Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 12:34 pm
STS-117 LIVE: Launch Time: 7:38 p.m. EDT (11:38 GMT / 00:38 UK).
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5126
L2 LIVE already started (this from the "guys at the consoles" chair, with hard data as it happens and presentations, memos etc.)
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From T-9 minutes (coming out of the hold) the site will automatically change this thread into view only (bar those designated for coverage) until MECO (just 20 minutes max).
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More to come if needed.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 12:35 pm
FC/PRSD FUEL CELL ACTIVATION
1. Flow through Purge & Pulse Purge, Completed 159:07:33:00
2. FC-1 Activation, Start 159:08:22:35, Completed 159:09:01:00
3. FC-2 Activation, Start 159:09:07:00, Completed 159:09:44:00
4. FC-3 Activation, Start 159:09:47:42, Completed 159:10:26:35
All three Fuel Cells are operating nominal.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 12:40 pm
He bottle fill primary regulator adjustment required. Regulator is out of limits, it could be adjusted at the pad prior to tanking.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 12:51 pm
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Post by: Chandonn on 06/08/2007 01:00 pm
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Chandonn - 8/6/2007 9:00 AMFYI, that's usually done in the RSS rollback timeframe...it was done overnight well before pad clear...
I see the beanie cap is down. We should be ready for a go/no-go on tanking soon...
Post by: Chandonn on 06/08/2007 01:03 pm
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psloss - 8/6/2007 9:02 AMQuoteChandonn - 8/6/2007 9:00 AMFYI, that's usually done in the RSS rollback timeframe...it was done overnight well before pad clear...
I see the beanie cap is down. We should be ready for a go/no-go on tanking soon...
I should have stuck with the RSS rollback footage longer, apparently...
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 01:03 pm
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psloss - 8/6/2007 1:56 PM
Any word on the tanking meeting, Chris?
Pending, as they were going to hold back for that pad work on the He GSE. Now (and literally just now as it was from L2 Live) they've decided they are ok to proceed without pad work, ET folks will be polling.
Will update when we know. We will get note of slow fill.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 01:05 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 01:12 pm
Tanking to begin at 0900 CDT. MSBLS, O2 He OMRS waivers. (OPO must have just given it a waiver, will go after documentation)
POLL:
Go for tanking.
ET Go for tanking
RSRM Go for tanking
ORB MSBLS#3 self-test failure. no action for vehicle.
HOU network green. no issues. GO for tanking.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 01:30 pm
Post by: Chandonn on 06/08/2007 01:42 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 02:03 pm
ECO sensors will be the thing to watch here.
Post by: Chandonn on 06/08/2007 02:05 pm
Post by: DaveS on 06/08/2007 02:13 pm
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Post by: xlr82v2 on 06/08/2007 02:16 pm
Post by: kneecaps on 06/08/2007 02:22 pm
EDIT: I corrected my previous post, as my brain seemed to have failed :)
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 02:42 pm
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Felix - 8/6/2007 3:42 PM
Should have wet ECO sensors by now and should be in fast fill within the next ten minutes. Still waiting for confirmation
The test is that the ECOs go WET, but that they can command them to go DRY and then WET (capitals on purpose as that's how it reads) during SIM tests.
We're waiting for confirmation.
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 03:03 pm
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 03:10 pm
Pictures of RSS retract
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=71
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 03:20 pm
During ET-124 Debris Inspection, a 3/4" drip off of ration foam component was spotted in the Intertank Flange between the LH2 tank and intertank and 3 stringers +Z of the -Y thrust panel. No requirement for removal. Good for flight.
Post by: bsegal on 06/08/2007 03:28 pm
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bsegal - 8/6/2007 4:28 PM
ECO sensors?
Shuttle Q&A, Search function on the site, etc.etc. Much faster for your needs.
Post by: DaveS on 06/08/2007 03:32 pm
Right now at 11:32 am EDT, about half-way through.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 03:38 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 11:31 AMQuotebsegal - 8/6/2007 4:28 PM
ECO sensors?
Shuttle Q&A, Search function on the site, etc.etc. Much faster for your needs.
Understand what they are for and how they function. Was trying to find out whether they tested out ok during the tanking.
Post by: psloss on 06/08/2007 03:40 pm
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bsegal - 8/6/2007 11:38 AMWe may be in "no news is good news" territory with this.
Understand what they are for and how they function. Was trying to find out whether they tested out ok during the tanking.
Post by: DaveS on 06/08/2007 03:42 pm
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bsegal - 8/6/2007 11:38 AMQuoteChris Bergin - 8/6/2007 11:31 AMQuotebsegal - 8/6/2007 4:28 PM
ECO sensors?
Shuttle Q&A, Search function on the site, etc.etc. Much faster for your needs.
Understand what they are for and how they function. Was trying to find out whether they tested out ok during the tanking.
Common rule of thumb: with the diluge of information on this site, if you don't hear anything it's safe to assume everything is going nominally.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 03:43 pm
SIM command test not carried out yet, but will be soon.
No need to ask, we'll be noting everything that comes in.
Post by: kneecaps on 06/08/2007 03:47 pm
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AstroRJY - 8/6/2007 4:03 PM
Could someone give a good explanation of how and where the cyrogenics flow from the dewars up through the MLP and how does the fuel get inot the tank? Does it flow through the Tail Serviec Masts and into the orbiter before eventually reaching the tanks? If someone could give us a few notes, for the benefit of everyone who may be wondering or uncertain.
Pipelines on the MLP lead to the Tail Service Mast T-0 umbilicals, The LOX and LH2 enters the orbiter MPS plumbing (Aft Section) here, via the inboard/outboard fill/drain piping. From this point the LOX and LH2 head to the 17inch disconnects which then feed into the et LOX and LH2 tanks.
LOX and LH2 enter on different TSMs...I think its LOX on the left and LH2 on the right.
P.S. I wouldn't give these answers late in the count (of course), but I think a bit of tech info is helpful. (But the QA thread and various docs are better sources :)
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 03:54 pm
This was noted in the tanking teleconference (transcript on L2).
Worst case scenario is a 24 hour scrub.
Post by: psloss on 06/08/2007 03:56 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 11:43 AMIs that a procedural change -- weren't they testing those sensors much earlier in the count?
50 percent on LOX.
SIM command test not carried out yet, but will be soon.
No need to ask, we'll be noting everything that comes in.
Thanks.
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psloss - 8/6/2007 4:56 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 8/6/2007 11:43 AMIs that a procedural change -- weren't they testing those sensors much earlier in the count?
50 percent on LOX.
SIM command test not carried out yet, but will be soon.
No need to ask, we'll be noting everything that comes in.
Thanks.
I'm asking, but we have no notes of a 5 percent SIM test (I believe that was how they did it for 116). Bottom line is I'm only posting what I'm being sent (rather than assuming), but if I was to assume, they may have had an earlier SIM test, but all went well and simply wasn't noted.
That is a good case of no news (on that) being good news.
Post by: Carl G on 06/08/2007 04:01 pm
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Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 04:40 pm
Post by: DaveS on 06/08/2007 04:42 pm
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 04:42 pm
LOX/LH2 should be in stable replenish by now
Upcoming:
Pad inspection by Ice Team
Closeout Crew will prepare crew module for crew ingress
Flight crew weather briefing and suit up
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 04:46 pm
Post by: Johnny Rönnberg on 06/08/2007 04:49 pm
Post by: shuttlefan on 06/08/2007 04:59 pm
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shuttlefan - 8/6/2007 6:59 PMI don't think it's going to cause a scrub. They have a pretty good Flight Rationale to "fly-as-is" with MSBLS#3 classed as "suspect".
Is it just me, or is this MSBLS box problem starting to sound more and more like it's going to cause a scrub for today?
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 05:05 pm
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Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 05:07 pm
"Manager Leroy Cain - at the MMT - noted the two string ability even with one failure (number 3), which keeps the MLS within the LCC requirements for launch, as there is redundancy even if MLS 1 or MLS 2 fails during the mission."
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eeergo - 8/6/2007 1:07 PM
Also, in a previous article by Chris, it was noted that even a "failed"-classified MLS wouldn't delay the launch.
"Manager Leroy Cain - at the MMT - noted the two string ability even with one failure (number 3), which keeps the MLS within the LCC requirements for launch, as there is redundancy even if MLS 1 or MLS 2 fails during the mission."
Amen. Even with a "failed" MLS, flight rules provide for launch with two good. If some in the flight office don't want to launch today b/c of concern with the one MLS, I'm sure the discussion will be centered around why you have flight rules at all if you're not going to stick with them.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 05:15 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 6:07 PM
No problems reported with the ECOs during SIM checks. :)
SIM test confirmed as successful on all counts. Absolutely no issue being worked with the tank.
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 05:16 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 6:15 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 8/6/2007 6:07 PM
No problems reported with the ECOs during SIM checks. :)
SIM test confirmed as successful on all counts. Absolutely no issue being worked with the tank.
So everything looking good so far! Just another 6 hours of waiting! :)
Post by: shuttlepilot on 06/08/2007 05:21 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 05:23 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 05:26 pm
Three weather items (cumulus, anvils and thick clouds) are currently red... but they'll probably be green by launch time:
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 05:29 pm
EDIT: Felix and I posted at the same time.
Post by: EirikV on 06/08/2007 05:31 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 05:34 pm
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EirikV - 8/6/2007 10:31 AM
George Diller serving as PAO?
Affirmative.
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 05:43 pm
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Johnny Rönnberg - 8/6/2007 7:47 PMIt's nothing. Happens all the when a T-storm visits the Cape.QuoteChris Bergin - 8/6/2007 7:45 PM
KSC placed on lightning alert.
Sounds no good :(
Post by: tofarout on 06/08/2007 05:49 pm
Post by: kraisee on 06/08/2007 05:49 pm
R.
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Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 06:06 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 06:10 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 06:13 pm
About 10 presentations from the meeting now on L2.
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 06:15 pm
Post by: rdale on 06/08/2007 06:17 pm
Post by: STS-500Cmdr on 06/08/2007 06:21 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 06:22 pm
"'The MSBLS story was just presented to Steve Polous at a special OPO tagup. Steve was pleased with the efforts of all the players.
'The complete story gives confidence that we are okay to go with an assumed failed MSBLS (MLS) unit.'"
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 06:27 pm
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 06:36 pm
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 06:41 pm
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shuttlefan - 8/6/2007 7:52 PM
So has the 4pm Local Time MMT meeting been cancelled being Orbiter is go for launch with the MSBLS?
They'll still have the 4pm MMT for overview of status, but MSBLS (MLS) is no longer an issue.
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 07:07 pm
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Post by: Gekko0481 on 06/08/2007 07:32 pm
Post by: dabella on 06/08/2007 07:34 pm
cheers,
Daniel
Post by: gordo on 06/08/2007 07:35 pm
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Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 07:41 pm
T-3hours and counting
Upcoming:
Crew walkout, drive to pad and ingress
Verify TAL sites
Air-to-ground comm checks
Next build-in hold is at T-20min
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 07:41 pm
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Felix - 8/6/2007 9:41 PMThat's supposed to be TAL sites and T-20 minutes. Not T-1 h and 20 mins.
T-3hours and counting
Upcoming:
Crew walkout, drive to pad and ingress
Verify TLA sites
Air-to-ground comm checks
Next build-in hold is at T-1h 20min
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 07:43 pm
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 07:48 pm
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Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 07:48 pm
Post by: Kulfispace on 06/08/2007 07:48 pm
Refreshing 2-3 time an hour for updates.
Could anyone provide me an overview of the launch sequence activities (major milestones) of the astronauts between T-0 seconds and T+8 Minutes? I am aware of some instances (ie swinging of STS system secs before lift-off, reason for roll manevour, ET and SRB seperation, etc etc) but some extra reference material would be available to discuss with media up here in Toronto. Please PM me if you have something that could come in handy. Thanks in advance!
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 07:48 pm
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 07:49 pm
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 07:52 pm
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Post by: shuttlefan on 06/08/2007 07:53 pm
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 07:53 pm
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 07:53 pm
Count resumed at T-3 hours: 3:42 PM
Crew walkout: 3:48 PM
COnvoy departs for pad: 3:49 PM
Arrival at base of tower: 4:04 PM on the nose
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AstroRJY - 8/6/2007 8:53 PM
One wonders why they got a rookie astronaut who hasn't flown before to talk to George Diller on TV about what it feels like at MECO, sounds like and what the mood in the Astrovan is like...he hasn't gone up yet! It's a 15-minute ride to the pad, not 30. Took 17 minutes drive the last 4 flights from O &C building to 39B; and 39A is a minute or two closer.
I was gonna say, 30 is ages!
Post by: sbt on 06/08/2007 07:56 pm
Rick
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Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 08:00 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 08:01 pm
Totally incorrect. Pad A for all flights. LON for STS-125 will sit on Pad B, that's it.
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 08:04 pm
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Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 08:08 pm
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 08:08 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 4:01 PM
What on earth is Diller taking about "Pad A is of preference, one or two more flights from Pad B"
Totally incorrect. Pad A for all flights. LON for STS-125 will sit on Pad B, that's it.
Yeah I thought STS-116 on Decemeber was to be the final STS launch form 39B so they can start reconfiguring it for the Ares vehicles and send the rest of the shuttle missions from 39A.
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 08:08 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 2:01 PM
What on earth is Diller taking about "Pad A is of preference, one or two more flights from Pad B"
Totally incorrect. Pad A for all flights. LON for STS-125 will sit on Pad B, that's it.
Let's hope that's it. Looking forward to a flight today, but a rollback from bad B when the time comes. Can't remember a time I was looking forward to a rollback, but that will be the one for sure.
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 08:12 pm
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 3:28 PM
First blip of the T-3 hour and counting stage. LO2 ECO #2 switched to dry for a second, then switched back. It's being watched.
If this had happened during launch could it have been enough to shut down the SSME?
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 08:31 pm
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Zachstar - 8/6/2007 9:30 PMQuoteChris Bergin - 8/6/2007 3:28 PM
First blip of the T-3 hour and counting stage. LO2 ECO #2 switched to dry for a second, then switched back. It's being watched.
If this had happened during launch could it have been enough to shut down the SSME?
No...the first sensor to indicate dry is disgarded.
Post by: gordo on 06/08/2007 08:33 pm
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gordo - 8/6/2007 4:33 PM
The PAO comms are really great today, the Astronaut rep is giving a great insight. Nice to hear him putting some names to the closeout crew, who of course take a great risk too next to a fully fuelled vehicle.
Agreed. Without every person on the many teams that makes missions like these and spaceflight in general a success, its great to see them get some recognition too :o). There are thousands of people and their efforts behind every Astronaut that goes up - this is just the start of the journey!
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 08:42 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 08:58 pm
It's at MER Manager level. No word since two reports via L2. Will post any updates.
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 08:59 pm
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steve_slitheen - 8/6/2007 10:07 PM
So what do the closeout crew stand on when they climb around to strap the crew in? Are there special platforms that are removed or are they clambering around on the back wall of the flight deck?
Removable boards over equipment
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 09:11 pm
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 06/08/2007 09:14 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 09:23 pm
Back down to NO issues in work.
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 09:23 pm
Post by: spaceamillion on 06/08/2007 09:28 pm
This week is an excellent chance to see the ISS and shuttle over Britain and Europe.
See the pages at Heavens-above.com
The ISS just made a bright pass at 38 degrees
Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 09:33 pm
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Post by: Johnny Rönnberg on 06/08/2007 09:41 pm
E/ One sec. to late again ;).
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 09:53 pm
Mark Polansky and Steve Lindsay are piloting this STA.
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spaceamillion - 8/6/2007 10:28 PM
FWIW
This week is an excellent chance to see the ISS and shuttle over Britain and Europe.
See the pages at Heavens-above.com
The ISS just made a bright pass at 38 degrees
Yes seen it too, brightest pass I've ever seen.
I believe over here in Europe we should see Atlantic playing catch up shortly after launch for a few minutes
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 09:54 pm
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Gekko0481 - 8/6/2007 10:52 PM
Um, this may seem like a stupid question, but why exactly do the VAB doors need to be closed at launch? It said safety but didnt go any deeper.
The force from the blast of a Pad contingency could do a lot of damage to open doors, and damage whats inside. The LCC has blast panels that can close very quickly if required
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Ford Mustang - 8/6/2007 6:00 PMFrom a weather standpoint only...
Very little chance of getting a scrub tonight, although the weather manager does not want to go 0% chance of scrub, but it's close to it.
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Yes seen it too, brightest pass I've ever seen.
I believe over here in Europe we should see Atlantic playing catch up shortly after launch for a few minutes
No, I have to dissapoint you, we won't see it!
Read more here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7916&start=616&posts=622
(most upper post)
Post by: William Graham on 06/08/2007 10:07 pm
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Sandro - 8/6/2007 11:02 PM
No, I have to dissapoint you, we won't see it!
Read more here:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7916&start=616&posts=622
(most upper post)
According to Heavens Above, the ISS will be making two passes, one either side of launch, both with a negative magnitude, so assuming the Shuttle's on the same orbit, we'll have to wait and see.
Post by: Svetoslav on 06/08/2007 10:07 pm
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Svetoslav - 8/6/2007 11:07 PM
what was that "master allarm" supposed to mean?
I think its just warning about a pressure change. They said to expect it.
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According to Heavens Above, the ISS will be making two passes, one either side of launch, both with a negative magnitude, so assuming the Shuttle's on the same orbit, we'll have to wait and see.
Shuttle flies much lower! --> Shadow entry much earlier :-(
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Svetoslav - 8/6/2007 6:07 PMPart of the crew module leak check...
what was that "master allarm" supposed to mean?
OTC just gave a go to begin closing out the white room.
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Sandro - 8/6/2007 5:09 PMQuoteAccording to Heavens Above, the ISS will be making two passes, one either side of launch, both with a negative magnitude, so assuming the Shuttle's on the same orbit, we'll have to wait and see.Shuttle flies much lower! --> Shadow entry much earlier :-(
To quote Heavens Above :
Space Shuttle Mission STS-117
Atlantis is scheduled to launch at 23:38 UTC to the ISS. We will be posting
predictions once Atlantis is in orbit. Unfortunately, this time there will be no
opportunity to see the Shuttle and the external tank from Europe just after launch.
Atlantis will enter shadow just as it rises above the horizon as seen from British Isles.
Post by: gordo on 06/08/2007 10:12 pm
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Skinny - 8/6/2007 11:10 PMQuoteSandro - 8/6/2007 5:09 PMQuoteAccording to Heavens Above, the ISS will be making two passes, one either side of launch, both with a negative magnitude, so assuming the Shuttle's on the same orbit, we'll have to wait and see.Shuttle flies much lower! --> Shadow entry much earlier :-(
To quote Heavens Above :
Space Shuttle Mission STS-117
Atlantis is scheduled to launch at 23:38 UTC to the ISS. We will be posting
predictions once Atlantis is in orbit. Unfortunately, this time there will be no
opportunity to see the Shuttle and the external tank from Europe just after launch.
Atlantis will enter shadow just as it rises above the horizon as seen from British Isles.
Maybe we should ask them to launch at the start of the window....or hope for a scrub for tomorrow night!
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GW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:22 AMAlready done. They do that at L-4 days.
When do they pressurise the COPVs? I was reading that there were concerns over pressurising them past 80% due to aging.
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DaveS - 8/6/2007 11:23 PMQuoteGW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:22 AMAlready done. They do that at L-4 days.
When do they pressurise the COPVs? I was reading that there were concerns over pressurising them past 80% due to aging.
Is that to full, or 80%?
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GW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:27 AMFully pressurized. They do it in two stages, first to 80%, then to 100%.QuoteDaveS - 8/6/2007 11:23 PMQuoteGW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:22 AMAlready done. They do that at L-4 days.
When do they pressurise the COPVs? I was reading that there were concerns over pressurising them past 80% due to aging.
Is that to full, or 80%?
Post by: psloss on 06/08/2007 10:30 pm
Window open: 23:38:04 GMT (preferred T-0)
Window close: 23:41:22 GMT
LOX drainback hold time is 2 minutes, 8 seconds, based on performance. (Will be updated in hold at T-9 minutes.)
As also noted earlier, no COLAs today.
Post by: kneecaps on 06/08/2007 10:31 pm
Altimeter - 30.04
Press to ATO (104) 16000
I missed one here (I think SE OPS 3)
SE Press (104) 18100
Thrust Bucket
.96M Pc 72%
1.12M Pc 104%
Nominal Oms 2 HT
PW 1 - 91.2
PW 2 - N/A
No Comm OMS-2 HP
PW 1 - 85
PW 2 - NA
POST OMS ASSIST NOMINAL
OMS/SIDE 67%
DUMP TIME 2:50
MAX RATES (1st Stage)
Roll 1 Deg sec at 50
Pitch 1 Deg sec at 70
Yaw < 1 Deg sec
Trajectory Lofting - None
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GW_Simulations - 8/6/2007 6:32 PMShort for collision avoidance.
What's a COLA?
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GW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:32 AMCOLlision Avoidance period. Period when the trajectory takes the launching vehicle too close to another orbiting object.
What's a COLA?
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eeergo - 8/6/2007 11:35 PM
White room crew performing the last operations in this area, to clear the pad.
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GW_Simulations - 8/6/2007 6:35 PMI think this is "no news is good news" today -- not a lot of discussion. The latest SMG forecast was a while ago (posted over in the weather thread).
Any news on TAL sites?
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/countdown101.html
Svetoslav ^^
Just went RED for TAL.
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/08/2007 10:50 pm
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psloss - 8/6/2007 11:48 PM
Showers in Zaragoza and fog at Istres, currently TAL weather red.
Why can't they use Moron?
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GW_Simulations - 9/6/2007 12:52 AMRunway maintenance. Not to be completed until the 15th.Quotepsloss - 8/6/2007 11:48 PM
Showers in Zaragoza and fog at Istres, currently TAL weather red.
Why can't they use Moron?
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kneecaps - 8/6/2007 7:02 PM128 seconds.
What was the drainback time?
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Post by: triddirt on 06/08/2007 11:11 pm
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:26 pm
Mike with "God Speed Atlantis".
Mike "You're clear to launch Atlantis".
Post by: psloss on 06/08/2007 11:27 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:28 pm
No constraints, coming out of T-9 minutes and holding. Dawn is setting in. Istres go, Zaragoza maybe go at the time it'd be needed.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:29 pm
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Tyvek covers all show they are in place and good.
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:30 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:31 pm
"It's our time to fly." - Atlantis.
Post by: Skinny on 06/08/2007 11:31 pm
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:31 pm
Orbiter access arm retract.
Post by: Skinny on 06/08/2007 11:32 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:32 pm
Waiting for APU pre-start.
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APU Start Successful.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:35 pm
T-4 minutes.
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:35 pm
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:35 pm
Steering checks of all three SSMEs successful.
Post by: Skinny on 06/08/2007 11:35 pm
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Upcoming GOX arm retract.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:36 pm
LH2 pressurization going well.
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Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:38 pm
All go for launch.
GOD SPEED ATLANTIS.
Auto Sequence Start
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/08/2007 11:38 pm
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1 mile high, heading to max area of dynamic pressure.
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4 miles altitude.
GO at throttle up.
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T+2 minutes.
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All nominal. 3,700 miles per hour. Looks very clean. OMS' firing to assist.
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All three SSMEs good.
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:42 pm
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Very smooth. No chatter at all on the loops.
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Over half way through ascent.
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Single engine press.
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Post by: Lee Jay on 06/08/2007 11:47 pm
Beautiful launch, and great coverage. Thank you NSF, and all update folks!
Post by: psloss on 06/08/2007 11:47 pm
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Good ET Sep.
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Chris Bergin - 9/6/2007 12:48 AM
OMS 1 not required. Perfect launch.
OMS1 is a myth!
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triddirt - 8/6/2007 7:49 PMBut a picture is worth a thousand words, as they say, and I think they'll find 15 seconds to show a little bit of that launch.
Wow they made it look easy... Probably won't even make the evening news :)
Post by: eeergo on 06/08/2007 11:50 pm
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Post by: Ford Mustang on 06/08/2007 11:51 pm
Nothing was on the loops.. Nothing went wrong.. Nice job.
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Post by: JWag on 06/08/2007 11:52 pm
DAMN that was smooth. An amazing monument to the dedication of thousands of people.
Thanks to this place, I have a slightly better appreciation for the effort required to pull this off, and my hat's off to the truly professional people involved. It's inspiring.
Post by: ApolloLee on 06/08/2007 11:52 pm
Brilliant job.
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Brilliant job.
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From another forum:
Did he just say "Covering up the anomoly on 103?"
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Post by: simcosmos on 06/08/2007 11:56 pm
António
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psloss - 9/6/2007 1:51 AM
There goes the NTD's tie!
Is it normal practice to cut the NTD's tie after each launch?
Great launch, by the way. The best I've seen so far!
Post by: Felix on 06/08/2007 11:58 pm
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http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/174654main_asc_117_f_1.pdf
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kimmern123 - 9/6/2007 12:58 AMQuotepsloss - 9/6/2007 1:51 AM
There goes the NTD's tie!
Is it normal practice to cut the NTD's tie after each launch?
Great launch, by the way. The best I've seen so far!
Yes.
Atlantis has some post ascent issues, mainly data (bits) and such. Nothing serious and you can forgive her a few issues after that wonderful launch.
Would also like to note that I'm greatful for your patience with this update thread. We've learned from previous launches that we need to keep it tidy and on track for the benefit of all.
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kimmern123 - 9/6/2007 1:58 AMNo. It was Steve Payne's first launch and it is tradition to cut the the NTD's tie after MECO as welcome ceremony.Quotepsloss - 9/6/2007 1:51 AM
There goes the NTD's tie!
Is it normal practice to cut the NTD's tie after each launch?
!
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kimmern123 - 8/6/2007 7:58 PMNot completely sure, but the way that PAO explained it, it sounds like this was Steve Payne's first launch shift as NTD.Quotepsloss - 9/6/2007 1:51 AM
There goes the NTD's tie!
Is it normal practice to cut the NTD's tie after each launch?
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Ankle-bone12 - 8/6/2007 7:00 PM
so will there be a mission thread starting tomorrow?
(hint - take a look at previous mission daily threads :) )
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Post by: MikeM. on 06/09/2007 12:06 am
Go Atlantis!
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Great launch!
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 7:00 PM
Would also like to note that I'm greatful for your patience with this update thread. We've learned from previous launches that we need to keep it tidy and on track for the benefit of all.
I thought it worked very well. Great job by all.
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Gekko0481 - 9/6/2007 2:08 AMPlasma.
Can anyone explain the orange flares shown in this image (amongst others) just above the orbiter?
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Great launch!
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MikeM. - 9/6/2007 2:06 AMI agree. It's most beautiful launch ever!
Best looking launch I've seen. Great job Chris and crew here for keeping us all up to date.
Go Atlantis!
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Gekko0481 - 9/6/2007 2:08 AM Can anyone explain the orange flares shown in this image (amongst others) just above the orbiter? Link Great launch!
I think they're shock plasma waves formed by the rapid expansion of the SSMEs exhaust gases in the near-vacuum just before MECO. However, I don't really know the mechanism that forms the apparently circular shock wave.
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Gekko0481 - 8/6/2007 7:08 PMEdges of the main engine exhaust - in the upper atmosphere there's so little pressure the exhaust spreads way, way out compared to the narrow exhaust seen at sea level.
Can anyone explain the orange flares shown in this image (amongst others) just above the orbiter?
Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 12:12 am
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Post by: Skinny on 06/09/2007 12:14 am
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8282&posts=1&mid=145147#M145147
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Post by: kraisee on 06/09/2007 12:17 am
Glad to see everything seems to have gone according to plan according to this thread.
Go Atlantis!
Ross.
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eeergo - 8/6/2007 8:14 PMSeen on several other launches and yeah, that would probably be nice to see from OTV 060 (for example).
From the LC-41 roof camera, it's the first time I see the supersonic transient of the SRBs exhaust at ignition. If you look closely, you'll note a condensaton cloud as the ones seen on the orbiter. Probably there's more videos that show it, but i'd never seen it so clearly.
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Lee Jay - 9/6/2007 1:18 AM
Did anyone catch any foam loss? I didn't see a thing!
We're looking back on the super hi res video that's going on L2. Apparently 10 seconds after SRB sep. Twice and small.
Don't think there's anything to worry about as I certainly didn't see it on first view.
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Lee Jay - 8/6/2007 8:18 PMI saw something live on the ET camera, after the two-engine TAL call -- it looked like the losses seen on the STS-121 ET camera video to me (very slight).
Did anyone catch any foam loss? I didn't see a thing!
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psloss - 9/6/2007 2:17 AMQuoteeeergo - 8/6/2007 8:14 PMSeen on several other launches and yeah, that would probably be nice to see from OTV 060 (for example).
From the LC-41 roof camera, it's the first time I see the supersonic transient of the SRBs exhaust at ignition. If you look closely, you'll note a condensaton cloud as the ones seen on the orbiter. Probably there's more videos that show it, but i'd never seen it so clearly.
Does anyone have a picture of it? Love the shot, can find one.
Thanks!
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DaveS - 8/6/2007 7:09 PMWatching the ET camera video again, I did see quite a bit of green plasma flashing around the tail area itself, as opposed to the mainly orange glow of the engine plume edge.QuoteGekko0481 - 9/6/2007 2:08 AMPlasma.
Can anyone explain the orange flares shown in this image (amongst others) just above the orbiter?
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Great launch!
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Davejfb - 8/6/2007 8:21 PMHad my back to the TV during a lot of the replays, but it may have shown up on the east camera site (TV-7A, I think) view, too.
Does anyone have a picture of it? Love the shot, can find one.
Thanks!
Can't post anything until later, but I'll try to come up with a screen grab -- unless someone here beats me to one.
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mike robel - 8/6/2007 8:25 PMThanks for posting those, Mike.
Liftoff of Atlantis and Roll Program from my usual spot along the Bannana River, about 20 miles south of the pad. A thunderous roar brought the crowd to life. Awesome launch.
Post by: Felix on 06/09/2007 12:33 am
Ascent Checklist complete
Now working through the Post Insertion Checklist http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/pdf/174664main_pi_117_f_2.pdf
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Cheers, Sam
Post by: Felix on 06/09/2007 12:51 am
Post Launch News Conference
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psloss - 9/6/2007 3:13 AM Yikes, the air really came out of that press conference quickly. An L2-style technical briefing would have been better.
"no news is good news" ;)
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Lee Jay - 9/6/2007 2:16 AM
Since the press usually want to talk about anomalies, I love it when they're speechless!
No bird poo to entertain them this time :)
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Post by: AstroRJY on 06/09/2007 01:28 am
They haven't yet aired the runway cameras, TV-2 and TV-11, the DOAMS trackers, or any of the other pad cameras. I don't know why, they had another good half hour of air time before the post-launch news conference. Sometime they'll wait and air those others right after the news confernece, but ...so far, not yet.
There's also another series of ET engineering trackers, 6 or 7 of them, that are aired about 6 hours after lift-off. Look for those around 2 a.m.
Then the WB-57 chase plane tapes will be aired in another day or two and the SRB cameras should be recovered and played 2 or 3 days after launch.
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AstroRJY - 8/6/2007 9:28 PMAre they still using the WB-57 for launch video? (Don't recall seeing any video for STS-116.)
Then the WB-57 chase plane tapes will be aired in another day or two and the SRB cameras should be recovered and played 2 or 3 days after launch.
The SRB cameras may be interesting with the different lighting...we probably won't see them until FD 5 or 6.
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psloss - 8/6/2007 9:33 PMQuoteAstroRJY - 8/6/2007 9:28 PMAre they still using the WB-57 for launch video? (Don't recall seeing any video for STS-116.)
Then the WB-57 chase plane tapes will be aired in another day or two and the SRB cameras should be recovered and played 2 or 3 days after launch.
The SRB cameras may be interesting with the different lighting...we probably won't see them until FD 5 or 6.
Good question... I recall them saying at a press conference a couple days before before STS-116 even though it was at night, Wayne Hale said "we're still going to fly the WB-57" but I never saw those tapes either. I don't know if they flew tonight or not, maybe they only did it as an "as needed" Return-to-Flight item and are satisfied it's not essential footage now? Don't know.
Post by: James (Lockheed) on 06/09/2007 01:53 am
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Ford Mustang - 8/6/2007 8:44 PM
Would anyone happen to have any PLB door opening videos? Just wondering.
There is no KU until after they are opened, so no video would have been live.
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Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 01:58 am
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AstroRJY - 8/6/2007 9:48 PMThere was at least one article here about possibly canceling WAVE, but I don't recall what the result of that was:
I don't know if they flew tonight or not, maybe they only did it as an "as needed" Return-to-Flight item and are satisfied it's not essential footage now? Don't know.
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=4993
Post by: SpaceCat on 06/09/2007 02:04 am
Guess what little upper level winds there were, was blowing them south. Wish I'd had an apporpriate camera handy for a shot- they were very wispy and dispersed, but you could still make out a big distorted "Y" from SRB sep. Illuminated by set sun- beautiful!
Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 02:07 am
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Ford Mustang - 8/6/2007 9:55 PMHard to do without Ku unless there's a ground station nearby, even before STS-107; it's possible since RTF that post-insertion procedures have changed to make it even less likely.
I know there's no KU, but I've seen it before, James. I was just wondering if they downlinked anything, and if so, if anyone had a copy.
Post by: MySDCUserID on 06/09/2007 02:07 am
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SpaceCat - 8/6/2007 10:04 PM
Interesting- from approx. 100 miles downrange, the contrail clouds were still quite visible at 8:48- one hour and ten minutes after launch!
Guess what little upper level winds there were, was blowing them south. Wish I'd had an apporpriate camera handy for a shot- they were very wispy and dispersed, but you could still make out a big distorted "Y" from SRB sep. Illuminated by set sun- beautiful!
There is a great picture of it here:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=A9&Dato=20070608&Kategori=NEWS02&Lopenr=608010&Ref=PH
Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 02:09 am
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SpaceCat - 8/6/2007 10:04 PMEvery once in a while we'd get that sunset effect in the LA area after a Vandenberg rocket launch...
Interesting- from approx. 100 miles downrange, the contrail clouds were still quite visible at 8:48- one hour and ten minutes after launch!
Guess what little upper level winds there were, was blowing them south. Wish I'd had an apporpriate camera handy for a shot- they were very wispy and dispersed, but you could still make out a big distorted "Y" from SRB sep. Illuminated by set sun- beautiful!
The KSC MMedia Gallery posted a couple of shots from today's launch:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/09/2007 02:10 am
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Post by: rdale on 06/09/2007 02:43 am
Flight plan is available at http://www.nasa.gov/centers/johnson/news/flightdatafiles/index.html
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 02:46 am
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bsegal - 9/6/2007 3:41 AM
anyone have links to the FD1 and FD2 (rendezvous) flight plans?
And while you've brought that up, we'll be having live threads for each Flight Day. FD2 will be opened tomorrow morning.
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Justin Wheat - 8/6/2007 11:03 PM
will they be playing the MCC replay of the launch at 11:30 p.m?
The latest TV schedule is ALWAYS available for you - http://www.nasa.gov/ntv
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 03:51 am
Post by: jmjawors on 06/09/2007 03:53 am
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Zachstar - 8/6/2007 10:51 PM
Seems like a major bit of the blanket sticking up from one of the OMS pods. This dosen't sound good at all!
Indeed there is... but that's a pretty quick assessment on your part. Let's get some photos and let the flight teams give us an expert opinion. No reason to instantly be negative.
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 03:55 am
I did no "assessment" and thank you not to assume such.
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Post by: Speedracer on 06/09/2007 04:03 am
The object would have been at 11:59 ET. Web video is about 25 seconds behind live TV.
It moved from 12 o'clock to 3 o'clock (top to right)
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Post by: hornet on 06/09/2007 04:11 am
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 04:14 am
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hornet - 9/6/2007 5:11 AM
How critical is this i assume very but i dont know that much about these blankets
Impossible to say at this stage.
Post by: lsullivan411 on 06/09/2007 04:27 am
Post by: Flightstar on 06/09/2007 04:29 am
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lsullivan411 - 8/6/2007 11:27 PM
I know there are repair techniques for RCC repair, if it gets that far are there any already in place for the blankets?
They'd have to improvise if called for. The limited repair ability they have is almost all focused on leading edge RCC and tile.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 04:39 am
1) MLS issue
2) ECO issue
3) BITE issue (finding out what that's about).
4) The OMS Pod TPS.
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 04:42 am
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Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 04:52 am
Anyone else see it? I could not get a snap (I'm too slow :( )
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Zachstar - 8/6/2007 11:52 PM
My eyes mustive been playing trick on me but I thought I saw the ET vent somthing then start to tumble?
Anyone else see it? I could not get a snap (I'm too slow :( )
That's what it does. It eases out some of the pressure its built up. Call it a purge during its death plunge.
Post by: astrobrian on 06/09/2007 05:06 am
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John44 - 9/6/2007 6:21 AM
STS-117 - Protruding blanket seen on OMS pod
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2421&Itemid=1
STS-117 - CREW HANDHELD VIDEO OF EXTERNAL TANK SEPARATION
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2423&Itemid=1
Post by: John44 on 06/09/2007 05:26 am
STS-117 - CREW HANDHELD VIDEO OF EXTERNAL TANK SEPARATION
STS-117 - Protruding blanket seen on OMS pod
STS-117 - LAUNCH REPLAYS
STS-117 - ASCENT FLIGHT CONTROL TEAM VIDEO REPLAY
STS-117 - POST LAUNCH NEWS CONFERENCE
STS-117 - LAUNCH
STS-117 - launch activities - part 2 - June 8
STS-117 - launch activities - part 1 - June 8
STS-117 - Countdown Begins
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6651&start=16&posts=24
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=1&id=1&Itemid=2
Post by: AstroRJY on 06/09/2007 05:30 am
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 05:32 am
Here is a nice image.
EDIT: Added Image 2: Image of the repair spots on the tank in this image from a video a few seconds before launch.
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 05:45 am
Tho something went wrong and they lost the first 20 sec or so :(
Post by: UprightCitizen on 06/09/2007 05:47 am
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 05:49 am
They will soon go to sleep.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 05:49 am
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UprightCitizen - 9/6/2007 6:47 AM
Does anyone have any more screencaps from their video?
The video itself should be on here soon via John 44 - he tapes literally everything.
Welcome to the site.
Post by: Austin on 06/09/2007 05:49 am
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 05:50 am
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Austin - 9/6/2007 6:49 AM
Did we ever find out the source of the banter inside of T-31 just prior to launch?
If there was an issue, L2 will get it in the report presentations that round up everything (will be a morning report most likely). Will note it here of course.
Post by: UprightCitizen on 06/09/2007 05:51 am
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 10:49 PMQuoteUprightCitizen - 9/6/2007 6:47 AM
Does anyone have any more screencaps from their video?
The video itself should be on here soon via John 44 - he tapes literally everything.
Welcome to the site.
Sounds good. Thank you very much for the welcome, I'm excited to have found this!
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Chris Bergin - 8/6/2007 10:50 PMQuoteAustin - 9/6/2007 6:49 AM
Did we ever find out the source of the banter inside of T-31 just prior to launch?
If there was an issue, L2 will get it in the report presentations that round up everything (will be a morning report most likely). Will note it here of course.
Gracias.
Post by: Chris Bergin on 06/09/2007 06:27 am
Leaving this one open until we start the FD2 thread.
Good work everyone! :)
Post by: Space101 on 06/09/2007 06:49 am
Houston trying to help, but they said they'll go ahead and eat anyway if not (with their hands)? :P
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Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 07:00 am
Hey just a follow up to my earlier note about the interest of this Orbit ISS is in.
Take a look at this. Its an Orbitron view of the ISS Orbit with red showing the limited amount of time they spend in darkness. REALLY short stuff! Lots of nice sunshine for earth views!
![]("http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/7374/sts117orbitnote3rf0.png")
Post by: Ankle-bone12 on 06/09/2007 07:13 am
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Chris Bergin - 9/6/2007 12:49 AMQuoteUprightCitizen - 9/6/2007 6:47 AM
Does anyone have any more screencaps from their video?
The video itself should be on here soon via John 44 - he tapes literally everything.
Welcome to the site.
How soon is "soon"? Im going to bed in a little while, so I'll probably see it tomorrow. Thanks John44 for the wonderful videos. And thanks Chris and staff for the great coverage.
Ignore this or delete it because i know the answer now. thanks and good night. ;)
Post by: madmardy on 06/09/2007 08:27 am
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Zachstar - 9/6/2007 8:00 AMHey just a follow up to my earlier note about the interest of this Orbit ISS is in.
Take a look at this. Its an Orbitron view of the ISS Orbit with red showing the limited amount of time they spend in darkness.
I don't think so, I dopn't know what the red is but its not the amount of time they spend in darkness that is indicated by the change in colour on the continents
you can see some of it is lighter than other parts there is no way they could only spend such a small time in darkness
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 08:51 am
Now they are just playing with it. Here is a fuzzy view of the moon from Orbit. (The sun recently set for its short time)
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Naraht - 9/6/2007 10:56 AM
I suspect I'm just looking in the wrong place for this information, but... does anyone know when the shift changeover at Mission Control is, and which team is on duty now?
shift change was at 2007:160:08:02:32
Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 10:08 am
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AstroRJY - 9/6/2007 1:30 AMFYI, that's normal -- the schedule is always pre-empted by operational and other requirements. If you're recording, I would recommend planning for it that way.
OKeydoke so they just started running some of the other launch replays...at 1:26 a.m... just all of a sudden out of the blue, no notice, one moment they were showing the MCC MOCR and all of a sudden they started the replays with no comment...what the heck? Glad to ahve them anyway, a few hours late.
Post by: Gekko0481 on 06/09/2007 10:09 am
Another note, does anyone have any ideas as to how serious this blanket COULD potentially be? Given that its a blanket I would assume its less of an issue than if it were tile?
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astrobrian - 9/6/2007 1:06 AMThe equipment used was probably the best, but the sun angles weren't that favorable. There is ET video from many other missions...I've only seen excerpts, but this doesn't strike me as unique.
Best ET video I think I have ever seen
Same goes for the fantastic video we've seen so far on this mission...it's very high quality, there are more angles, but it's very arguable (and very subjective) about which launch video from which mission is best.
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psloss - 9/6/2007 6:08 AMJust now plowing through the overnight video and FWIW, they did post a graphic at the bottom of the screen before the engineering replays. (Actually, they got well into them, stopped for some video of the crew on the flight deck, and then went back and replayed the set "from the top.")QuoteAstroRJY - 9/6/2007 1:30 AMFYI, that's normal -- the schedule is always pre-empted by operational and other requirements. If you're recording, I would recommend planning for it that way.
OKeydoke so they just started running some of the other launch replays...at 1:26 a.m... just all of a sudden out of the blue, no notice, one moment they were showing the MCC MOCR and all of a sudden they started the replays with no comment...what the heck? Glad to ahve them anyway, a few hours late.
A "fuller" set of OTV cameras than most of the RTF launches, but I guess we had to give up something to get those -- they didn't show any of the trackers; given the cuts from the Playalinda tracker during the live coverage, I was interested in a discrete replay of that view (ET-207).
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psloss - 9/6/2007 6:12 AMY'know, I just realized that... none of the usual hi-def tracker cam videos. :bleh:
-- they didn't show any of the trackers;
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Davejfb - 8/6/2007 8:21 PMOK, getting back to this now...attached a few frames from the replay...I spot checked other replays and I thought this angle had the clearest view of that.Quotepsloss - 9/6/2007 2:17 AMQuoteeeergo - 8/6/2007 8:14 PMSeen on several other launches and yeah, that would probably be nice to see from OTV 060 (for example).
From the LC-41 roof camera, it's the first time I see the supersonic transient of the SRBs exhaust at ignition. If you look closely, you'll note a condensaton cloud as the ones seen on the orbiter. Probably there's more videos that show it, but i'd never seen it so clearly.
Does anyone have a picture of it? Love the shot, can find one.
Thanks!
Post by: psloss on 06/09/2007 11:42 am
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 11:45 am
The first shows the cam that took the shot of the trouble zone.
Post by: MKremer on 06/09/2007 12:04 pm
Yes, it might disrupt airflow/heating, but heat flow through to the underlying aluminum skin is what's important, and I believe we'll see the research/test data will clear that with no problems.
(And, yes, I could be totally wrong, but I don't think so based on earlier reentry successes.)
Post by: madmardy on 06/09/2007 12:08 pm
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Zachstar - 9/6/2007 9:51 AMAbout 30- 40 mins of darkness
(The sun recently set for its short time)
here is a sample pic showing day and night
the tracking site itself seems to be down do i just grabbed this sample image
(http://www.nest-films/images/track.gif)
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 12:12 pm
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madmardy - 9/6/2007 7:08 AMQuoteZachstar - 9/6/2007 9:51 AMAbout 30- 40 mins of darkness
(The sun recently set for its short time)
Wrong it was actually 25. Will you just get ORBITER/Orbitron and prove it to yourself?
Post by: madmardy on 06/09/2007 12:14 pm
about 5 mins
Post by: Zachstar on 06/09/2007 12:18 pm
The Animated GIF in the other topic was seriously time compressed you know? But yes in the ALT ISS is in it has an even shorter night.
Lets just say 25-30 mins of night per orbit for now and be done with it.
Try it in ORBITER its quite interesting!
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