FransonUK - 7/4/2005 1:55 PM
I think we could do with hearing more from NASA on Atlantis given the relevance to STS-114
FransonUK - 23/6/2005 11:49 AM
Great pictures.
FransonUK - 23/6/2005 11:49 AM
Is that the place in the cargo bay where they leave the shuttle and go into the ISS?
anik - 23/6/2005 1:22 PM
Orbital Docking System
Space101 - 26/6/2005 2:01 PMThe first photo below: "Astronaut Ellen Ochoa floats through the tunnel that connected the STS-96 crew to the International Space Station (ISS)"
Seems like such a small hole!
Chris Bergin - 2/8/2005 6:37 AM
Sidenote from Wayne Hale last night noted that Atlantis is not stood down from flow operations and there's "no reason to" at this time.
Tahii - 3/9/2005 7:23 PM
Thats the one. Seeing as Atlantis was stacked, when do they get tiled over?
Flightstar - 6/9/2005 9:24 AMQuoteTahii - 3/9/2005 7:23 PM
Thats the one. Seeing as Atlantis was stacked, when do they get tiled over?
Tiled over?
norm103 - 6/9/2005 12:30 PM
she is back in the OPF
and it been taking a compel of tires
Avron - 6/9/2005 9:34 AMQuoteFlightstar - 6/9/2005 9:24 AMQuoteTahii - 3/9/2005 7:23 PM
Thats the one. Seeing as Atlantis was stacked, when do they get tiled over?
Tiled over?
Think that means when do the service pannels get closed?
norm103 - 6/9/2005 10:14 AM
Any one know about what time she getting rold back to day?
Flightstar - 7/9/2005 3:57 PMThanks for that, and thanks for bearing with the not-so knowledgable people here!
Ah, well it's not "tiled over" it's called "TPS close out" and that really doesn't become the case until flight. It would be a little like saying "when do you close your bathroom door".
Space101 - 8/9/2005 6:12 PM
Does the United Space Alliance have engineers set to each of the Shuttles? Must be demoralising for those working on Atlantis and Endeavour with years inbetween launches?
Shuttle Man - 13/9/2005 12:16 AM
Well yes, but that goes with the job.
A few heated discussions today with the bonding solutions on the TPS (Ref: Gap Fillers).
Shuttle Man - 13/9/2005 5:16 AM
Well yes, but that goes with the job.
A few heated discussions today with the bonding solutions on the TPS (Ref: Gap Fillers). More when I hear some more on this but we looked at Atlantis to see if there is an conformity to it.
anik - 27/9/2005 7:49 PM
Chris, this forum is named "Atlantis (STS-115 and STS-301)"... :o
I think, that STS-300 :) , not STS-301, because:
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=17808
"A CR (Change Request) is out for review which would change the launch dates. This CR will come back to the PRCB on 8 September 2005. Of interest is that this CR de-manifests STS-118. It also cancels STS-301 and replaces it with STS-300 for the LON (Launch on Need) mission set at 20 April 2006."
Rocket Ronnie - 31/10/2005 4:53 PM
A follower of Atlantis too. I managed to see a launch when in Florida and it was Atlantis on STS-112.
Terrible Twosome - 1/11/2005 11:00 AMQuoteRocket Ronnie - 31/10/2005 4:53 PM
A follower of Atlantis too. I managed to see a launch when in Florida and it was Atlantis on STS-112.
Same reason and same launch! How about that for a coincidence!
Space101 - 10/10/2005 2:31 AM
Has anyone got an image of this P3/P4?
STS Tony - 5/11/2005 5:15 AMNo, that one is the hi-speed KU band antenna. The S-Band antennas are arranged in a square around the aft crew module bulkhead. They're covered by TPS blankets.
S-Band, is that the one we saw pointing out of the side of Discovery doing STS-114's RBAR role? There's a really good picture of Discovery facing forward with this poiting out of the cargo bay if I can find it.
STS Tony - 5/11/2005 4:15 AM
S-Band, is that the one we saw pointing out of the side of Discovery doing STS-114's RBAR role? There's a really good picture of Discovery facing forward with this poiting out of the cargo bay if I can find it.
anik - 9/11/2005 5:05 AM
In the Orbiter Processing Facility Bay 1 at NASA Kennedy Space Center, a crane is attached to the remote manipulator system boom in Atlantis’ payload bay. The boom is being removed from Atlantis and will be temporarily stored. The RMS includes the electromechanical arm that maneuvers a payload from the payload bay of the orbiter to its deployment position and then releases it. It can also grapple a free-flying payload, maneuver it to the payload bay of the orbiter and berth it in the orbiter
Mark Max Q - 12/11/2005 9:01 PM
RMS removed from Atlantis and to be installed in Discovery?
Mark Max Q - 12/11/2005 9:01 PM
What is the RMS and why the swapping to another Orbiter?
Chris Bergin - 16/11/2005 6:28 AM
Actually, that was a better picture than I used. Damn. Anik's brilliant with getting superb images off NASA.gov's sites.
Do Shuttles Dream - 5/12/2005 7:06 AMLook at the May 13 schedule:
Any chance a delay to later in the year would see Atlantis go first on STS-121, like Discovery got STS-114 off Atlantis? STS-121 was Atlantis' mission orignally wasn't it?
Launch Fan - 6/12/2005 2:16 AMThere is indeed a difference in capabilities. Orbiter vehicles are constantly modified and improved, so none is exactly like the other. This also results in different vehicle masses. So if You have a heavy payload You might want to assign a lighter vehicle. OV-104 is capable of launching payloads heavier than the ULF-1.1 package.
Interesting, could you explain why it would be unwise for Atlantis to do the ULF-1.1 mission? I may have missed your point, but it sounds like there is a difference in capability between Atlantis and Discovery? I thought they were built very closely, and that makes me wonder what difference there would be?
nethegauner - 7/12/2005 8:44 AMWith all the changes made to the orbiters during the Mir and now ISS era, the performance differences are probably not quite as magnified as when Endeavour was delivered to KSC; however, Discovery is a little heavier than the other two remaining orbiters and the performance margins for the trusses with the alpha joints (P3/P4 and S3/S4) are tight, so either Atlantis or Endeavour will have to fly them. This has been noted on sci.space.* a few times over the last couple of years (usually by Jorge Frank); this post notes that (at the time) the docking altitude would need to be lower than other flights:
There is indeed a difference in capabilities. Orbiter vehicles are constantly modified and improved, so none is exactly like the other. This also results in different vehicle masses. So if You have a heavy payload You might want to assign a lighter vehicle. OV-104 is capable of launching payloads heavier than the ULF-1.1 package.
Chris Bergin - 8/12/2005 11:08 AMThanks. Some interesting threads around here.
Hey Philip, welcome to the site. :)
psloss - 8/12/2005 8:55 AM
NASAWatch.com also posted a FAWG document pack in the Oct. 2004 timeframe that has some notations on performance margins...that was with the 28-flight manifest, but I think the performance numbers were only noted for flights within the U.S. Core Complete phase.
Mark Max Q - 8/12/2005 10:20 PMI believe that the twin "3/4" trusses are the heaviest ISS launch elements, due to the solar alpha rotary joints on each. The P6 and S6 trusses (the other ones with solar arrays on them) are fixed; (the P6 being on-orbit already). The joints will allow all four array sets to track the sun more favorably (the wings themselves can also be pivoted.)
While I knew Columbia and Challenger were heavier, I didn't know about these slight differences between Discovery and Atlantis given how close in the timeline they were 'born'.
I'm wondering how much of an handicap the OMSS has on the margin of error for Atlantis? I've no idea how much that wieghs, but we aren't entering Endeavour only terrortory with some ISS elements are we? Sorry if this is a dumb question :)
DaveS - 11/12/2005 4:23 PMMaybe it should be noted that OV-099 started life as structural test article STA-099. But that does not affect the above mentioned sequence. Assembly of STA-099 started on November 21, 1975. Work on OV-101 and OV-102 started in 1974 and early 1975, if I'm not mistaken.
This is the order of which the orbiters were built:
OV-101(Enterprise)
OV-102(Columbia)
OV-099(Challenger)
OV-103(Discovery)
OV-104(Atlantis)
OV-105(Endeavour)
nethegauner - 12/12/2005 5:56 AM According to KSC's NSTS reference, OV-099's new crew module was assembled starting on January 28, 1979 ...
Wow, that is a little odd. From the beginning to the end, it took only seven years exactly. :(
Dobbins - 10/1/2006 9:32 PMhttp://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts115/index.html
FransonUK - 11/1/2006 10:51 PM
Why are they Navy? Wouldn't they be USAF? I'm confused!!
Chris Bergin - 11/1/2006 6:14 PMQuoteFransonUK - 11/1/2006 10:51 PM
Why are they Navy? Wouldn't they be USAF? I'm confused!!
The Navy has pilots too...I'm sure you've seen an aircraft carrier as one example. :)
simonbp - 11/1/2006 5:28 PM
Hehe, while the rest are Navy propheads, MacLean competed with the Canadian National Gymnastics Team from 1976 to 1977...
Simon ;)
Avron - 11/1/2006 11:04 PMQuotesimonbp - 11/1/2006 5:28 PM
Hehe, while the rest are Navy propheads, MacLean competed with the Canadian National Gymnastics Team from 1976 to 1977...
Simon ;)
With so few flights left, its interesting to see that Canadian crew members are still part of the program... I just wonder if Canada will be included in CEV program?
FransonUK - 8/3/2006 3:11 PM
Also, is everything ok since she was nearly bumped on to her nose? :o
Rob in KC - 16/3/2006 1:36 PM
How's the gap filler change-out proceeding?
Davie OPF - 16/3/2006 5:37 PMQuoteRob in KC - 16/3/2006 1:36 PM
How's the gap filler change-out proceeding?
On schedule. Not so with Endeavour, but a long time before she flies.
Davie OPF - 18/3/2006 8:34 PM
Very observent! Where did you manage to find that information?
Avron - 19/3/2006 9:41 AMQuoteDavie OPF - 18/3/2006 8:34 PM
Very observent! Where did you manage to find that information?
Davie, can you guys identify an engine by sight, I.e. they are all different is some way, or do you have to look at the serial number?
mainengine - 19/3/2006 2:28 PM
Thanks for your reply.
All I do is supposing.
I took the information out of the FRR documents of 114.
But since you are "Davie OPF" maybe you could confirm it .?!
Is it always the centre engine also?No.
DaveS - 27/3/2006 6:23 AMQuoteIs it always the centre engine also?No.
This is the order:
1:Center
2:Lower left
3:Lower right
STS Tony - 29/3/2006 3:38 AMI believe its 15, 5 complete sets(3 SSMEs for each orbiter). Anyone that can cofirm or deny this?
How many SSMEs are stored at KSC at any one time?
Preparations began today for the orbiter boom sensor system's installation into Atlantis' payload bay on Monday. The 50-foot-long boom attaches to the shuttle arm and is one of the new safety measures added prior to Return to Flight last year. It equips the orbiter with cameras and laser systems to inspect the shuttle's heat shield while in space
mainengine - 10/4/2006 3:33 PM
Yes I do. And I'm very happy about the trip. I'm looking forward to the hot fire test really.
shuttlefan - 21/4/2006 1:25 PM
I'm wondering if they now have two fully-stacked SRB sets in the VAB ( for STS-121 and STS-115/300.
anik - 25/4/2006 10:26 PM
Mark, how much spacewalks (three?) are planned in STS-115 mission and what pairs of astronauts (Tanner/Stefanyshyn-Piper or Burbank/MacLean, or Tanner/Burbank) will conduct their?...
Beforehand thanks for the answer!... :)
Rapoc - 25/4/2006 6:21 PMQuoteanik - 25/4/2006 10:26 PM
Mark, how much spacewalks (three?) are planned in STS-115 mission and what pairs of astronauts (Tanner/Stefanyshyn-Piper or Burbank/MacLean, or Tanner/Burbank) will conduct their?...
Beforehand thanks for the answer!... :)
I find some earlier documents where are four space walks are planned. Now are only three planned. Does anybody know why?
HKS - 26/4/2006 11:09 AM
Anybody here that knows when stacking of SRB's will start for Atlantis on STS-115/300?
shuttlefan - 26/4/2006 6:44 PM
Do they plan to lift the daylight launch rule for STS-115?
Wisi - 12/5/2006 10:53 PM
Is there no Status Report for this week? I couldn't find it at the NASA page...
Chris Bergin - 12/5/2006 9:38 PMIt happens on a day like today, where there's a big milestone for the next launch...wouldn't be surprised if the status report is mostly about the rollout next Friday (assuming it stays on schedule).QuoteWisi - 12/5/2006 10:53 PM
Is there no Status Report for this week? I couldn't find it at the NASA page...
They sent out the Shuttle Status report.....but only covered Discovery! Nothing on Atlantis or Endeavour.
galileo - 31/5/2006 9:14 PMIs that the decision that needs to be made -- changing out the LH2 ECOs at MAF or KSC? Or is it something else?
Either way the ECO's are still going to come out of ET-118 just like we did to 119.
shuttlefan - 1/6/2006 2:16 PMNot according to the screen capture from the camera: it's still in the transfer aisle.
So the aft-booster segment is on the MLP and being bolted down now? ;) :)
shuttlefan - 3/6/2006 2:00 AM
What's an SICB?
galileo - 3/6/2006 1:09 AM
BI-127 (RSRM 94) Stacking Update
The RAB has been secured to the MLP and all four studs have been tensioned. The LAB is in HB-3 and should be hard down on the hold down posts on the MLP by midnight tonight. The LAC segment will be transferred to the VAB on Monday and lifted and mated on 2nd shift Monday and/or 3rd shift tuesday.
ET-118
LM told program at PRCB on thursday that the tank will be complete and ready to ship Monday 6/5. However, late today MAF contacted KSC to arrange a very cryptic telecon for 9am tomorrow (sat) morning with very high level ET folks (NASA, USA, & LM) at KSC. Rumor has it they will in fact be unable to complete all the work they promised by 6/5 and a significant amount of work as well as MAF tech will be coming to the cape. As of right now, all open MAF work is expected to be completed in parallel with normal KSC ET processing activities in the HB-4 checkout cell. Also, a special SICB is being held tomorrow to discuss whether R&R'ing the ET-118 ECO's is necessary (among other topics). If flight rationale can be developed that gets us out of having to swap out the ECO's then a substantial amount of contingency days can be gained in the schedule.
As of today, only 1 day of contingency exists in the STS-115 flow. Basically what that means is every thing has to go perfectly right in order to have the vehicle completely ready for the aug 28th launch date.
shuttlefan - 3/6/2006 3:51 PM
Thanks for the translation Chris!!
Do you think we will hear anything on the results of these meetings ( telecon, etc. ) later today?
:) :) :)
The segment will be mated with the right aft booster assembly of the solid-fueled rocket, which was hoisted onto the launcher platform last week. The lift probably will take place on second shift, which begins at 3 p.m.http://www.floridatoday.com/floridatoday/blogs/spaceteam/2006/06/live-from-ksc-mission-preps-continue.html
shuttlefan - 9/6/2006 8:04 PM
Being they are going to replace the ECO sensors entirely in the vertical this time, can they even perhaps mate the tank to the SRBs and then do the ECO sensor R&R just to save a little time, or am I missing something here?
Incorrect. It's the left forward center segment. The forward skirt includes the nosecone assembly.
dutch courage - 19/6/2006 8:42 AM
PS: what's the correct spelling frustum or frustrum?
mkirk - 20/6/2006 12:17 AMQuotedutch courage - 19/6/2006 8:42 AM
PS: what's the correct spelling frustum or frustrum?
I always thought there were two Rs but looking in my Shuttle Booster Systems Handbook I see it is spelled "FRUSTUM"
Mark Kirkman
astrobrian - 22/6/2006 12:23 AMThat was at MAF, not KSC.
Wasn't the PAL ramp "patched and repaired" too??? This could prove interesting during launch.
Wisi - 21/6/2006 10:44 PM
you missed something, chris!
From STS-115 Shuttle Update:
On Monday, workers in the Vehicle Assembly Building inadvertently bumped ET-118, the STS-115 external fuel tank, with a mobile work platform, causing an indentation in the foam insulation about 3/8 of an inch deep. The damage is on the upper part of the tank just left of the centerline. The area will be fixed and thoroughly analyzed and inspected. The repair work is not expected to affect the launch-on-need support for the STS-121 mission or STS-115.
eeergo - 20/6/2006 2:01 PM
... at last some ISS hardware is being moved!
norm103 - 21/6/2006 9:50 PM
heres what ^^ is talking about
note this is the right one
Avron - 22/6/2006 6:53 AMNo black photo ID band.Quotenorm103 - 21/6/2006 9:50 PM
heres what ^^ is talking about
note this is the right one
How do you tell its the right one..?
When you are replying there is an add picture check box at the bottom of the reply box, check it and when you hit submit it will ask where to grab the file from you wish to post. There is a file size limitation so keep that in mind
Of course this is after saving the image to your system as Jim said
shuttlefan - 22/6/2006 10:19 PM
So, being the nose cone for the right booster was lifted last night and the left one tonight, that means there is now a shuttle on the pad, and ( almost ) two fully-assembled SRBs in the VAB! What an exciting time for Shuttle buffs!!! :) :) :)
shuttlefan - 23/6/2006 4:19 AM
So, being the nose cone for the right booster was lifted last night and the left one tonight, that means there is now a shuttle on the pad, and ( almost ) two fully-assembled SRBs in the VAB! What an exciting time for Shuttle buffs!!! :) :) :)
psloss - 24/6/2006 1:12 AM
Some CEIT photos have been posted:
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
shuttlefan - 24/6/2006 10:06 AM
Also, nice to see the Canadian flag on Astronaut Steve Maclean's shoulder in those Crew Equipment Interface Test photos. My fellow Canadians would agree. I am equally interested in all the flights though. :)
Rapoc - 3/7/2006 10:55 AM
Is the ET/SRB mating still on track for this week?
MarkD - 3/7/2006 9:21 PM
What are those red covers on the RMS and OBSS?
MarkD - 3/7/2006 10:21 PM
What are those red covers on the RMS and OBSS?
Spirit - 5/7/2006 1:25 AM
Who will be the 7th astronaut on board Atlantis on STS-115?
Rapoc - 3/7/2006 5:55 AMThe update from Wayne Hale at tonight's post-launch briefing is that the ET/SRB mate review is scheduled for tomorrow and the mate itself is set for Thursday.
Is the ET/SRB mating still on track for this week?
Spirit - 5/7/2006 2:18 AM
That is strange. Isn't the whole point of human space flight to launch humans in space, not empty seats?
spfrss - 5/7/2006 12:26 PM
AFAIK cargo for the mission
* Second port truss segment (ITS P3/P4)
* Second set of solar arrays and batteries
is very heavy, so saving a couple hundreds of kilograms of crewmember and his equipment could have a sense.
Mauro
Spirit - 5/7/2006 7:06 AMThe main payloads will be loaded at the pad. The last schedule I saw shows the payloads going out to the pad at the end of the month ahead of Atlantis.
Are they going to load the payload in Orbiter Processing Facility or they will do it on the launch pad?
Yesterday I checked STS-115 mission web page on www.nasa.gov and there was no info regarding the mission, except for the six crew members :(
Spirit - 5/7/2006 3:18 AM
That is strange. Isn't the whole point of human space flight to launch humans in space, not empty seats?
jewillia - 6/7/2006 3:00 AM
I believe John Shannon said in the briefing tonight that Wayne Hale chaired a meeting for go/no go for SRB/ET mating today. Wayne gave the go to proceed.
DaveS - 7/7/2006 3:04 PMI take it that's a yes? :)
NASA TV is now showing a video file of ET-118 being mated to the SRBs that will be used on STS-115.
Avron - 8/7/2006 8:55 PM
Nice images, thanks.. whats the 'foam' like stuff below the black lines on the SRB's
shuttlefan - 9/7/2006 10:17 AM
Jim : " Foam ".
Is it the same foam that's on the ET and has there been any concerns about IT falling off? :)
Spirit - 9/7/2006 11:04 AMAnswered recently here:
Are they going to move P6 after they install P3/4 and P5?
norm103 - 11/7/2006 3:12 PMFYI, Bill Harwood's calendar was updated recently:
i here that july 25 is the rollover date is that right?
shuttlefan - 11/7/2006 7:36 PM
BTW, they better get the MLP off the pad soon so they can start prepping. for 115's arrival in three weeks. :)
anik - 13/7/2006 9:54 PM
The rumour: my source has told me today that the launch window for STS-115 was shortened recently... Now it is from August 28 till September 7... If Atlantis will be launched on September 7, then its undocking from ISS will be on September 16/17... Because of it Russia was compelled to postpone the launch of Soyuz TMA-9 from September 14 till September 18...
jacqmans - 15/7/2006 5:08 AMSo I take it that they arn't going to bother with a payload for this mission :D
The payload bay doors are closed for flight.
anik - 14/7/2006 2:17 PMThanks for keeping us informed...Bill Harwood has written a story today about this, some info on vehicle processing:
My source has specified the information today: if STS-115 will be launched from August 28 till September 3, then Soyuz TMA-9 launch date is September 14; if STS-115 will be launched from September 4 till September 8, then Soyuz TMA-9 launch date is September 18...
psloss - 15/7/2006 12:40 AM
Thanks for keeping us informed...Bill Harwood has written a story today about this
mainengine - 16/7/2006 4:12 PM
and the next will tell you aug 25, and the next aug 29 and so on ....
Chris Bergin - 17/7/2006 12:39 PM
Rollover review on Friday. Possible rollover Mon or Tues.
A week of contingency now worked.
Chris Bergin - 17/7/2006 7:53 PM She's ready to roll (literally). This thread will soon be closed and we'll move to a live rollover thread - and so on, as we did with 121.
Music to my ears! [and probably everyone else here too ;) ]
eeergo - 19/7/2006 12:03 PM
Looks like P3 truss segment is already being prepared!
Jim - 19/7/2006 9:38 AMQuoteeeergo - 19/7/2006 12:03 PM
Looks like P3 truss segment is already being prepared!
That is a piece of MGSE. It is the payload strongback. It is used to lift large payloads or a whole complement of the orbiter payload bay. the ISS trusses are to the right of the photo and are completed and waiting for flight..
eeergo - 19/7/2006 6:03 PM
Looks like P3 truss segment is already being prepared!
MarkD - 20/7/2006 9:30 AM
Will it be painted? The trusses appear white, even with no fabric over them. Yep, from the photo, it's one of the big solar array trusses, I can see the radiator and solar array tube on the end.
HKS - 20/7/2006 4:28 PM
I think these trusses and solar panels will take up most of Atlantis' payload bay, they are quite big.
Rapoc - 21/7/2006 7:14 AMNoted yesterday by Florida Today:
I think today they will move the P3/4 Truss into the Payload Canister.
dutch courage - 21/7/2006 9:06 AM
P3/P4 Truss is being lowered into a bay, not the payload canister.
EDIT: You are right, MKremer. It's the S6 Truss :(
Avron - 21/7/2006 4:09 PMQuotedutch courage - 21/7/2006 9:06 AM
P3/P4 Truss is being lowered into a bay, not the payload canister.
EDIT: You are right, MKremer. It's the S6 Truss :(
Eh.. how do you compare the P3.P4 vs S6?
P3/4 has a rotary joint?.. and S6 does not ... looks like a rotary joint to me... ???
Rapoc - 21/7/2006 4:22 PMI believe that there's two, one to go with each transporter.
Does anybody know how many payload canister KSC has?
MKremer - 21/7/2006 9:19 AM
Isn't that the weight scale frame?
(also, it looks like the whole truss is missing quite a few sheets of thermal covering)
DaveS - 21/7/2006 4:24 PMQuoteRapoc - 21/7/2006 4:22 PMI believe that there's two, one to go with each transporter.
Does anybody know how many payload canister KSC has?
Rapoc - 21/7/2006 4:35 PM
The S6 Truss is on the left, on the right is the S3/4 Truss.
punkboi - 21/7/2006 5:53 PM
Look at those lazy bums just lying around on the canister's doors. That's what our taxes paying for???
...
Haha, just kidding. I love the space program ;)
MKremer - 22/7/2006 8:18 AM
I still think the truss is sadly lacking some thermal covers.
Unless there will be one or two sheets to be installed in one of the installation spacewalks?
t walker - 22/7/2006 6:25 PMNo, the 3/4 trusses are different from the P6 truss on-orbit or the S6 truss that will fly last. The obvious difference is that the 3/4 truss has a solar alpha rotary joint, about which the sets of solar array wings will eventually rotate.
Isn't this truss structure identical to the one already on the ISS? You know, the one sticking out the top that in time will move round the side.
MKremer - 25/7/2006 10:08 AM
It's interesting that the SARJ is one aspect of the truss that I don't think any completed ISS illustration has ever shown in use.