NASASpaceFlight.com Forum

NASA Shuttle Specific Sections => Atlantis (Post STS-135, T&R) => Topic started by: Chris Bergin on 02/14/2007 09:34 pm

Title: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/14/2007 09:34 pm
Coverage from rollout and updates at the pad for Atlantis/STS-117.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/14/2007 11:06 pm
I'll be writing up the SRB issue latest for the Rollout article in the morning (early UK), but the summarize the new info in L2. The OPT has been removed. More work will be required.

They will rollout, and do the R&R work at the pad.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: rdale on 02/14/2007 11:12 pm
Clouds will thicken as the day progresses, morning temps in the 50's with temperatures only slowly warming up to a high in the lower-60's. No chance of rain during the morning - winds light out of the north.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/14/2007 11:35 pm
Quote
Chris Bergin - 14/2/2007  4:06 PM

I'll be writing up the SRB issue latest for the Rollout article in the morning (early UK), but the summarize the new info in L2. The OPT has been removed. More work will be required.

They will rollout, and do the R&R work at the pad.

Chris, sorry if you've mentioned this already but do we have any updates on whether or not a 3/15 event date will be affected by the SRB problem?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/14/2007 11:44 pm
Quote
Austin - 15/2/2007  12:35 AM

Quote
Chris Bergin - 14/2/2007  4:06 PM

I'll be writing up the SRB issue latest for the Rollout article in the morning (early UK), but the summarize the new info in L2. The OPT has been removed. More work will be required.

They will rollout, and do the R&R work at the pad.

Chris, sorry if you've mentioned this already but do we have any updates on whether or not a 3/15 event date will be affected by the SRB problem?

At present, there's plenty of contingency remaining, so there's no worries over the NET 3/15 date at this time.

It appears they may have to R&R all six (three on each SRB) OPTs...and the rundown we've published on L2 does say "there's more to come" on this, so we'll update as we go, based on hard data that arrives, but there's zero mentions of anything threatening the launch target.

We'll likely know more from tomorrow's PRCB meeting.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: MKremer on 02/15/2007 12:06 am
Quote
Chris Bergin - 14/2/2007  6:44 PM
We'll likely know more from tomorrow's PRCB meeting.
Which will be interesting to find out if they've discovered a basic problem with another batch of sensors (OPT sensor batches -vs- ECO sensor batches)/
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/15/2007 12:24 am
Thanks, Chris
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: marsguy on 02/15/2007 03:30 am
Assuming the rollout occurs tomorrow on time, does anyone know when NASA TV coverage of the rollout is supposed to start?  I am hoping I will be able to see Atlantis emerging from the VAB.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: fburnell on 02/15/2007 06:30 am
STS-117 Presskit is out:

http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/STS-117/PressKit_117.pdf
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Johnny Rönnberg on 02/15/2007 06:31 am
NASA TV Schedule
February 15, Thursday
7 a.m. - Space Shuttle Atlantis Rollout to Launch Pad - KSC (Media Channel)
8:15 a.m. - STS-117 B-Roll and Animation Feed - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
9 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Program Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
10:30 a.m. - STS-117 Preflight Mission Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
12:30 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Spacewalk Overview Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
2 p.m. - STS-117 Preflight Crew News Conference - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
3 p.m. - THEMIS Prelaunch News Conference - KSC (Public and Media Channels)
Immediately following Prelaunch News Conference - THEMIS Mission Science Briefing - KSC (Public and Media Channels)
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 10:22 am
Here's an update on the SRB issue (which some media had reported had been solved - incorrect).

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/content/?cid=5023
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 10:52 am
Coming up in 8 minutes on the NASA TV Media Channel( http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) : STS-117 rollout
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 10:55 am
Greg presenting the status report on NASA TV right now.... :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: KSC on 02/15/2007 10:55 am
ready to roll
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 10:59 am
Coverage now to start 7:30 am EST, instead of 7 am EST.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 11:07 am
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 11:13 am
Someone needs to turn off the night vision ;) (Space Shrew - check your PMs).

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 11:21 am
Rollout coverage on NASA TV Media Channel have started.

Rollout delayed due to some issues transferring MLP power from VAB facility power to Crawler power. But that has been resolved and first motion is anticipated at the bottom of the hour.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: JJ.. on 02/15/2007 11:22 am
1'st movement in 9 mins ..
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Stardust9906 on 02/15/2007 11:25 am
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 11:43 am
I don't think we've had any motion yet.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jonesy STS on 02/15/2007 11:44 am
What carpark is that where all those cars are going? For LCC workers?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 11:49 am
media channel
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 11:49 am
Cool job to have number 12:
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 11:49 am
Should be another 10-15 minutes until we have first motion.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 11:49 am
Update: First Motion now expected  in 10-15 minutes
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 11:52 am
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 12:06 pm
The go for the rollout has been given.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 12:06 pm
Teams in place. Go for first motion. Trip to the pad takes ~6 hrs. 3.4 Miles
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Felix on 02/15/2007 12:07 pm

First motion

Edit: Or maybe not...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jonesy STS on 02/15/2007 12:08 pm
The crawler stalled!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 12:09 pm
This guy needs to move soon!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: dutch courage on 02/15/2007 12:09 pm
It looks like a test run. Still waiting for a go...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:10 pm
Just a note that posts that repeat what's already been said will be deleted.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:11 pm
Well those circled span up for a bit, but then stopped.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jonesy STS on 02/15/2007 12:14 pm
Oh great. Thanks for cutting this off PAO. Stupid NASA TV.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 12:15 pm
Well, that's it for live rollout coverage. Now for some really uninteresting b-roll feed in preparation of the briefings.

Quote
Jonesy STS - 15/2/2007  2:14 PM

Oh great. Thanks for cutting this off PAO. Stupid NASA TV.
Agree fully. They seem to think that audio-less computer animations is so much more interesting.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 12:16 pm
Quote
DaveS - 15/2/2007  8:15 AM

Well, that's it for live rollout coverage. Now for some really uninteresting b-roll feed in preparation of the briefings.
SIGH....
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: dutch courage on 02/15/2007 12:16 pm
I'm pretty sure those are encoders for high speed counters, they track the distance traveled.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/15/2007 12:17 pm
Chris, Back to your sources for pics and info regarding rollout...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: JJ.. on 02/15/2007 12:18 pm
when will the live feed be back on ?
please don't tell me thats it for the next several hours ..
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:19 pm
Any USA/NASA guys here with a camera and an urge for stretching their legs this morning? ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 12:21 pm
When I was a kid  ( a long time ago) I thought the discs shown above were break discs. When I think back, I now think 'what a idiot i was thinking that'. How would they stop all that weight.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jmjawors on 02/15/2007 12:23 pm
Looks like they've started moving.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Max Q on 02/15/2007 12:26 pm
Quote
jmjawors - 15/2/2007  7:23 AM

Looks like they've started moving.

How so?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:27 pm
She's moving:
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Alex on 02/15/2007 12:28 pm
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

Thats as best as i can do.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: voyager on 02/15/2007 12:29 pm
1st Motion at 8:19 hrs.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:30 pm
Quote
voyager - 15/2/2007  1:29 PM

1st Motion at 8:19 hrs.

Thanks! :)
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:32 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:33 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: dutch courage on 02/15/2007 12:36 pm
A bit off topic but does anybody know if they stopped painting the VAB?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: BenOR on 02/15/2007 12:36 pm
Thanks Chris.
Can't believe their showing this B-Roll BS instead of the rollout. And who cares about preflight briefings (which is what is supposed to be on) anyway. It's not even March yet!
Anyway, I sent the inconsiderate blobs of nothing over at NASA an abusing email.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:36 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Alex on 02/15/2007 12:38 pm
Quote
dutch courage - 15/2/2007  11:36 PM

A bit off topic but does anybody know if they stopped painting the VAB?

Maybe they ran out of money.

So they had to stop painting and thats why the Nasa TV coverage of the rollout was stopped too!!!! Grrr Nasa.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: BenOR on 02/15/2007 12:39 pm
Quite possibly.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:41 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 12:46 pm
This is NASA at it's worst. A important event like rollout and no live coverage. You would think by now (2007) we would be able to watch live, how many sat's in orbit, how many TV channels and we can still not watch. NASA is a public funded company and they should please the public. They will never get top marks while they do things like this.

Sorry for being off topic.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/15/2007 12:49 pm
Quote
paulhbell07 - 15/2/2007  7:46 AM

This is NASA at it's worst. A important event like rollout and no live coverage. You would think by now (2007) we would be able to watch live, how many sat's in orbit, how many TV channels and we can still not watch. NASA is a public funded company and they should please the public. They will never get top marks while they do things like this.

Sorry for being off topic.

Very True! :(
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 12:50 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 12:52 pm
Let's drop the coverage thing. It's NASA PAO who are at fault (once again).

It has nothing to do with the managers or engineers etc.... So long as she's rolling out ok, we can live without the TV pictures. It's not mission critical.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: rdale on 02/15/2007 01:01 pm
Really - missing live coverage of the rollout is really no reason to rant this much. Don't even TRY to say that this has any impact on the public's perception. To stay off topic, it's been cool and rainy in Florida the past few days, which might explain the lack of painting.

While you're sending messages to NASA about Rollout TV, might as well tell them you want live coverage when the painting resumes too...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/15/2007 01:01 pm
From another website, S3/S4 module is scheduled to be installed into Atlantis payload bay on Monday, February 19. So R & R of those 6 SRB sensors will probably begin on Tuesday, February 20 at the earliest.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 01:02 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:03 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:08 pm
it's one thing to know how limited Atlantis' future flights are.  It's another thing to see only four more flights on a graphic chart.

Incidentally, CNN Headline News just showed a "LIVE" shot of Atlantis in the VAB.  I love "accurate and up to the minute" news services!  ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:13 pm
About to make the turn...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 01:17 pm
Chandon- are you able to post the link to where you are getting the pictures from. I have the same pictures but are about 4/5 minutes behind yours. I don't want to post them, just watch.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Max Q on 02/15/2007 01:20 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  8:08 AM

Incidentally, CNN Headline News just showed a "LIVE" shot of Atlantis in the VAB.  I love "accurate and up to the minute" news services!  ;)

That's too funny, but at least they didn't mention Nowak for once!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:24 pm
Could just be Net traffic.  I have a couple computers on my home Network and there's a lag on NASA TV between my office and the living room of about 45 seconds.

http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera1/Camera1html.htm

is what I'm using
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:27 pm
Still rolling...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 01:30 pm
Thanks. Thats what I'm using. When as above you posted 9:21 I'm still getting 9:16. 5 minutes ahead of me. Please keep up with the pictures.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: simonbp on 02/15/2007 01:30 pm
A question of personal interest: when will she reach the pad and when will the RSS be closed? I may be able to swing by KSC on Sunday...

Simon ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: JJ.. on 02/15/2007 01:35 pm
http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera1/Camera1html.htm
thats a great link,thanks
the prime thing is that atlantis is on its way to the pad,i can put up with web cam pics as long as its all going smoothly,
thanks for the updates guys,

JJ..
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/15/2007 01:35 pm
RSS must be closed before S3/S4 is installed on Monday, Feb. 19.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:38 pm
And almost at another crossroads...
[The thing is: sometimes the pics on the KSC webcams take a while to refresh...]

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 01:39 pm
Just woke up.  Sorry to hear about the PAO dropping coverage but thank you all for posting so I can catch up.  I'll be watching throughout the day as she rolls along.  It will be interesting to see her roll to 39A.  Atlantis hasn't sat on 39A since February 7, 2001 when she lifted off for STS-98.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:41 pm
Channel 9 on the KSC video feeds (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html) is from one of the pads.  I'm hoping it's 39A so we can have a good approach shot (well, we probably will anyway)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:42 pm
Rollin', rollin'...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: berni on 02/15/2007 01:47 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  3:41 PM

Channel 9 on the KSC video feeds (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html) is from one of the pads.  I'm hoping it's 39A so we can have a good approach shot (well, we probably will anyway)

comparing this with google earth, it is 39B...  the white building on the left is perpendicular to the road at 39A.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 01:48 pm
I agree- 39B. 39A has a bend in the road outside the pad gates.


Shame.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:50 pm
Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  9:47 AM

Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  3:41 PM

Channel 9 on the KSC video feeds (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html) is from one of the pads.  I'm hoping it's 39A so we can have a good approach shot (well, we probably will anyway)

comparing this with google earth, it is 39B...  the white building on the left is perpendicular to the road at 39A.
Well, hopefully they'll switch cams on us at the pad...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:52 pm
The cam seems a bit lagged at the moment.  Last time it did that we got 3 new pics when the site refreshed...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 01:52 pm
Quote
paulhbell07 - 15/2/2007  3:48 PM

I agree- 39B. 39A has a bend in the road outside the pad gates.


Shame.
It's 39B alright. OTV cameras that start with "1xx" is from 39B.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Max Q on 02/15/2007 01:53 pm
Listening to Wayne Hale  and he's practically speaking word for word on the articles that are already on this site! Rest of the media are miles behind this curve.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: berni on 02/15/2007 01:54 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  3:41 PM

Channel 9 on the KSC video feeds (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html) is from one of the pads.  I'm hoping it's 39A so we can have a good approach shot (well, we probably will anyway)

is pad 39A shown on channel 4?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:55 pm
Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  9:54 AM

Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  3:41 PM

Channel 9 on the KSC video feeds (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html) is from one of the pads.  I'm hoping it's 39A so we can have a good approach shot (well, we probably will anyway)

is pad 39A shown on channel 4?

We'll know in a little while if we see the shuttle on that one ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:57 pm
And there she goes again!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 01:59 pm
Quote
Mark Max Q - 15/2/2007  2:53 PM

Listening to Wayne Hale  and he's practically speaking word for word on the articles that are already on this site! Rest of the media are miles behind this curve.

Might be something to do with the presentations, memos, documents that we use off L2 for articles being written by Wayne Hale etc ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 01:59 pm
And from KSC Channel 3....

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/15/2007 02:01 pm
Quote
Chris Bergin - 15/2/2007  8:11 AM

Well those circled span up for a bit, but then stopped.

Those are the brakes
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 02:02 pm
Guys, I'm not sure if you now of this site http://www.flashearth.com/
It has google maps and microsoft virtual earth, plus others. All on one page. I have been following the shuttle on here using chondonn's pictures.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:04 pm
Is that one of the pad LOX tanks in the background on the right?

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 02:05 pm
Jim- I posted earlier that when I was a kid I thought they where brakes, but now I wasn't sure.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:07 pm
We're getting more cam coverage on the KSC Live Feeds: http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/video45m.html

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:08 pm
Keep chuggin' along baby...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:10 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/15/2007 02:11 pm
Quote
paulhbell07 - 15/2/2007  10:05 AM

Jim- I posted earlier that when I was a kid I thought they where brakes, but now I wasn't sure.

They are
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 02:12 pm
Thanks Jim.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:12 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:14 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:18 pm
And here we go...  a good shot...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 02:18 pm
Around about here.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: rosbif73 on 02/15/2007 02:19 pm
And live on Nasa TV too...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:20 pm
Two shots:  two different launch pads...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:23 pm
Traffic Jam?

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Lee Jay on 02/15/2007 02:24 pm
When the system rounds a corner, is this done in a smooth fashion by gently slowing down the inside track, or is it piecewise-linear (drive straight, stop, rotate in place, drive straight...)?

Just curious.

Lee Jay
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:24 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:27 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:28 pm
Nope.  Not that one...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: berni on 02/15/2007 02:28 pm
is there anybody using a bicycle? the crawler is not too fast... :)
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:29 pm
Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  10:28 AM

is there anybody using a bicycle? the crawler is not too fast... :)

Well, faster accelleration might not be a bad thing.  But those sudden stops would kill her.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: C5C6 on 02/15/2007 02:30 pm
DAMN!! just came from university (physics final exam) and all these information and pictures!!  can somebody give me the high resolution NASA TV link?????

we're behind you, Atlantis!!
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:30 pm
Rolling right along...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: dutch courage on 02/15/2007 02:31 pm
Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  4:28 PM

is there anybody using a bicycle? the crawler is not too fast... :)
There's no airconditioning on a bicycle. ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: rosbif73 on 02/15/2007 02:31 pm
Quote
C5C6 - 15/2/2007  4:30 PM

DAMN!! just came from university (physics final exam) and all these information and pictures!!  can somebody give me the high resolution NASA TV link?????

we're behind you, Atlantis!!

http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163 at 1200 kbps is the best I know of...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: SimonShuttle on 02/15/2007 02:32 pm
STS-117's flight director is pretty sexy! :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:32 pm
Quote
C5C6 - 15/2/2007  9:30 AM

DAMN!! just came from university (physics final exam) and all these information and pictures!!  can somebody give me the high resolution NASA TV link?????

we're behind you, Atlantis!!

NASA TV cut the live coverage earlier.  This is all we have.  If you want to watch the rollout, stick with us.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:32 pm
The KSC webcams seem to be lagged again...

I think this IS the hi-res feed, as they're doing briefings on NASA TV again.

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:33 pm
Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  9:24 AM

When the system rounds a corner, is this done in a smooth fashion by gently slowing down the inside track, or is it piecewise-linear (drive straight, stop, rotate in place, drive straight...)?

Just curious.

Lee Jay

It's a very slow turn.  The front tracks on the crawler rotate very slowly and they take the turn like a car would.  It takes a little while but she gets it done just fine.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:39 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:40 pm
Get a look at Pad B...we won't see a bird on that complex for another year and a half or so.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:42 pm
Road Hog!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:43 pm
The road not taken....

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 02:47 pm
Approaching the turn to Pad B I see.  Glad to know she'll keep on going!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Lee Jay on 02/15/2007 02:50 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  8:33 AM

Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  9:24 AM

When the system rounds a corner, is this done in a smooth fashion by gently slowing down the inside track, or is it piecewise-linear (drive straight, stop, rotate in place, drive straight...)?

Just curious.

Lee Jay

It's a very slow turn.  The front tracks on the crawler rotate very slowly and they take the turn like a car would.  It takes a little while but she gets it done just fine.

Wow.  I thought it was a tank-like turn.  I didn't realize the fronts could rotate.

Thanks.

Lee Jay
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 02:58 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:00 pm
Again, for those who've joined us late, the STS-117 Press Kit is now available at:

http://www.shuttlepresskit.com/STS-117/PressKit_117.pdf

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:01 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:03 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 03:06 pm
Let's just hope we don't have a roll-reversal today if you catch my drift ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/15/2007 03:09 pm
Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  10:50 AM

Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  8:33 AM

Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  9:24 AM

When the system rounds a corner, is this done in a smooth fashion by gently slowing down the inside track, or is it piecewise-linear (drive straight, stop, rotate in place, drive straight...)?

Just curious.

Lee Jay

It's a very slow turn.  The front tracks on the crawler rotate very slowly and they take the turn like a car would.  It takes a little while but she gets it done just fine.

Wow.  I thought it was a tank-like turn.  I didn't realize the fronts could rotate.

Thanks.

Lee Jay

The rear rotate also.  hugh hydraulic cylinders push/pull the track assemblies to steer the crawler
You can see a cylinder in these post  (3rd page of this thread)

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=6621&mid=112139#M112139


the post links aren't working
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:10 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: rdale on 02/15/2007 03:10 pm
Quote
SimonShuttle - 15/2/2007  10:32 AM

STS-117's flight director is pretty sexy! :)

Not saying I don't like attractive women - but I don't know if that's an appropriate post ;>
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Lee Jay on 02/15/2007 03:11 pm
Quote
Jim - 15/2/2007  9:09 AM

Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  10:50 AM

Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  8:33 AM

Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  9:24 AM

When the system rounds a corner, is this done in a smooth fashion by gently slowing down the inside track, or is it piecewise-linear (drive straight, stop, rotate in place, drive straight...)?

Just curious.

Lee Jay

It's a very slow turn.  The front tracks on the crawler rotate very slowly and they take the turn like a car would.  It takes a little while but she gets it done just fine.

Wow.  I thought it was a tank-like turn.  I didn't realize the fronts could rotate.

Thanks.

Lee Jay

The rear rotate also.  hugh hydraulic cylinders push/pull the track assemblies to steer the crawler

It's great what you can learn on this site.

Thanks Jim.

Lee Jay
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:21 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 03:23 pm
NASA update:

02.15.07 - 8:19 a.m. EST

On a bright and sunny morning at Kennedy Space Center in Florida, Space Shuttle Atlantis left the Vehicle Assembly Building for the 3.4 mile journey to Launch Pad 39A. The shuttle resting atop the crawler transporter will make the approximate 6-hour trip to the pad -- the next major milestone for mission STS-117. First motion was at 8:19 a.m. EST.

Once Space Shuttle Atlantis is safely in place on the pad the payloads will be transferred into the orbiter's payload bay.

The launch of Mission STS-117 will be the first liftoff from Pad 39A in four years.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:24 pm
There still seems to be some lag on the webcams...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:26 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:27 pm
More from the Webcams...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:31 pm
Looks like we're bypassing 39B this time, guys!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:31 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 03:32 pm
Woohoo!  Over four hours in.  Making good time!  Looks like we still have a couple of minutes before the next webcam capture.  Dibs!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:34 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  11:32 AM

Woohoo!  Over four hours in.  Making good time!

Typical Rush Hour traffic!  ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:34 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:35 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  11:32 AM

Looks like we still have a couple of minutes before the next webcam capture.  Dibs!

You've got it!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:41 pm
A few more KSC Live Feeds...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:42 pm
There's our target in the background!

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 03:42 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:46 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:54 pm
Bit of a crowd following the shuttle...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 03:56 pm
Isn't she lovely!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/15/2007 03:59 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  4:56 PM

Isn't she lovely!


Very much so. Many thanks for the help with the images. Very busy with L2 for a while, so I appreciate the help.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:02 pm
No problem...

Heading in the right direction!



Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:03 pm
Nathan, the KSC Webcams are no longer lagged...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:04 pm
Half-way there, per NASA TV!

Also, updated the lightning mast and orbiter access room during the stand-down from 39A...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:06 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:08 pm
About to make the turn...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: berni on 02/15/2007 04:11 pm
the white tall thing on the left at 12:01, is it the payload canister?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:12 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:13 pm
Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  12:11 PM

the white tall thing on the left at 12:01, is it the payload canister?

I think so.  We'll go right past it in a little while...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/15/2007 04:13 pm
yes
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 04:15 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  11:13 AM

Quote
berni - 15/2/2007  12:11 PM

the white tall thing on the left at 12:01, is it the payload canister?

I think so.  We'll go right past it in a little while...


Right-O.  They move it out of the way so the orbiter can go by safely.  It will go back to the CRF later on.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:17 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:20 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: punkboi on 02/15/2007 04:22 pm

Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007 9:08 AM About to make the turn...

 Still waiting...

 Still waiting...

 Still waiting...

Wow, that thing is slow. :)

Just being facetious.

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:22 pm
We'll be there soon...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:24 pm
Quote
punkboi - 15/2/2007  12:22 PM

Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007 9:08 AM About to make the turn...

 Still waiting...

 Still waiting...

 Still waiting...

Wow, that thing is slow. :)

Just being facetious.


The refresh rates on the KSC webcams are appalling.  They'll lag for a while then we'll have 2 or 3 updates all at once!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: eeergo on 02/15/2007 04:26 pm
They are broadcasting it right now on NASA TV, FYI...

EDIT: Well, they were... it had been on for half an hour and just when I spoke, the preflight spacewalk overview started :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:26 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:28 pm
Quote
eeergo - 15/2/2007  12:26 PM

They are broadcasting it right now on NASA TV, FYI...

That's one of the feeds I have up.  I was referring to the KSC webcam from the VAB which is providing us with a birds-eye view of the rollout.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:29 pm
Those buses are everywhere today!

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:31 pm
I'm going to have to run to work very shortly.  I hope somebody else can continue the captures.

http://webcams.ksc.nasa.gov/ImgCap/Camera1/Camera1html.htm
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

Hopefully, by the time I'm able to check back we'll be hard-down at the pad.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 04:36 pm
I think she's turning.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 04:37 pm
Quickly before I go...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:38 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:39 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:41 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:42 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 04:43 pm
she's sprinting to the finish.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 04:44 pm
Rounded the corner I see!  Keep going baby :) They're doing great today.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:44 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:45 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: paulhbell07 on 02/15/2007 04:46 pm
She must be at the pad gates by now?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:46 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jmjawors on 02/15/2007 04:47 pm
Man, whoever noticed the buses earlier this thread had it dead on.  Almost every time I refresh the screen I've got a bus blocking the view!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 04:50 pm
Lucky people taking the tours today...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:52 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:57 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 04:59 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:05 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: punkboi on 02/15/2007 05:12 pm
NASA TV back to rollout coverage...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlepilot on 02/15/2007 05:14 pm
I think they will stop coverage again after few minutes...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/15/2007 05:15 pm
Quote
shuttlepilot - 15/2/2007  7:14 PM

I think they will stop coverage again after few minutes...
Well, they only have stopped the coverge for the breifings and the next is at 2 pm EST, in 45 minutes.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:20 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:22 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:24 pm
spooky view...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:26 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:28 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:33 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:35 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:38 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:40 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:43 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:46 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:49 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Lee Jay on 02/15/2007 05:53 pm
Another quick question.

How is the MLP attached to the pedestals at the pad (bolts, clamps, day-old DoubleBubble...)?  I'm assuming it's not just gravity.

Lee Jay
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 05:53 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlepilot on 02/15/2007 05:56 pm
End of coverage again.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:03 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 06:03 pm
Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  12:53 PM

Another quick question.

How is the MLP attached to the pedestals at the pad (bolts, clamps, day-old DoubleBubble...)?  I'm assuming it's not just gravity.

Lee Jay

Double Bubble hahaha.  I dunno man.  12 million pounds can do quite a bit as far as keep itself anchored.  I would think there's some kind of system securing it but I couldn't tell you for sure.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:07 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Avron on 02/15/2007 06:09 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  2:03 PM

Quote
Lee Jay - 15/2/2007  12:53 PM

Another quick question.

How is the MLP attached to the pedestals at the pad (bolts, clamps, day-old DoubleBubble...)?  I'm assuming it's not just gravity.

Lee Jay

Double Bubble hahaha.  I dunno man.  12 million pounds can do quite a bit as far as keep itself anchored.  I would think there's some kind of system securing it but I couldn't tell you for sure.


Bolts
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:12 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:15 pm
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:18 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:31 pm
Roll out photo's are now online at:

http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 06:35 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 06:39 pm
Strange seeing the FSS without the crane.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: punkboi on 02/15/2007 06:48 pm
Back to live NASA TV coverage... Atlantis finally in its launch position on the pad
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 07:14 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  8:39 PM

Strange seeing the FSS without the crane.

which crane do you mean ??
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 02/15/2007 07:27 pm
Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007  8:14 PM

Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007  8:39 PM

Strange seeing the FSS without the crane.

which crane do you mean ??

I think he means the crane that used to be on top of the FSS? :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: punkboi on 02/15/2007 07:28 pm

Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007 12:14 PM
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007 8:39 PM Strange seeing the FSS without the crane.
which crane do you mean ??

 The crane at the very top of the FSS, right below the lightning mast

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 07:30 pm
that crane was removed years ago, 1994 or 1995 I belive...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 02/15/2007 07:33 pm
Quote
punkboi - 15/2/2007  8:28 PM

Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007 12:14 PM
Quote
nathan.moeller - 15/2/2007 8:39 PM Strange seeing the FSS without the crane.
which crane do you mean ??

The crane at the very top of the FSS, right below the lightning mast


I feel the same, but I think it looks better without it somehow...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 07:40 pm
Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007  2:30 PM

that crane was removed years ago, 1994 or 1995 I belive...

Guess I never paid attention.  And after seeing 39B so much lately I never noticed.  Great seeing a bird on the pad again, as always.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/15/2007 07:41 pm
The Fixed Service Structure is located on the north side of each pad's hardstand. It is an open framework structure about 40 feet (12.2 meters) square. A hammerhead crane on top provides hoisting services as required in pad operations. There are 12 work levels at 20-foot (6.1-meter) intervals. The height of the structure to the top of the tower is 247 feet (75 meters), while the distance to the top of the hammerhead crane is 265 feet (81 meters). The 80-foot (24-meter) fiberglass lightning mast tops off the Fixed Service Structure at 347 feet (106 meters).
The Fixed Service Structure has three service arms. They are the Orbiter Access Arm, the
External Tank Hydrogen Vent Line Access Arm and the External Tank Gaseous Oxygen Vent Arm.

The hammerhead cranes were later removed (pad A in 1994 and pad B in 1995) due to the high cost of maintaining them. It was decided that, since a ground based crane could be used, it was cheaper to remove and scap them, than it was to refurbish them.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 02/15/2007 07:49 pm
Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007  8:41 PM

The Fixed Service Structure is located on the north side of each pad's hardstand. It is an open framework structure about 40 feet (12.2 meters) square. A hammerhead crane on top provides hoisting services as required in pad operations. There are 12 work levels at 20-foot (6.1-meter) intervals. The height of the structure to the top of the tower is 247 feet (75 meters), while the distance to the top of the hammerhead crane is 265 feet (81 meters). The 80-foot (24-meter) fiberglass lightning mast tops off the Fixed Service Structure at 347 feet (106 meters).
The Fixed Service Structure has three service arms. They are the Orbiter Access Arm, the
External Tank Hydrogen Vent Line Access Arm and the External Tank Gaseous Oxygen Vent Arm.

The hammerhead cranes were later removed (pad A in 1994 and pad B in 1995) due to the high cost of maintaining them. It was decided that, since a ground based crane could be used, it was cheaper to remove and scap them, than it was to refurbish them.

Am I right in assuming these were the ones used on the apollo towers? :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Orbiter Obvious on 02/15/2007 08:16 pm
Nice smooth roll to the pad. Thanks for the coverage guys. Was in school and catching up.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/15/2007 08:22 pm
Home briefly for lunch...

Here come the access arms and beanie cap...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: TJL on 02/15/2007 08:22 pm
Quote
jacqmans - 15/2/2007  3:41 PM

The Fixed Service Structure is located on the north side of each pad's hardstand. It is an open framework structure about 40 feet (12.2 meters) square. A hammerhead crane on top provides hoisting services as required in pad operations. There are 12 work levels at 20-foot (6.1-meter) intervals. The height of the structure to the top of the tower is 247 feet (75 meters), while the distance to the top of the hammerhead crane is 265 feet (81 meters). The 80-foot (24-meter) fiberglass lightning mast tops off the Fixed Service Structure at 347 feet (106 meters).
The Fixed Service Structure has three service arms. They are the Orbiter Access Arm, the
External Tank Hydrogen Vent Line Access Arm and the External Tank Gaseous Oxygen Vent Arm.

The hammerhead cranes were later removed (pad A in 1994 and pad B in 1995) due to the high cost of maintaining them. It was decided that, since a ground based crane could be used, it was cheaper to remove and scap them, than it was to refurbish them.

Looks like part of the crane still is in place on Pad "B"...see photo of STS-116 roll out.
http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images//medium/06pd2478-m.jpg

The top of the FSS on Pad "A" seems a lot "cleaner". See STS-117 photo...
http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images//medium/07pd0403-m.jpg
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: STS-500Cmdr on 02/15/2007 08:53 pm
Im just noticing the crane being gone--was trying to figure out what was missing--why it looked different.  Ive been watching all these yrs and i dont think i ever noticed the cranes were removed until you folks just pointed it out.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Nguyen on 02/15/2007 09:18 pm
What sort of things would that crane have had to move? Not spacecraft components, surely...

Mark
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/15/2007 09:23 pm
Quote
Mark Nguyen - 15/2/2007  4:18 PM

What sort of things would that crane have had to move? Not spacecraft components, surely...

Mark

Used for pad maintenance.  Replacing parts of the structure and moving pad hardware.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/15/2007 09:28 pm
Quote
Mark Nguyen - 15/2/2007  5:18 PM

What sort of things would that crane have had to move? Not spacecraft components, surely...

Mark

It was used for lifting items too big for the elevator also.  The orbiter escape pole is one of these items
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Dave on 02/15/2007 11:05 pm
Thanks for clearing that up. :) I was wondering what happened to the cranes. The only one now left is seen in the Saturn V Center building. Man, seen so close it make you appreciate the scale of the parts used.

I can't see that well the current Pad A look. What does the top of the FSS look like close up? Also are there any photos showing Pad A being retrofitted?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Space Shrew on 02/16/2007 12:21 am
The RSS has rolled forward and covered up Atlantis
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Rocket Guy on 02/16/2007 12:34 am
Regarding the crane, the base was in place on A until recently; it was there for 107 (as it is on B still).

I've posted rollout photos on my website if interested.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: TJL on 02/16/2007 12:48 am
Ben...really great shots of the roll-out...Thanks!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Paul Adams on 02/16/2007 01:20 am
Hi Ben,

Is that a change in the shade of brown that I see on the ET - great photos as always!!

Paul
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: spaceshuttle on 02/16/2007 01:45 am
Quote
Paul Adams - 15/2/2007  8:20 PM

Hi Ben,

Is that a change in the shade of brown that I see on the ET - great photos as always!!

Paul

That aged foam makes it look old-school. Nice hue. Also, nice pix!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/16/2007 01:53 am
Great shots Ben!  Amazing!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/16/2007 02:54 am
Incredible collection you got there, Ben.  Puts all the screen caps to shame!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/16/2007 03:27 am
Quote
Chandonn - 15/2/2007  9:54 PM

Incredible collection you got there, Ben.  Puts all the screen caps to shame!

Heck, it puts NASA's collection to shame.  Very artistic views.  Thanks Ben.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/16/2007 11:13 am
Quote
Ben - 16/2/2007  1:34 AM

I've posted rollout photos on my website if interested.

No, no one's interested Ben ;)

Great images, I'm even more jealous of you now :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/16/2007 11:25 am
Morning shot...

There's something awesome about seeing a large structure in the morning... looking foggy because of the distance...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: HKS on 02/16/2007 11:54 am
Yes... A nice picture of the pad, with the RSS covering Atlantis

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Rocket Guy on 02/16/2007 01:33 pm
Thanks for the comments :-)

Don't forget his too:
http://www.pbase.com/rod_ostoski/sts117

I think the change in appearance of the foam yesterday was just due to the lighting changes with cloud cover. Normally, however, it darkens from sitting out in the sun over time.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/16/2007 02:09 pm
Quote
Ben - 16/2/2007  2:33 PM

Thanks for the comments :-)

Don't forget his too:
http://www.pbase.com/rod_ostoski/sts117

I think the change in appearance of the foam yesterday was just due to the lighting changes with cloud cover. Normally, however, it darkens from sitting out in the sun over time.

I like the "Birds of a different feather" :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Mark Nguyen on 02/16/2007 03:30 pm
Some sweet images there! Have any larger, desktop-sizeable images been published yet? I personally like to keep my desktop concurrent with where the next shuttle launch is sitting, and according to my monitor Atlantis is still sitting in the VAB. :P

Mark

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Joffan on 02/16/2007 03:58 pm
Sounds like a great NSF (maybe L2) product... "follow the shuttle on your desktop, live updates"
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: triddirt on 02/16/2007 09:02 pm
Quote
Mark Nguyen - 16/2/2007  11:30 AM

Some sweet images there! Have any larger, desktop-sizeable images been published yet? I personally like to keep my desktop concurrent with where the next shuttle launch is sitting, and according to my monitor Atlantis is still sitting in the VAB. :P

Mark

There are large, desktop size pictures available from NASA here http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/search.cfm?cat=4

Sizes are S|M|L and the L's are pretty big
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/16/2007 09:47 pm
Q: How soon is the payload actually transferred into the orbiter?

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/16/2007 10:07 pm
Quote
Chandonn - 16/2/2007  11:47 PM
Q: How soon is the payload actually transferred into the orbiter?
Set for Monday.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/16/2007 11:52 pm
Hello! On Kennedy Space Center Live Video Website Camara 2, there is a view of an area on a work platform between space shuttle and external tank sitting in the dark in the VAB. :) It sure is spooky looking. What is the story of the fully stacked space shuttle in the VAB with lights turned off? Smile!
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/17/2007 01:07 am
Quote
Gerald Andrew Richli - 16/2/2007  6:52 PM

Hello! On Kennedy Space Center Live Video Website Camara 2, there is a view of an area on a work platform between space shuttle and external tank sitting in the dark in the VAB. :) It sure is spooky looking. What is the story of the fully stacked space shuttle in the VAB with lights turned off? Smile!

The camera quit updating about a week ago while Atlantis was still in the VAB.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/17/2007 02:52 am
Quote
DaveS - 16/2/2007  5:07 PM

Quote
Chandonn - 16/2/2007  11:47 PM
Q: How soon is the payload actually transferred into the orbiter?
Set for Monday.

Was the APU Hotfire Test conducted yesterday before the RSS was moved into position, or is that still scheduled for later?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/17/2007 01:45 pm
Some views from this morning:
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/17/2007 01:59 pm
... and a long shot...

Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/17/2007 02:25 pm
Is there a snippet from L2 that Chris could provide, about events at the pad which have been completed and also to come? It would be so appreciated.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: TJL on 02/17/2007 02:33 pm
Was wondering what the light area is, seen on the bottom section of the ET?
Photo courtesy of Ben...Thank you.

http://www.launchphotography.com/STS-117_rollout_4.JPG
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: mkirk on 02/17/2007 03:49 pm
Quote
shuttlefan - 16/2/2007  9:52 PM

Was the APU Hotfire Test conducted yesterday before the RSS was moved into position, or is that still scheduled for later?

An APU Hot Fire/Confidence Run is only required if one or more APUs were swapped out or significant APU/Hydraulic maintenance was performed during the processing flow.  

I don’t believe that occurred during this flow so a Hot Fire is not required – I will double check the schedule however.

Mark Kirkman
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: mkirk on 02/17/2007 03:51 pm
Quote
TJL - 17/2/2007  9:33 AM

Was wondering what the light area is, seen on the bottom section of the ET?
Photo courtesy of Ben...Thank you.

http://www.launchphotography.com/STS-117_rollout_4.JPG

It is a processing/maintenance closeout area.  In other words newer foam was applied in that location.

Mark Kirkman
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: mkirk on 02/17/2007 03:57 pm
Quote
shuttlefan - 17/2/2007  9:25 AM

Is there a snippet from L2 that Chris could provide, about events at the pad which have been completed and also to come? It would be so appreciated.

Launch Pad Validation Testing began as soon as the vehicle was "hard down" at the Pad.  The next major activities include the Engine Flight Readiness Test and Preperations for Hypergolic loading of the OMS, RCS, APU, and SRB HPU propellant tanks.

TCDT countdown will start next Thursday morning and end with a simulated cutoff and crew egress around 11:00 am on Friday.

Mark Kirkman
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Michael22090 on 02/17/2007 11:43 pm
When will the RSS be rolled back from the Orbiter? Will it be soon after the payload is transferred, or will it stay that way for a while after?
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/17/2007 11:45 pm
Quote
Michael22090 - 18/2/2007  1:43 AM

When will the RSS be rolled back from the Orbiter?
Not until about 20 or so hours before launch. The RSS provides weather protection for the orbiter during it's stay on the pad.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nitin52 on 02/18/2007 12:58 pm
Why one of the SRB has a black band on top, near the cone and the other SRB do not have? Are both SRBs  not similar?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/18/2007 01:17 pm
Quote
nitin52 - 18/2/2007  8:58 AM

Why one of the SRB has a black band on top, near the cone and the other SRB do not have? Are both SRBs  not similar?

So they can be identified in pictures
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/18/2007 02:00 pm
Quote
Jim - 18/2/2007  8:17 AM

Quote
nitin52 - 18/2/2007  8:58 AM

Why one of the SRB has a black band on top, near the cone and the other SRB do not have? Are both SRBs  not similar?

So they can be identified in pictures

Between 1984 and 1994, the SRBs had more black markings on them, near the nosecones. Why aren't those there anymore? ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: TJL on 02/18/2007 02:36 pm
Don't know why they changed the markings, but the first flight to have them was STS-41D in 1984...and the first to have the current design was STS-61 in 1993.
Prior to '84 I believe there were small markings along the side of the casings.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: stefan1138 on 02/18/2007 03:03 pm
You can find very useful, in depth information concerning the external appearance of all orbiters and all different stacks on AXM´s excellent reference site. Here is the link:

http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/REFERENCE.html

Stefan :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: TJL on 02/18/2007 04:01 pm
Stefan..thanks for the very thorough link.
Never realized there were that many changes.
Will the flight scheduled before STS-125 (HST) be the first "stack 6" (or "stack 5a")configuration?...thank you.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: stefan1138 on 02/18/2007 04:16 pm
I also find the reference for each orbiter very good. Did also not realize that there were so many (subtle) changes in the appearance of each orbiter. Those guys at AXM do a great job - the seem to notice EVERY little detail.

Don´t know about "Stack 6" but at the time of STS 125 there will probably be enough changes for them to create a new reference page.

Stefan :)
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Michael22090 on 02/18/2007 05:28 pm
Is payload transfer to Atlantis still set for tomorrow?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: psloss on 02/19/2007 12:05 am
Quote
stefan1138 - 18/2/2007  12:16 PM

I also find the reference for each orbiter very good. Did also not realize that there were so many (subtle) changes in the appearance of each orbiter. Those guys at AXM do a great job - the seem to notice EVERY little detail.
It is a very nice reference, especially for building models; outside that perspective, perhaps they can add some details to some of TPS changes.  For example, during the downtime after the 51-L disaster, Columbia had most of the tiles on its mid-fuselage sidewalls replaced with blankets.  I didn't see any reference to that, but maybe I missed it.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: ShuttleDiscovery on 02/19/2007 06:05 pm
Quote
psloss - 19/2/2007  1:05 AM

Quote
stefan1138 - 18/2/2007  12:16 PM

I also find the reference for each orbiter very good. Did also not realize that there were so many (subtle) changes in the appearance of each orbiter. Those guys at AXM do a great job - the seem to notice EVERY little detail.
It is a very nice reference, especially for building models; outside that perspective, perhaps they can add some details to some of TPS changes.  For example, during the downtime after the 51-L disaster, Columbia had most of the tiles on its mid-fuselage sidewalls replaced with blankets.  I didn't see any reference to that, but maybe I missed it.

I too find the detail on those refrences very precise. Most of these tiny changes, we don't even realise until we look up close!

 :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/19/2007 08:47 pm
Has the S3/S4 payload been installed into the Atlantis payload bay?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: mkirk on 02/19/2007 11:46 pm
Quote
Gerald Andrew Richli - 19/2/2007  3:47 PM

Has the S3/S4 payload been installed into the Atlantis payload bay?

Yes it was installed today.

Mark Kirkman
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/20/2007 12:11 am
Can someone remind me when the FRR is again? Is it the 27-28 this month?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/20/2007 12:44 am
Thanks Mark
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/20/2007 01:49 am
When the STS-117 crew and Launch and Mission Control do their Countdown Demonstration Test on Friday, will Jessica Rye also be in the Firing Room practicing her commentary for the real launch day? Does TCDT go all the way down to the public affairs commentator even when they are not being broadcast Live on NASA TV for TCDT? ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Michael22090 on 02/20/2007 02:53 am
Quote
mkirk - 19/2/2007  6:46 PM

Quote
Gerald Andrew Richli - 19/2/2007  3:47 PM

Has the S3/S4 payload been installed into the Atlantis payload bay?

Yes it was installed today.

Mark Kirkman

Thanks for the update. It's good to know that everything is going as planned.  :)
By the way, does anyone have any good pictures of the RSS covering Atlantis or being rolled toward it. Like to keep my desktop updated! Thanks.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/20/2007 12:43 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/20/2007 03:09 pm
Quote
DaveS - 19/2/2007  7:11 PM

Can someone remind me when the FRR is again? Is it the 27-28 this month?

Yes Dave.  February 27-28.  Getting close! :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/20/2007 03:44 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 20/2/2007  5:09 PM

Quote
DaveS - 19/2/2007  7:11 PM

Can someone remind me when the FRR is again? Is it the 27-28 this month?

Yes Dave.  February 27-28.  Getting close! :)
Yep indeed! It's Tuesday/Wednesday next week. Then it's only about 2 weeks until launch!
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/20/2007 05:36 pm
Very exciting.  In the meantime, final preps at the pad are continuing.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/20/2007 06:07 pm
Less than a month to go. This one isn't that far away, so we should all get our game faces on soon!

No new mentions of SRB issues, so this is all very clean right now in the flow.
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/20/2007 06:43 pm
Quote
Chris Bergin - 20/2/2007  1:07 PM

Less than a month to go. This one isn't that far away, so we should all get our game faces on soon!

No new mentions of SRB issues, so this is all very clean right now in the flow.

Amen.  I went ahead and put the patch on my flight jacket ahead of the launch as usual.  Game face is on!
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/20/2007 07:30 pm
Quote
nathan.moeller - 20/2/2007  1:43 PM

Quote
Chris Bergin - 20/2/2007  1:07 PM

Less than a month to go. This one isn't that far away, so we should all get our game faces on soon!

No new mentions of SRB issues, so this is all very clean right now in the flow.

Amen.  I went ahead and put the patch on my flight jacket ahead of the launch as usual.  Game face is on!


Nice to see a photo of you Nathan! :)
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/20/2007 10:18 pm
Quote
Chris Bergin - 20/2/2007  2:07 PM

Less than a month to go. This one isn't that far away, so we should all get our game faces on soon!

No new mentions of SRB issues, so this is all very clean right now in the flow.

I was wondering if those issues have been resolved...
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/20/2007 11:34 pm
17 STS-117 Flight Readiness Review (FRR) MOD Presentations now on L2. Warning, book a day off to read through all of that!  :cool:
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/20/2007 11:46 pm
Still looking forward to 3/15...hoping for a big birthday candle.

Fingers crossed...
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: STS-500Cmdr on 02/21/2007 01:37 am
Better yet--2 big birthday candles--Atlantis' SRBs.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: C5C6 on 02/21/2007 10:47 am
Quote
STS-500Cmdr - 20/2/2007  11:37 PM

Better yet--2 big birthday candles--Atlantis' SRBs.
:bleh: 2 aluminium and 3 hydrogen candles try to blow that  ;)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/21/2007 08:01 pm
The Orbiter Mid-Body Umbilical Unit(OMBUU) getting mated to Atlantis at LC-39A. Second image shows the Hypergolic Umbilical System(HUS) connected to Atlantis' right-hand OMS pod for the upcoming pre-launch hypergolic propellant loading.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/22/2007 10:36 pm
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/23/2007 12:01 am
Quote
C5C6 - 21/2/2007  3:47 AM

Quote
STS-500Cmdr - 20/2/2007  11:37 PM

Better yet--2 big birthday candles--Atlantis' SRBs.
:bleh: 2 aluminium and 3 hydrogen candles try to blow that  ;)


They'd be the biggest birthday candles in my 37 years on earth!

As for trying to blow them out...I think I'll watch from the safety of my home TV, thank you very much!    :)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: nathan.moeller on 02/23/2007 01:45 am
Quote
Austin - 22/2/2007  7:01 PM

Quote
C5C6 - 21/2/2007  3:47 AM

Quote
STS-500Cmdr - 20/2/2007  11:37 PM

Better yet--2 big birthday candles--Atlantis' SRBs.
:bleh: 2 aluminium and 3 hydrogen candles try to blow that  ;)


They'd be the biggest birthday candles in my 37 years on earth!

As for trying to blow them out...I think I'll watch from the safety of my home TV, thank you very much!    :)

We hope you get your candles Austin.  Just don't forget to make a wish!!  In the meantime...looks like a few KSC workers are still workin' in and around the bird.  Are there 24/7 operations until launch?  I'm still a bit confused as far as shifts work.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/23/2007 02:01 am
Quote
nathan.moeller - 22/2/2007  9:45 PM
wish!!  In the meantime...looks like a few KSC workers are still workin' in and around the bird.  Are there 24/7 operations until launch?  I'm still a bit confused as far as shifts work.

just first and some second shifts with some around the clock on a few certain ops.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/23/2007 03:02 am
Quote
Jim - 22/2/2007  7:01 PM

Quote
nathan.moeller - 22/2/2007  9:45 PM
wish!!  In the meantime...looks like a few KSC workers are still workin' in and around the bird.  Are there 24/7 operations until launch?  I'm still a bit confused as far as shifts work.

just first and some second shifts with some around the clock on a few certain ops.

Thanks a bunch, Nathan.

Jim -- do you how soon before launch they actually begin 24/7 ops?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Jim on 02/23/2007 11:34 am
during the countdown
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Austin on 02/23/2007 01:49 pm
gotcha.  Thanks
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Gerald Andrew Richli on 02/23/2007 03:36 pm
When will Atlantis payload bay doors be closed?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/23/2007 05:08 pm
Quote
Gerald Andrew Richli - 23/2/2007  5:36 PM

When will Atlantis payload bay doors be closed?
2 day prior to launch.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/23/2007 05:22 pm
NASA has posted when the different STS-117 programe will be aired on NASA TV:

March 11, Sunday
10 a.m. - STS-117 Crew Arrives at the Kennedy Space Center - KSC (All Channels)

March 12, Monday
10 a.m. - STS-117 Countdown Status Briefing - KSC (Media and Public Channels)
5 p.m. - STS-117 B-Roll Video Feed - JSC (Media and Public Channels)
5:30 - 7:30 p.m. - Live Interviews with STS-117 Lead Space Station Flight Director Kelly Beck - JSC (Media and Public Channels)

March 13, Tuesday
TBD - ISS Expedition 14 Interviews - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
10 a.m. - STS-117 Countdown Status Briefing - KSC (Media and Public Channels)
4 p.m. - STS-117 Launch Readiness News Conference - KSC (Media and Public Channels)

March 14, Wednesday
10 a.m. - STS-117 Countdown Status Briefing - KSC (Media and Public Channels)
1 p.m. - Exploration Systems Directorate Update Briefing - KSC (Media and Public Channels)
2 p.m. - Expedition 15 Preflight Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)
3 p.m. - Expedition 14 Recap Briefing - JSC (Public and Media Channels)

March 15, Thursday
1 a.m. - STS-117 Launch Coverage - KSC (All Channels)
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: jacqmans on 02/23/2007 08:39 pm
Mission: STS-117 - 21st International Space Station Flight (13A) -
S3/S4 Truss Segment Solar Arrays
Vehicle: Atlantis (OV-104)
Location: Launch Pad 39A
Launch Date: Targeted for March 15, 2007
Launch Pad: 39A
Crew: Sturckow, Archambault, Reilly, Swanson, Forrester and Olivas
Inclination/Orbit Altitude: 51.6 degrees/122 nautical miles

The STS-117 crew arrived at Kennedy Space Center Wednesday to
participate in the Terminal Countdown Demonstration Test (TCDT), a
launch dress rehearsal. The rehearsal includes emergency egress
training at the launch pad and a practice run of the final launch
countdown, during which the crew climbs aboard Atlantis and executes
the checklist for the final hours of the simulated countdown.

Earlier in the week, the STS-117 payload was installed into Atlantis'
cargo bay. In addition, technicians continued their preparations for
the hypergolic propellant load, scheduled for next week. Shuttle
interface testing and validation testing of launch pad systems are
also under way.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chandonn on 02/23/2007 10:19 pm
Less than 3 weeks now to launch...

Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: gocamels on 02/24/2007 01:35 am
Has HDNet indicated its schedule for launch coverage?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlepilot on 02/24/2007 11:05 am
Quote
DaveS - 23/2/2007  7:22 PM

NASA has posted when the different STS-117 programe will be aired on NASA TV:

...

There isn't coverage of begining of the countdown on this list. They won't provide coverage of this event on NASA TV?  :o
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/24/2007 11:15 am
Quote
shuttlepilot - 24/2/2007  1:05 PM

Quote
DaveS - 23/2/2007  7:22 PM

NASA has posted when the different STS-117 programe will be aired on NASA TV:

...

There isn't coverage of begining of the countdown on this list. They won't provide coverage of this event on NASA TV?  :o
We should know more after next week's FRR. Those times there are based on March 15 launch date being selected during the FRR.
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/25/2007 12:34 pm
Anyone know what day this week hypergolic propellant loading begins?
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: mkirk on 02/25/2007 03:50 pm
Quote
shuttlefan - 25/2/2007  7:34 AM

Anyone know what day this week hypergolic propellant loading begins?

Currently planned to start on Monday morning.

Mark Kirkman
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: shuttlefan on 02/25/2007 10:19 pm
Quote
mkirk - 25/2/2007  10:50 AM

Quote
shuttlefan - 25/2/2007  7:34 AM

Anyone know what day this week hypergolic propellant loading begins?

Currently planned to start on Monday morning.

Mark Kirkman
Thanks for the update Mark!! :cool:
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Avron on 02/25/2007 10:45 pm
Quote
gocamels - 23/2/2007  9:35 PM

Has HDNet indicated its schedule for launch coverage?

Not yet.. but expect a press release from them beforehand.. last time they started coverage at 7am for a 11:45am launch..  I would expect the same
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: DaveS on 02/26/2007 01:37 pm
And as the hypergolic prelaunch propellant loading will get underway today, here's a nice overview of it written by mkirk during STS-121: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2629&mid=39385#M39385
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Joffan on 02/26/2007 02:00 pm
Quote
DaveS - 26/2/2007  7:37 AM

And as the hypergolic prelaunch propellant loading will get underway today, here's a nice overview of it written by mkirk during STS-121:

For the search-function-challenged (or perhaps those using the same crummy browser as myself), here's a direct link to mkirk's hypergol secrets:

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2629&start=54
Title: RE: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: Chris Bergin on 02/26/2007 07:49 pm
STS 117 / OV 104 / Pad A

Hyper servicing in work
TCDT complete
IMU calibration complete
RPC trip test ECO wiring mod back out
WSB 3 rig
RV R&R
SRB ops 6 & retest complete
Title: Re: STS-117: Atlantis Rollout and Pre-Launch Updates
Post by: voyager on 02/27/2007 10:32 am
HAIL Damage at Pad A (Stand by for updates)!!
Will start new thread.........