truss segments. With Shuttle in background.
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Ok here we go!
This briefing ought to be fun!
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More Images
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There is no value in a 10-day forecast, especially for Florida, so if Edwards really is primary already -- the weatherman is not the cause...
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Ku is here!
Here comes Crew FD Highlights!
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Next Images
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Next
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....
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Next set
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Final Set
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Final Image for the 11th
Views of the S3/S4 truss
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I was not able to watch the last couple hours of the spacewalk. Were they able to accomplish the SARJ brace beams as a get ahead? did they do any others?
Thanks!
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Great work here by the live eventers and I agree about the archiving of this as something people can go back on. Or sneak in at work and quickly go over what happened over the past few hours in a pictorial and info update blast.
Love this site. L2's on another planet with the content there, fracking amazing, and that helps break the news here and then you've got the full spread of watching the mission here and practically having a seat at the MMT on L2.
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I'll echo the above.
Mkremer mentioned something about a process being carried out in six hours (and this was mentioned a few hours ago). What is this and is it being done while the crews sleep?
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Possibly the partial deployment of the SAWs? Just heard on NASA TV they were planning on deploying one bay in about 2 hours.
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Carl G - 11/6/2007 9:23 PM
Love this site. L2's on another planet with the content there, fracking amazing, and that helps break the news here and then you've got the full spread of watching the mission here and practically having a seat at the MMT on L2.
It really is amazing isn't it? And L2 is another, well, level. The sources that this site has are top notch -- almost too good to be true. I'm convinced that "Chris Bergin" is simply an alias -- Mr. Hale, it's okay, you can reveal yourself to us now. :)
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Go given for 1 Bay Deploy.
Blanket Box unlatched.
Some sort of alarm(?) on Atlantis. Crew told that MC will monitor situation and to get back to bed.
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1 Bay Deploy of 1A array complete
... and I'm off to work!
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Who's that with the Boston Red Sox shirt on? I can't make it out.
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elmarko - 12/6/2007 3:11 AM
Who's that with the Boston Red Sox shirt on? I can't make it out.
It's Suni
(thought it was Red Wings instead of Sox at first, but then saw the "Big Papi 34" on the back)
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Launch Fan - 12/6/2007 9:46 AM
tommy - 11/6/2007 7:44 PM
NASA says two extra days and an EVA to repair blanket damage!!!
Keep up ;) http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5130 was six hours ago and it was on L2 earlier than that. This site is the first place for news.
two-days extension !
then the mission will turn to be 13+"?" ? ... Atlantis has no SSPTS, and I think the crew should reserve enough time for late inspections and at least 2nd/3rd landing opporunities.
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fdasun - 12/6/2007 11:06 AM
Launch Fan - 12/6/2007 9:46 AM
tommy - 11/6/2007 7:44 PM
NASA says two extra days and an EVA to repair blanket damage!!!
Keep up ;) http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5130 was six hours ago and it was on L2 earlier than that. This site is the first place for news.
two-days extension !
then the mission will turn to be 13+"?" ? ... Atlantis has no SSPTS, and I think the crew should reserve enough time for late inspections and at least 2nd/3rd landing opporunities.
It´s a 13+2 day Mission now. With landing on first possible Attempt! (Either KSC, EAFB, White Sands,...)
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geminy007 - 12/6/2007 6:11 PM
fdasun - 12/6/2007 11:06 AM
Launch Fan - 12/6/2007 9:46 AM
tommy - 11/6/2007 7:44 PM
NASA says two extra days and an EVA to repair blanket damage!!!
Keep up ;) http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5130 was six hours ago and it was on L2 earlier than that. This site is the first place for news.
two-days extension !
then the mission will turn to be 13+"?" ? ... Atlantis has no SSPTS, and I think the crew should reserve enough time for late inspections and at least 2nd/3rd landing opporunities.
It´s a 13+2 day Mission now. With landing on first possible Attempt! (Either KSC, EAFB, White Sands,...)
OK. Thanks geminy007.
I assumed that non-SSPTS OV-104 cannot support >13+1 flights; now I know I'm wrong.
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Is anyone having trouble connecting to the public asx feed? Cant connect :(
Edit: Never Mind, worked on the 10th attempt :)
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geminy007 - 12/6/2007 5:11 AM
It´s a 13+2 day Mission now. With landing on first possible Attempt! (Either KSC, EAFB, White Sands,...)
Not sure we'll know that until next week or unless someone asks John Shannon directly. This mission is very similar to 12A/STS-115, but there have already been differences in outcome.
fdasun - 12/6/2007 5:23 AM
OK. Thanks geminy007.
I assumed that non-SSPTS OV-104 cannot support >13+1 flights; now I know I'm wrong.
Lots of factors...for example, in this case they launched on the first attempt, which maximizes their cryo margins.
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MKremer - 12/6/2007 9:32 AM
elmarko - 12/6/2007 3:11 AM
Who's that with the Boston Red Sox shirt on? I can't make it out.
It's Suni
(thought it was Red Wings instead of Sox at first, but then saw the "Big Papi 34" on the back)
Yep, I'm a Sox fan myself so I recognised it :D
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Bump to align mission pages in order.